GB: Mazdaspeed3 Mazdaspeed Cold Air Intakes

[Captain KRM P5]

the group buy for the mazdaspeed cold air intakes is over. we are running a group buy on the Injen system here http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3117871#post3117871

[JOHNJOHN86]

how much shipping to 91776? If it's under $310 shipped, I am in!

[MadOzodi]

Grayslake, IL ZIP is 60030. That should help you get an idea of how much shipping is.

[Captain KRM P5]

i can't see shipping being more than $9 or $10 to CA

[Vermilion]

What colors are they?

[Captain KRM P5]

What colors are they?

mazdaspeed intakes come only in silver, the CP-E intakes come in other colors

[dread]

oh man, and I wanted to wait for dyno's. I may be in on this one, I will let you know, awesome deal captain. Hopefully someone will get a dyno done asap.

[Captain KRM P5]

if someone here bought the intake from me and had dynos done i would pay for the dyno runs.

[dread]

that is a good offer.

[Captain KRM P5]

that is a good offer.

just so everyone knows, there is another company out there on another forum - not CP-E mind you - making false statements and disreputable remarks about mazdaspeed parts in an effort to slander them so he can sell his own line more effectively. this company is not allowed to do business on this forum for doing things like that habitually so keep your eyes peeled and minds open when it comes to remarks made about mazdaspeed products. i have worked for mazda for several years, before doing ProtegeGarage full time, and have the true answers to any questions one might have. feel free to contact me any time with answers on mazda or mazdaspeed products. Mazda NA is aware of the issue thanks to the efforts of another dealer and is pursuing the matter with the utmost intensity.

that said, my offer to pay for the dynos still stands.

[MadOzodi]

MUST........re-SIST.........tempTA-SHUN!!!!

[invincible]

i have mazda3 2005 automatic 1.6L 105 hp ..can i put this intake in it???if its ok i need this inake

[Captain KRM P5]

no it will not fit. this is for a mazdaspeed3 which has the 2.3 turbo engine.

[Damian]

I'm in, and since this is an actual Mazdaspeed part, there will be no warranty concerns whatsoever, correct? I don't want to have to switch it out just to bring it to the dealer (not that I probably would anyway, as I have no problem telling dealers like it is).

[Captain KRM P5]

I'm in, and since this is an actual Mazdaspeed part, there will be no warranty concerns whatsoever, correct? .

bingo

[Captain KRM P5]

intakes are here and ready to ship :D

http://www.msprotege.com/members/Captain%20KRM%20P5/ms3intakes.JPG

[Captain KRM P5]

how much shipping to 91776? If it's under $310 shipped, I am in!

$16 for 3day shipping, so $305 total.

[CitizenPro]

Niiiiiiiiiiice (thumb) Up to the ceiling with intakes!

[nocoastgangster]

intakes are here and ready to ship :D

http://www.msprotege.com/members/Captain%20KRM%20P5/ms3intakes.JPG

Can you take a picture with strippers dancing around those boxes?

[Captain KRM P5]

Can you take a picture with strippers dancing around those boxes?

no but if you want to see whats in the box...

http://mazda3online.web.aplus.net/images/mazdaspeed_cold_air_intake_ms3.JPG

[JOHNJOHN86]

$16 for 3day shipping, so $305 total.

cool! Pls PM me when payment info

[Captain KRM P5]

cool! Pls PM me when payment info

pm sent now

[mdl247]

whats shipping to 96725

[Captain KRM P5]

whats shipping to 96725

$17 to Hawaii. Are you near Nutari at all? I am shipping one to him and if I can combine shipping might save you both a few bucks! just a thought, let me know.

[mdl247]

$17 to Hawaii. Are you near Nutari at all? I am shipping one to him and if I can combine shipping might save you both a few bucks! just a thought, let me know.

well sorta im on the same island but im on the other side of the island its about a hour 45min drive, so shipping is different i would say. Also i thought steve was using a short ram.

[RonTonkinMazda]

intakes are here and ready to ship :D

http://www.msprotege.com/members/Captain%20KRM%20P5/ms3intakes.JPG


lol nice tower i should of made a cool shape when i had my 85 of them

[Captain KRM P5]

well sorta im on the same island but im on the other side of the island its about a hour 45min drive, so shipping is different i would say. Also i thought steve was using a short ram.

steve was using a setup he devised with ATP parts but has since abandoned that.

[mdl247]

steve was using a setup he devised with ATP parts but has since abandoned that.

i expected to see him actually this past saturday to see what he clocks with the exedy in it cuz i wanted to race him while im bone stock and see what he would clock. well in hawaii the ms3 is good for 14.6

[mafanchai]

Whats is your shipping for 10003?

[Captain KRM P5]

i expected to see him actually this past saturday to see what he clocks with the exedy in it cuz i wanted to race him while im bone stock and see what he would clock. well in hawaii the ms3 is good for 14.6

just talked to him on the phone and i'll be sending his out tomorrow. he said he'd drop it off for you if you wanted it the same time.


Whats is your shipping for 10003?

$12

[mafanchai]

I am in on the buy, what is my next step... !PM or should i call?

[mdl247]

[quote=Captain KRM P5]just talked to him on the phone and i'll be sending his out tomorrow. he said he'd drop it off for you if you wanted it the same time.


nah i can pay the extra for the shipping. don't want something to happen in the delivery by some chance. im a skeptical person something goes wrong and steve would be the middle man so i'd be blaming him. not to good for a first time meet up. im saving the first time i meet him at the tracks and having a friendly race lol.

[Captain KRM P5]

I am in on the buy, what is my next step... !PM or should i call?

go ahead and PM me or place the order on the site and mention this thread in the comment box.

[JOHNJOHN86]

Payment sent! Thank You!

[mafanchai]

On your site, i am also interested in the AwR mount but i have found that crossover auto is selling it for 80, would u beat it or match it if i get it together? and if xede has PNP i will take that too ... !

[Captain KRM P5]

does that price include shipping charges? if it is 80 shipped i will match it. all of my prices include shipping.

[mafanchai]

Could i combine shipping .. stick the mount into the MS CAI box.! could use some savings! 80 deal =]

[Captain KRM P5]

normally i would, if i had them here. i have sold out of my stock here so that would be dropshipped from AWR in CA and not in the box with the intake from me. also, it would add 3 lbs to the intake box and shipping costs would go up slightly. however, i want to earn your business, so i will do whatever Crossover Auto does shipped less 10% if that is reasonable to you.

[mafanchai]

crossover shipping is 12.50 yicks. so the truth you have a better deal, try to close a deal before i head to bed knowing i will have mine CAI and mount soon here..

CAI + AwR 70 mount + ship
=386

if cool i will mail you detail

[Captain KRM P5]

yes thats cool, PM me the details here or place the order for both on my site with your forum name in the checkouts comment box

[mafanchai]

Payment send !

[Captain KRM P5]

pm sent back, please let me know, thanks

[mafanchai]

pm sent back, please let me know, thanks
np

[Captain KRM P5]

thanks for the order

[Captain KRM P5]

* bump * only five left

[mafanchai]

Hey capt. hopefully, my order is rocess and on the way =] . By the way is there a tracking number for me to track .

[$inCitySpeed3]

so since it is mazdaspeed products it should not void warranty????????(i Hope)

[Captain KRM P5]

so since it is mazdaspeed products it should not void warranty????????(i Hope)

this is correct


Hey capt. hopefully, my order is rocess and on the way =] . By the way is there a tracking number for me to track .

dropped it off with UPS today :) 1Z 289 A6R 03 9264 226 0

[mafanchai]

CAN't Wait To Put Them ON.... how hard is it, to put in on... will an average Joe be able to put it on.

[BSTD3]

Wonder if I should order one up? My Speed3 is still "on the water" on its way to the NJ port and then to my dealer. Hmmm decisions decisions....

[mafanchai]

Wonder if I should order one up? My Speed3 is still "on the water" on its way to the NJ port and then to my dealer. Hmmm decisions decisions....

Get it.. put in on after u break in.... !!

[Captain KRM P5]

Wonder if I should order one up? My Speed3 is still "on the water" on its way to the NJ port and then to my dealer. Hmmm decisions decisions....

like manafchai posted, would make a nice welcoming gift for your new baby :D


CAN't Wait To Put Them ON.... how hard is it, to put in on... will an average Joe be able to put it on.

instructions look crystal clear

[clos561]

a friend of mine told me that cold air intake can cause water to get into your engine and totally mess your engine up. he said becausemost cold air intakes have soemthing running to the bottom of the car....how is this cold air intake setup....i live in florida and it rains alot so its def a concern....

[Captain KRM P5]

a friend of mine told me that cold air intake can cause water to get into your engine and totally mess your engine up. he said becausemost cold air intakes have soemthing running to the bottom of the car....how is this cold air intake setup....i live in florida and it rains alot so its def a concern....

thats a generalization that is not always true. the cold air intake itself is not what normally causes hydrolock - basically your engine cannot compress or combust water, as water does not combust like gasoline etc. on many cold air intakes, the filter sits lower or further away from the engine bay where your hotter temps are going to be. if the filter ever gets submerged, yes you could run the risk of sucking up water and damaging the engine. when i say submerged, i am talking over a foot of standing water for many of these intakes. if the design of the cold air intake is such that the filter is EXTREMELY close to the ground, it may become damp or soaked during heavy rain and you will get a small amount of water into the intake.

what some intakes have - this one included - is a few safegaurds, whether it be a waterproof sock for the filter, bypass valve or filter shield. this particular intake, as you can see in the image, has a metal filter shield to prevent things from getting to the filter that would impede performance.

[Nutari]

Old 01-18-2007, 04:52 PM #4
clos561

can i run that non cold air, i heard that cold air is hard to maintain and it can mess ur car up in the rain...i live in florida it rains all the time....

i jsut want somthine the replace the stock aribox and hose for mroe performance

01-18-2007, 06:57 PM #7
clos561

someone told me theres somethign that goes down to the ground...on cool air intakes....i just dont wana fuck it up...i jsut want a new hose and filter to replace the stock stuf...

1-19-2007, 05:11 AM #9
clos561
that is why im concenred, i live in florida i rains al the time....i dont wana hydro lock a 07....

[Captain KRM P5]

Old 01-18-2007, 04:52 PM #4
clos561


01-18-2007, 06:57 PM #7
clos561


1-19-2007, 05:11 AM #9
clos561

regardless and suffice to say, with the mazdaspeed/mazda warranty being what it is on this intake and the shield that comes with it, i do not believe rain will be an issue on this intake as it would on intakes from other vehicles susceptible to those kinds of problems.

[djarkitek]

regardless and suffice to say, with the mazdaspeed/mazda warranty being what it is on this intake and the shield that comes with it, i do not believe rain will be an issue on this intake as it would on intakes from other vehicles susceptible to those kinds of problems.

the only times i have seen water damage becuase of cais is when there has been a an at least 2 foot of water storm..so if you live in new orleans..you may the only that have to worry for now.

[mafanchai]

Hey capt.
Do you know if the mazdaspeed ms3 down pipe is out or are you planning another group buy?

[dread]

Man my birthday is in a month, I wonder if I can convince my wife to get me an early present. I am still waiting for the dynos, they should be out next week, someone has already got the baseline done on another unnamed forum. For all those concerned about warranty I spoke with my service manager and he said as long as it says mazda on it they will treat it like it came from the factory with the intake on it. I have been reading peoples reviews and watching some vids of cars with this intake on and it seems to be a solid piece of equipment. Plus it makes the car sound bad ass, whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo osh. I need this, sorry for the babbling but I have dreams about this intake and I am fighting the urge and trying to be responsible. I hope this group buy doesn't end before I figure out what I knew all along, that I can't live without this intake.

[ZoomRedZoomGT]

Hmmm, should have looked for a post first. Oh well, hey.. just ordered one of these.. its the one going to Jacksonville, Fl. Any idea when Im gonna get that puppy??

[ZoomRedZoomGT]

By the way...once this is on should the computer be reset? If so how long does the battery have to be disconnected for it to reset?

[dread]

you should reset the computer and 10 minutes should do it, just turn the headlights on to get all the power out of the car.

[Speedy3]

oh man, and I wanted to wait for dyno's. I may be in on this one, I will let you know, awesome deal captain. Hopefully someone will get a dyno done asap.

Dyno coming tomorrow. Actually, I can tell you the % gain in 3rd and 4th gear. 1st and 2nd will have to wait for the rain to stop here; too much slippage and 5th and 6th are too fast for me to test. If you all are wondering, I use Auterra Dyno-Scan SW for the Dyno test.

I ran 6 runs today before installing the CAI. Mean values are:

3rd Gear: 224 HP @ 5300 RPM, 238.8 ft lbs @ 4233 RPM
4th Gear: 253 HP @ 5500 RPM, 255.8 ft lbs @ 4333 RPM

These numbers represent the power and torque at the wheels. The value to focus on will be the % difference from the stock numbers to the numbers I get tomorrow with the CAI installed.

Numbers with MS CAI to come tomorrow, Saturday, 3-2-2007.

I installed my MazdaSpeed CAI today and man, it makes a very noticable difference. The car pulls harder in lower RPMs now and third gear now loses traction on wet pavement whereas it didn't before. I didn't have time today to test the poer/torque with the CAI caus I already got crap from the wife for taking 2 hours to get the baseline numbers above and 2 hours to install the CAI. I had to drive out towards Mt. Rainier to do the test runs. No traffic out there.

I will also try and post intake manifold temperature differences from stock to upgraded with MS CAI.

[Speedy3]

Ok, got it! I ran 3 runs in 3rd gear WITH the MazdaSpeed CAI. Here are my results (Mean values of 3 runs each):

Stock
3rd Gear: 224.0 HP @ 5300 RPM, 238.8 ft-lbs @ 4233 RPM

With MS CAI
3rd Gear: 247.5 HP @ 5200 RPM, 273.0 ft-lbs @ 4267 RPM

The gains

HP: 10%
Torque: 14.3%

Based on Mazda's baseline figures of 263 HP @ 280 ft-lbs Torque, the new numbers should reflect my measured gains and would be 290.5 HP @ 320.1 ft-lbs of Torque!!! That is a gain of 27.5 HP and 20.1 ft-lbs of Torque!

I will do more tests when it dries out here and try doing it in all gears. BTW, I only took measurements without wheel spin. In some cases, I had to feather the throttle to prevent it.

[abun24]

(lol)
Dyno coming tomorrow. Actually, I can tell you the % gain in 3rd and 4th gear. 1st and 2nd will have to wait for the rain to stop here; too much slippage and 5th and 6th are too fast for me to test. If you all are wondering, I use Auterra Dyno-Scan SW for the Dyno test.

I ran 6 runs today before installing the CAI. Mean values are:

3rd Gear: 224 HP @ 5300 RPM, 238.8 ft lbs @ 4233 RPM
4th Gear: 253 HP @ 5500 RPM, 255.8 ft lbs @ 4333 RPM

These numbers represent the power and torque at the wheels. The value to focus on will be the % difference from the stock numbers to the numbers I get tomorrow with the CAI installed.

Numbers with MS CAI to come tomorrow, Saturday, 3-2-2007.

I installed my MazdaSpeed CAI today and man, it makes a very noticable difference. The car pulls harder in lower RPMs now and third gear now loses traction on wet pavement whereas it didn't before. I didn't have time today to test the poer/torque with the CAI caus I already got crap from the wife for taking 2 hours to get the baseline numbers above and 2 hours to install the CAI. I had to drive out towards Mt. Rainier to do the test runs. No traffic out there.

I will also try and post intake manifold temperature differences from stock to upgraded with MS CAI.

[BSTD3]

Ok, got it! I ran 3 runs in 3rd gear WITH the MazdaSpeed CAI. Here are my results (Mean values of 3 runs each):

Stock
3rd Gear: 224.0 HP @ 5300 RPM, 238.8 ft-lbs @ 4233 RPM

With MS CAI
3rd Gear: 247.5 HP @ 5200 RPM, 273.0 ft-lbs @ 4267 RPM

The gains

HP: 10%
Torque: 14.3%

Based on Mazda's baseline figures of 263 HP @ 280 ft-lbs Torque, the new numbers should reflect my measured gains and would be 290.5 HP @ 320.1 ft-lbs of Torque!!! That is a gain of 27.5 HP and 20.1 ft-lbs of Torque!

I will do more tests when it dries out here and try doing it in all gears. BTW, I only took measurements without wheel spin. In some cases, I had to feather the throttle to prevent it.

Speedy3:

Those numbers look real promising. Dumb ? but did you have to remove the front bumper to install the MS CAI? I'm not shy to take things apart as I did the same thing on my RX-8 to install some lower grills.

TIA.

[dread]

You do not have to remove the bumper but it makes it easier. Those are really good gains, I wonder what forth looks like. How much variation to you see between runs.

[Speedy3]

You do not have to remove the bumper but it makes it easier. Those are really good gains, I wonder what forth looks like. How much variation to you see between runs.

The numbers varried from the mean by +/-:

Stock:
HP: 2.3%
Torque: 5.6%

With MS CAI:
HP: 7.5%
Torque: 11.3%

I believe, the higher variation in the MS CAI test is due to too much tire slippage. I will re-do the runs today if I can.

[BSTD3]

Thanks guys!

I might jump on this group buy even though my speed3 is still 2 weeks out :)

[Speedy3]

Speedy3:

Those numbers look real promising. Dumb ? but did you have to remove the front bumper to install the MS CAI? I'm not shy to take things apart as I did the same thing on my RX-8 to install some lower grills.

TIA.

I second Dread's comments. You don't need to remove the bumper. The hardest part is getting up into the area behind the fog lamp and removing the stock air director.

[Captain KRM P5]

Ok, got it! I ran 3 runs in 3rd gear WITH the MazdaSpeed CAI. Here are my results (Mean values of 3 runs each):

Stock
3rd Gear: 224.0 HP @ 5300 RPM, 238.8 ft-lbs @ 4233 RPM

With MS CAI
3rd Gear: 247.5 HP @ 5200 RPM, 273.0 ft-lbs @ 4267 RPM

The gains

HP: 10%
Torque: 14.3%

Based on Mazda's baseline figures of 263 HP @ 280 ft-lbs Torque, the new numbers should reflect my measured gains and would be 290.5 HP @ 320.1 ft-lbs of Torque!!! That is a gain of 27.5 HP and 20.1 ft-lbs of Torque!

I will do more tests when it dries out here and try doing it in all gears. BTW, I only took measurements without wheel spin. In some cases, I had to feather the throttle to prevent it.

good to see you got pleasing results! nice news for all involved.

[jomoyo069]

thats crazy

[Speedy3]

The numbers varried from the mean by +/-:

Stock:
HP: 2.3%
Torque: 5.6%

With MS CAI:
HP: 7.5%
Torque: 11.3%

I believe, the higher variation in the MS CAI test is due to too much tire slippage. I will re-do the runs today if I can.

New results on dry pavement. I couldn't do 4th gear though; it just takes too much time and my wife was already ragging at me for going to do the 3rd gear test. I ran 3 solid runs in 3rd gear today with the MS CAI on dry pavement. All the numbers below are mean values of 3 runs each.

HP/Torque Dyno:
Stock (3-2-2007, wet pavement, no slippage)
3rd Gear: 224.0 HP @ 5300 RPM, 238.8 ft-lbs @ 4233 RPM
Variation HP: +/- 2.3%, Torque: +/- 5.6%

With MS CAI (3-2-2007, wet pavement, some slippage)
3rd Gear: 247.5 HP @ 5200 RPM, 273.0 ft-lbs @ 4267 RPM
Variation HP: +/- 7.5%, Torque: +/- 11.3%

With MS CAI (3-3-2007, dry pavement, no slippage)
3rd Gear: 253.1 HP @ 5267 RPM, 264.5 ft-lbs @ 4300 RPM
Variation HP: +/- 2.2%, Torque: +/- 1.1%

The gains:

3-2-2007
HP: 10% (Equivalent to 290.5 HP compared to Mazda's advertised stock 263 HP)
Torque: 14.3% (Equivalent to 320.1 ft-lbs compared to Mazda's advertised stock 280 ft-lbs)

3-3-2007
HP: 13% (Equivalent to 297.2 HP compared to Mazda's advertised stock 263 HP)
Torque: 10.7% (Equivalent to 310.1 ft-lbs compared to Mazda's advertised stock 280 ft-lbs)

[peanutsparts]

Great results, and a great deal!

[BSTD3]

Captian:

How many CAI's do you have left? I want in! (drive)

[dread]

Those results seem too good to be true, how accurate are those things? I want that intake bad.

[Captain KRM P5]

all sold out :)

[Speedy3]

Those results seem too good to be true, how accurate are those things? I want that intake bad.

When you look at the differences between stock and MS CAI, I believe it is very accurate. The actual HP/Torque numbers may not highly accurate, but they are very consistent. The last set of numbers I posted have very little variance between runs.

[BSTD3]

all sold out :)

CRAPOLA!

[Captain KRM P5]

CRAPOLA!

i'll know monday when to expect more in - how many more people are interested? post here if you are.

[turbofever]

I am. Infact, I PM'd you early yesterday. Looks like I just missed out.

[blackspeed3]

im intrested

[Captain KRM P5]

i'll see tomorrow how many i can get my mitts on

[BSTD3]

i'll see tomorrow how many i can get my mitts on

Excellent. Thanks Capitan

[Brannon]

I am definitely interested. How much shipped to 92106?

[Speedy3]

New results on dry pavement. I couldn't do 4th gear though; it just takes too much time and my wife was already ragging at me for going to do the 3rd gear test. I ran 3 solid runs in 3rd gear today with the MS CAI on dry pavement. All the numbers below are mean values of 3 runs each.

HP/Torque Dyno:
Stock (3-2-2007, wet pavement, no slippage)
3rd Gear: 224.0 HP @ 5300 RPM, 238.8 ft-lbs @ 4233 RPM
Variation HP: +/- 2.3%, Torque: +/- 5.6%

With MS CAI (3-2-2007, wet pavement, some slippage)
3rd Gear: 247.5 HP @ 5200 RPM, 273.0 ft-lbs @ 4267 RPM
Variation HP: +/- 7.5%, Torque: +/- 11.3%

With MS CAI (3-3-2007, dry pavement, no slippage)
3rd Gear: 253.1 HP @ 5267 RPM, 264.5 ft-lbs @ 4300 RPM
Variation HP: +/- 2.2%, Torque: +/- 1.1%

The gains:

3-2-2007
HP: 10% (Equivalent to 290.5 HP compared to Mazda's advertised stock 263 HP)
Torque: 14.3% (Equivalent to 320.1 ft-lbs compared to Mazda's advertised stock 280 ft-lbs)

3-3-2007
HP: 13% (Equivalent to 297.2 HP compared to Mazda's advertised stock 263 HP)
Torque: 10.7% (Equivalent to 310.1 ft-lbs compared to Mazda's advertised stock 280 ft-lbs)

After a debate with CP-E, I realized that I may have introduced some error here. I ran the stock measurements with the original air filter. My car has 7K miles, so that air filter may have been restricting some air flow.

Here's what I plan to do. I will buy a new stock air filter, re-install the original airbox with the new airfilter and re-run the SW dyno in 3rd gear. This is going to take me a while because my wife is in college and approaching finals (I get to watch the kid on the weekends). Stay tuned though; I tend to do things anyways despite losing sleep!

[camrycev6]

After a debate with CP-E, I realized that I may have introduced some error here. I ran the stock measurements with the original air filter. My car has 7K miles, so that air filter may have been restricting some air flow.

Here's what I plan to do. I will buy a new stock air filter, re-install the original airbox with the new airfilter and re-run the SW dyno in 3rd gear. This is going to take me a while because my wife is in college and approaching finals (I get to watch the kid on the weekends). Stay tuned though; I tend to do things anyways despite losing sleep!

This data is extremely interesting. A couple of car mags, and Mazda themselves reports these gains from the MS CAI and the MS Cat-back. You are reporting basically the same numbers from the just the CAI alone. This leaves three possibilities:

1) The MS Cat-back offers a negligible perfomance increase and is for cosmetic purposes only.

2) Mazda / other mag sources were conservative on their numbers to be on the "safe" side. (Remember the Rx-8 HP SNAFU!)

3) Mazda never actually tested the CAI with the Cat back. (But rather just the CAI.)

In any case, I guess I will know shortly, but I know I will be "upset" that I am paying apprx $1100 for both the CAI / Cat-back, if I could just have the CAI for $400 with the same performance.

[Speedy3]

I took the car in and had it dyno'd with the MAZDASPEED CAI Installed. The first 2 runs were with the hood open. The last 2 runs were with the hood closed. It was done in 3rd gear each time starting at 1500 RPMs (measurement must have started around 2k RPMs) and letting off throttle at about 6K RPMS. There were 2 large fans positioned 6 feet in front of the car and I estimate the were pushing the air at about 35-45 MPH.

Runs were 4-10 minutes apart and ambient temperature was around 63 degrees F.

I'm going to re-install the stock airbox and filter and go back for 4 more runs within the next few days. To give the shop credit, the test was done in Tacoma Washington at Turbo Technology Inc.

[Speedy3]

Also, the SW dyno numbers are very close to the wheel dyno numbers:

[dread]

it doesn't make sense that torque and horse power are almost equal on a ms3 I wonder if that is due too the smoothing on the graph. Nice work with all the dyno numbers by the way, this is very much appreciated. Its people like you that make buying easier for the rest of us. Its good to know you device is pretty accurate

[turbofever]

Awesome results.

zoom zoom!! (nana)

[Speedy3]

it doesn't make sense that torque and horse power are almost equal on a ms3 I wonder if that is due too the smoothing on the graph. Nice work with all the dyno numbers by the way, this is very much appreciated. Its people like you that make buying easier for the rest of us. Its good to know you device is pretty accurate

Yea, I'm just concerned why Rotus isn't getting the same results. Like I wrote before, I'm going to actually put the stock airbox back on, buy a new stock airfilter and re-do the SW and HW Dyno tests during the same weather conditions and same gas in the stock configuration so we can get a solid look at the tru gains of the MS3 CAI. When they were doing the Dynojet Research wheel dyno runs, I paid attention to the exhaust and there was less black smoke, but there still was black smoke, indicating it is still running somewhat rich.

[Speedy3]

it doesn't make sense that torque and horse power are almost equal on a ms3 I wonder if that is due too the smoothing on the graph. Nice work with all the dyno numbers by the way, this is very much appreciated. Its people like you that make buying easier for the rest of us. Its good to know you device is pretty accurate

I had him switch between smoothing settings and the graphs on all settings (1-5) looked pretty much the same.

[Speedy3]

it doesn't make sense that torque and horse power are almost equal on a ms3 I wonder if that is due too the smoothing on the graph.

Sorry for all the replies! One last note, the closeness of the HP and Torque may be due to the gear ratio of 3rd gear. I would presume that torque will be much higer in 1st and 2nd.

[Speedy3]

Lets start a thread to compare results from stock to addition of any CAI. Graphs or tables only with environmental parameters and initial conditions.

[Vermilion]

I'm interested.

[Hyun]

Im interested in CAI. I will check back here for update from you.

[dread]

any idea how the cai is affecting your air fuel ratios

[stretch]

any idea how the cai is affecting your air fuel ratios
Yeah, the air/fuel ratio is going to be the interesting thing here.

Also, Speedy, if you switch directly back to your stock airbox for the dyno, your fuel trims wouldn't have had time to adjust again yet. A user on another forum verified that the Mazdaspeed intake does indeed change them- in his case, by 9 points:


Long term fuel trim with stock airbox: -4 (average)
Long term fuel trim with MS CAI: +5 (average)

The ECU seems to be a bit confused by the MS CAI. I'm waiting to see if it will settle down in a couple of days.

This all goes back to what I was pointing out earlier- the Mazdaspeed intake gets its gains by altering the air/fuel ratio. I never disputed how much horsepower it made, just how it made it!

[Speedy3]

Yeah, the air/fuel ratio is going to be the interesting thing here.

Also, Speedy, if you switch directly back to your stock airbox for the dyno, your fuel trims wouldn't have had time to adjust again yet. A user on another forum verified that the Mazdaspeed intake does indeed change them- in his case, by 9 points:

This all goes back to what I was pointing out earlier- the Mazdaspeed intake gets its gains by altering the air/fuel ratio. I never disputed how much horsepower it made, just how it made it!

I just replaced the CAI with the stock airbox. I will record fuel trim and other parameters. I will reset the ECU.

[Captain KRM P5]

i have access to a bunch more intakes, so anyone who wants one please post so here or PM me

[camrycev6]

NO CAI!!

I checked with Mazda parts twice before ordering and yet when I went today, these guys still managed to order the wrong (Mazda 3, not Mazdaspeed 3) parts. 10 dollars in gas, $4 in tolls, and 4 hours wasted. I am going back Thursday....hopefully they will get it right. The Dyno is still scheduled for Saturday. I should post simliar numbers as others, because I was told the CAT back exhaust does not provide a perfomance boost. It needs to be turbo back and Mazda doesn't make one of those for the MS3

[turbofever]

i have access to a bunch more intakes, so anyone who wants one please post so here or PM me PM'd ya.

[Captain KRM P5]

five will be here on friday, i will do payments then

[Speedy3]

MAZDASPEED CAI vs Stock Dynojet Dyno results here:

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123662934

"http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123662934"

[Brannon]

five will be here on friday, i will do payments then

PM sent.

[ZoomRedZoomGT]

So, can I install this thing myself without a hassle from Mazda?

[mdl247]

i'll take one just give me the info and the shipping would go to 96725

[redheaddstpch1d]

Cant wait to get mine :D

[camrycev6]

I have mine now. They took longer than they said to install it. 1.5 hours versus the quoted 0.8 hours. Cost me $420 installed. Dyno is tomorrow!

[peanutsparts]

I have mine now. They took longer than they said to install it. 1.5 hours versus the quoted 0.8 hours. Cost me $420 installed. Dyno is tomorrow!

U could of goten a exhast for that amount!

[camrycev6]

U could of goten a exhast for that amount!

The exhaust was selling for approx. $450 at two different dealers. That is the UNINSTALLED price. So no, I could not have got an exhaust for that much.

Also, and more importantly, the exhaust only gives you about 4-7 more HP depending on what you read. That is a lot of money for such little gain.

Until Mazda makes a down pipe, the pipe from the turbo to the Cat is too small to make a Cat-back advantageous.

[peanutsparts]

The exhaust was selling for approx. $450 at two different dealers. That is the UNINSTALLED price. So no, I could not have got an exhaust for that much.

Also, and more importantly, the exhaust only gives you about 4-7 more HP depending on what you read. That is a lot of money for such little gain.

Until Mazda makes a down pipe, the pipe from the turbo to the Cat is too small to make a Cat-back advantageous.

a exhaust and intake are easy to install. U paid that extar 120 bucks from Mazda just for the ECU reflash, and for them to do a 30-45 install for you.

when you cen just pay 40 bucks more and get th CP-E CAI, with proven dynos for more power.

it matters if u care for the warranty or not.

[dread]

a exhaust and intake are easy to install. U paid that extar 120 bucks from Mazda just for the ECU reflash, and for them to do a 30-45 install for you.

when you cen just pay 40 bucks more and get th CP-E CAI, with proven dynos for more power.

it matters if u care for the warranty or not.

The dyno posted by speedy 3 a member of this forum showed more gain for the ms cai than the ones posted for cpe.

[Captain KRM P5]

lets not make this into a flamewar, k?

[C'ville]

Could a dealer really prove that a CP-E CAI caused a problem as opposed to a MS CaI?
They are sort of the same thing, I guess I'm trying to say if mazda sells a CAI for this car I think it would be hard for them to prove that another brand caused a problem.
Everyone is going to buy what they think is best for themselves.
Me I like the quality and R&D of the CP-E CAI and that’s what I’m going with.

[peanutsparts]

Could a dealer really prove that a CP-E CAI caused a problem as opposed to a MS CaI?
They are sort of the same thing, I guess I'm trying to say if mazda sells a CAI for this car I think it would be hard for them to prove that another brand caused a problem.
Everyone is going to buy what they think is best for themselves.
Me I like the quality and R&D of the CP-E CAI and that’s what I’m going with.

word.......

[Speedy3]

any idea how the cai is affecting your air fuel ratios

Hey Dread, It turns out to be fairlly difficult to determine the A/F ratio from the SW, but I was able to get some useful data, then derive the commanded A/F ratio.

First off, the numbers indicate that the First O2 sensor is measuring the A/F to be about 8% leaner than stock with the MS CAI. The good news is that the ECU is commanding a decrease in the A/F ratio (Richer) by about 6% to compensate. The Commanded A/F ratio under peak load in stock config was about 12.2. The Commanded A/F ratio under full load with the MS CAI was about 11.5. This is the commanded A/F ratio based on compensation learned from feedback while previously driving, so it seems, it is compensating for the MS CAI. I also noticed during the dyno tests that almost the same density of black smoke was coming out of the exhaust in stock vs with MS CAI. So, despite the difference in diameter of the MAF housing (as posted by flyrevs and cp-e) and the increase in air-flow from stock to MS CAI, it seems the MS 3 ECU is adjusting the A/F ratio to keep the car from running too lean. Initial results look like it is about 2% leaner.

[camrycev6]

a exhaust and intake are easy to install. U paid that extar 120 bucks from Mazda just for the ECU reflash, and for them to do a 30-45 install for you.

when you cen just pay 40 bucks more and get th CP-E CAI, with proven dynos for more power.

it matters if u care for the warranty or not.


I do care about the warranty. My car is brand new, so it seems silly to me to possibly void a waranty on a $23,000 car with 2.8 years / 35,400 miles to go, just to save myself $120.

[peanutsparts]

I do care about the warranty. My car is brand new, so it seems silly to me to possibly void a waranty on a $23,000 car with 2.8 years / 35,400 miles to go, just to save myself $120.


So U won't be upgrading ur DP or exhaust then, right?

[camrycev6]

I may add the MS Cat-back later on since that is all covered. But as far as aftermarket performance stuff...(Like the new intercooler or the turbo-back exhaust...)... no. Not this soon.

[nondual]

So U won't be upgrading ur DP or exhaust then, right?
I'll upgrade a full turboback AFTER the warranty.

I MAY upgrade the TMIC if it's an easy thing to put on/take off. I'd LOVE to install a XEDE if it becomes plug and play, but if it doesn't I'll add it, engine mounts, and suspension tuning after warranty.

[camrycev6]

I have my Dyno results:

I will be getting the file via email tomorrow, so I can post more data then. (In another thread....) For now, here are the raw numbers:

Max Power = 257.4
Max Torque = 271.9

@ 4.65 RPMS, A/F = 11.3

Pretty good increase over stock.

[Captain KRM P5]

I'll upgrade a full turboback AFTER the warranty.

I MAY upgrade the TMIC if it's an easy thing to put on/take off. I'd LOVE to install a XEDE if it becomes plug and play, but if it doesn't I'll add it, engine mounts, and suspension tuning after warranty.

TMIC is a fifteen/twenty minute swap at the most, very easy

[Speedy3]

I have my Dyno results:

I will be getting the file via email tomorrow, so I can post more data then. (In another thread....) For now, here are the raw numbers:

Max Power = 257.4
Max Torque = 271.9

@ 4.65 RPMS, A/F = 11.3

Pretty good increase over stock.

Nice. I calculated my full load A/F ratio change from 12.2 stock to 11.5 with the Mazdaspeed CAI. Your measured A/F lines up pretty close to my calculated (based on OBDII parameters). Does anyone know if this is a safe level? It is still rich considering that anything below the stoichiometric value of 14.7 is considered rich, but how does 11.3-11.5 compare to other cars? Is it still a safe value? How lean can it go?

[camrycev6]

Thanks. As far as the A/F mix goes, I am not an expert on the subject. I know my old supercharged G35 coupe was running around 11.5 on the A/F mix and that was done via a reprogram of the ECU. I will have to defer to the experts.

Considering we are running in the 11s, we are still running pretty darn rich, which means we could lean the car out even a little more and still be safe.

If the stock version of the car was running in the 12s, I guess we are running even richer than before. I read reports of people getting better gas mileage with the CAI, but wouldn't it be a little less if we are running more fuel? Also, simple physics says you can't get something for nothing, so if we are putting out more power / torque, that energy has to come from somewhere....and I don't carry any other high energy chemicals other than gas in my car....

[CTGrey02]

Among Mustangs, the general concensus for a blower car is 11.5-12.0 across the board for A/F. Anything below that and your just washing your pistons. 14.7 you're gonna be pre-detonating. For the record, my GT generally runs around the high 12's, low 13's for A/F readings on the dyno. I need larger injectors. All the dyno's I've seen of the MS3 so far go off the chart rich which is just as bad. Does your just peak in the 11's or is it in the 11's all the way across now?

[camrycev6]

I have to wait until I get the files or get home to look at my print out again to be sure, but I am sure it was NOT 11s all the way across. As I recall it started off much leaner, was 11.3 in the middle, and got richer all the way to the end. (In the 8s...)

[Speedy3]

Nice. I calculated my full load A/F ratio change from 12.2 stock to 11.5 with the Mazdaspeed CAI. Your measured A/F lines up pretty close to my calculated (based on OBDII parameters). Does anyone know if this is a safe level? It is still rich considering that anything below the stoichiometric value of 14.7 is considered rich, but how does 11.3-11.5 compare to other cars? Is it still a safe value? How lean can it go?

I phrased this incorrectly.

Actually, the car looks to be running about 2% leaner despite the richer commanded A/F ratio with the MS CAI. The ECU is commanding 11.5 under full load as oposed to 12.2 in the stock configuration. The actual is A/F ratio is not easily deterministic from OBDII data.

Here is my original post on a different thread:

First off, the numbers indicate that the First O2 sensor is measuring the A/F to be about 8% leaner than stock with the MS CAI. The good news is that the ECU is commanding a decrease in the A/F ratio (Richer) by about 6% to compensate. The Commanded A/F ratio under peak load in stock config was about 12.2. The Commanded A/F ratio under full load with the MS CAI was about 11.5. This is the commanded A/F ratio based on compensation learned from feedback while previously driving, so it seems, it is compensating for the MS CAI. I also noticed during the dyno tests that almost the same density of black smoke was coming out of the exhaust in stock vs with MS CAI. So, despite the difference in diameter of the MAF housing (as posted by flyrevs and cp-e) and the increase in air-flow from stock to MS CAI, it seems the MS 3 ECU is adjusting the A/F ratio to keep the car from running too lean. Initial results look like it is about 2% leaner.

[IDRVSLO]

Hey Captain are you still offering the 289+shipping price? Also are they in stock? I am looking to pick one up as soon as possible. Please let me know either here or at my email. scott.glasser@gmail.com Thanks

Scott

[camrycev6]

Speedy3, that makes more sense to me. I would agree with your conclusions as well. It seems the ECU is adjusting "automatically" to the lower temperature and increased airflow provided by the CAI.

[Speedy3]

Speedy3, that makes more sense to me. I would agree with your conclusions as well. It seems the ECU is adjusting "automatically" to the lower temperature and increased airflow provided by the CAI.

Here's some OBDII data on the "Commanded A/F Ratio" with the MS CAI. From my calculations, the car is actually running 2% leaner than this.

[CoachZed]

Does anybody know if the rich fuel mixture is connected to the engine's DISI, or the high compression? What a/f ratios are comparable engines like the VAG 2.0t running?

[peanutsparts]

Does anybody know if the rich fuel mixture is connected to the engine's DISI, or the high compression? What a/f ratios are comparable engines like the VAG 2.0t running?

It probelmly the DISI injection system design.

[Captain KRM P5]

It probelmly the DISI injection system design.

its not inherently the result of direct injection, its the tuning and mapping mazda coded to the ECU that controls injector flow and timing, both of which are critical factors to your engine's air/fuel ratio. it also doesn't help up top that the throttle plate closes up while fuel flow remains constant, inducing a rich condition.

[0-c4t]

i just bought mine and installed myself. dealer wanted 225 even with my sisters employee discount. i installed it in about 1.5 hours. i was being very carefull with my new baby :) i havent dyno'd it yet but ive seen others and the gains seem to be amazing. i definately noticed the power increase, especially in lower gears. sounds unbeleivable too!

[camrycev6]

Pissed..... very pissed... dyno company promised he sent my charts. To two different addresses...I have nothings still. Not happy.

[Funkycoldg]

I am amazed and have a greater love for my car. I got it installed yesterday buy my mazda dealer since I dont have a great place to do it myslef and have been very busy with work lately. I love listening to the Engine now with the CAI and blow off valve sounds!! Soo NICE!! You guys will get a kick out of this story... Well first I had a huge problem asking my dealer to do it since he still thought it voided your warranty but I got that all straightened out. Oh and before that I called 3 different dealers to get an estimate of how much they wanted and the answers I got were $135, $220-$320 depending what was all involved and $70. Well my dad took it to the dealer I bought the car from for $70 and it took "their best mechanic" 2 and a half hours to install it. HAHA!! I had to laugh because of everyone saying it was taking an hour to an hour and half to do it. Well its all good and they did charge me the extra time. I am just happy it is installed! Thanks to Jason from onlinemazdaparts.com for all of his help!

[camrycev6]

They took 2.5 hours to install mine at Mazda. BTW...here are my dyno results....

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123662934&page=3

[mdl247]

lol this intake is good for 1 tenth of a second off on your 1/4 mile, well from my experiences atleast.

[camrycev6]

Perhaps, but it is all the street starts, and 50-70 mph that makes that little edge very nice.

[elderlycoffee]

anyway you can hold one for about 2 weeks till i get my next paycheck?

[acousticartist]

The exhaust was selling for approx. $450 at two different dealers. That is the UNINSTALLED price. So no, I could not have got an exhaust for that much.

Also, and more importantly, the exhaust only gives you about 4-7 more HP depending on what you read. That is a lot of money for such little gain.

Until Mazda makes a down pipe, the pipe from the turbo to the Cat is too small to make a Cat-back advantageous.

A Mazda dealer quoted you $450 for a Mazdaspeed CBE for a Mazdaspeed 3? Are you sure they had the right part number and that what they quoted wasn't for a regular 3? If so, then the group buy that is happening on another forum is not such a good deal at $560!!!

[mdl247]

intake is really nice tho you can actually tell the difference between stock intake and this intake

[BlackJack]

Hey Captain, how much for shipping to 08807 and/or 14623?

[Captain KRM P5]

Hey Captain, how much for shipping to 08807 and/or 14623?

figure $306 shipped

[BlackJack]

For which zip?

[Captain KRM P5]

For which zip?

i can do that price to either

[CosmoMS3]

i can do that price to either

If I live in Chicago, can I come and pick up the CAI myself instead of having it shipped? How much will I have to pay (tax/no tax)?

I am only off on Tuesday and Wednesday so I would like to buy one right away.

Thank you.

[BlackJack]

i can do that price to either

Wow, you're my hero! Unfortunately, I have to wait for my next two paychecks :(
I'll hit you up when I obtain the money. (thumb)

[camrycev6]

A Mazda dealer quoted you $450 for a Mazdaspeed CBE for a Mazdaspeed 3? Are you sure they had the right part number and that what they quoted wasn't for a regular 3? If so, then the group buy that is happening on another forum is not such a good deal at $560!!!

Yes...I am sure...that did not include installation though! I can still get it at that price if I want it.

[RonTonkinMazda]

Yes...I am sure...that did not include installation though! I can still get it at that price if I want it.


can you buy 10 for me at that price its cheaper to buy them from you and pay shipping then order from mazda thats quite a bit below dealer cost.

[camrycev6]

can you buy 10 for me at that price its cheaper to buy them from you and pay shipping then order from mazda thats quite a bit below dealer cost.

Remember...if you read my earlier thread on this, I was quoted a price with 10% off. (Because of a mistake with the MS CAI I ordered.) Now, just to make sure I am not being clandestinely accused of being full of it..... I just called Heritage Mazda in Bel Air, Maryland and asked them to confirm.

I spoke with Eric, at 1-866-627-8412 (In Mazda parts obviously), Mazdaspeed 3 CBE - list is $729, they are offering discounted accessories currently and he just offered it to me (again) for $500. No 10% off this time. If you do the math...bam...about $450 for the original one I was going to purchase.

Need more proof?

[RonTonkinMazda]

Remember...if you read my earlier thread on this, I was quoted a price with 10% off. (Because of a mistake with the MS CAI I ordered.) Now, just to make sure I am not being clandestinely accused of being full of it..... I just called Heritage Mazda in Bel Air, Maryland and asked them to confirm.

I spoke with Eric, at 1-866-627-8412 (In Mazda parts obviously), Mazdaspeed 3 CBE - list is $729, they are offering discounted accessories currently and he just offered it to me (again) for $500. No 10% off this time. If you do the math...bam...about $450 for the original one I was going to purchase.

Need more proof?


no i don't need any proof i just don't see a dealer selling it to you below cost but if they will sell it to you for $450 i say buy it and even if you don't want it you can resale it and make some money.

[camrycev6]

True...I could buy some and resell them, but I really don't have the time for that. I would get one for myself, but the very minor increase in performance (5-7 HP estimated) isn't worth it to me.

[AlExTEK]

Hi Captain,

How much will the shipping be to Puerto Rico USA, 00692?

[AlExTEK]

Hi guys,

I bought my Mazdaspeed3 silver back on Jan 18 2007. I had a Mazda 3 SP5 in lava orange, and gave it in trade in for this one.
This is my daily driver car for work, and I was thinking on leaving it 100% stock, but my Mazdaspeed3 is screaming for the mazdaspeed intake, lol..

[gr81 Mazdaspeed]

which one is better the cp-e intake or this intake? Or are they pretty much the same.

[CosmoMS3]

I just bought my CAI for MS3 (Thanks, Ken). In the installation paperwork it is stated that "All warrantees are null and void if water is ingested into the intake system". You are being warned that if you anticipate traversing deep water you should remove the CAI system. My only concern is driving on highway at high speeds during heavy rainfall. Any feedback on that?

[Captain KRM P5]

Hi Captain,

How much will the shipping be to Puerto Rico USA, 00692?

$315 shipped

I just bought my CAI for MS3 (Thanks, Ken). In the installation paperwork it is stated that "All warrantees are null and void if water is ingested into the intake system". You are being warned that if you anticipate traversing deep water you should remove the CAI system. My only concern is driving on highway at high speeds during heavy rainfall. Any feedback on that?

come back any time, we're opening mid-April. i would say unless you drive your car into a lake there is little chance of water ingestion into the intake.


which one is better the cp-e intake or this intake? Or are they pretty much the same.
my opinion is that any differences are marginal between the two

[gr81 Mazdaspeed]

ok then what about shipping to 91737 California.

[jhowey]

I would like to see pics, of the MS CAI from the bottom, just how the filter sits. If you have those ken and could post them that would be great.

[Ferdball]

I would like to see pics, of the MS CAI from the bottom, just how the filter sits. If you have those ken and could post them that would be great.

And don't call me Ken. :)

[jhowey]

Thanks for that, I suppose the shield that comes with it helps a lot but that is why I like the CPE better because it hooks up, probably sacrifices a horse or two but that extra foot means a lot. I almost Hydrolocked my 06 Mazda 3, with a K & N that sits like that and I live in Phoenix, dry and hot 360 days a year and flooded 5 days. LOL sorry Ferd i just figured he would have the easiest access to pictures.

[Ferdball]

Thanks for that, I suppose the shield that comes with it helps a lot but that is why I like the CPE better because it hooks up, probably sacrifices a horse or two but that extra foot means a lot. I almost Hydrolocked my 06 Mazda 3, with a K & N that sits like that and I live in Phoenix, dry and hot 360 days a year and flooded 5 days. LOL sorry Ferd i just figured he would have the easiest access to pictures.
How do you know when you almost hydrolock?
Here's some more pics if you're interested.
http://picasaweb.google.com/fmazon/Mazdaspeed3CAIInstall

[jhowey]

Cause I was an idiot turned a corner, and was in a1-2 feet of water, the car stalled, I got pushed out and came back like 4 hours later and started my car and it smoked for about 30 minutes, the first 10 minutes it like filled the street with white smoke.

[nondual]

Cause I was an idiot turned a corner, and was in a1-2 feet of water, the car stalled, I got pushed out and came back like 4 hours later and started my car and it smoked for about 30 minutes, the first 10 minutes it like filled the street with white smoke.
Wow, that sounds oddly like a 'Carfax' commercial.

'Recently detailed'

[Ferdball]

Cause I was an idiot turned a corner, and was in a1-2 feet of water, the car stalled, I got pushed out and came back like 4 hours later and started my car and it smoked for about 30 minutes, the first 10 minutes it like filled the street with white smoke.
Were you at WOT? I imagine that the filter was submerged at the time. I heard it takes both.

[jhowey]

No, I was not at WOT maybe at the most 3000 rpms when I hit the water

[Ferdball]

No, I was not at WOT maybe at the most 3000 rpms when I hit the water
I guess the 2 feet of water would be enough.

Another thing to think about is that if that happened again, the CPE CAI would injest the water and keep a bunch in the bottom pipe. The MS CAI, since it is pointing downward, would just let the excess water drain.

[jhowey]

Didnt think of that but very true, so if I almost lock it again, ill have to take of the filter and vaccumm out the water sitting on the bottom before I fire my car up again.

[peanutsparts]

no offense,

but where do yall live to have 2 feet of water to drive through?

if ur stupid enough to go WOT through a large puddle, w/out worry whats in the puddle(maybe large pot hole). mayB you pay the cost of buying a new engine, after it locks up.

[jhowey]

I was in a bind, trying to get home after work, my son was sick, just picked him up, and i was driving through a storm when telephone lines went down, several cars were trapped and so I tried to negotiate my way through a neighborhood I was not familiar with and bam went into a sunken part of the roadway, It was one of the worse storms Ive been through in over a decade hear in Arizona, like I said 360 days of heat and nice weather, 5 days of flooding a year, and I was not at WOT also visibility was like at 10% that afternoon.

[mage182]

Does anyone who has this installed have any thoughts on installing a bypass like such? It would make me feel a lot better about it.


http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=20

[Ferdball]

Does anyone who has this installed have any thoughts on installing a bypass like such? It would make me feel a lot better about it.


http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=20

is NOT for use on forced induction vehicles.

[Rydog]

Captain, what is the status on my CAI order? I sent you the money via paypal as requested on Friday and haven't heard anything from you since.

-Ryan

[Captain KRM P5]

Captain, what is the status on my CAI order? I sent you the money via paypal as requested on Friday and haven't heard anything from you since.

-Ryan

hi Ryan

ups shows it being scheduled for delivery on the 27th via thier Ground Service

[gr81 Mazdaspeed]

Does the cp-e one come with a heat shield also cuz i havent seen any in the pics. and Captain what is the price with shipping to 91737 California?

[jhowey]

No shield for the CPE

[Bastardracing]

Hi, do you ship to Europe?

[redheaddstpch1d]

Ken,

I also sent payment via Paypal on friday, any news on my intake.

[Rydog]

hi Ryan

ups shows it being scheduled for delivery on the 27th via thier Ground Service


Great, thanks Captain.

[redheaddstpch1d]

Got mine in the mail today, getting it installed tomorrow :D

[SAVAGE70]

Hey whast up Speed3ers? I was just wondering if the air filter element on the MS CAI cleanable? Does it have to be pre oiled before install?

[CosmoMS3]

Hey whast up Speed3ers? I was just wondering if the air filter element on the MS CAI cleanable? Does it have to be pre oiled before install?


Yes, you are supposed to wash the filter after 20.000 miles. Two bottles with cleaning solutions are included in the box when you buy the CAI. No oil is required/allowed on the filter.

[BluntDoctor]

Is the factory warranty valid if you install the CAI yourself or does it HAVE to be installed by a dealer? I have a price of 250 for labor alone from one dealer and thought that the price was outrageous.

[SwampAss]

Is the factory warranty valid if you install the CAI yourself or does it HAVE to be installed by a dealer? I have a price of 250 for labor alone from one dealer and thought that the price was outrageous.

I can't really see where they would. It's a mazda factory part. You are removing 4 bolts and a hose clamp to install it. You turn more screws/bolts to change your engine oil yet your waranty isn't affected by you doing that.

[elderlycoffee]

Does anyone have a picture of it installed?

[camrycev6]

I can't really see where they would. It's a mazda factory part. You are removing 4 bolts and a hose clamp to install it. You turn more screws/bolts to change your engine oil yet your waranty isn't affected by you doing that.

It must be more complicated than that. Mazda took 2.5 hours to put mine in. I have seen other posts where it took no less than 1.5 hours for Mazda to install it. Also...there is a electronic cable that plugs in somewhere to it (I didn't trace it...but I assume it goes to the computer.)

Finally, it doesn't void your warranty if you install it yourself --- if you do it right. If you screw it up and cause problems with your car, don't expect Mazda to cover what you messed up. If you are comfortable, knowledgable, and have the equipment to do these types of projects -- go ahead. If you are concerned, I would just order the CAI, read the instructions and then decide if you feel like doing it. Being armed with more information is always a good thing!

[SwampAss]

1.0 hours of it is probably trying to remove the splash shield behind the fog light :)

[redheaddstpch1d]

1.0 hours of it is probably trying to remove the splash shield behind the fog light

Exactly, pain in the ass. A friend of mine installed it for me. He owns an SRT 4 and has done alot of modding for his car. The install took a lil over 2 hours. Looks fantastic, I'll try to get some pics of it sometime this week.

[clos561]

It must be more complicated than that. Mazda took 2.5 hours to put mine in. I have seen other posts where it took no less than 1.5 hours for Mazda to install it. Also...there is a electronic cable that plugs in somewhere to it (I didn't trace it...but I assume it goes to the computer.)

Finally, it doesn't void your warranty if you install it yourself --- if you do it right. If you screw it up and cause problems with your car, don't expect Mazda to cover what you messed up. If you are comfortable, knowledgable, and have the equipment to do these types of projects -- go ahead. If you are concerned, I would just order the CAI, read the instructions and then decide if you feel like doing it. Being armed with more information is always a good thing!
yea isnt the cable jsut the sensor that was on the stock airbox? i would think u jsut remove the 2 bolts that hold the plug from stock and bolt to cai as long as it faces the right way

[camrycev6]

Perhaps...I didn't watch them put it in, but it is clear that it gets reconnected to the new CAI. Like I said, I am sure once the parts arrive, the instructions should explain all. After looking at them, a good educated decision can be made on how to proceed. (Do-it-yourself project, or dealer.)

[SwampAss]

yea isnt the cable jsut the sensor that was on the stock airbox? i would think u jsut remove the 2 bolts that hold the plug from stock and bolt to cai as long as it faces the right way


the Mass Air Flow sensor has to be removed and reinstalled into the CAI. (two screws) You also have to move some sort of EFI resistor from the inner fender well to the CAI pipe. There's no real magic to the install but if you don't feel comfortable, by all means, have someone else do it. It's a big step (atleast for me) to defile a virgin car with my dirty and soiled tools.(birthday)

[bast525]

Still any of these available? Or will be more soon?

I just sold off the last of the parts from my SRT-4, waiting for the money order in the mail, and then I definately want one of these.

Exact price with shipping to 23320 would be great as well.

Also, do you definately need to reset the ECU for this, is that in the instructions or is that just something you guys felt was a good idea? Seems to me if you dont' reset the computer would adjust in a short time and you would get the benefit either way. I've seen more cars LOSE power after ECU resets.....

[Ferdball]

Still any of these available? Or will be more soon?

I just sold off the last of the parts from my SRT-4, waiting for the money order in the mail, and then I definately want one of these.

Exact price with shipping to 23320 would be great as well.

Also, do you definately need to reset the ECU for this, is that in the instructions or is that just something you guys felt was a good idea? Seems to me if you dont' reset the computer would adjust in a short time and you would get the benefit either way. I've seen more cars LOSE power after ECU resets.....
Check with the vendor on the first page.

The ECU reset is a little gray. I didn't reset mine immediately after the install, but I felt the change right away. Some say that it lets your car learn the new ability quicker. If you do it, make sure you press the brakes after disconnecting the batt.

[SwampAss]

1st or second line in the instructions is "remove negative cable from battery. Doesn't that pretty much reset the ECU?

[xxshark]

QUOTE=elderlycoffee]Does anyone have a picture of it installed?[/QUOTE]
does this help.it just top.104133104134

[BlackJack]

Wow, I didn't know it would be down there. I just simply thought it would be on top as usual. Odd, but cool design!

[SAVAGE70]

Hello Speed3ers whats up? Hey Swamp Im not sure if that resets the ECU.The head tech at my Mazda dealer showed me how to reset the ECU. But if it did wouldn't the ECU have to learn new parameters and stuff and recognize that the CAI has been installed?

[clos561]

its proly best to just let the computer adjust itself

[camrycev6]

They told me the computer adjusts itself automatically to the new intake. I am guessing that is why you reset it. When it comes "back online" with the new CAI, it just learns from there...

[mage182]

Has anyone heard from the captain? I ordered a CAI from him over a week ago and haven't gotten a tracking number or any word from him about the shipment.

[Captain KRM P5]

Has anyone heard from the captain? I ordered a CAI from him over a week ago and haven't gotten a tracking number or any word from him about the shipment.

i've been spending all week at our new shop which has no internet access right now. i'll go back through my PMs to find and reply to yours.

[bast525]

Captain - Do you still have any CAI's available for sale? I will be ready to by one shortly... just sold off the last of my parts from my last car.

I did PM you as well. Looking forward to getting the first part for my car here :D

[maratik999]

Captain,

I am also interested to find out if there are any Intakes left for the GB price. Additionally, i have sent you a PM as well. THanks.

[clos561]

i have hks bov vta, can i run it recirc with that intake?

[$inCitySpeed3]

capt, any more?

[gcris]

yea, do you have anymore? if so, how much would it be shipped to northern va 22042?

[$inCitySpeed3]

ordered mine from RTM for 310 shipped since capt didn't answer

[Captain KRM P5]

sorry everyone, my internet access has been spotty during the move. i am no longer doing GB pricing on the intakes at this time. thank you.

[$inCitySpeed3]

its ok ron tonkin is sekking for that price anyways

[bast525]

Capt - how much is the non- group buy price??

[Captain KRM P5]

Capt - how much is the non- group buy price??

http://mazda3online.web.aplus.net/product_info.php?cPath=22_160_258&products_id=869

[bast525]

Got my CAI ordered from Capt's shop today... apparently got the last one they had (until Monday, anyways, which I guess they are expecting a new shipment then). $320 shipped, I'm not complaining :D

Can't wait to get it installed!!!

[clos561]

what if we get another group order going can you bring the price down?

like 280 shipped?

[Captain KRM P5]

what if we get another group order going can you bring the price down?

like 280 shipped?

thats pretty much giving them away, so no, sorry, i can't go that low.

[clos561]

what can u do on price for a group buy? how mayn people would you need?

[bast525]

thats pretty much giving them away, so no, sorry, i can't go that low.

Capt - the dude I placed my order with on the phone Thursday afternoon said it would ship Thursday or Friday and he'd email me a tracking number. Haven't gotten that yet... I kinda had a feeling mine wouldn't ship til after Monday anyways :P But I'm hoping I can have it by next weekend. Please update me when it ships or let me know when you expect to ship it, as I have to 'reserve' time at my friends shop if I'm going to go down and install it this weekend.

[bast525]

Awesome, got my tracking number today... intake is due here in two days, just in time to get it installed this weekend.

[SAVAGE70]

Hey fellow Speed3ers whats up? Just curious about the Mazdaspeed CAI. Does it come with installation instructions?

[clos561]

a different thread has told me yes..so yes...(blah)

[SSMS3]

Is this GB still going on?

[MadOzodi]

Nope, sorry d00d.

[clos561]

cant we get another going?

[herbzkim]

cant we get another going?

Yes PLEASE!

[Captain KRM P5]

i've already lowered the price to 309 on the website. that is as low as its going to get.

[Ferdball]

i've already lowered the price to 309 on the website. that is as low as its going to get.

That's actually a nickel less than the Group Buy price. ACT NOW!

http://mazda3online.web.aplus.net/product_info.php?cPath=22_160_258&products_id=869

[SSMS3]

That's actually a nickel less than the Group Buy price. ACT NOW!

http://mazda3online.web.aplus.net/product_info.php?cPath=22_160_258&products_id=869

Ordered one last night, good price!

[herbzkim]

i've already lowered the price to 309 on the website. that is as low as its going to get.

How long is this price going to last?

Thank you!

[Captain KRM P5]

indefinetely

[bast525]

indefinetely

LOL lower the price $10 a week after I get mine... I see how it is.

It's all good though, for real. I still thought $320 was a good price considering you used Fed Ex 2 day shipping too.

Got the intake in over the weekend... definatley a noticeable difference. Install went super smooth, took about 1.5 hours. Probably one of the best "only $300" mods I've ever done.

[Captain KRM P5]

LOL lower the price $10 a week after I get mine... I see how it is.

.

someone pointed out to me that another vendor was selling them for $310 shipped so per my own policy i had to oblige :(

[bast525]

someone pointed out to me that another vendor was selling them for $310 shipped so per my own policy i had to oblige :(

maybe you can give me a $10 discount whenever I buy another part... though it probably won't be for a long time and we'll have both long forgotten by then (sad1)

No big deal I'm happy with my purchase and the fact that I had a friend willing to help me with the install so saved a bunch of money there too.

[Captain KRM P5]

for those still looking for an intake deal;

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3117871#post3117871