Perrin exhaust vs. Vibrant exhaust

[NDM-SPEC]

I just wanted to ask around which people prefer between the Perrin exhaust and the Vibrant exhaust. I bought a 2003.5 MSP #844 bout a month ago and I've juss been lookin around at parts and I found these two exhaust systems and I'm havin trouble deciding which one i want. I also wanted to ask if anyone has seen the OBX turbo manifolds and if they know if they r worth even looking at or if they r just a POS. Thanks for any info.

Later,
ND M-SPEC

[MrDiggler]

I love my Vibrant, but I have to be honest about my experience with their warranty service... extremely slow. They're good guys and they mean well, but are obviously overextended. I've been dealing with what now appears to be a failed resonator or muffler for over four months, and I'm still waiting for resolution.

[Omar MSP]

i own the vibrant. i couldn't be happier.

i was in your shoe's once, i was debating on perrin and vibrant. purchased the vibrant and it sounds incredible. not to mention the power gain. im not dissappointed.

[cmahlig]

imo, perrin sounds like crap. the vibrant replaces the j pipe whilst the perrin does not. the vibrant sounds incredible plus yields more gians. vibrant ftw

[NDM-SPEC]

Well thanks guys. I was actually leaning towards the Perrin, but if u say it sounds a lot better than I'll take ur word for it.. Thanks for everythin.
Later

[YARDMAN]

Im Gettin The Vibrant Cuz I Can Get The Turbo Back For About 900 Brand New. But Yea It Does Sound Better Than The Perrin.

[MrDiggler]

Mine sounded great until something blew out. Now my wife can hear me coming from almost a mile away if she's outside. I don't want to steer you away from it b/c I think I'm one of only two people that have had a noise problem down the road, but I didn't want to you be uninformed either. If you go Vibrant, tell your vendor (or Vibrant) that you expect to be taken care of if you indeed run into trouble. Even with the headaches, I'd still buy one again. Oh, and don't even think about installing it before PM'ing me or JDM Sam about how to route the O2 wires and which s-pipe bolt solution works. We can save you a lot of trouble on that.

*edit* Mine was considerably less than $900 through JDM Sam. Check with him on the current price.

[kicker22705]

i had the Perrin for about 2 years and have Vibrant now. They are both great exhaust imo. both beautifully constructed with high quality material. Bare in mind they are two very different exhaust.

The Perrin is much more race oriented. Its less restrictive as it's a 3" straight thru w/ no cats, no resonators, and a straight thru canister muffler. As you can imagine its loud as sh*t. i got 2 noise violations tickets w/ this exhaust even w/ an ultra quiet resonator i had welded on (hence me rockin a vibrant now)

The Vibrant is more street oriented. They start off 2.5" and then gradually flare to 3" by the mid-pipe. It also has 1 cat, 1 resonator, and n1 style muffler which all make it much easier on the ears. it is more quiet than the Perrin, especially on the highway where the Perrin tends to drone, but its still loud.

I honestly thought the Perrin sounded better, others may disagree. The Perrin sounded so damn mean and agressive. It would gurgle, pop, and shoot fireballs at will. it was a lot of fun, but i couldn't afford any more tickets and my ears couldn't take anymore of the droning on the long trips.

The Vibrant although sounds nice, won't be distinguished from the sea of other exhausts that sound similar. It's very tamed which can be a good or bad thing depending on what your looking for.

[Knox Joe]

i had the Perrin for about 2 years and have Vibrant now. They are both great exhaust imo. both beautifully constructed with high quality material. Bare in mind they are two very different exhaust.

The Perrin is much more race oriented. Its less restrictive as it's a 3" straight thru w/ no cats, no resonators, and a straight thru canister muffler. As you can imagine its loud as sh*t. i got 2 noise violations tickets w/ this exhaust even w/ an ultra quiet resonator i had welded on (hence me rockin a vibrant now)


I honestly thought the Perrin sounded better, others may disagree. The Perrin sounded so damn mean and agressive. It would gurgle, pop, and shoot fireballs at will. it was a lot of fun, but i couldn't afford any more tickets and my ears couldn't take anymore of the droning on the long trips.



I have the Perrin and I concur with all these statements.

Sounds so much better thank any other import around here, the Perrin has a nice deep tone.(ricer)

But like kicker said, it's loud!, and it drones. I may go deaf just driving.


Oh, and I love shooting fireballs.

[mazdaspeedwerx]

haha fireballs are awesome. I have the perrin exhaust. I only dislike 2 things about it the highway drone and no j-pipe. the price for a new perrin is like 6-700 now and you can get a jpipe made. if you buy a vibrant you will always have a restriction. I dont know how a vibrant can have more gain than a perrin either.

[jmv]

oh and to add to your curiousty, the OBX mani is pretty much crap, and won't work with the stock turbo either (different flange).

[NDM-SPEC]

Haha thanks for the comments... the fireballs sound pretty good right now... I was going for the vibrant but now i'm not sure anymore...I still have time before I can even get either one, but idk thanks for everything.
Later,

[Omar MSP]

Haha thanks for the comments... the fireballs sound pretty good right now... I was going for the vibrant but now i'm not sure anymore...I still have time before I can even get either one, but idk thanks for everything.
Later,
don't let fireballs fool you man. its all about performance. the vibrant has a nice backfire, not a fireball, but a nice gargle and pops.

whats the point of shooting a flame and get pwned during a race? i don't see the point.

[NDM-SPEC]

I juss think its funny how some cars shoot fireballs... I am gung ho for performance but idk which actaully performs better thus one of the reason for this thread.
Thanks

[kicker22705]

if is down to performance Perrin is the one you want. No cats + no res + full 3" = least restrictive Exhaust for the MSP. its that simple, you can ask any turbo gear head.

Sure Vibrant has a J, a whole half of foot of exhaust which is a maybe 1/4-1/2 inches bigger than stock? that won't overcome the restriction and turbulence created by the cat & res.

If you really want that j-pipe jus get the whole cork sport downpipe like i did. hell i still have the J-pipe from the corksport i don't even use i'll sell to you for 20 bucks plus shipping if you want it that bad.

either way you can't go wrong. both perform and sound good. probably similarly enough under typically levels of boost (7-10psi) that you won't feel the difference.

[MrDiggler]

One will also allow you to pass emissions. Now that my Vibrant is louder than it used to be, I can tell you that I can't get this f-in thing fixed fast enough. 95% of the time I'm hating the louder noise. You gotta really stop and think about putting what amounts to a race exhaust on a street car unless you're a glutton for punishment.

[Knox Joe]

You gotta really stop and think about putting what amounts to a race exhaust on a street car unless you're a glutton for punishment.

He's very right. While I love my car and her exhaust, she's not my daily driver. I've got a company vehicle for daily use, I bring out the MSP when I just want to have fun. Alway's getting in the car knowing that I'm getting into a car that is obscenely loud.

[mazdaspeedwerx]

I forgot the corksport j-pipe works with perrin so you dont even need to get a pipe made. have you considered ghl?

[sandspeed]

I haven't heard either exhaust but if I needed to choose one than I would buy the vibrant because it includes a better j-pipe.

yet I must say,

GHL full downpipe w/highflow cat ftw(alright)

[MrDiggler]

I haven't heard either exhaust but if I needed to choose one than I would buy the vibrant because it includes a better j-pipe.

yet I must say,

GHL full downpipe w/highflow cat ftw(alright)

(mswerd)

[GreySpeed]

+1 for the vibrant. Random backfires are loud and sound great, leave the flames to the Skyline's and Supra's, and the install is not too hard if you research for a bit first. Go with Perrin when you're upgrading to the FMIC though.

[mazdaspeedwerx]

I love my perrin fmic. perrin makes good products imo. virtualy everything that I have bought for my car is perrin.

[DeuceMalicai]

love my vibrant with the hks twist:cool: definitely one of my favorite mods(thumb)

[mspHtown]

i love my vibrant exhaust. my friend with a gsr loves it so much hes gonn abuy one for his car.

[GreySpeed]

^^I also love your vibrant/HKS combo DeuceMalicai. That muffler is pure s3x!!

[Omar MSP]

^^I also love your vibrant/HKS combo DeuceMalicai. That muffler is pure s3x!!
where can i just the muffler like that? i've been looking for one for a while now.

[NDM-SPEC]

+1 for the vibrant. Random backfires are loud and sound great, leave the flames to the Skyline's and Supra's, and the install is not too hard if you research for a bit first. Go with Perrin when you're upgrading to the FMIC though.

I think I'm going to go witht he perrin bc I was planning on saving a little cash and getting both my exhaust and FMIC at the same time... If i wasn't getting the FMIC I would still not be sure which i'd get, but as of this point my mind is pretty much set on Perrin.(rofl)

[Omar MSP]

I think I'm going to go witht he perrin bc I was planning on saving a little cash and getting both my exhaust and FMIC at the same time... If i wasn't getting the FMIC I would still not be sure which i'd get, but as of this point my mind is pretty much set on Perrin.(rofl)
thats fine and all.

just don't get in trouble with sound pollution and running your car without a cat. goodluck.

[DeuceMalicai]

^^I also love your vibrant/HKS combo DeuceMalicai. That muffler is pure s3x!!

thanks man! definitely appreciate it!

[mazpro]

yeah, that combination is great, the sound and performance are great! I have been on Deuce's car and driven behind it and it sounds good as hell, Deep and just loud enough.

[DeuceMalicai]

yeah, that combination is great, the sound and performance are great! I have been on Deuce's car and driven behind it and it sounds good as hell, Deep and just loud enough.

thank you sir! appreciate it!

[daedalus]

I've heard great things about the vibrant, but i'm personally going to be going with a GHL Downpipe/Perrin Exhaust setup soon and swapping out my JIC for something with a bit more girth and sound.

[503MSP]

I've heard great things about the vibrant, but i'm personally going to be going with a GHL Downpipe/Perrin Exhaust setup soon and swapping out my JIC for something with a bit more girth and sound.


I thought you were trying to sell your car or already did

[daedalus]

I thought you were trying to sell your car or already did

I was, tried to sell it numerous times. Got people from all over the country to make promises, buy airplane tickets, and still get denied on financing. My new career path no longer dictates about a worry for money, so there is no point in selling it. Just going to be an addition to a new car collection and part of my family for a LONG time. Gonna "finish" her this summer hopefully if i can get some things nailed down (i.e. build my dreamhouse).

[MrDiggler]

You slingin' crack now or what, D?

[daedalus]

You slingin' crack now or what, D? Pshhh... you know it! Plus, my ho's keep a good cash flow on top of the crack. (I'm actually a daytrader in the futures market).

[jmv]

I was, tried to sell it numerous times. Got people from all over the country to make promises, buy airplane tickets, and still get denied on financing. My new career path no longer dictates about a worry for money, so there is no point in selling it. Just going to be an addition to a new car collection and part of my family for a LONG time. Gonna "finish" her this summer hopefully if i can get some things nailed down (i.e. build my dreamhouse).


YES!!! the bannana of fury lives. Can't wait to see what you have in store!!

[MrDiggler]

Pshhh... you know it! Plus, my ho's keep a good cash flow on top of the crack. (I'm actually a daytrader in the futures market).

My uncle has been daytrading for years. Hasn't had to "work" in a very long time. Hmmm...

[peajay]

anyone have any sounds clips? or know where i can get some. after hanging with subbie guys im kinda partial to perrin in general but other than the almost neck and neck power gains between the two i kinda want to get a general idea of what they sound like

[ChopstickHero]

I've had the Perrin on my car for 3 months (borrowed it from a friend), and it was obnoxiously loud. I loved the power increase though. Nothing beats it. The turbo spools so easily and you really don't have to press the throttle down alot to get going. But it did rattle alot in the rear section. Perhaps better exhaust hangers would reduce the swaying. I have heard the Vibrant and it's loud too, but not as loud as the Perrin. The cat on the Vibrant is most likely dampening some of the sound.

[Knox Joe]

But it did rattle alot in the rear section. Perhaps better exhaust hangers would reduce the swaying.

Nope, just installed Kartboys yesterday, no help, and the Perrin melts the rear bumper. I don't care though.

[yashart_mp3]

Does anyone have pics of their perrin exhaust installed?