Valet Key

[The Monkey]

Hey I just picked up a "new" 2006 mazda5 and I noticed that the car didn't come with a Valet Key, normally I don't care if I have one but since the alarm is attached to the key I'm trying to find a solution for when I go river and such during the summer and I have to bring my key with me.

Is the car suppose to have a valet key or some sort of key without the alarm fob? The sales guy says no but I'm surprised the guy even knows the mazda5 had 3 rows of seats.

Thanks all

[jandree22]

No valet keys. Usually the purpose of a valet key is so the valet can't get into the trunk... which is obviously not gonna help with the 5 anyways ;)

But no, unfortunately, I don't think any waterproof key is available for the 5.


EDIT: Look here --> http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123613168
I only skimmed through, but it looks like you can get a non-programmed key cut to just open and lock the doors, then keep a programmed key hidden inside your car while you're out. The "dumb" key will be able to open the doors, but you need the "smart" key to fire the engine.

[Mazdarado]

I just ordered a basic non-flip chip key, Part# F1Y1762GX from www.onlinemazdaparts.com. Check it out as it may be what you are looking for. $19.28 plus shipping.

[TheMAN]

No valet keys. Usually the purpose of a valet key is so the valet can't get into the trunk... which is obviously not gonna help with the 5 anyways ;)

But no, unfortunately, I don't think any waterproof key is available for the 5.


EDIT: Look here --> http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123613168
I only skimmed through, but it looks like you can get a non-programmed key cut to just open and lock the doors, then keep a programmed key hidden inside your car while you're out. The "dumb" key will be able to open the doors, but you need the "smart" key to fire the engine.

vans/wagons that do have valet keys normally have the valet key unable to lock/unlock the glovebox

[Kid Red]

What about the regular keys? The icons are starting to wear off.

[nicktwist]

Oh..i had the same problem, because i surf and need to take my key with me into the water....i just went to home depot and made a copy of the flip key, it can open the doors but wont start the car...so i just leave the flip key in the car somewhere and take the copy....it was the cheapest solution...heheh

[Forkster]

On my Maxima, I had a simple key cut just for that purpose - in case I got locked out. It's in a magnetic holder in a secret location. Can't start the car - the key is chipped.

[OilGuy]

Just bought the chip-containing non-fob key part mentioned above, had it cut, and programmed it myself - all for $28.

[BLACKOUT]

i know this has nothing to do with a valet key,but i can tell you i went swimming this last summer and forgot to take my key of my pocket and i was in the pool for about an hour or so and then i realized that i had the key stiil in my pocket i got out and my key worked like nothing happened.

[nehvada]

yap, its pretty mutch like "water proof" but just dont go scuba diving with it ;)

you can also use this one here:

http://www.ziploc.com/

[Zenderfall]

I have gone diving accidentally with the key and it still worked when I got back to the car. THis was after many hours in the water. I realized I had the key with me AFTER I got out of the water.

Won't do it again though. (rlaugh)

[Heat]

Just bought the chip-containing non-fob key part mentioned above, had it cut, and programmed it myself - all for $28.
Is this just the standard key (the one that slides into the fob), or is this a different, stand-alone key?

[OilGuy]

Is this just the standard key (the one that slides into the fob), or is this a different, stand-alone key?

Full key, not just the shaft that attaches to the fob, just insert into drivers door lock and turn to unlock (like the olden days:)

[mazdaspeedster3]

i know this has nothing to do with a valet key,but i can tell you i went swimming this last summer and forgot to take my key of my pocket and i was in the pool for about an hour or so and then i realized that i had the key stiil in my pocket i got out and my key worked like nothing happened.

I have had the same thing happen. Went Kayaking with the key in my pocket and dumped several times and the key still worked. Not sure I would COUNT on them being water proof but I sure was lucky/thankful!

[reMarkable]

Just bought the chip-containing non-fob key part mentioned above, had it cut, and programmed it myself - all for $28.

I did something similar - worked like a charm! The instructions on how to program the key can be found in this forum - if you need help finding it - let me know.

-reMarkable

[Mntnbkr]

Yep - took the flip key to Ace Hardware - had them cut a copy for just a few bucks and I put a carabiner clip on it so I can attach it take it sailing, mountain biking, swimming, etc, and leave the fob key locked in the car.
As others have said, the cut key will not start the car, buy it will get you in to get the real key.

[OilGuy]

If you buy the full key with chip inside, it starts the car just fine. I personally drive the 5 infrequently (it's the wife's). I like to have a 5 key on my keychain to drive it when I need to - without the bulk of the extra fob.

[Grugster]

I did something similar - worked like a charm! The instructions on how to program the key can be found in this forum - if you need help finding it - let me know.

-reMarkable

I just bought a 2008 5 and it came with only one key. Where can I get a transponder key for a decent price and program it? I've been doing some research and it seems that I need two keys to program a new one.

Thanks in advance!

[Heat]

I just bought a 2008 5 and it came with only one key. Where can I get a transponder key for a decent price and program it? I've been doing some research and it seems that I need two keys to program a new one.

Thanks in advance!
I've been looking into this myself. You need to buy the key, the transponder (fob), and an optional key ring.

The prices at this place are as follows:

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?siteid=214264

CC43675RYC, $141.36 transponder
G2YA762GXB, $39.01 blank key for transponder, with chip
KRTT09001, $0.49 key ring

So... cost for a key with transponder (with key ring) = $180.86 with free shipping since it is over $125 (US only).

and if you want a third key without a transponder:
F1Y1762GX, $22.58 blank key with chip (does not fit into transponder)

They will cut the keys for you, just give them the VIN. If you have two keys and two transponders you can program both the chips and the transponders yourself.

I will be doing this within a day or two - I want a third transponder / key as well as a standalone key for my keychain so I don't have the fob in my pocket all of the time.

OK, since you only have one transponder / key, you are basically screwed and not in a good way. You have to go to the dealer though call three or four different ones, they may charge different rates. My local dealer quoted me a price of $80 to program the transponder if I only had one transponder, free if I had two. I don't know what they charge to program a key's chip, maybe it's included?

Then there is always the ebay route though it's more of a gamble.

[olddaddy]

I've been looking into this myself. You need to buy the key, the transponder (fob), and an optional key ring.

The prices at this place are as follows:

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?siteid=214264

CC43675RYC, $141.36 transponder
G2YA762GXB, $39.01 blank key for transponder, with chip
KRTT09001, $0.49 key ring

So... cost for a key with transponder (with key ring) = $180.86 with free shipping since it is over $125 (US only).

and if you want a third key without a transponder:
F1Y1762GX, $22.58 blank key with chip (does not fit into transponder)

They will cut the keys for you, just give them the VIN. If you have two keys and two transponders you can program both the chips and the transponders yourself.

I will be doing this within a day or two - I want a third transponder / key as well as a standalone key for my keychain so I don't have the fob in my pocket all of the time.

OK, since you only have one transponder / key, you are basically screwed and not in a good way. You have to go to the dealer though call three or four different ones, they may charge different rates. My local dealer quoted me a price of $80 to program the transponder if I only had one transponder, free if I had two. I don't know what they charge to program a key's chip, maybe it's included?

Then there is always the ebay route though it's more of a gamble.

Check out this thread before you make a decision.

http://mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123695620

[dw8]

I have had the same thing happen. Went Kayaking with the key in my pocket and dumped several times and the key still worked. Not sure I would COUNT on them being water proof but I sure was lucky/thankful!

I know the feeling. I was at the beach this past summer. Was asked to get something from the 5. Totally forgot to take the key out off my pocket. The key spent a solid half hour submerged in salt water. I took the key apart immediately. It was completely dry inside. I am still using that same key today.

[Heat]

Check out this thread before you make a decision.

http://mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123695620
Interesting, I guess there are some good deals on ebay. I've already ordered parts from the dealer though, I'll report back with how things work out.

But I think that it is important that people make a third key somehow - if you only have two keys and lose one, you have to go to the dealer, pay MSRP, and an hour of labor. From the other thread:

$350 for a switchblade key with transponder
$150 for a normal chipped key, no transponder
Prices are on the high side since labor is included since they only had one key.

[OilGuy]

$150 for a normal chipped key, no transponder


I paid $28 for a cut, chipped key from my dealer.

[Heat]

I paid $28 for a cut, chipped key from my dealer.Exactly.

$28 for a cut, chipped key from the dealer since you had two working keys. They did a "follow" on the third key which is easy to do, no labor charge.

If you only have one working key and order a spare, they have to program the key with the car which is at least one hour of labor, so $150 for the spare key.

It's the same deal with the transponder - if you have two working transponders you can program (follow) a third transponder relatively easily. If you only have one transponder you have to have it programmed which is going to run at least one hour of labor.

This is why it is important to have, at a minimum, a replacement key for $28, or better yet a replacement key and transponder for about $180 (internet price). Think of it as insurance.

[Xcapee]

Exactly.
If you only have one working key and order a spare, they have to program the key with the car which is at least one hour of labor, so $150 for the spare key.

It's the same deal with the transponder - if you have two working transponders you can program (follow) a third transponder relatively easily. If you only have one transponder you have to have it programmed which is going to run at least one hour of labor.

Hi there,
I just purchased a 2006 Mazda that came with one key only. I have ordered two chipped keys that have been cut but not programmed. If I take one to a locksmith and pay them to scan the original and programme the second as a copy, can this copy be used to then do a follow on the third key? Or is it identical to the first and therefore not two different keys?

If I take the key to my Mazda dealer, can they give me a unique code from the VIN? or do they need to reprogram the ECU?

TIA

[KBrian]

Hi there,
I just purchased a 2006 Mazda that came with one key only. I have ordered two chipped keys that have been cut but not programmed. If I take one to a locksmith and pay them to scan the original and programme the second as a copy, can this copy be used to then do a follow on the third key? Or is it identical to the first and therefore not two different keys?

If I take the key to my Mazda dealer, can they give me a unique code from the VIN? or do they need to reprogram the ECU?

TIA

Bad news, Xcapee, you cannot avoid paying someone (dealer, likely) at least an hour of labour to manually program a second key to work with your 5.

The vin # can get you a new key cut that will open a door and release the steering lock, but it will not start the 5. For that, you need the chipped keys programmed to start your specific 5.

Each time you program keys for your specific 5, you must program all the keys at the same time, and you must begin with at least two that are already programmed for your 5.

[Xcapee]

Thanks for that. What I don't understand though is that there are locksmiths that offer to copy the key for ~$150, from a single key, without needing the vehicle, just one key. Perhaps they are using a different chip that can be written as an exact copy of the first?

[KBrian]

Thanks for that. What I don't understand though is that there are locksmiths that offer to copy the key for ~$150, from a single key, without needing the vehicle, just one key. Perhaps they are using a different chip that can be written as an exact copy of the first?

Locksmiths may have access to the same programming information that the mazda dealer had, and they are doing what the service dept. would do during the hour + to reprogram a new chipped key, IMO.

[SGT_OKINAWA]

I'm so glad I'll never have to get a "key cut" for my Premacy...

Here is my car keys:

http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarNote/678279/p1.jpg

Peace!(rei)

[KBrian]

I'd hate to drop that bad boy on a concrete sidewalk:)