Have you had the Check Engine light come on in your MS3

[C'ville]

Please include info on milage, production number, etc.

[dread]

came on at 1400 miles purge valve, at 2500 now, build date august 06

[SwampAss]

1500 miles (moved it 2mm) and 2200 miles when that fix didn't work. Intake manifold runner switch. New part installed @ 3100 miles. No CEL afterwards.

[Bakrauf]

1256- No cell light as of yet. build date 10/06

[zoom-zoomhatch]

Right shy of 5000 miles, no cel. Not sure of prod. number. But now that I've said something about it not coming on karma is gonna come back and I'll have one.

[Pololo_MS3]

came on at 1700 miles purge valve, at 1900 now, build date august 06 :)

[Wes]

I only have 600mi on mine so far... guess I will be awaiting my CEL

[Foolish]

It's marketing, as in "hey, check out that engine!"

[Vermilion]

I've got roughly 26-2700 miles on my MS3 and now get a CEL which comes on and off on its on and is the P2006 Intake manifold runner stuck closed CEL. I've heard it doesn't mean anything different and my car still runs like a bat outta hell so, i'll just take it in when my oil change comes up.

[Rainman]

Yes, 6500 km, production number 0680. It had been stuttering like crazy in the cold weather. Took it in but nothing was wrong. Not sure what the code was...my wife took it in while I was at work. The service department told her that they were waiting for Mazda to release a ECU reflash to deal with the stuttering problem. Once the car is warm it doesn't seem to affect performance so they said not to worry about it if it comes back on.

R

[assman]

came on probably around 1000km then again shortly after, and again and again. Im at 2800km now and it just stays on all the time. Kinda like my old car so im used to it.

[Albert]

Rolled over 4K miles tonight and I'm on my 3rd CEL. First time they cleared it, saying it was a stuck valve that they lubed. Took it in again, they said there was a TSB on it, and it was a valve that wasn't seated correctly, so they removeds it and reinstalled it correctly. That lasted about a day and the CEL was back. It doesn't affect driveabiltiy, so it's staying there until I get a chance to go back in.

[xxshark]

2900 miles and nothing

[h0rde]

1000 miles and no CEL, although my dealer assures me I'll get one because he's already done two of them (out of 4 cars sold.)

[Mocoso]

1200 and nothing

[MadOzodi]

Just under 900 miles on the ODO and nothing. Where do I find my prod. #?

[Refonbass]

I'd be very curious to see if anyone who lives in a warm climate has had the "purge valve" CEL come on yet. Being in canada, the MS3 was released here before the states and I got mine in mid september. For the first few thousand km's.. or while it was fairly warm, I didn't have a single CEL. As soon as the cold weather hit, thats when cels started. I'm wondering if this really is just a cold weather problem?

[Vixen]

Just under 900 miles on the ODO and nothing. Where do I find my prod. #?
I think it's the last digits on the VIN. I'm not sure though.

As per the topic:
I've had two CEL's. ON at...1900 mi. or so and another one two weeks later. It's been pretty cold here too. So the first time they elongated the holes for the Intake Manifold Runner Control Valve Solenoid. Gave me a 70% chance it would come back on. It did and now they have a new design for the solenoid. The part should be in by Wednesday.
I would imagine this would effect all of the MS3's made until this point. They all have the same part I would imagine.
Also, After they drilled the holes for the fix the first time, I noticed an improvement in power from 3rd. It had felt "flat" before that time. I attributed it to me being a turbo newbee but still felt it wasn't normal. I started to notice a decrease again a day before the CEL came on for the second time. After they replace the part I expect to feel 3rd open up again....very excited.

[mcb]

3200k and had 2 CELs. First was p2006, they replaced with new part and now ok. Second was p0300 they did a service bulletin. Now everything is fine with CEL.

[arebee]

4k no CEL with it bought and driven in Texas. Rode it hard on the first 1000, no knocks no idle problems sounds great, and first oil change at 2800.

[White 6s]

came on at 4800. p2006 modified the intake runner about 2 weeks ago. hasnt come on since but im waiittng.

[Rainman]

I believe that this is very much a cold-weather problem as this is the most common thread among people who have posted this issue. It is present in the Mazda 5 group also and cold weather again seems to be a prominent factor. With problems so widespread Mazda has to be working on a fix for this.

R

[Hikaru9]

Got a CEL at 1800 miles when the temperature dropped down to single digit for the first time. Dealer replaced the intake manifold valve of some sort and haven't had the CEL come back on since. *^_^*

[SwampAss]

My problem has also NOT re-surfaced. Car runs better than ever.

[turbofever]

P2006 Slot holes in switch assem and adjusted cleared code.

Anyone know what this entails? Does the intake manifold need to be taken off?

[SwampAss]

P2006 Slot holes in switch assem and adjusted cleared code.

Anyone know what this entails? Does the intake manifold need to be taken off?
Doubtful as mine was completed in 1 hour including oil change and 10 minutes worth of test drives.

[VermZ06]

No CEL yet. Build date was November 2006 and it has been cold as sh*t here in the northeast.

[turbofever]

Doubtful as mine was completed in 1 hour including oil change and 10 minutes worth of test drives.
Sigh. Oil change and P2006 took 7 hours. And they somehow put 10 miles on it.(uhm)

[MadOzodi]

Change my "no" to a "yes". I'm thinking about just disconnecting the battery and letting the computer reset itself.

(naughty)

[zoom-zoomhatch]

Sigh. Oil change and P2006 took 7 hours. And they somehow put 10 miles on it.(uhm)
I pray it doesn't take that long, mine just came on today and I have an appointment with the mazda dealer at 7:30 in the morning. But I'll be there with the car so if it goes anywhere I'll know and kill if it's gone for to long. What's the P0300 code?

[mcb]

something like engine malfunction... dealer told me they removed the plugs and ran it at 4000rpm for 5 minute, cleaned the plugs and put them back in.

Is there someone that have acces to mazda service bulletins?

[Rotus8]

something like engine malfunction... dealer told me they removed the plugs and ran it at 4000rpm for 5 minute, cleaned the plugs and put them back in.

Is there someone that have acces to mazda service bulletins?
How do you run at 4000rpm without any plugs? Neat trick! (headshake

[zoom-zoomhatch]

I was thinking that maybe his post had some steps a little bit out of order.

[nondual]

Intake manifold switch ....at about 1200. They first redrilled some holes, then replaced the switch.

No problems since.

[zoom-zoomhatch]

The service techs at my dealer drilled the holes and I asked about a replacement swith and if they were going to order one since I thought the bolt extension was a temorary fix, he said they didn't have any clue what I was talking about.

[mcb]

thats what the service advisor told me... i know it dosent make sense. (poke)

[zoom-zoomhatch]

So maybe if it somehow doesn't come back on the save money. (thought)

[Vixen]

The service techs at my dealer drilled the holes and I asked about a replacement swith and if they were going to order one since I thought the bolt extension was a temorary fix, he said they didn't have any clue what I was talking about.

You can have them call my dealer....they said I was one of the first people to get the new part. It does exist.

Auffenberg Mazda - Ofallon, IL

[turbofever]

50 miles later, you guessed it, another CEL. I hate life.

[nondual]

You can have them call my dealer....they said I was one of the first people to get the new part. It does exist.

Auffenberg Mazda - Ofallon, IL
Ditto.

[redms3gt]

5800miles, still no CEL yet..

[noobinacan]

2900 miles and it came on yesterday. Took it straight to the dealer...
They have had the same problem with CX-7's and other mazdaspeed3 they sold.
why me!

[alex_mathews]

Got a CEL 2 days ago. 900 miles and code P2006. They did the intake manifold drilling thing. I was told the same thing about it happening to both CX-7s and MS3s. I was also told that the switch replacement part is currently being manufactured, so it would need to be special ordered if I needed it.

[nondual]

Got a CEL 2 days ago. 900 miles and code P2006. They did the intake manifold drilling thing. I was told the same thing about it happening to both CX-7s and MS3s. I was also told that the switch replacement part is currently being manufactured, so it would need to be special ordered if I needed it.
Memo: You'll need it. The hole-drilling doesn't seem to EVER work, and even if it 'did'...the switch is still defective and it needs to be changed.

[alex_mathews]

Memo: You'll need it. The hole-drilling doesn't seem to EVER work, and even if it 'did'...the switch is still defective and it needs to be changed.

That's what I figured.

[zoom-zoomhatch]

Memo: You'll need it. The hole-drilling doesn't seem to EVER work, and even if it 'did'...the switch is still defective and it needs to be changed.

What exactly does the said switch do exactly?

[noobinacan]

anyone know how long is the wait on the new part ?

In the mornings, when I start the car, the light is not there...but after it warms up..and after the turbo kicks in, I see it right away. There is a drop in performance due to this, I can feel it/ notice it.

[nondual]

What exactly does the said swith do exactly?
It somehow adjusts the turbulence of the air coming into the manifold so that you get better torque at low revs....

Or at least that's what the tech said.

[VAspeed3]

10,800 miles, no CEL. It has sputtered twice for a few seconds, ran very rich & smoked a bit, then it cleared up right away. Maybe the manifold switch mentioned above is about to croak.

[zoom-zoomhatch]

Almost 11k miles, you've been doin' some driving in that thing.

[benzo]

CEL on @ 1295 miles(P2006 intake runner control-Adjusted), CEL on @ 4636 miles(P2006 intake runner control-adjusted), CEL on @ 5608 miles (P2006 intake runner control-replaced IMRC Actuator), CEL on 6300 miles(P2006 intake runner control,O2 sensor code-Ordered IMRC Actuator). Waiting to get the car back. Hopefully will get it back Wed. Then will talk to Mazda about issues and see what they will be able to do for me.

[benzo]

It somehow adjusts the turbulence of the air coming into the manifold so that you get better torque at low revs....

Or at least that's what the tech said.


The tech and manager told me that the switch tells the cumputer if the flap is open or closed. That is all it is...an open or closed signal. The flap causes turbulence when the car is cold to help with cold starts. I didnt hear anything about torque though.

[noobinacan]

The tech and manager told me that the switch tells the cumputer if the flap is open or closed. That is all it is...an open or closed signal. The flap causes turbulence when the car is cold to help with cold starts. I didnt hear anything about torque though.

Benzo. wow - that sucks. I hope mine doesn't do that.
Its been gone all day today. It was there yesterday. lets wait and see what happens.

[mafanchai]

I also had P2006 last month and now 500 miles later .. another CEL , I was going to mod but since i have to sent it back and not sure if i will be getting another one.. Dun know if i should mod it till it is properly fix. CEL SUCKS...
(bang)

[benzo]

I was counting on doing mods to this car but since i will be taking this to the next step I think I will have to wait.

[cu12t15]

i just installed my hks hi-power exhaust in my '06 3 hatch and the engine light is on.....anyone know how i can fix this?

[JPDawg]

I thought I was one of the lucky ones w/o a CEL, but got one this weekend at 4513. It was the standard P2006/intake runner stuck closed issue. Dealer said all they have sold (about 5 or 6 he said) have come back with the same problem. I was in & out in about an hour. No problems since.

[Rotus8]

i just installed my hks hi-power exhaust in my '06 3 hatch and the engine light is on.....anyone know how i can fix this?
You probably screwed up an O2 sensor. Did you hook them back up after the install? Does the new pipe even support the O2 sensors? You may need to get a sensor eliminator to fool the ECU that they are there and working.

[nondual]

Benzo. wow - that sucks. I hope mine doesn't do that.
Its been gone all day today. It was there yesterday. lets wait and see what happens.
Hey, just be happy the engine didn't FALL OUT OF THE CAR.

[benzo]

Hey, just be happy the engine didn't FALL OUT OF THE CAR.

Well that is next weeks problem.

[knowledge007]

@ approx. 3000 miles, bad purge valve. Replaced purge valve running @ 7000 now and everything is good. Assembled in August of 06

[alex_mathews]

Got a CEL 2 days ago. 900 miles and code P2006. They did the intake manifold drilling thing. I was told the same thing about it happening to both CX-7s and MS3s. I was also told that the switch replacement part is currently being manufactured, so it would need to be special ordered if I needed it.

I had the CEL come back on now, which was pretty much expected. The dealer I originally took my car to said they won't get the switch part for 2 weeks or so. Anybody know of a dealer in NJ that has the part in stock?

[VermZ06]

Welp I've officially joined the CEL club today! I had many wonderful CEL's come on with the protege so this is nothing new to me. P2006 it is indeed. These new cars are just so sensitive to everything and if one little thing isn't working properly off to the dealer you go. This doesn't seem like a major issue, hopefully mazda will make good for such a common issue. How 'bout a free MS CAI mazda?

[ZoomRedZoomGT]

Not sure my build date or number... CEL came on this morning after I stopped at the store and restarted. Taken it in Monday.

[ch77]

So far, nothing. 1580 miles, car built in December, picked up in February.

I guess I'm due for a CEL and a trip to the dealer - except I was told that the dealership where I bought my car is shutting down! Oh well.. The one on the way to work is also a Mazdaspeed dealer, I just think the sales guys they have are incompetent. The service department isn't bad, from my experience with taking the old P5 there..

[ZoomRedZoomGT]

Oh ya...CEL came on at 2282 miles

[arebee]

still no cel at 4500

[ZoomRedZoomGT]

Crazy...got in the car to drive to work this morning and when I fired her up...CEL had cleared itself.

[alex_mathews]

I had it clear itself once, but now it seems to be staying on.

[Adammazda06]

Over 6000 miles, bought in November. No CEL.

[obaa996]

1400 and CEL

[vdawg2344]

I got a CEL @4800 miles. Took it in an it was the MIRC sensor. (P2006). They said there was a new sensor and they just had to replace it. I also noticed a "Reprogram" so I think they reflashed the ECU. Seems to run great.

I was surprised....they didnt mention anything about me cutting holes in my air-filter box!

[Speedy3]

7800 miles, no CEL.

[DevinMcCauley]

I changed m intake in the car and the light came on. All you gotta do for that one is simply unhook the neg. end of battery for bout 15-30 minutes and put it back on and walla.

[JAVITATO]

Greetings from Spain.

Here the MS3 is called Mazda3 MPS.

We are a few people with the car by the moment, something like 5 people in Madrid. Guess what? Two of us have started with CELs.

One is confirmed, P2006 (my friend´s one), with 3.000 km (1.875 miles)

The other (mine, came also with 1900 miles) is not confirmed to be a p2006. It came on one whole day. The day after it didn´t come on, and in the shop they could not read any dtc code.

The thing is that our mechanics are not familiar with the problem and they don´t know how to proceed. It seems that Mazda Spain is not advised, or don´t want to be...

The thing is, can you help us? Could anybody give to us copy of any document issued by Mazda USA referring to this problem? Any official bulletin or whatever? Anything??

It´s funny, but we have to teach our mechanic shops about this. Spain will import 200 MPS (MS3) per year, so they do not pay much atention to us...

Thank you in advance!

[jhowey]

500 Miles produced 12/06 no cel

[Vixen]

Greetings from Spain.

Here the MS3 is called Mazda3 MPS.

We are a few people with the car by the moment, something like 5 people in Madrid. Guess what? Two of us have started with CELs.

One is confirmed, P2006 (my friend´s one), with 3.000 km (1.875 miles)

The other (mine, came also with 1900 miles) is not confirmed to be a p2006. It came on one whole day. The day after it didn´t come on, and in the shop they could not read any dtc code.

The thing is that our mechanics are not familiar with the problem and they don´t know how to proceed. It seems that Mazda Spain is not advised, or don´t want to be...

The thing is, can you help us? Could anybody give to us copy of any document issued by Mazda USA referring to this problem? Any official bulletin or whatever? Anything??

It´s funny, but we have to teach our mechanic shops about this. Spain will import 200 MPS (MS3) per year, so they do not pay much atention to us...

Thank you in advance!
I don't have any documentation. There isn't any kind of official bulletin yet, that I know of. My mazda mechanic had to call Engineering to figure out the temporary fix for the problem. I now have the new part instead of just the quick fix for the IMRC problem. If there is a part available then they should be able to get it for you. Seems strange that they can't find out the information on their own. One thing you could do is print off some of the messages about it here in the forum. There's a few different threads on the CEL and they should be of some help to the mechanics. They could also call a dealer here in the U.S. to see if they can help.
Sorry you have to work so hard to get your car fixed! Good Luck!

[JAVITATO]

Thanks a lot for your advice!

We will print off some threads about the subject, and get in touch with Mazda Spain about it.

I agree, it is surprising that our dealers can´t manage themselves to solve this problem...

In Spain, the MAZDA 6 MPS (MS6) is in the market since... more than a year. This is supposed to be also the 2.3 T engine, does it have the same problem? The MS3 is brand new (less than 3 months in the market).

We will keep on moving. By the moment my light is gone, and the car seems to work good.

Thanks!

[Vixen]

My light came on and went off a few times. They were always able to read the code though. The only noticeable issue for me, as far as performance, was that I didn't feel I had as much power in 3rd as I should have. It just felt restricted. Since they replaced the part, It feels a lot better.
I don't think the MS6 has had the same issue. Although I know it had others. But I do know that the CX7 is having the same problem. It is new for this year as well.

[Rainman]

My MS6 does NOT have this problem. The MS3, on the other hand is affected really bad. I haven't pushed the issue at the dealership yet since the fix is not official yet.

R

[JAVITATO]

The light has came out again after 150 miles. I am afraid that tomorrow it is not there, so these stupid mechanics will not be able to see the code. I don´t like this things in a new car. I guess this is my first and last mazda.

I can not understand that this people do not handle the problem properly in its most powerful car. I just can not understand.

[Rotus8]

The light has came out again after 150 miles. I am afraid that tomorrow it is not there, so these stupid mechanics will not be able to see the code. I don´t like this things in a new car. I guess this is my first and last mazda.

I can not understand that this people do not handle the problem properly in its most powerful car. I just can not understand.
If the light comes on and then goes off again, it is still stored in the computer memory unless you disconnect the battery. Even if the light has gone off, they can scan it out. Make 'em fix it, whatever it is.

[JAVITATO]

If the light comes on and then goes off again, it is still stored in the computer memory unless you disconnect the battery. Even if the light has gone off, they can scan it out. Make 'em fix it, whatever it is.

I know they should... but they just tell me that nothing comes out when they scan. Tomorrow morning I will insist, but they are asking me to arrive with light on, which you can imagine is difficult...

[MadOzodi]

I know they should... but they just tell me that nothing comes out when they scan. Tomorrow morning I will insist, but they are asking me to arrive with light on, which you can imagine is difficult...

Unacceptable!!! I went in to my dealership without my CEL on and they were able to scan the computer and pull up the P2006 codes. The replacement part was ordered that same day and my car was fixed 2 days later. You need to insist HARDER!

Good Luck!

[JAVITATO]

Unacceptable!!! I went in to my dealership without my CEL on and they were able to scan the computer and pull up the P2006 codes. The replacement part was ordered that same day and my car was fixed 2 days later. You need to insist HARDER!

Good Luck!

This morning I was "lucky", and I got the light going out from the house. I inmediately went to the shop, and finally we got the P2006.

By the way, the guy was amazed: he was switching the car and I said "I bet you whatever you want that you get a P2006". He could not belive that I guessed it.

I have tried to explain them that this problem is already known in US and Canada, and I even gave him the reference for the new part. They have to investigate, and let´s see. They say that they have to try to arrange it on their own before call Mazda (protocol, you know). They would save monney if they follow my advise, but... (yawn)

I can not understand that Mazda is selling this car in the whole Europe without correcting this problem. Simply unacceptable, don´t you agree?

I am thinking about write Mazda Spain about this.

Thank you to all of you , and to the FORUM. I´ll tell you about the end of this story.

[lcunnion]

3,600 miles. owned 3 months. nothing yet. live in southern virginia.

[BlackJack]

OT: Shouldn't this go into the new CEL subforum?
/OT

Just one at 250 for a stupid loose 02 sensor connector. Otherwise, purrdyyy.

[mark404040]

I had CEL when it was about 2.5k miles. code is P2006, the problem of stock CAI. i got fixed just right after it lights up.

[Choot]

happened this morning at 660 miles!

[Bastardracing]

This morning I was "lucky", and I got the light going out from the house. I inmediately went to the shop, and finally we got the P2006.

By the way, the guy was amazed: he was switching the car and I said "I bet you whatever you want that you get a P2006". He could not belive that I guessed it.

I have tried to explain them that this problem is already known in US and Canada, and I even gave him the reference for the new part. They have to investigate, and let´s see. They say that they have to try to arrange it on their own before call Mazda (protocol, you know). They would save monney if they follow my advise, but... (yawn)

I can not understand that Mazda is selling this car in the whole Europe without correcting this problem. Simply unacceptable, don´t you agree?

I am thinking about write Mazda Spain about this.

Thank you to all of you , and to the FORUM. I´ll tell you about the end of this story.

This is what I fear here in Sweden as well, Mazda Sweden knows nothing about the car. We will get no performance parts and they generally seem clueless when I told them about the CEL problems encountered in other parts of the world. I've only hade my car for a week, so I haven't had any problems yet, but I guess I will sooner or later...

[assman]

Well in Ontario the dealer said he would shave down the part then see if it comes back because the part is in such high demand that they wont get it for a while.

THen i go to Quebec and they call me up and say the part is in and no CEL in about 1300km now. WOOT

So if your dealer doesnt have a clue make them do the legg work becuase from what i have heard the shaving down way doesnt work.

[jbaer5]

Dealer says never to fill-up with the engine idling...says it will go away. Noticed stuttering afterwards. Very bummed b/c I had an awesome Mazda3 sedan w/ no problems in 50K miles...

[BuckDich]

I got one on the first day I took it out, with about 30 miles on it.

The reason they told me was because I pushed the clutch in 10 times without doing anything. The reason it thought that was because I missed a shift and the shifter cable that connects to the shift linkage came loose, keeping me stuck in 1st gear. Had to get towed back to the dealership. Sucked, especially since it was my first night out with it.

[elderlycoffee]

I have 2180 miles and I still haven't gotten it.

[Garcia y Vega]

2100 miles CEL just came on, took it to dealer and they fixed. Had to replace the variable swirl shutter valve, I guess there was a tsb on it already.

[knowledge007]

I got one on the first day I took it out, with about 30 miles on it.

The reason they told me was because I pushed the clutch in 10 times without doing anything. The reason it thought that was because I missed a shift and the shifter cable that connects to the shift linkage came loose, keeping me stuck in 1st gear. Had to get towed back to the dealership. Sucked, especially since it was my first night out with it.


Umm....wow that really sucks...!!! (alright)

thats a keeper.

[Mike V]

CEL came on yesterday during a trip home from TX. I was on Hwy 65 in MO, shift to 4th to pass a car but the engine stumbled a few times and the CEL popped on. It runs fine in 1st, 2nd and 3rd but boosting in 4th and 5th doesn't happen. Ugh. This is when it sucks to have the dealer 80 miles away.

Edit: Forgot to mention this is at 5600 miles.

[Rainman]

CEL came on yesterday during a trip home from TX. I was on Hwy 65 in MO, shift to 4th to pass a car but the engine stumbled a few times and the CEL popped on. It runs fine in 1st, 2nd and 3rd but boosting in 4th and 5th doesn't happen. Ugh. This is when it sucks to have the dealer 80 miles away.

Edit: Forgot to mention this is at 5600 miles.

Check your hoses for a boost leak. While this may be the generic CEL that many of us have experience, this also sounds a bit like a boost leak. If you get lucky it may save you a trip to the dealer.

R

[Mike V]

Check your hoses for a boost leak. While this may be the generic CEL that many of us have experience, this also sounds a bit like a boost leak. If you get lucky it may save you a trip to the dealer.

R

The CEL came on after driving in rain for 7 hours. I drove it 7.5 hours back to TX yesterday and all is fine. Weird. I'll still take it to the dealer when I get back to KC in a couple weeks so they can pull the code.

[JAVITATO]

Hi all!

Finally we have ordered the intake manifold device (DTC P2006) by providing the serial number of the piece that we found in this forum. They installed it and perfect. No more cels. Same thing in my friend´s car.

Thank you for all the information. Without that serial number, I think we still with the cel on...

For Spanish people, my dealer-shop is QUERDILER in Madrid. Now they perfectely know how to solve this problem.

[JAVITATO]

And for more info, I have just found it:

http://www.finishlineperformance.com/mazda3/docs/0059.pdf

[boost_me]

Build date 02/07 CEL first came on @ 65miles, dealer said it was the gas cap(BS) then @ 1600 miles after I got my MS CAI,dealer said it was an EVAC code?!?! after the flash, car ran like a beast!! Now @ 2300 miles its @ the bodyshop :( see u in 2weeks :(