XEDE Engine Management System Available Soon!

[Captain KRM P5]

if the XEDE is removed from the car it drives stock and is stock.

we tune for a 22psi spike and hold at 18psi in every gear 1-6 to redline with little to no falloff

[Willspeed]

I want this but I will definitely hold out for abit to ensure all the bugs our worked out.

[clos561]

if the XEDE is removed from the car it drives stock and is stock.

we tune for a 22psi spike and hold at 18psi in every gear 1-6 to redline with little to no falloff
could my motor blow?...

[Nutari]

I want this but I will definitely hold out for abit to ensure all the bugs our worked out.
What bugs?

I've been running it for several months now, installed another in my friends speed 3 and hes been running it for about a month now. No bugs.

[clos561]

i want to get one but i want pnp...i dont want to cut wires and shit...

[Captain KRM P5]

could my motor blow?...

i would not be running my customer's car that hard if i thought the motor was going to blow.

[clos561]

im gona wait til its pnp..but ive heard nothing but good has come from the xede...sept that guy that blew the motor on his ms6 but i think he raised the boost

[M3_Zoom]

im gona wait til its pnp..but ive heard nothing but good has come from the xede...sept that guy that blew the motor on his ms6 but i think he raised the boost


I agree with plug & play as well and it certainly makes things less detectable vice hard wiring...

[voiceKoil]

I agree with everyone, we need PnP. If our dealers see us hacking wires Im sure thats a certain death of any warranty of parts.

[mark404040]

http://www.***************/Cobb_AccessPORT_ECU_Programmer_MAZDASPEED_3_p/ap-maz-ms3.htm

how come nobody talk about this? is it useful too?

[Captain KRM P5]

http://www.***************/Cobb_AccessPORT_ECU_Programmer_MAZDASPEED_3_p/ap-maz-ms3.htm

how come nobody talk about this? is it useful too?

there have been a few topics about cobb, and comparison threads regarding cobb VS xede capabilities on this forum if you search for them. they are two totally different systems in terms of how far you can go with each one and what each system can or cannot do. cobb has not been released yet either which makes talk of it compared to an actual released, tested and dynoed product speculation and not fact.

[mark404040]

HI, Ken

Can you see the web? I can't. = ="

[M3_Zoom]

HI, Ken

Can you see the web? I can't. = ="

Hello Mark404040, you may not see it because we aren't suppose to list other websites etc. Just do a google seach for Cobb Tuning and search from there. The Access Port is a great piece. If it gets realeased anytime soon I'm sure someone will compare it to the Xede. Also I know allot of folks wan't the Xede, but they are waiting for them to release it with a Plug & Play harness. As of current you must splice into your harness. I can't see hacking into my harness. The dealer would cancel your warranty for sure if they caught that.

[Captain KRM P5]

Hello Mark404040, you may not see it because we aren't suppose to list other websites etc. Just do a google seach for Cobb Tuning and search from there. The Access Port is a great piece. If it gets realeased anytime soon I'm sure someone will compare it to the Xede. Also I know allot of folks wan't the Xede, but they are waiting for them to release it with a Plug & Play harness. As of current you must splice into your harness. I can't see hacking into my harness. The dealer would cancel your warranty for sure if they caught that.

well, you can list other websites, certain ones are blocked at the admins discretion (other forums, etc).

i know everyone wants plug and play. it is a top priority and its a time consuming one. i could pull a promised release for it out of my rear end but frankly that would be wrong of me to do, seeing as we do not have a timetable for it honestly other than "soon".

[clos561]

well, you can list other websites, certain ones are blocked at the admins discretion (other forums, etc).

i know everyone wants plug and play. it is a top priority and its a time consuming one. i could pull a promised release for it out of my rear end but frankly that would be wrong of me to do, seeing as we do not have a timetable for it honestly other than "soon".
i dont care...im waiting patiently jsut like most people are...we just anticipate the chance to use this mod...

[M3_Zoom]

well, you can list other websites, certain ones are blocked at the admins discretion (other forums, etc).

i know everyone wants plug and play. it is a top priority and its a time consuming one. i could pull a promised release for it out of my rear end but frankly that would be wrong of me to do, seeing as we do not have a timetable for it honestly other than "soon".

(cool) Thanks for the Website information. Also on the Plug & Play harness as you know, it's better not to release a date. That will certainly prevent the "you said on bla bla bla date that XYZ" etc. So soon is GREAT!

[maestro]

I am impatient, but bugging people only makes it take longer.

Samuel L Jackson, "Shit doesn't just happen. Shit takes time...."

[speed3shon]

i too am in line for PnP...

if i dont spend the g's on something else first.

damn... and i havent even picked up the car yet... signed the paperwork and test drove it today...

[SAVAGE70]

Hey fellow Speed3ers whats up? I know we all are excited for the PnP XEDE. I will get one for sure. I just hope they produce enuff of them to go around for all who r interested and we all get them on the first time they r released.

[Captain KRM P5]

timeframe for the Plug and Play is now officially set at 3 to 4 months we have all the parts on order from japan.

[SAVAGE70]

Hey Capt are u going to have a pre order list or do we have to wait till u start to sell them?

[Captain KRM P5]

if you want to make a "i got dibs" list thats a good start

[SAVAGE70]

Sounds good Ill start a new thread seeing who is interested in getting on the list

[maestro]

Quick question. Will PnP change the price? Time and effort to get parts, connectors, additional R&D, $$ etc....

[Captain KRM P5]

it will cost more but we plan to drop/adjust the XEDE price accordingly to compensate

[speed3shon]

because the "tentative" pricing on the accessport is $700

[Captain KRM P5]

because the "tentative" pricing on the accessport is $700

there are a few key things about the accessport VS xede that must be said.

- the XEDE has control over more vehicle functions from the get-go than the cobb accessport.
- the XEDE is user tunable, the cobb is not user tunable at the $700 price tag. the price of the Cobb to make it user tunable brings it near the price of the XEDE.
- the XEDE does not overwrite the stock ECU. a dealer scantool could see that the stock ECU had been written/unwritten to. a removable XEDE would be undetectable. an installed XEDE could not be detected by a dealer scantool either.
- even when user tunable the cobb accessport does not have the same range of ability as the XEDE does feature to feature.
- the XEDE is out and proven. the accessport is not.

this is not a slam or dis on the cobb stuff by any means. they do excellent subaru work and always have! simply put, mazda ECUs are traditionally hard if not impossible to crack. cobb promised a mazdaspeed miata solution and it never materialized either. i look forward to a cobb system on this car and the 6, but i will wait for the system to show itself and its abilties before i praise it wholeheartedly.

[SAVAGE70]

Hey Capt I heard that COBB AND CPE allows throttle control. How important is this feature? Will this feature allow more power and torque compared to the XEDE system?

[Captain KRM P5]

Hey Capt I heard that COBB AND CPE allows throttle control. How important is this feature? Will this feature allow more power and torque compared to the XEDE system?

CPE allows you to monitor throttle position but they cannot currently control it, though they plan to. I do not believe Cobb has that feature even on the drawing boards.

there may be room to play with when it comes to controlling throttle plate position. we have been able to maintain no boost falloff and near seamless acceleration all the way to redline on the mazdaspeed6 with the XEDE.

[maestro]

Thanks for the updates. After coil overs next month (hopefully) I realy want some more power to play with this summer, or end of summer by your schedule.

We can basicaly "set and forget" on the Xede correct?

[Captain KRM P5]

Thanks for the updates. After coil overs next month (hopefully) I realy want some more power to play with this summer, or end of summer by your schedule.

We can basicaly "set and forget" on the Xede correct?

yes it comes with a very good and streetable base map. for the best results when you do more mods you'll want to have it tuned or tune it with the XMAP software.

[Jeph]

So quick questions, how will the maps compensate for altitude, and climate changes?
Say the streetable map for a stock MS3 has been made at see level, where i am in SLC, you would/should run uber rich compared to sea level.
I only ask because my previous experience with a piggyback had this issue, and i don't want to be driving around with my laptop plugged in every week trying to iron out problems.

[BuckDich]

yes it comes with a very good and streetable base map. for the best results when you do more mods you'll want to have it tuned or tune it with the XMAP software.
Will it come with a map geared toward maximum fuel economy? I know, silly question with this car. If not, would it be possible with the XMAP software?

[Captain KRM P5]

Will it come with a map geared toward maximum fuel economy? I know, silly question with this car. If not, would it be possible with the XMAP software?

sure its possible, but you'd want to be careful not to pull out too much fuel and run the engine too lean. honestly the system is really geared towards making power, and you might find yourself putting your foot into it more with the added power. definetely not good for fuel economy :)


So quick questions, how will the maps compensate for altitude, and climate changes?
Say the streetable map for a stock MS3 has been made at see level, where i am in SLC, you would/should run uber rich compared to sea level.
I only ask because my previous experience with a piggyback had this issue, and i don't want to be driving around with my laptop plugged in every week trying to iron out problems.

the XEDE is an interceptor system, so the ECU's own correction factors will apply themselves.

[Equinox]

Woot, bought one, thanks BEGi/Ken. I wish it came with a free copy of Corky Bell's book, Maximum Boost

[Equinox]

I was wondering, with the XEDE system, and the fact it changes boost pressures; using the supplied settings it comes with, will I have any problems with the stock bypass valve, as far as leakage? The reason I ask is I'm trying to only get performance mods at this time, and only later when I start playing with the rice side of things, or boost more, will I change things like my bypass valve to an aftermarket bypass. Mind you the stock bypass will be on a Injen CAI, but I don't see that making a difference.

Sorry for posting twice in a row, although notice the time difference. :P

[Jeph]

I thought i read the stock bypass valve is good to aprrox 21 psi, the only reason people are changing it out is for the sound...

[Equinox]

that's what I figured, just got thrown off by online retailers claims of "replaces that cheap plastic bypass valve that's prone to boost leakage, and get this [super duper woosh cannon!]" ... you know... just to paraphrase XD

....wait here's the direct quote from a retailer, whom I won't name..

"...The HKS Super Sequential BOV kit replaces the factory plastic bypass valve which has been known to rupture under boost. The HKS blow-off valve is machined from billet aluminum and is polished for an attractive and high quality appearance under the hood. Not only is the HKS unit more attractive, it also is more robust, and will not leak under high boost conditions, thanks to its unique pull-type actuation..."

I guess if I read more closely I would have understood more, I understand now that I know what to look for.

This retailer was more down to Earth, and straight forward about the same thing.

"...Universal billet aluminum blow-off valve made by HKS. The BOV utilizes a dual valve system to ensure quick response and complete closure during idle..."

I <3 them.

[uncletime]

whats pricing going to look like for one?

[clos561]

i got my hks bov kit from mcp-e for 291 its cheaper now like 260 i think..im not too sure check there website...the kit is the best ..comes with everything you need so theres no need to shop aroudn for flanges and recirc fittings

[Equinox]

I don't see a point in buying it if there is no performance gain, at this time for me :) 260 $ better spent on motor mounts. It being the BOV.

[clos561]

I don't see a point in buying it if there is no performance gain, at this time for me :) 260 $ better spent on motor mounts. It being the BOV.
well if u get the piggy back ecu im sure boost wil be a problem...if it doesnt show right away eventually u will need to change the plactic BPV...figured id get this and cai seeing as they are the easiest mods other than shifter bushings and shit...xede spikes at 22 and holds at 18psi wouldnt that be a problem on the stock valve? i think it would be...(usa)

[Nutari]

well if u get the piggy back ecu im sure boost wil be a problem...if it doesnt show right away eventually u will need to change the plactic BPV...figured id get this and cai seeing as they are the easiest mods other than shifter bushings and shit...xede spikes at 22 and holds at 18psi wouldnt that be a problem on the stock valve? i think it would be...(usa)
the only XEDE-tuned car that spikes to 22 is our speed 6. The XEDE tune on the speed 3 only spikes to around 20~ and settles at 18.

[clos561]

the only XEDE-tuned car that spikes to 22 is our speed 6. The XEDE tune on the speed 3 only spikes to around 20~ and settles at 18.
o ok...would the stock bpv endure alot of stress at those psi levels?...causing the need for bov upgrade?

[Nutari]

o ok...would the stock bpv endure alot of stress at those psi levels?...causing the need for bov upgrade?
I've had the XEDE on almost since I bought the car (December) with no problems.

[palerider]

I've had the XEDE on almost since I bought the car (December) with no problems.

Have you done any tuning or are you still running the base map on your car? Also, do you guys have a map yet for CAI, or is the stock map the same thing?

[Nutari]

Have you done any tuning or are you still running the base map on your car? Also, do you guys have a map yet for CAI, or is the stock map the same thing?
I've said in a couple different threads that ive done tons of dyno tuning (30+ runs) I have a couple different maps. One that is a little too aggresive for higher altitudes (I went over the mountain and hit fuel cut several times)

Need to make a map to take advantage of the CAI.

Next step is to up boost/retard timing/add fuel.

[palerider]

I've said in a couple different threads that ive done tons of dyno tuning (30+ runs) I have a couple different maps. One that is a little too aggresive for higher altitudes (I went over the mountain and hit fuel cut several times)

Need to make a map to take advantage of the CAI.

Next step is to up boost/retard timing/add fuel.

I missed your tuning references. But thats good youve been messing around with it. I live in NC and spend alot of time in the VA mountains(1 hr north), to and from the inlaws. Mountain fuel cut might be a problem. lol. Do I order this thing from Protege or Begi? Or does it matter? Also, can I get a different map flashed at the time of purchase?

I noticed in the your "How-to" thread, that you said you spliced all the wires together and it looks factory(id love to see pictures). Would the dealer still obviously know this had been done? It seems like you dont care as much about that aspect, but what are your thoughts on this for those of us who do?

Im tired of waiting and I want to join the Xede club. Im almost to the point of pissing on my warranty, but I dont want to do it unless I have to.

[Equinox]

seems to be running okay on stock BPV right now, I'll let you guys know.

[Nutari]

I missed your tuning references. But thats good youve been messing around with it. I live in NC and spend alot of time in the VA mountains(1 hr north), to and from the inlaws. Mountain fuel cut might be a problem. lol. Do I order this thing from Protege or Begi? Or does it matter? Also, can I get a different map flashed at the time of purchase?

I noticed in the your "How-to" thread, that you said you spliced all the wires together and it looks factory(id love to see pictures). Would the dealer still obviously know this had been done? It seems like you dont care as much about that aspect, but what are your thoughts on this for those of us who do?

Im tired of waiting and I want to join the Xede club. Im almost to the point of pissing on my warranty, but I dont want to do it unless I have to.



Need to take pictures of the new setup.

I have a few new maps available. Still need to get a new one made to take full advantage of the CAI.

You would buy it through us.

http://mazda3online.web.aplus.net/product_info.php?cPath=281_22_160_259&products_id=715

Depends on where you hide the unit. The wiring all looks factory. They would just wonder what that box is. One of my customers/friend hides his in the battery box.

[Equinox]

Nutari I want a map using the CAI <3 Nutari lol

[Nutari]

Nutari I want a map using the CAI <3 Nutari lol
Paypal me $100 for 1 hour dyno time. :)

[nypest]

Ok! Read this whole thread Lots of great info on here as well as incredible knowledge floating around. I have a few humble questions (Nutari &Stephanie). Bought my car a few months ago and love it. The itch for more power came right away, and lead me to the MS CAI in fear for my factory warranty. I now see it becoming a crutch after reading all of the threads, and posts on all of the boards. Even though I have no issue's at all with CEL's and almost 2000 miles on it I am convinced that the MS is not engendered/tuned correctly to support future modifications(Xede/EMS units) Do you have any experience's tuning with this? If I have to dump my MS CAI to make the best of my LONG awaited TUNE solution well so be it. Also while i am not completely in the dark in knowledge. I may or may not trust myself in creating maps to burn to this unit. With the plethora of bold-on and more to come, will the maps be along the lines of something similar to stages of the car? Or am I able to buy the TMIC and have a map at the ready for my Xede to react.

Thanks for you time in advance

Tim

[JimmyMac]

Ok! Read this whole thread Lots of great info on here as well as incredible knowledge floating around. I have a few humble questions (Nutari &Stephanie). Bought my car a few months ago and love it. The itch for more power came right away, and lead me to the MS CAI in fear for my factory warranty. I now see it becoming a crutch after reading all of the threads, and posts on all of the boards. Even though I have no issue's at all with CEL's and almost 2000 miles on it I am convinced that the MS is not engendered/tuned correctly to support future modifications(Xede/EMS units) Do you have any experience's tuning with this? If I have to dump my MS CAI to make the best of my LONG awaited TUNE solution well so be it. Also while i am not completely in the dark in knowledge. I may or may not trust myself in creating maps to burn to this unit. With the plethora of bold-on and more to come, will the maps be along the lines of something similar to stages of the car? Or am I able to buy the TMIC and have a map at the ready for my Xede to react.

Thanks for you time in advance

Tim

I've had the XEDE since the beginning of the year and also run a CPe CAI and ETS TMIC with base map and no problems.

I just found a place to do Dyno runs. I figure once my test pipe and Corksport DP come in I will take it there. Any tips on tuning the XEDE Stephanie or Nutari? Or any way to get yall to help out some how?

[Captain KRM P5]

I've had the XEDE since the beginning of the year and also run a CPe CAI and ETS TMIC with base map and no problems.

I just found a place to do Dyno runs. I figure once my test pipe and Corksport DP come in I will take it there. Any tips on tuning the XEDE Stephanie or Nutari? Or any way to get yall to help out some how?

ask the owner/operator of the dyno if they have experience doing dyno tuning. the XMAP software is very easy to work with and they should be able to tune it to make the best numbers on your setup.

[nypest]

I've had the XEDE since the beginning of the year and also run a CPe CAI and ETS TMIC with base map and no problems.

I just found a place to do Dyno runs. I figure once my test pipe and Corksport DP come in I will take it there. Any tips on tuning the XEDE Stephanie or Nutari? Or any way to get yall to help out some how?

it would be very intresting to see the #'s ...Also i was concerned about the Mazda Speed CAI working with the XEDE because i hear its designed poorly

[M3_Zoom]

it would be very intresting to see the #'s ...Also i was concerned about the Mazda Speed CAI working with the XEDE because i hear its designed poorly

What's designed poorly, the Mazdaspeed CAI? I'm not sure where you received that information from, but so far all the currently available Cold Air Intakes are yeilding the same gains. Average is ~25HP & 25 - 30 ft/lbs of torque.

*Edit* Additionally the Mazdaspeed CAI is a little different in design but that's it. It's a two piece design vice one piece and the bottom where the filter is attached is different. Other brands curve up a little but numbers are numbers. Just my .02 cents.

[nypest]

What's designed poorly, the Mazdaspeed CAI? I'm not sure where you received that information from, but so far all the currently available Cold Air Intakes are yeilding the same gains. Average is ~25HP & 25 - 30 ft/lbs of torque.

*Edit* Additionally the Mazdaspeed CAI is a little different in design but that's it. It's a two piece design vice one piece and the bottom where the filter is attached is different. Other brands curve up a little but numbers are numbers. Just my .02 cents.

Of course my readings are prob just opinion at most, but I do read a lot about how the MS CAI isn't tuned correctly (I don’t know how much of that is agenda driven), and that it’s poorly designed. Don’t get me wrong Id love to keep it. But with a TUNE in mind I hear that the MS CAI will be a crutch. AS far as mapping is concerned with units like the Xede. With out havening to spend $$$$ on a custom tune... hope I make sense (screwy)

[nypest]

What's designed poorly, the Mazdaspeed CAI? I'm not sure where you received that information from, but so far all the currently available Cold Air Intakes are yeilding the same gains. Average is ~25HP & 25 - 30 ft/lbs of torque.

*Edit* Additionally the Mazdaspeed CAI is a little different in design but that's it. It's a two piece design vice one piece and the bottom where the filter is attached is different. Other brands curve up a little but numbers are numbers. Just my .02 cents.

Of course my readings are prob just opinion at most, but I do read a lot about how the MS CAI isn't tuned correctly (I don’t know how much of that is agenda driven), and that it’s poorly designed. Don’t get me wrong Id love to keep it. But with a TUNE in mind I hear that the MS CAI will be a crutch. AS far as mapping is concerned with units like the Xede. With out havening to spend $$$$ on a custom tune... hope I make sense (screwy)

[CTGrey02]

You'll be fine with a MS CAI on the car. Even with that the car still runs pretty damned rich on the stock tune from the dyno sheet's floating around. The concern the other parties were putting in place were for heavily modified vehicles where you want the fuel trim reading as close to stock as possible for tuning reasons. Tuning the vehicle for your after market performance parts is always a nice thing to do, but if the only mod your doing for a while is a MS CAI you'll be fine just putting it on and resetting the ECU.

[nypest]

You'll be fine with a MS CAI on the car. Even with that the car still runs pretty damned rich on the stock tune from the dyno sheet's floating around. The concern the other parties were putting in place were for heavily modified vehicles where you want the fuel trim reading as close to stock as possible for tuning reasons. Tuning the vehicle for your after market performance parts is always a nice thing to do, but if the only mod your doing for a while is a MS CAI you'll be fine just putting it on and resetting the ECU.


Thank you for the input. I may have missed what i was trying to say. I have the MS CAI love it , also a TMIC. Soon to have a test pipe, and ready to buy and XEDE. My concerns were in the tuning, and if the XEDE folks had the MS CIA in mind, and if the MS CAI would hinder the outcome of my set up WITH the XEDE considering the notations that "may" not be properly tuned. Caint wait to get the XEDE, just doing my research b4 i buy. Trtying to find out if im better off going back to the STOCK intake (yuck) or installing a different one that might complement the XEDE better......... hope im more lucid

[StephanieT]

I've had the XEDE since the beginning of the year and also run a CPe CAI and ETS TMIC with base map and no problems.

I just found a place to do Dyno runs. I figure once my test pipe and Corksport DP come in I will take it there. Any tips on tuning the XEDE Stephanie or Nutari? Or any way to get yall to help out some how?
Glad to hear there are no problems. When you get ready to go to the dyno, call me (during office hours) and we can arrange a contact person in case help is needed after hours.
Stephanie

[JimmyMac]

Still waiting on the "test" pipe and a BOV. Once all that stuff is in... I'll arrange a Dyno run/tune. I'll let ya know as soon as I have a date. So far everything is good. Just installed the CS downpipe a couple weeks ago. Went to Ohio and back (to NC). From sea level, thru the mountains, and back. And still NO problems or CEL. All is good. Just can't wait to get it tuned in... Oh.. and can't wait to get PnP as well. Even though I'm hard wired in. Would be nice to get the PnP installed.

[Haltech]

Still waiting on the "test" pipe and a BOV. Once all that stuff is in... I'll arrange a Dyno run/tune. I'll let ya know as soon as I have a date. So far everything is good. Just installed the CS downpipe a couple weeks ago. Went to Ohio and back (to NC). From sea level, thru the mountains, and back. And still NO problems or CEL. All is good. Just can't wait to get it tuned in... Oh.. and can't wait to get PnP as well. Even though I'm hard wired in. Would be nice to get the PnP installed.

jimmy, if you have an extra $300 to burn, i highly recommend getting a wideband 02 setup for the cockpit. Most of the dyno's have them but find a dyno that uses one that goes into the o2 sensor bung opposed to the exhaust pipe one. I only use dynojet dyno's

[JimmyMac]

I was gonna wait to get a test pipe so I could do the wideband install in the test pipe. Plus I'm trying to figure out where to install the gauge in the cockpit! hehe.. I'm kinda picky. I wish I could do a pillar install. But those damn air bags!! haha..

[funkyman]

Can`t the stock ECU be tuned nicely and i`m sure they can do it Germany or Norawy,those folks are pretty clued up about tuning and ECU programming and are far more ahead than us guys here in the states.You don`t really need an EXEDE or any piggy back if you know the stock ECU maps and beahaviour well.Look for European resources about tuninf the Mazda MPS.

[BSTD3]

Any updates as to when the Xede PNP will be available?

[desperado-c]

Can`t the stock ECU be tuned nicely and i`m sure they can do it Germany or Norawy,those folks are pretty clued up about tuning and ECU programming and are far more ahead than us guys here in the states.You don`t really need an EXEDE or any piggy back if you know the stock ECU maps and beahaviour well.Look for European resources about tuninf the Mazda MPS.

Doubt the Europeans have even done much on the MSP3 ECU, since the car is not a big seller there. Cobb, on the other hand, owns an MS3, has cracked the ECU, and says they'll have something in a couple of months.

[Aricjm15]

Doubt the Europeans have even done much on the MSP3 ECU, since the car is not a big seller there. Cobb, on the other hand, owns an MS3, has cracked the ECU, and says they'll have something in a couple of months.

Cobb said that last year

[desperado-c]

Cobb said that last year

Looks like they mean business to me:

http://www.cobbforums.com/forums/images/COBB_ms3.jpg

[Aricjm15]

Looks like they mean business to me:


because they were so eager to reply in this thread
http://www.cobbforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32887

and the thread from where you got that photo they made no mention of the work they had done with the access port

[Captain KRM P5]

Looks like they mean business to me:

http://www.cobbforums.com/forums/images/COBB_ms3.jpg

they did the same thing with the mazdaspeed miata and failed to crack that ECU a few years back as well.

[desperado-c]

they did the same thing with the mazdaspeed miata and failed to crack that ECU a few years back as well.

Maybe so, but see below for posts in a different thread than the one cited above by whoseawhatzit. The way I read these posts is either you all are right and they're lying, OR they have cracked the ECU, are working on other mods, and dealing with a number of complex tuning issues on a complex, "high resolution" ECU:

03-02-2007, 12:11 PM
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...As for the ECU cracking, no problems. Things are going very smoothly on that front. We're in and working through everything, so it's all well within the realm of possibility. ....

Thanks,
Trey @ COBB

04-18-2007, 02:09 PM
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...We're reflashing the ECU now and building the software tools, but tuning has been somewhat limited due to the fact we're also doing hard parts on our Speed3. ...After GT Live (end of April), I get to use it as my daily driver again while we refine the tuning!! Can't wait!

Cheers,
Trey @ COBB

[Captain KRM P5]

when i last spoke with cobb tech support they would not confirm for me that they had not only cracked the ECU but had been able to stick a reflash on it that actually held. not to mention the release date has been pushed back more often than not, as well as the MS6 system all but officially having been canned.

as i've said a million, well more like a zillion times, if and when they make it viable i'll support it 110%. mazda ECUs have been notoriously difficult to crack and to reflash and actually make the program stick by anything outside of dealer WDS systems. many companies arguably more experienced than Cobb have tried and failed, so between that bit of history and the lack of real enthusiasm on thier part since - even by your own posts above - April, you'll have to understand my skepticism.

this doesn't even address the possible shortcomings of ECU reflashes which have already been covered here and other places many times before.

[desperado-c]

when i last spoke with cobb tech support they would not confirm for me that they had not only cracked the ECU but had been able to stick a reflash on it that actually held. ....
this doesn't even address the possible shortcomings of ECU reflashes which have already been covered here and other places many times before.

Well, you're right. I can understand not wanting to provide a release date, but not their refusing to confirm whether they have been able to re-flash the ECU or not. Anyway, I 'm sorry I started a back-and-forth on Cobb's potential EMS release on a XEDE EMS release thread.