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mazdaspeed777

11-10-2006, 05:37 PM

Does the mazdaspeed racing beat rear sway bar have a larger diameter than the stock P5 rear sway bar?? Would this be an improvement if put on a P5??

SuperProtege5

11-10-2006, 06:50 PM

larger diameter: yes. improvement: I assume so but don't take my word for it

mazdaspeed777

11-10-2006, 07:33 PM

Also does anyone have this bar instald on there P5??

Kansei

11-10-2006, 07:46 PM

*raises hand* I have it. You'll want to get the clunk fix bracket pretty quickly though, it makes it ultra-awesome!

Oh and I have sedan endlinks for it. If you have any questions let me know.

mazdaspeed777

11-10-2006, 08:02 PM

*raises hand* I have it. You'll want to get the clunk fix bracket pretty quickly though, it makes it ultra-awesome!

Oh and I have sedan endlinks for it. If you have any questions let me know.

Did you notice a difference from stock to the racing beat?? Where would I get the clunk fix bracket?? and what endlinks do you have on yours??

Kansei

11-10-2006, 08:08 PM

mazdaspeed777

11-10-2006, 08:48 PM

I have OEM endlinks, but the ones from the MSP (same as other sedans).

As for the clunk fix bracket: http://www.autoxracing.com/component/option,com_virtuemart/page,shop.browse/category_id,3/Itemid,2/

prices are in canadian dollars. Oh and it won't work with the AWR sway bars, just the Racing Beat. The AWRs just have to deal with clunking.

$200 bucks for a bracket!!! Damn! Would the AWR endlinks fix that problem? what causes the clunking?? and you never answered me if it made a difference or not with the new bar??

Kansei

11-10-2006, 09:32 PM

$200 bucks for a bracket!!! Damn! Would the AWR endlinks fix that problem? what causes the clunking?? and you never answered me if it made a difference or not with the new bar??

Yeah it makes a difference, especially with the bracket. I know it sounds like a lot for the bracket but yeah it's reeeeally nice. The endlinks aren't what cause the clunk, so they won't fix it. I'm on OEM endlinks no problem, and no clunk. The clunk is caused by the position of the oem brackets that mount the bar to the chassis. They are way too close together, and they give the bar enough room that instead of rotating, it bends. It binds with the bushings in the brackets too and rubs through the red coating on the bar.. squeaking and clunking. It's impossible to keep it lubricated enough without taking off the brackets every couple weeks to lube.. who wants to do that? The clunk fix bracket has grease fittings on it so you can lube it with a grease gun no disassembly required.

mazdaspeed777

11-10-2006, 09:57 PM

Yeah it makes a difference, especially with the bracket. I know it sounds like a lot for the bracket but yeah it's reeeeally nice. The endlinks aren't what cause the clunk, so they won't fix it. I'm on OEM endlinks no problem, and no clunk. The clunk is caused by the position of the oem brackets that mount the bar to the chassis. They are way too close together, and they give the bar enough room that instead of rotating, it bends. It binds with the bushings in the brackets too and rubs through the red coating on the bar.. squeaking and clunking. It's impossible to keep it lubricated enough without taking off the brackets every couple weeks to lube.. who wants to do that? The clunk fix bracket has grease fittings on it so you can lube it with a grease gun no disassembly required.

So do you have the clunk fix bracket?? or does just having the OEM sedan endlinks fix the problem??

Kansei

11-10-2006, 10:48 PM

mazdaspeed777

11-11-2006, 04:20 AM

endlinks don't do anything to help or hurt the clunking problem from what I've seen. It's the brackets bolting it to the chassis that cause the problem. And yes, I do have the clunkfix bracket and it's the highest quality suspension piece I've ever touched with my own hands. It's awesome.

Do all aftermarket sway bars have the clunk problem or just this one??

Sorry for all the questions, might buy one soon so needed to know. Thanks for all the help.

Kansei

11-11-2006, 12:00 PM

Do all aftermarket sway bars have the clunk problem or just this one??

Sorry for all the questions, might buy one soon so needed to know. Thanks for all the help.

Sadly all will have the issue because it's an issue with where the brackets for rear sway bars are located.

mazdaspeed777

11-11-2006, 02:31 PM

Sadly all will have the issue because it's an issue with where the brackets for rear sway bars are located.

How become the stock P5 rear sway bar doesn't have the clunk problem then??

Kansei

11-11-2006, 03:09 PM

because it's tiiiiny.

gimpo2

11-11-2006, 03:17 PM

if you wanna feel a big difference get the Front Swaybar off an MP3 (25mm) or an MSP (26mm). I got the MP3 front sway and it makes the front feel waaay more planted. Its a big bitch putting in. I put in the AWR 19mm rear sway 2 or 3 years back and i really didn't notice the rear too much.

justanotheradikt

11-11-2006, 03:32 PM

damn so the progress and awr have the clunk?

that sucks

mazdaspeed777

11-13-2006, 01:12 PM

Does any one know what the stock size is of the stock P5 sway bars?? And gimpo2 do you have any clunking problems with the mp3 sway bar??

FrolessWonder

11-13-2006, 01:40 PM

stock p5 is either 16mm or 17mm, i can't remeber of the top of my head qhich it is.

mazdaspeed777

11-13-2006, 02:22 PM

stock p5 is either 16mm or 17mm, i can't remeber of the top of my head qhich it is.

Cool, thats close enough to give me an idea. Thanks for the info. But still doese anyone have any clunking problems with mp3 sway bar on the P5??

Kansei

11-13-2006, 02:27 PM

Cool, thats close enough to give me an idea. Thanks for the info. But still doese anyone have any clunking problems with mp3 sway bar on the P5??

*raises hand again* MSP and MP3 rear sway bars are one and the same.

03promaz

11-13-2006, 02:39 PM

I have OEM endlinks, but the ones from the MSP (same as other sedans).

As for the clunk fix bracket: http://www.autoxracing.com/component/option,com_virtuemart/page,shop.browse/category_id,3/Itemid,2/

prices are in canadian dollars. Oh and it won't work with the AWR sway bars, just the Racing Beat. The AWRs just have to deal with clunking.

You say prices are in Canadian dollars what does that come to in USD

gimpo2

11-13-2006, 02:52 PM

Cool, thats close enough to give me an idea. Thanks for the info. But still doese anyone have any clunking problems with mp3 sway bar on the P5??

I'm talking about the MP3 Front Sway Bar, I got ground controls 2 years and those are pretty loud. So any clunks and I have I associate with those. Who gives a shit if it clunks.

Kansei

11-13-2006, 03:19 PM

You say prices are in Canadian dollars what does that come to in USD

200CAD ~180USD

Kansei

11-13-2006, 03:20 PM

I'm talking about the MP3 Front Sway Bar, I got ground controls 2 years and those are pretty loud. So any clunks and I have I associate with those. Who gives a shit if it clunks.

Because the rear sway bar clunk is just a symptom of a larger problem, which is that the sway bar bends before it rotates.

i12drivemyMP5

11-13-2006, 03:50 PM

Does the mazdaspeed racing beat rear sway bar have a larger diameter than the stock P5 rear sway bar?? Would this be an improvement if put on a P5??IIRC......oem P5 = 17mm, mazdaspeed or RB = 19mm, AWRs = 19 & 21mm, Progress = 21.5 aka 22mm

FrolessWonder

11-13-2006, 03:54 PM

the racing beat/MSP is 20 mm, so yes it does give an improvement.