Custom Performance Engineering's front mount intercooler kit

[www.cp-e.com]

Our SPEED6 test bed with instrumentation attached.

http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/535/644/138536.jpg



When we started designing our front mount intercooler, we wanted to accomplish several objectives. First and foremost, we wanted to outperform the stock intercooler core in terms of overall cooling efficiency for a cooler air charge. Second, we wanted our intercooler to have a low pressure drop. Finally, we wanted to create a kit that was not susceptible to heat soak. The following is a small excerpt from our full intercooler validation paper which we will post in its entirety once we beguin taking pre-orders for the kit.

We've done a lot of testing on the stock core to find out exactly where its weaknesses are, and we wanted a benchmark for our core. Our electrical engineer took the week to come up with a datalogging box to record the pressure loss and temperature drop across both the stock and CPE intercooler cores. We had temperature a pressure probes at the turbocharger outlet and just before the throttle inlet.

http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/535/644/122967.jpg

http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/535/644/122966.jpg

Here's a shot of the stock core at idle using our Fluke thermal imager. Notice how the stock core distributes heat across the core:

http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/535/644/129140.jpg

We've come to find that the stock core does a good job at cooling down the air charge, but this thermal efficiency comes at a great cost, namely pressure loss. And since our K04 turbo is already working overtime, we really want all the generated boost to make it to the engine.

Designing intercoolers is not a straightforward task as there is a fine balance between pressure loss and cooling efficiency. As the pressure loss increases, cooling capacity generally increases as well. This is because as the working fluid contacts the walls of the intercooler passageways it creates drag which saps energy from the air. This drag results in an overall pressure loss across the intercooler core, but this wall contact is also where all the heat transfer takes place. So really, you can't have one without the other. The fine balance comes into play when you want to design a core that has a low pressure loss, but also cools the air charge effectively. This is the game we've been playing.

Like I said before, the stock intercooler does a good job at cooling the air charge, and we foud out why. Typically, intercooler designers will allow a certain pressure drop along the core, and is on the order of 1-2psi at most. We found a whopping 3.5psi pressure loss, so when everyone is pumping 17psi through the engine, the turbo is actually pumping over 20psi.

We also found that the stock intercooler makes a great heat sink for the engine (pissed) . Because the intercooler is made of aluminum, and we all know that heat rises, the hot engine sends most of its heat straight to the intercooler. We used our Fluke thermal imager to demonstrate this fact. You can see the scale on the right hand side of the picture indicates that the intercooler is the hottest part under the hood AT IDLE:

http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/535/644/129138.jpg

In other words, bolting on a bigger top mount intercooler may increase the overall cooling capacity, but everytime you come to a stop at a stoplight, the core will soak up all the heat in the engine bay and will take time to cool back off. This is far from ideal if you like toying with Camaros and Mustangs at stop lights. Compare this with our core at idle:

http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/535/644/129139.jpg

So we know a front mount is going to heat up less at idle since it isn't bolted to a hot engine. What about cooling efficiency? After some tweaking, we've gotten our core to outperform the stock core by as much as 10%. If you're looking for real world numbers, the highest tmperature drop across the core that we could manage with the stock core was about 75°F. We managed a 90°F drop with our core. We felt this is pretty substantial considering that we accomplished this with 1/3 THE PRESSURE LOSS COMPARED TO STOCK. In other words, the guys running stock top mount intercoolers are pumping about 2.5psi thruogh the turbo that they can't use, and they're running about 15°F hotter than we are. So how did we increase the cooling capacity with less pressure loss compared to the stock unit? How about more fresh air! One benefit of a front mount intercooler is that you're getting a HUGE volume of fresh, cool air. More than the stock mount could ever recieve through its restrictive hood ducting.

We're almost ready to release the kit. And for the people who are going to whine about taking so long, we're truly sorry. The last thing we wanted to do was throw a kit together that performed worse than the stock intercooler. So is it really better than the stock core, or are people just following the, "Bigger is always better" adage? This is why we took the time to take the appropriate measurements. You know when you buy our kit that you're getting a throuroughly engineered intercooler kit that puts the stock core to shame, and will handle up to 450hp.

Finally, I have a feeling we're going to get flack for not posting any dyno numbers, and here's why. The purpose of an intercooler is to produce a cold air charge, which typically results in more power. But the efficiency of the core is dependent upon the airflow across it. We know the stock core is restricted by the hood ducting, so comparing two top mount intercoolers will have the same airflow. It makes sense that a bigger core will have more cooling capacity and make more power. But we don't have any airflow restrictions with a front mount. We can put a fan in front of it and dyno the car, but what does that mean? We may make more power than the stock unit, or we may not be able to simulate the airflow across the core at highway speeds. Do we increase the boost because our core has a lower pressure drop, for an apples to apples comparison? There are too many variables involved to get any usable data from a dyno run. So, we took a more direct route at determining the effectiveness of our core by taking direct measurements. We could just appease people by just keep increasing the airflow across the core until we make more power than the stock core, but that's not what everyone is here for, and that's not something CPE would do just to move more units.

I'll be on and off the boards all day, so if you have burning questions, feel free to post them up. Thanks for everyones patience!!

[Kansei]

nice work, I like reading about the research going into the intercooler kit!

[www.cp-e.com]

nice work, I like reading about the research going into the intercooler kit!


Thanks Kansei!! (drinks)


Jordan

[skylinemonster]

Wonderful job CP-E. I have become more and more impressed with your products. The level of professionalism taken and your direction is truly hard to come by. This intercooler is excellent news for the Mazdaspeed 6 world and is much needed based on your research, which I find to be quite credible. I am one who is not easily impressed and all I can say is gosh I wish I worked with these OCD perfectionists because that is exactly how I am. :) You sold me on this kit. I currently have your battery kit and just purchased your CAI from josh last thursday and waiting for that. I live in michigan and it is mazda planet over hear. There are many 6's and 3's. I have always been fully against decals but would not mind at all branding cp-e on my vehicle. Are you guys in the sponsorship business yet? I am not looking for a discount although that would be nice :) but more importantly educating the world on a quality product and company is what this is all about.

[www.cp-e.com]

Wonderful job CP-E. I have become more and more impressed with your products. The level of professionalism taken and your direction is truly hard to come by. This intercooler is excellent news for the Mazdaspeed 6 world and is much needed based on your research, which I find to be quite credible. I am one who is not easily impressed and all I can say is gosh I wish I worked with these OCD perfectionists because that is exactly how I am. :) You sold me on this kit. I currently have your battery kit and just purchased your CAI from josh last thursday and waiting for that. I live in michigan and it is mazda planet over hear. There are many 6's and 3's. I have always been fully against decals but would not mind at all branding cp-e on my vehicle. Are you guys in the sponsorship business yet? I am not looking for a discount although that would be nice :) but more importantly educating the world on a quality product and company is what this is all about.

(alright)

I can't begin to tell you how excited I am to post the full validation for the intercooler (this was just a summary!). I think it will really illustrate exactly how capable both the CPE and stock intercoolers are under real world conditions. We spent a lot of time just testing and collecting numbers, so the paper is the culmination of all our hard work (well, maybe the intercooler itself is, hah). And in the process we learned a lot about the turbo/intercooler combination on this car.

Thanks so much for the compliments too! We've learned a lot from just being car enthusiasts ourselves and dealing with aftermarket companies from your perspective. We were always so frustrated when trying to pick parts for our cars because they rarely had any documentation or technical information. I mean, how hard is it to just get a dyno chart for a product?? That's why you'll always see dyno charts, or some form of validation with our products so you know you're buying a thoroughly engineered product. And we don't doctor our numbers, ever. If something doesn't make power, we won't sell it.

We should be starting FMIC pre-orders any day now, so keep your eye open for the full writeup. And thanks again for the compliments!

Jordan

[Kansei]

Wish a company had been straightforward about the tech and research like this for the Protege community. you guys make me want to get a new Mazda, just after I spent 4 grand turboing my Protege haha.

[CitizenPro]

This is great news, nice job (thumb) I really liked what i read, straight forward and pretty damn honest.

[skylinemonster]

(alright)

I can't begin to tell you how excited I am to post the full validation for the intercooler (this was just a summary!). I think it will really illustrate exactly how capable both the CPE and stock intercoolers are under real world conditions. We spent a lot of time just testing and collecting numbers, so the paper is the culmination of all our hard work (well, maybe the intercooler itself is, hah). And in the process we learned a lot about the turbo/intercooler combination on this car.

Thanks so much for the compliments too! We've learned a lot from just being car enthusiasts ourselves and dealing with aftermarket companies from your perspective. We were always so frustrated when trying to pick parts for our cars because they rarely had any documentation or technical information. I mean, how hard is it to just get a dyno chart for a product?? That's why you'll always see dyno charts, or some form of validation with our products so you know you're buying a thoroughly engineered product. And we don't doctor our numbers, ever. If something doesn't make power, we won't sell it.

We should be starting FMIC pre-orders any day now, so keep your eye open for the full writeup. And thanks again for the compliments!

Jordan

quick question jordan, i dont know if you would be able to check on this for me but could you guys please give me a call back regarding my CAI order? i have called twice and spoke to a female secretary and she said she would relay the message. i am your customer from michigan. she should have my info. thanks.

[StuttersC]

Wish a company had been straightforward about the tech and research like this for the Protege community. you guys make me want to get a new Mazda, just after I spent 4 grand turboing my Protege haha.

There was one for the Protege community.

And there is still one for the Protege community.

[StuttersC]

This is cool that CP-E actually took the time write a post on this board about the intercooler.

Good work guys.

[Hate]

I've been patiently waiting for this. My wife's gonna be pissed!

[Rawyzf]

I've been patiently waiting for this. My wife's gonna be pissed!

LOL! I am in the same boat.

[Bigg Tim]

Got any pics of the engine area with the FMIC installed so we can see the pipes?

[www.cp-e.com]

Got any pics of the engine area with the FMIC installed so we can see the pipes?


I've been asked by the cp-e execs not to post pictures of the intercooler layout. We're not trying to be pretentious, we just put a lot of thought and hard work into our intercooler layout and we're trying to protect our design from people who may try to copy. When we start taking orders, we'll make a big post with the intercooler validation, pricing, tons of pictures, and availability details. :)


Jordan

[Bigg Tim]

fair enough :)

[spike blue]

man jordan you are making me really sad!!! really i mean it!! Now i want to trade my cx-7 for the ms6 even though i love my baby LOL!!!i just hope my fellow members in the cx-7 community start to buy CAIS from you!!!

[www.cp-e.com]

man jordan you are making me really sad!!! really i mean it!! Now i want to trade my cx-7 for the ms6 even though i love my baby LOL!!!i just hope my fellow members in the cx-7 community start to buy CAIS from you!!!


Hah! So sorry spike, I wish we could were making these upgrades for your car too (sad2)

I don't know if you saw our post in the CX7 section, but we're looking to re-dyno our cold air kit. Hopefully when we dyno a FWD CX7, we'll get some more consistent dyno runs!


Jordan

[justa4banger]

Can i assume a MS3 Version will be shortly following this MS6 version?

[dread]

Can i assume a MS3 Version will be shortly following this MS6 version?
I hope so. MS3 ftw(dance) (dance)

[www.cp-e.com]

Can i assume a MS3 Version will be shortly following this MS6 version?


Yup, the MS3 is the next vehicle we're going to be working on :)


Jordan

[MUSOM]

So, if purchased, I can expect the CPE FMIC to do the following three things:?

1. Lots more cooler air (approximately 15 deg F) by avoiding hood resrictions.
2. Avoid engine heat soakup at idle by not being an engine mount.
3. Increase efficiency of turbo by decreasing pressure drop.

I guess the only question I have is how much pressure drop? Originally it was said that there was a 3.5 psi pressure drop from the stock IC. And the FMIC showed a 1/3 less pressure drop. This should calculate out to a little more than 1 psi. Am I correct in saying that the FMIC will give me 1 psi previously restricted by the stock IC?

[www.cp-e.com]

So, if purchased, I can expect the CPE FMIC to do the following three things:?

1. Lots more cooler air (approximately 15 deg F) by avoiding hood resrictions.
2. Avoid engine heat soakup at idle by not being an engine mount.
3. Increase efficiency of turbo by decreasing pressure drop.

I guess the only question I have is how much pressure drop? Originally it was said that there was a 3.5 psi pressure drop from the stock IC. And the FMIC showed a 1/3 less pressure drop. This should calculate out to a little more than 1 psi. Am I correct in saying that the FMIC will give me 1 psi previously restricted by the stock IC?


You are 100% right-on with all three of your points. We're actually waiting to release a full validation of our intercooler which addresses the pressure loss, but I don't think anyone at cp-e is going to get tweaked by my posting one graph. If they do, I'm blaming it on you! (lol2)

So, here's a graph of two WOT runs, one with the stock top mount, and another using our core.

http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/535/644/142585.jpg

You'll notice that the stock intercooler loses nearly 4psi at peak boost, whereas ours loses about a pound and a half. So, disregard the better efficiency of our intercooler for a moment. If you bolt on our FMIC kit, you'll get nearly 2.5lbs of boost for free. That amounts to about 20-30hp without even considering the added cooling.


Jordan

[TX Speed 6]

(nailbyt) CAN'T WAIT!! not to mention a front mount would look sexy as hell!!! (headbang)

[www.cp-e.com]

(nailbyt) CAN'T WAIT!! not to mention a front mount would look sexy as hell!!! (headbang)


We got the intercooler cores in last week, and Anthony is working on fixturing the core itself today. So hopefully we'll have some good news for everybody soon. We're dying to get this product out, and we sincerely apologize for the delays. We just want to make sure that we get this thing right the first trime around! (burnout)


Jordan

[MUSOM]

No complaints from this guy. I am anxious to read the full validation. I'm certain it will further convince me of the inevitable.....(which I may be living the single life after this). HAHA. CPE planning on releasing the piggyback and the intercooler at the same time? Sounds convenient, huh? Why don't you just take ALL MY DAMN TAX RETURN MONEY.....!!!!!(no) (no) HAHA!

[justa4banger]

Damn it man , i can barely keep up with one turbo car at the house, now that i added the MS3 your forcing me to spend more money than i want to. I hate you :D

KEEP IT UP. Need a MS3 test baby? :D

[MS6 Alan]

Damn it man , i can barely keep up with one turbo car at the house, now that i added the MS3 your forcing me to spend more money than i want to. I hate you :D

KEEP IT UP. Need a MS3 test baby? :D

I didn't think you were gonna do anything to your MS3?
Guess I won't be pulling on you anytime soon :D

[1fastMS6]

would this FMIC work with your current CAI?

[www.cp-e.com]

Damn it man , i can barely keep up with one turbo car at the house, now that i added the MS3 your forcing me to spend more money than i want to. I hate you :D

KEEP IT UP. Need a MS3 test baby? :D


Thanks!! Actually, the SPEED3 is our first shop vehicle, so this is the first time that we haven't had to beg and plead for someone to bring a particular car by our shop. It's a nice change for us :D

However, we do need someone with a SPEED3 to verify the fittment of our new turbo back exhaust system. I put a thread in the SPEED3 forum, but unfortunately they need to be local to us, so that seriously narrows our selection pool. So if you're ever in the MD. area, give us a call sometime.


would this FMIC work with your current CAI?


Actually, the FMIC requires a cold air kit of some kind, and the cp-e XCel CAI will work just fine. The stock airbox is just too big to let the pipes pass through the engine bay, and CAI kits really free up a lot of space.


Jordan

[Blake]

great news, looks fantastic.

[www.cp-e.com]

great news, looks fantastic.


Thanks Blake (rockon)


Jordan

[spike blue]

man i hate you i will soon trade my cx-7 for the ms3 for a good deal LOL!! what you think?? Should i keep the cx-7 o get the ms3???DAMM

[www.cp-e.com]

man i hate you i will soon trade my cx-7 for the ms3 for a good deal LOL!! what you think?? Should i keep the cx-7 o get the ms3???DAMM


Spike, I'm not gonna to lie to you. The CX7 is a fun SUV/car, but the SPEED3 has the same engine with about 1000lbs less weight to carry around, and things are only going to get better. The SPEED3 mercilessly shreds the tires even in second gear when you stomp on it. But personally, I'd take a SPEED6 because I prefer AWD, and the SPEED6 is a pretty potent package despite the weight disadvantage. But that's just me... :D


Jordan

[spike blue]

well i will see what happens in the time i will get the cai and the bov from you and soon i will get other things!!!

[Prison]

So when is this coming out, im looking for a front mount kit. And how much you think its gonna run

[www.cp-e.com]

So when is this coming out, im looking for a front mount kit. And how much you think its gonna run


We're working on the fixtures today and we're trying to get them done as soon as we can. I've been giving tentative deadlines for ourselves in the past that we haven't been able to keep, so I can't tell you for sure when this project is going to be completed, but I hope it's done by next week. The price should come in somewhere around $1000.


Jordan

[peanutsparts]

Yup, the MS3 is the next vehicle we're going to be working on :)


Jordan


YEE!!!!(mj)

[justa4banger]

I didn't think you were gonna do anything to your MS3?
Guess I won't be pulling on you anytime soon :D


SHHH it was just a ploy for all you local guys lol. MS3 stay stock HAHAHAHA Well maybe, i do have a nice full coverage warranty. Besides the SVO just got the motor in it today, maybe by next month i'll get it out and show you what REAL 2.3 turbo can do..............With RWD. :D

I'm working feverishly to get the SVO going again. Hoping for 400+whp. But who knows. i knw i see meth injection and 30 PSI in my future (headbang)

[4DRHTRD]

SHHH it was just a ploy for all you local guys lol. MS3 stay stock HAHAHAHA Well maybe, i do have a nice full coverage warranty. Besides the SVO just got the motor in it today, maybe by next month i'll get it out and show you what REAL 2.3 turbo can do..............With RWD. :D

I'm working feverishly to get the SVO going again. Hoping for 400+whp. But who knows. i knw i see meth injection and 30 PSI in my future (headbang)
I've got 29 PSI now on the Mazda motor, just no fuel control...
:(
Come on Jordan, help me hit 400WHP!!!!

[Prison]

Is CP-E making a chip, or a tuning program? Does anyone know when its coming out?

[jdub260]

Is CP-E making a chip, or a tuning program? Does anyone know when its coming out?

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123659002

[www.cp-e.com]

Is CP-E making a chip, or a tuning program? Does anyone know when its coming out?


We're developing a piggyback. A piggyback intercept sensor signals and conditions them to change the car's operating parameters, which results in more power when tuned properly. This also results in no loss of driveability or reliability since the changes are entirely software based.

We have our first install scheduled on Tuesday, and we'll be dynoing the car shortly thereafter. We'll be tuning a stock SPEED6, and the tune will represent our base optimized map. In other words, if we make 20awhp on the dyno, then anyone else who hooks the piggyback up and uploads our map to an otherwise stock SPEED6 should make 20awhp. So this will be a great upgrade for people who require uncompromising performance upgrades since the car will drive just like a stocker, until you mash the throttle.

If things go well at the dyno then we'll start releasing the piggyback to the public. So if things go as planned figure two weeks before you can order one for yourlsef. Retail should be around $600 for the wire-in model.


Jordan

[Prison]

Well lets hope it put out alittle more then 20whp, ahahhahhaha

[Killer]

We're developing a piggyback. A piggyback intercept sensor signals and conditions them to change the car's operating parameters, which results in more power when tuned properly. This also results in no loss of driveability or reliability since the changes are entirely software based.

We have our first install scheduled on Tuesday, and we'll be dynoing the car shortly thereafter. We'll be tuning a stock SPEED6, and the tune will represent our base optimized map. In other words, if we make 20awhp on the dyno, then anyone else who hooks the piggyback up and uploads our map to an otherwise stock SPEED6 should make 20awhp. So this will be a great upgrade for people who require uncompromising performance upgrades since the car will drive just like a stocker, until you mash the throttle.

If things go well at the dyno then we'll start releasing the piggyback to the public. So if things go as planned figure two weeks before you can order one for yourlsef. Retail should be around $600 for the wire-in model.


Jordan(cabpatch)

[chriscecc914]

ive just come from the mustang community where i was making over 400rwhp out of a supercharged 02 Mustang GT. I traded it in for an MS6 and i am very mod hungry...hopefully you guys (CP-E) come out with a nice 400 awhp package that includes everything you need including tune. Cant wait!!

[buit9110]

can our tranny take 400awhp daily?

[www.cp-e.com]

Well lets hope it put out alittle more then 20whp, ahahhahhaha


I hope it does too, but the last thing I want to do is mislead people by promising bogus dyno numbers to people. We're pretty realistic about the gains people should expect when installing our products.

I should also clarify something. The tune we're shooting for on Tuesday is going to build on the stock tune, but still be considered "safe" for daily drivers. This means that boost will probably be bumped up slightly, but not so much that you risk overspinning the turbo in high altitude environments. The timing will likley remain stock, or darn close to it due to the added boost, and the spotty gas quality around the country. The best gains will likely come from the air/fuel ratio, and we can richen it up from about 10:1 towards redline to 11.5:1 towards redline.

Now, if our end-user has access to 91 octane or better, lives in a cold climate, and wants to push the envelope a little bit, then they have full access to all the changes we're making. Want to try adding more boost to see what it feels like? Go ahead, but be forewarned that making changes without fully understanding the consequences could cost you your engine. But the point is, if you'd like to improve on our base tune to take advantage of the resources around you, then feel free! Just be sure to post your dyno :D


ive just come from the mustang community where i was making over 400rwhp out of a supercharged 02 Mustang GT. I traded it in for an MS6 and i am very mod hungry...hopefully you guys (CP-E) come out with a nice 400 awhp package that includes everything you need including tune. Cant wait!!


Gosh I hope so too. Next on our radar after the piggyback and the intercooler is a turbo upgrade and a tubular exhaust manifold. The turbo should be good for over 500hp, so maybe one day you'll give the guy you sold your Mustang to a run for his money (thumb)


can our tranny take 400awhp daily?


It probably could, it would really all depend on how nice you are to it. If you plan on doing 6000rpm clutch dumps (for instance (wiggle) ) with 400whp, then the answer is no. But I haven't heard of anyone whose blown up their transmission, so I guess we haven't reahced its power limits quiet yet. But this car is still pretty new, and there aren't any real high horsepower MS6's on the street yet, but give it time and I'm sure we'll find out soon.


Jordan

[twinturbo6]

I love you CPE. Are you hiring? I make a mean coffee!(brownnose

[Prison]

So hows it looking so far guys? ;)

[chriscecc914]

cp-e, would you consider a group buy price for when this kit is released? Im sure a lot of MS6 guys are patiently waiting to buy your kit and a group buy price would be great!

[Prison]

Well yeah let us know, im down to get it cheaper, ahahahhahaha always down for that. Rnt we all

[www.cp-e.com]

I love you CPE. Are you hiring? I make a mean coffee!(brownnose


Hah, that depends on whether or not you require a salary ;)

If a few full throttle runs in a tuned, full bolt-on MS3 is payment enough, then you're hired!


So hows it looking so far guys? ;)



cp-e, would you consider a group buy price for when this kit is released? Im sure a lot of MS6 guys are patiently waiting to buy your kit and a group buy price would be great!



Well yeah let us know, im down to get it cheaper, ahahahhahaha always down for that. Rnt we all



Things are looking excellent! Our first beta tester, Jason, is on a business trip, but when he returns we're finally going to get some dyno numbers.

Another one of our testers has had success with our boost control, and he said that he was able to maintain 17psi to about 6200rpm. But that's when the throttle shuts down, so there isn't much you can do about it save for controlling the throttle (coming soon...).

We're basically ready to release the Standback to everybody, so we're putting together the html to get everything on our website. We're going to reconevene tomorrow and then I'll know more about when everyone can start purchasing our Standback.

As far as a group buy, I imagine that one of our vendors, either Street Unit or the RPM Store will offer some kind of group buy eventually. It'll probably come down to how fast we can produce these things. If we can make them fast enough, then I think we'll start offering incentives.

More to come! (drive)


Jordan

[chriscecc914]

This is the intercooler thread...

[acidbbg]

subscribed!

[MS6mike]

can't wait by the way jordan, my tranny blew! is gettting fix at the moment, all that track time came back and got me in the a$$ LOL well the EMS is working great, my car is in the shop waiting for the clucth flywheel comvo to arrive 1-4 gear got chewed up because the shift cables where not correctly set up. so well i guess il be ready for more track time once i get he FMIC and CATBACK my car should be ready this week hopefully i can get the priceless shippment from you guys soon!

[MS6mike]

double post sorry!(inout)

[acidbbg]

can't wait by the way jordan, my tranny blew! is gettting fix at the moment, all that track time came back and got me in the a$$ LOL well the EMS is working great, my car is in the shop waiting for the clucth flywheel comvo to arrive 1-4 gear got chewed up because the shift cables where not correctly set up. so well i guess il be ready for more track time once i get he FMIC and CATBACK my car should be ready this week hopefully i can get the priceless shippment from you guys soon!

*Sorry to go off topic*

How tranny blow? How many times you run to the track? How many miles on car? What kind of launches are you doing?

-C

[MS6mike]

well i went to the track like 30 times LOL but the problem was the shifter linkage where not set up correctly and was not geting 3rd in completly so it made 3rd have uneven wear, so i can't shift to 3rd now, i just found that was the problem today but before i tought it was a driving error or something!

[acidbbg]

Were you power shifting? If any gear was to have problem..i would suspect 2nd to be the issue.

G/L with your build up of the tranny..maybe want to look into cryo treating the tranny to hold big hp!

[MS6mike]

well my car has only 8000 miles so i put my car back to stock and warrantie did covered it soo i ordered the satge two plus http://www.therpmstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=91_158&products_id=448&osCsid=8538abf38849c59b06bd00da22769ada will see what i will do next!

[MS6mike]

jordan will the FMIC come with a BOV or you can use the stock one, or will i need to get one as well?

[baseballd2]

can we run vta now or is the maf still in the same location?

[MS6mike]

???

[ssinstaller]

can we run vta now or is the maf still in the same location?

The intercooler piping doesn't repace your intake, which the MAF is mounted to....

[Gandalf]

can we run vta now or is the maf still in the same location?

Its not the location of the MAF that makes VTA bad - its the fact the car is not tuned to do so. If the car ran MAP only then VTA might be possible.

[www.cp-e.com]

???


Sorry, Mike (hand)

The FMIC will come with a flange for an HKS BOV, so you'll need one to run this kit.

We also got the flanges in today (the last thing we were waiting on), so we're going to weld them on and get everything to the powder coater asap!


Jordan

[MS6mike]

grea news i guess il call josh and add that in the order!

[Prison]

So whens the big day???

[MS6mike]

updates please?

[pHeeL tHiZ ViBe]

yes i agree..i want a front mount so so so bad. i'm tired of my stock heat soaked wanna be an intercooler. lol.

[www.cp-e.com]

updates please?


No real updates to speak of yet. Josh called the powdercoater and they said they're running behind schedule since this is their busy season, and we gave them a lot to coat. Josh is out of town, but when he returns I'll ask him to call them again for another update. I know you're dying Mike, but we're almost there (spin)

Your car up and running?


Jordan

[Rican219]

Sorry, Mike (hand)

The FMIC will come with a flange for an HKS BOV, so you'll need one to run this kit.

We also got the flanges in today (the last thing we were waiting on), so we're going to weld them on and get everything to the powder coater asap!


Jordan

Damn so I have to do the C Clamp crap again?!!!!

I need to place an order regardless

[MS6mike]

No real updates to speak of yet. Josh called the powdercoater and they said they're running behind schedule since this is their busy season, and we gave them a lot to coat. Josh is out of town, but when he returns I'll ask him to call them again for another update. I know you're dying Mike, but we're almost there (spin)

Your car up and running?


Jordan



yeap! runing strong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(shocked) just hope i get my FMIC brfore i brake somthing else!!!!(ughdance)

[MUSOM]

(cricket) tick....tock....tick......tock

[MS6mike]

jordan please update me on the order!

[1BADSRT]

bump, my buddy ordered a fmic kit from you and lookin for some dates

[Killer]

bump, my buddy ordered a fmic kit from you and lookin for some dates

Well the aren't Kreskin...what is his name and when were the parts ordered?

[zobispo]

just a question would this FMIC work on cx7 cars?

[bova80]

no

[BoostedSpd6]

just a question would this FMIC work on cx7 cars?


hahaha that made me laugh a cx-7 with a front mount.. altough it would be cool to see someone do it..(lol2)