Will I be Ok If I Go Up In The Twisties Tonight??

[carter1551]

I just swapped my oil but thats a side note. I put a cone filter on the stock hosing for the intake sound. IT sounds meaner but Im slightly worried as people have told me the battery charge if the air temp sensor isnt hooked up. I dont have time to completely get a good clean install down and I just zip tied the bottoms of the filter to the bottom of the air box and left the air temp sensor dangling, will that be ok? Its only temporary but I dont want to take my car up to the hills tonight and the battey isnt charging. Someone please help.

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[mhrebin]

might throw a cel, but who knows. i would take the time to do the install 100%. or not do it at all. but thats just me.

i guess you need to ask yourself whether you worry about performance or the glamour factor ( diff sound from the intake).

imo.

[671_p5]

You'l be fine don't worry about it. Mine is unplugged and it feels totally different when I shift at high rpms mine is an auto though. Your battery will still charge but I dont think its charging correctly. My lights are getting dimmer and dimmer when my bass hits but its been unplugged for about 4 months.

[reynoldsrobbie]

It would only take like 5 minutes to do it right. Just drill a hole in the back metal part( the vertical metal piece that hooks up to the mass air flow) put a grommet in it and push that sensor inside of it.
It should only throw a CEL though, if you decide to run it tonight.

[carter1551]

lol i hope so, its not a permanent thing, but I had the hood up already changing the oil so I was curious how it would sound with just the cone filter. I heard the battery light will also go off, it hasnt done that to me.

any other opinions im definitely going to keep my stock airbox with me in case I do notice something odd while Im up there.

[carter1551]

It would only take like 5 minutes to do it right. Just drill a hole in the back metal part( the vertical metal piece that hooks up to the mass air flow) put a grommet in it and push that sensor inside of it.
It should only throw a CEL though, if you decide to run it tonight.

I drove it around a little bit just to test it out but no cels.

[reynoldsrobbie]

lol i hope so, its not a permanent thing, but I had the hood up already changing the oil so I was curious how it would sound with just the cone filter. I heard the battery light will also go off, it hasnt done that to me.

any other opinions im definitely going to keep my stock airbox with me in case I do notice something odd while Im up there.
Youll be fine! Even with a CEL I wouldnt worry, because you know why its being thrown.

[reynoldsrobbie]

I drove it around a little bit just to test it out but no cels.
It will take a while to throw it. If and when you throw it, you can unhook the battery and it will reset.

[carter1551]

Ok but no battery issues right? Idont wanna get stranded with me and my lady up there all alone, welll.... that woudnt be all bad, lol

[carter1551]

im so freaking paranoid, ok one more thing, how does the car know that its not hooked up right? cuz its still all connected but its just not sitting in the air box where it would be if it was left stock.

[Aricjm15]

the car will be fine. the battery light does come on if you unplug (and or cut the wires) to the Air temp sensor but the battery will still charge

[carter1551]

thanks guys, im bringing my stock air box just in case because theres no way ill be able to ignore a cell or battery light, itll just mess with my mind too much.

[thrasher]

OMG, get your head out of your ass and think about this for a second. It will just be reading the temperature of the ambient air instead of the air after the cone filter. This temperature will be a few degrees higher because it isn't flowing across the sensor.

Do you throw a CEL when you drive in the summer? No? Good. Everything is fine.

I know you're busy being lazy, but in all the time you've spent posting about this, why didn't you just add the piece of piping that has the air temp hole in it between the MAF and the cone? takes 1 minute.

[xelderx]

Actually, if you look directly below the MAF on the framerail that runs beside the airbox there is a perfect sized hole already drilled for the temp sensor to go in. Then it just reads air temp from inside the fender well. You might have to get the lower airbox out of the way though.

[i12drivemyMP5]

wait....extend the wires back thru the firewall & mount it in the AC duct & it'll ramp up the fuel & you'll get 20 more whp when it's on.......nah, nevermind

[xelderx]

Well, technically all it does is send a % of voltage to the ECU dependent on the air temp it is seeing and the ECU pulls timing accordingly. To my knowledge though it is only a small voltage range it operates through. That means that it has a close minimum and maximum voltage range the ECU reads. After a certain point hot or cold the ECU doesn't pull or add timing anymore.

[671_p5]

I drove it around a little bit just to test it out but no cels.
CEL will be thrown if you UNPLUG it not just leave it hanging =P

[thrasher]

Well, technically all it does is send a % of voltage to the ECU dependent on the air temp it is seeing and the ECU pulls timing accordingly. To my knowledge though it is only a small voltage range it operates through. That means that it has a close minimum and maximum voltage range the ECU reads. After a certain point hot or cold the ECU doesn't pull or add timing anymore.


I hope it adjusts for more than just a close range, the air temperature here in Ontario ranges from -30 to +40.

[carter1551]

OMG, get your head out of your ass and think about this for a second. It will just be reading the temperature of the ambient air instead of the air after the cone filter. This temperature will be a few degrees higher because it isn't flowing across the sensor.

Do you throw a CEL when you drive in the summer? No? Good. Everything is fine.

I know you're busy being lazy, but in all the time you've spent posting about this, why didn't you just add the piece of piping that has the air temp hole in it between the MAF and the cone? takes 1 minute.

ok you didnt have to be dick to me about it but good idea, i honestly didnt think of that, by the way ya know that hose that goes from the intake pipe to the engine? wtf purpose does that serve? cuz on the stock intake theres nothing like that

[671_p5]

ok you didnt have to be dick to me about it but good idea, i honestly didnt think of that, by the way ya know that hose that goes from the intake pipe to the engine? wtf purpose does that serve? cuz on the stock intake theres nothing like that
there is one on the stock piping I forgot where its located. It is the PCV. "P*** crankcase ventilation" I forgot what the p stands for. Basically keeps your crankcase cleaner and improves emissions

[thrasher]

ok you didnt have to be dick to me about it but good idea, i honestly didnt think of that, by the way ya know that hose that goes from the intake pipe to the engine? wtf purpose does that serve? cuz on the stock intake theres nothing like that

It's just basically a thermometer. It'll measure air temperature no matter where you stick it. I wasn't trying to be a dick, but you were concerned about nothing.


there is one on the stock piping I forgot where its located. It is the PCV. "P*** crankcase ventilation" I forgot what the p stands for. Basically keeps your crankcase cleaner and improves emissions

It's not the PCV. The PCV tube is attached to the PCV valve.

The tube he's referring to just allows the valve cover to breathe, no pressure build up etc. Goes from valve cover to intake tube behind the MAF.

[carter1551]

how come theres not one on the stock intake?

[thrasher]

how come theres not one on the stock intake?

yes there is. look on yours, it goes from the valve cover to the intake tube between the MAF & throttle body.

[P-Funk!]

No issue with the years of running it zip tied near (but out of sight) of the SRI.