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altspace
01-29-2007, 09:15 AM
http://i1.tinypic.com/2z7nc7k.jpg
Best Car has published this illustration of what the S2000 could become after the death of the current model next year.
I had heard previous rumors about the S2000 being replaced by a 4 seater car.
This one would still be a 2 seater with a compact convertible hard top similar to the new Miata. And the design would have more of a retro vibe.
So I guess, nobody really knows anything about what's coming after the S2000.
2 seater, 4 seater, retro or not....
RicesP5
01-29-2007, 09:22 AM
kinda sexy it be
seanmcsean
01-29-2007, 09:36 AM
I like the current one a lot better. It is more simplistic and aggressive looking. this one is a tad on the bubbly side.
mikeyb
01-29-2007, 12:50 PM
It looks like the last MR2.
Nextruss
01-29-2007, 12:51 PM
there also used to be talk of a lower model, the s1000. any word on if they scrapped that idea?
JCell
01-29-2007, 12:52 PM
boooo!
the s2k looks so badass right now, this is going in a complete different direction
B1GHAM
01-29-2007, 12:53 PM
ugh leave retro to the car companies that actually have a retro past.
the last thing I want to see is a honda trying to do a throw back to 50s-60s styling. I love the current generation s2000, they should just go from there!
mikeyb
01-29-2007, 01:16 PM
Honda should put the 3.5L from the Acura RL into the next S2000. A Honda Roadster with 300hp!
Rogue
01-29-2007, 01:16 PM
ugh leave retro to the car companies that actually have a retro past.
they do have a retro past
<TABLE borderColor=#cccccc cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width="100%" border=1><TBODY><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD>Model</TD><TD>Gen</TD><TD>Years</TD><TD>Weight</TD><TD>Price</TD><TD>Trim</TD><TD>HP</TD><TD>Engine</TD></TR><TR><TD class=pageheader2>S360</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1962 </TD><TD>
</TD><TD>Prototype
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>33 @ 9,000rpm
</TD><TD>356cc
</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=8>http://thisoldhonda.org/pictures/s360.jpg This was a predecessor to Honda?s first true production-ready, prototype auto, which made its public debut at the 1962 Tokyo Motor Show. Powered by an all new, DOHC, water-cooled, in-line 4 cylinder engine with four carburetors, it produced 33 horsepower from 356cc at an unheard of 9,000 rpm. The car also featured a steel body, a five speed manual transmission, and for an automobile, a very unusual chain final drive utilizing aluminum swing arms which served double duty as chain cases, and also acted as trailing arms for independent rear suspension. The S360 never actually went into production because of conflicts with the contemporary Japanese Government?s size and displacement rules, and restrictive tax laws. </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD>Model</TD><TD>Gen</TD><TD>Years</TD><TD>Weight</TD><TD>Price</TD><TD>Trim</TD><TD>HP</TD><TD>Engine</TD></TR><TR><TD class=pageheader2>S500</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1963 - 1964 </TD><TD>
</TD><TD>$1,275
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>44 @ 8,000rpm
</TD><TD>492cc
</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=8>http://thisoldhonda.org/pictures/s500.gif The S500 followed the T360 into production in October of 1963, earning itself the title of the first production Honda car. Initially introduced with a 492cc engine, the specifications read like those from a Formula 1 race car; double overhead camshafts, four carburetors, a needle roller bearing crankshaft, and a 9,500 rpm redline. The car produced 44 horsepower at 8,000 rpm from its later, production displacement of 531cc, weighed approximately 1,500 pounds, and could achieve a top speed of 80 miles per hour. A four speed transmission (with synchromesh on the top three gears) was utilized. Final drive was by oil bath chains to the rear wheels. Four wheel independent suspension was achieved using torsion bars in the front, and diagonally attaching coil-over-shock strut units to the rear of each chain case. Brand new, it sold for the equivalent of $1,275. A fiberglass hardtop was offered as an optional accessory. There were 1,363 S500s produced between October 1963 and September 1964 (136 in 1963, and 1,227 in 1964), when it was supplanted by the larger-engined S600. </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD>Model</TD><TD>Gen</TD><TD>Years</TD><TD>Weight</TD><TD>Price</TD><TD>Trim</TD><TD>HP</TD><TD>Engine</TD></TR><TR><TD class=pageheader2>S600</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1964 - 1966 </TD><TD>1576 conv, 1609 coupe
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>Std, SM
</TD><TD>57 @ 8,500rpm
</TD><TD>606cc
</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=8>http://thisoldhonda.org/pictures/res_s60065_1_s600_65_brian.jpg The S600, launched in March of 1964, was the first Honda car to be offered in two versions; a convertible almost identical to its S500 sibling, and a fastback coupe, introduced in March of 1965. Styling would remain pretty much the same, with the most noteworthy changes coming to the front grille, bumper, and headlights. For this model, the engine capacity was increased to 606 cc. The engine produced 57 hp at 8,500 rpm and had a top speed of 90 mph. With the convertible weighing in at 1576 pounds, the extra sheet metal of the coupe only added 33 pounds to the overall weight. The S600 was the first "mass marketed" Honda car. First offered with right hand steering only, it soon became available in left hand steering so as to be appealing to the export market. (There were a few pre-production S500s manufactured with left hand steering, two or three even being shown in some early sales brochures, but all production S500s were right hand drive.) Both the S600 roadster and coupe were available in standard trim and a special, upgraded package called the SM600 which included, among other items, special paint colors, exclusive badging, a standard radio and speaker, a special antenna in the passenger side sun visor, standard reversing lights, a standard cigarette lighter, a standard heater, better cushioned seats, and a detachable seat track for quick removal of the passenger seat. Production of the S600 was much greater than that of the S500. In fact, of the three production engine sizes for the sports cars, the S600 had the highest figures. Honda built 3,912 roadsters in 1964, with production climbing to 7,261 convertibles and 1,519 coupes in 1965. Production dropped off in 1966 (as they were shifting to the S800) with only 111 roadsters and 281 coupes, giving tallies of 11,284 convertibles and 1,800 coupes for the 3 year span. </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD>Model</TD><TD>Gen</TD><TD>Years</TD><TD>Weight</TD><TD>Price</TD><TD>Trim</TD><TD>HP</TD><TD>Engine</TD></TR><TR><TD class=pageheader2>S800</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1966 - 1970 </TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>Std, SM
</TD><TD>70 @ 8,000rpm
</TD><TD>791cc
</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=8>http://thisoldhonda.org/pictures/res_s800_1_s800_brian.jpg The S800 was introduced to the world at the 1965 Tokyo Motor Show, and offered for sale in 1966. For this displacement increase, there would be some significant styling changes to both the front and rear of the car, while again being available in either roadster or coupe form. The early S800 would also be sold in standard and "SM" trim levels. The displacement was increased to 791cc which resulted in 70 hp at 8000 rpm. The S800 reached 100 mph and still boasted 35 mpg. The first 752 convertibles and 242 coupes continued the chain rear drive and independent rear suspension of its predecessors. For the next 604 roadsters and 69 coupes, Honda replaced the rear chain / suspension configuration with a more conventional live rear axle located by four radius rods and a panhard rod, while retaining four wheel drum brakes. Thereafter, front disk brakes replaced the four-wheel drum setup, while continuing the live rear axle for the remainder of the production run. The next significant change came in 1968 with the introduction of the S800M version. Aimed at the American market, Honda made changes to include flush door handles, side marker lights, dual circuit brakes, varied taillight configurations to suit different markets, safety glass, leaner carburetion, and more. (They went so far as to show a "USA Model" in the parts catalogues and owner's manuals, but no S800s, or for that matter any S series cars, were ever officially imported into the US for retail distribution.) All the changes were in vain, however, as the high revving engine produced too many hydrocarbons. New safety and emissions regulations were being introduced and the S800 did not measure up. Without the support of the American market, Honda ceased production of the S800 in May 1970. A total of 11,536 S800s were produced between 1966 and 1970. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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B1GHAM
01-29-2007, 01:19 PM
wow...
me = (ohsnap!) (owned)
(I still stand by the fact that the sketch is ugly and should be scrapped though)
mikeyb
01-29-2007, 01:21 PM
Rogue you beat me to it!
altspace
01-29-2007, 01:22 PM
33HP @ 9,000rpm. Dayum!
mikeyb
01-29-2007, 01:23 PM
33HP @ 9,000rpm. Dayum!
LOL!!!! I would hate to redline a 33hp engine all day long.
Rogue
01-29-2007, 06:20 PM
(I still stand by the fact that the sketch is ugly and should be scrapped though)I do agree with that part. I love the current S2000.
Scott
01-29-2007, 06:25 PM
It's only one of many ideas of what the next S2000 MIGHT look like. It's by no means an official production plan.
With that said, I'm a big fan of the '00-'03 S2000. They is the sexiest!
mazpro
01-29-2007, 06:26 PM
not good, current one is very sporty, that sketch is too retro looking.
ZoomZoomH
01-29-2007, 06:27 PM
i can see the 'retroing' (notably the round headlights) in that new s2k sketch.
if i was an 'old school' S-series enthusiast I'd love it, but i doubt there are too many of those around these neck of the woods
Scott
01-29-2007, 06:31 PM
I'd love an S800...but that sketch does not remind me of one.
BadKarma
01-29-2007, 10:19 PM
Oooo, that's not such a good looking concept. I'd have to agree with the others, the current generation of S2000 is excellent....
altspace
01-31-2007, 08:28 AM
Will Honda release a S2000 R-Type?
Sources over at V-Tec.net indicate that the S2000 might go out of production in 2008 in style with a R-Type derivative. Originally conceived in 2004 the R-Type would have more horsepower and less weight for added punch and align more effectively with the Mazdaspeed Miata.
Inside sources indicate the original specs from the 2004 proposal are:
-target of 100kg weight reduction
-balanced engine internals (Type R treatment)
-Type R exclusive interior
-air conditioning becomes a factory option
-SRS air bag becomes a factory option
-sound deadening material deleted
-front tire: 205/55R16 to 205/45R17 (implemented on AP2)
-rear tire: 225/50R16 to 245/40R17 (implemented on AP2)
-Type R exclusive suspension tuning
-Type R exclusive uprated brakes
-Type R exclusive body color(s)
-spare tire deleted
-mechanical LSD
-power soft top deleted
-lightweight carbon hard top
-audio becomes factory option
If we see this derivative at all, it will have to be sooner rather than later due to the phasing out of the model in March of 2008. But the biggest question really should be, does Honda really need a halo car?
that concept is hideous. And given Honda's track record since 2000, I woudn't doubt they'll ruin the s2000 too. I used to be such a huge Honda fan, but they've ruined the accord, Civic, got rid of my precious Prelude Line all together and there doesn't seem to be any hope in sight. Althoughh I've seen concepts of the new accord sedan that might have hope.
Roywhitep5
01-31-2007, 07:35 PM
i thought honda wasnt going to make a direct replacment for the s2k. i heard about a coupe with SH-AWD and a v6
Notorious
02-12-2007, 11:40 AM
I'm not really feeling this new 4 seater concept.
altspace
03-19-2007, 06:42 AM
More concepts.
http://i15.tinypic.com/4cm5csz.jpg
http://i19.tinypic.com/33m4xvt.jpg
mikeyb
03-19-2007, 09:10 AM
^^Folding hardtop! Nice!
AznXstazy
03-22-2007, 10:28 AM
for some reason reminds me of a chysler... they need to let the s2k be and dont touch a thing. i think its perfect as is. could use a folding hardtop though =)
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