Transmission Upgrade

[CantCMe]

Has anyone out there used the Transmission Upgrade from protegegarage.com? I looked at the price and what comes in the package and it seems reasonable...what do ya'll think?

[MakeMeGoFast]

Talk to Captain KRM P5, he can tell you all about it.

[Maxx Mazda]

I jsut bought those parts and more from the dealer. It was way cheaper for me, but we Canadians get Mazda parts REAL cheap. It's a good deal, but I would also add the revised 3/4 synchros, the upgraded 1/2 shift fork, MSP clutch fork, clutch release fork pin, and the FC throwout bearing. I just did all those for a little less than the PG kit, but liek I said, we get parts MAD cheap up here. Ken's kit is a good deal for americans.

[Maxx Mazda]

Forgot to add, you might also want the upgraded 4th gears, not included in the kit.

[CantCMe]

Forgot to add, you might also want the upgraded 4th gears, not included in the kit.
The other upgraded parts that u got (synchros, 4th gear etc.) where did you get those parts from? I guess if I'm gonna get the kit for stronger 3rd and 5th gear plus the LSD, I might as well strengthen ALL of the gears, right?

[Maxx Mazda]

The other upgraded parts that u got (synchros, 4th gear etc.) where did you get those parts from? I guess if I'm gonna get the kit for stronger 3rd and 5th gear plus the LSD, I might as well strengthen ALL of the gears, right?

All from the dealer my friend. Like I said... But for soem reason you americans pay like twice what we do for parts. Fo everything I listed above (including revised LSD) It cost me just over $700 CAD.

[CantCMe]

Did you purchase the extra parts because you wanted to make sure u wouldn't run into problems down the road or did u feel it was needed to handle any extra power? And what's the difference between the regular 1/2 shift fork and the upgraded one?

[CrazyCaker]

All from the dealer my friend. Like I said... But for soem reason you americans pay like twice what we do for parts. Fo everything I listed above (including revised LSD) It cost me just over $700 CAD.

I'd like to start ordering parts from your Mazda dealer! There is no dealer here in Ontario with prices like that, even with our local dealers that sponsor TOprotege (up to 17% off parts) the LSD alone is more then what you paid for everything.

[Maxx Mazda]

I'd like to start ordering parts from your Mazda dealer! There is no dealer here in Ontario with prices like that, even with our local dealers that sponsor TOprotege (up to 17% off parts) the LSD alone is more then what you paid for everything.

I get sweet deals on parts, but I can't say how lol!

[CantCMe]

Must be nice.

[Maxx Mazda]

Did you purchase the extra parts because you wanted to make sure u wouldn't run into problems down the road or did u feel it was needed to handle any extra power? And what's the difference between the regular 1/2 shift fork and the upgraded one?

The revised 1/2 fork is beefier. I bought all the parts because I was already in the transmission, and wanted the best I could get.

[CantCMe]

So do you feel the difference in the changes that you made? Was is all worth it to you? Do you think eventually you'll have to replace the clutch? I know I'm asking alot of questions but I'm trying to get all the input I can before I open the tranny up. Thanks for all of your help.

[CrazyCaker]

^ the clutch is a wear item, so it's eventually going to need replacing anyways.

[CantCMe]

^ the clutch is a wear item, so it's eventually going to need replacing anyways.
Yeah, might as well replace that, too. I've had cars in the past that lived it's entire life on the factory clutch. But hopefully (before the car dies) I'll have my 200 whp so the factory clutch will have to go.

[Maxx Mazda]

My factory clutch was slipping at around 200WHP. As for how it feels and al lthat, I dunno. I dont have an engine to bolt it to yet. Why are you writing in BOLD all the time?

[kicker22705]

Why are you writing in BOLD all the time?

LOL... subbin

[CantCMe]

BOLD[/B] all the time?
LOL...Habit. I do it at work all day. For some reason my co-workers think I'm mad all the time when I send them messages(shrug) ...but they react faster so that's great!!

Eventually I want to slap a turbo on the car so I don't want tranny problems afterwards. But for now I just want it to work the way it supposed to, and since I gotta go crack it open, might at well go all out. How much boost did u run to get to 200whp?

[Maxx Mazda]

LOL...Habit. I do it at work all day. For some reason my co-workers think I'm mad all the time when I send them messages(shrug) ...but they react faster so that's great!!

Eventually I want to slap a turbo on the car so I don't want tranny problems afterwards. But for now I just want it to work the way it supposed to, and since I gotta go crack it open, might at well go all out. How much boost did u run to get to 200whp?

About 10psi. But then I melted a piston cause I had stock internals...

[CantCMe]

About 10psi. But then I melted a piston cause I had stock internals...
That sucks...now I know for sure I have WAY more steps to take before I get to my goal.

[Maxx Mazda]

That sucks...now I know for sure I have WAY more steps to take before I get to my goal.

And WAY more money too lol!

[jimmybrite]

I have to go see my car dealer in hull, I never thought they would sell revised LSD..

[Maxx Mazda]

That's all you can get now. The old one is discontinued.

[jimmybrite]

oh yeah, I meant just mazdaspeed acc, I saw it this morn at my dealership, they have a poster with an rx-8 with mazdaspeed intakes, etc.., but I thought maybe since it's an old-er model that they weren't selling the lsd, at the dealer anyways.

[CantCMe]

How much is a revised LSD anyway?

[Maxx Mazda]

I paid like $520 CAD.

[CantCMe]

And before I forget, the dealership just called me about my tranny...they claim it would be at least $2300 (!!!) to fix the trans...and they haven't even opened it up! Are they nuts? I think they love wasting people's time and stealing people's money...they said the problem (pops out of 3rd) warrants them to open the transmission and "take a look inside". DUH!?!?!! Maybe they thought they could fix it through osmosis or something. I'll be picking my car up shortly...and getting it fixed somewhere else!!

[zumzumzoom03]

I think you should just sell it and buy my '03 MSP for sell. It already went through the LSD issue and has been fixed. Shes ready to go. If you know anybody interested let me know. I work in Taneytown MD

[CantCMe]

Awwww man!!! I think you gave me some info on your ride about 1 month ago...what LSD probs did you have? How many miles u got on it? I'm gonna add up everything I wanna do 2 my ES and if it's more than u want 4 your msp we might need to talk...

[zumzumzoom03]

LSD problems is it snapped. Same as everyother MSP. It has 80k miles on it.
New Parts
LSD(revised), clutch, timing belt, front and rear motor mounts, two new tires, H&R Springs less than a year, steering rack, suspension bushings. 3k-4k on maintenance that whoever buys it won't have to worry about.


Hood needs some loving,was going to do that before the LSD bill raped me.

I'm thinking 10k for it but everything is negotiable.

[CantCMe]

i'm adding my costs right now...

[zumzumzoom03]

i'm adding my costs right now...


"Drum roll"

[CantCMe]

Uh, uh, uh, um...

[CantCMe]

I'm gonna have to hold out on that one...

[zumzumzoom03]

So what's the grand total coming to? And what do you want to do to your car?

[CantCMe]

Right now I'm trying to get the tranny fixed, exhaust put on and my trunk fiberglassed...the first 2 I need done by next week. But eventually I would like a turbo kit if nothing else breaks by fall(shrug)

[bradicus18]

I jsut bought those parts and more from the dealer. It was way cheaper for me, but we Canadians get Mazda parts REAL cheap. It's a good deal, but I would also add the revised 3/4 synchros, the upgraded 1/2 shift fork, MSP clutch fork, clutch release fork pin, and the FC throwout bearing. I just did all those for a little less than the PG kit, but liek I said, we get parts MAD cheap up here. Ken's kit is a good deal for americans.

I plan on the syhchros, forks, etc. at some point. I have the PG tranny kit installed right now. I might think about the GTX 4th gear as well. We'll see because I'm starting to think about going past my original self-imposed 12 psi max boost restriction......Confound these 2002 transmissions!!!

[Maxx Mazda]

Your tranny will hold past 12psi, but be eas on it. The synchros / forks etc are jsut for driveability.

[CantCMe]

I plan on the syhchros, forks, etc. at some point. I have the PG tranny kit installed right now. I might think about the GTX 4th gear as well. We'll see because I'm starting to think about going past my original self-imposed 12 psi max boost restriction......Confound these 2002 transmissions!!!
Do you see the difference since you had the pg kit installed? I haven't significantly added any power to the motor but want to in the future and I was thinking about getting the kit.

[bradicus18]

Do you see the difference since you had the pg kit installed? I haven't significantly added any power to the motor but want to in the future and I was thinking about getting the kit.

Well, the biggest difference to me is the LSD. No more one wheel burnouts, just torque steer. LOL. As far as the gears go, I have been told that it will change your gear ratio a tad but I don't think it did.

[CantCMe]

Well, the biggest difference to me is the LSD. No more one wheel burnouts, just torque steer. LOL. As far as the gears go, I have been told that it will change your gear ratio a tad but I don't think it did.
Well, that's enough for me...as soon as I find out what I need to get my trans fixed, i'm gonna go ahead and put an order in. Thanks.

[zumzumzoom03]

Well, the biggest difference to me is the LSD. No more one wheel burnouts, just torque steer. LOL. As far as the gears go, I have been told that it will change your gear ratio a tad but I don't think it did.


One wheel burnouts kick ass. Thats the one thing I hated in my '02 Protege ES. You start to have fun and one tire breaks loose and fun is over. (drive2)

[Maxx Mazda]

The GTX 3rd is the same ratio, jsut stronger. The GTX 4th is the same ratio as well. GTX 5th is taller.

[bradicus18]

The GTX 3rd is the same ratio, jsut stronger. The GTX 4th is the same ratio as well

Yeah, 5th was the one that I was told would be different. I don't remember who said it but my revs don't seem any different.

[CantCMe]

I took my car to an Aamco transmission shop to get it fixed, and they say it would be better (and cheaper) to just swap the tranny. He claims he can order a JDM spec transmission and I was wondering if anybody knows whether they come with LSD's or not?(uhm) He also claims they're stronger and the gearing is a little different.

[Maxx Mazda]

I took my car to an Aamco transmission shop to get it fixed, and they say it would be better (and cheaper) to just swap the tranny. He claims he can order a JDM spec transmission and I was wondering if anybody knows whether they come with LSD's or not?(uhm) He also claims they're stronger and the gearing is a little different.

Hahahahahaha... Sorry dude, didn't mean to laugh.

JDM trannys are exactly the same. Even if he did get one, you wouldn't know the difference in his eyes. He'd probably just do a tranny service on your original trans and say he swapped it. Aamco steals.

[CantCMe]

Hahahahahaha... Sorry dude, didn't mean to laugh.

JDM trannys are exactly the same. Even if he did get one, you wouldn't know the difference in his eyes. He'd probably just do a tranny service on your original trans and say he swapped it. Aamco steals.
Thanks for the info...I'm gonna request the old trans...I'll have them ship it to my house or something. I've been waiting since Friday and then to be ripped off ain't good for my senses...(flame)

[Maxx Mazda]

Ya man, there really is no such thing as a "JDM" trans. They'e the exact same as what's already in your car. Possibly with more miles. I smell bullshit from them. Just be careful. Check the build date o nthe tranny too, and see if it's newer than yours. If it is, it'll have the revised synchros and 1-2 shift fork.

[bradicus18]

I see your bill adding up like this:

Super Limited JDM Transmission: $3450
JDM to USDM bracket adapter thingy: $1000
JDM shifter with super smooth bushings: $700
Disposal of crappy USDM transmission: $250
Labor and phone calls to Japan: $4500
Test drive to make sure it works: $100

Bloody thieves.

[zumzumzoom03]

I see your bill adding up like this:

Super Limited JDM Transmission: $3450
JDM to USDM bracket adapter thingy: $1000
JDM shifter with super smooth bushings: $700
Disposal of crappy USDM transmission: $250
Labor and phone calls to Japan: $4500
Test drive to make sure it works: $100

Bloody thieves.


You could just buy my car.. It already has the "JDM" transmission. HAH(drive2)

[Maxx Mazda]

Even his car already had it. We all do! :D

[CantCMe]

Ya'll are funny!!! Now I'm gonna order my own tranny and pick the old one up when they're done...where can I get a good one?

[CantCMe]

Anybody know about the 5-speeds they sell on Speed Circuit?

[Br0therly Love]

will a msp tranny work?

[Maxx Mazda]

will a msp tranny work?

Yep. It's the same, with the addition of an LSD, beefier clutch fork and pin, and the thicker axles if they're included.

[CantCMe]

Yep. It's the same, with the addition of an LSD, beefier clutch fork and pin, and the thicker axles if they're included.
I went to pick up my car...there's NO way I'm gonna get them to do the work. Before I get somebody to just junk the old tranny I would like to know what's broke inside of it. It seems like nobody wants to actually open it up to see what's broke...I wanna know just to know. I'm gonna try some other spots in my area. Aamco just wants to get paid and get rid of the old tranny. It might be something simple but I want to decide if the old one gets fixed before it's thrown out. The saga continues...

[zumzumzoom03]

I went to pick up my car...there's NO way I'm gonna get them to do the work. Before I get somebody to just junk the old tranny I would like to know what's broke inside of it. It seems like nobody wants to actually open it up to see what's broke...I wanna know just to know. I'm gonna try some other spots in my area. Aamco just wants to get paid and get rid of the old tranny. It might be something simple but I want to decide if the old one gets fixed before it's thrown out. The saga continues...


My cars still available. HAH (headbang)

[CantCMe]

So is it the shift forks and the synchronizerse that mainly keep the transmission in gear? I'm sure it's more to it than that, but I'm wondering if these are two of the main parts I need to be looking at to replace. If it's gonna only be a couple of parts or it's gonna be about $500-$700 to fix that then I don't really need a new tranny right?


My cars still available. HAH (headbang)

I still see ur out there! I might have to drive up there to take a look.

[Maxx Mazda]

Bring me you tranny. I'll rebuild it for you.

[CantCMe]

I wish I could just take my tranny out and get it rebuilt w/ an LSD but this is my daily driver. It was driving me nuts not to drive it for the 2 weeks it was at the "shops". But if I get the problem fixed with this trans I'm gonna go ahead and strengthen the other internals.

"Bring me you tranny. I'll rebuild it for you."

Wish it was that easy...thanks!

[qikslvr2006]

HAHAHA I don't know a lot but i do know amaco can burn. hahahahahaha this forum has helped me yay.

my car feels bogged down and second. and also feels like its slipping a little. poop clutch for 2002. week ars sheite. hahaha

MAXX MAZDA can I give you american dollars and u just buy the stuff in can, I'll pay shipping. and give you some money? lmao

theres a stronger 4th? where the hell u guys finding this stuff. and where can I find the kit u guys were talking about?

Thanks


ps MAZDA ROCKS, Just not my poop slow motor stock lameness. ( sorry little bored an hyper at work guys)

[CantCMe]

Well, I ordered a tranny from Speed Circuit and picked the car up this morning and it's all systems go!! Finally, I can use ALL the gears...my troubles are over for now.

[qikslvr2006]

how much was ur tran?

[CantCMe]

I think it was $800.00...well worth it.

[zoompastu]

I think it was $800.00...well worth it.
did that come with a lsd?!? how is it. I want to get rid of the f15m-r and get the G15m-r with the lsd

[CantCMe]

did that come with a lsd?!? how is it. I want to get rid of the f15m-r and get the G15m-r with the lsd
Naw...I ordered the stock 5-speed w/60,000 miles on it from Speed Circuit. The lsd would have added about $500 to the price and I didn't have it at the time. It still runs great...I'm gonna wait to grab an lsd when I swap out the clutch and add some power.

[zoompastu]

Naw...I ordered the stock 5-speed w/60,000 miles on it from Speed Circuit. The lsd would have added about $500 to the price and I didn't have it at the time. It still runs great...I'm gonna wait to grab an lsd when I swap out the clutch and add some power.
so it was 800 for a used g15mr

[CantCMe]

so it was 800 for a used g15mr
yep...the dealership wanted $22k.

[zumzumzoom03]

Im hoping you mean $2200? When I think of 22k I think of 22,000 and that would be funny as hell. HAHA

[CantCMe]

Im hoping you mean $2200? When I think of 22k I think of 22,000 and that would be funny as hell. HAHA
Oh yeah, I meant $2200..."the JDM special" maybe...NOT!!

[zoompastu]

in my area I can get them for $450 used from a junk yard. NOT trying to rub it in but did yours get new sychros or anything? just wondering thats all thats all. In my jetta that I had I got a gearbox made that had new synchros, upgraded bearings & custom gear ratios for $700 out the door. Infact everything on my mazda's has been more expensive then my jetta. But in the end My mazda's will be WAY better and well worth it.

[proteCHE]

In my jetta that I had I got a gearbox made that had new synchros, upgraded bearings & custom gear ratios for $700 out the door. Infact everything on my mazda's has been more expensive then my jetta. But in the end My mazda's will be WAY better and well worth it.

Where did you get that done for the Jetta? I am close enough to Portland to make the trip if I can get that kind of deal! Even at $1000 I would like to get that done once I get my turbo (eventually) in.