Nintendo Wii Anyone?

[RallyeRedSi]

Wii is coming out the 19, anyone excited i can't wait for Zelda

here are pics of me playing with one at gamestop that i took with my camera phone

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[GreyMan]

i'd like to try it

[Demoniam]

We want Wii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jred321]

did your gamestop have any pre-order spots open still? i'm thinking of picking one of these up, sounds like it'll bring the fun back to gaming

[gimpo2]

i'm gonna get it but prolly not at launch

[meinp5]

The wii is pretty awesome...i wanted to try to get 1 at launch and sell it on ebay and use any profit I make to buy another one.

[Protege5Gurly]

My husband wants on .. the Target by us is getting 210 units for launch. I think if we go early morning before they open for the "ticket line" we should be ok. They hand out tickets at 7:30 am

[B1GHAM]

My husband wants on .. the Target by us is getting 210 units for launch. I think if we go early morning before they open for the "ticket line" we should be ok. They hand out tickets at 7:30 am

lol!! granted, xbox360 launch didnt have as many, but anyone who wasnt in line by 1130 the night BEFORE didnt get one. and there were people pulling the "oh Ill go about a half hour before they open and still get one" then BITCHING to the management about how its unfair they cant get one, blah blah blah. It only made matters worse, that after spending about 12 hours with the same gorup of people you become friends... so we started heckling the people who were complaining about there not being enough.

Had a fun fun time hangin out in the cold rainy weather.

as far as the wii, its starting to grow on me now. I will probably get one, just not @ launch

[gimpo2]

What if the Wii launch turns out like the Gamecube launch? It was incredibly easy to just stroll into the store and pick up whatever you want. I haven't really seen any Wii commercials. Anyone have a clue how the Wii launch will be?

[jred321]

What if the Wii launch turns out like the Gamecube launch? It was incredibly easy to just stroll into the store and pick up whatever you want? I haven't really seen any Wii commercials. Any have a clue how the Wii launch will be?i'm hoping it's more like that. i'm thinking maybe the launch people will be there and it might be a little hard to get, but i don't think they'll be in short supply so the next shipment or 2 you'll be able to just walk in and get one. hopefully

oh yea, i remember reading an article with nintendo's NA head. they decided that, rather than spending their money on advertising like sony, they would spend it on beefing up production so they have units available. makes sense to me

[Donas64]

I'm a huge nintendo fan so I'll probably trade in my gamecube and Get one down the road here soon. Probably not at launch though. My cube has supplied me the HUNDREDS of hours of gaming fun. From Smash Bros all, to windwaker all the way to the AWESOME Resident Evil 4.

I think the Wii will be a fun system to own that will bring hours of awesome multiplayer fun with friends.

[FrigginGLI]

Freeze yourself if you can't wait.

[Captain KRM P5]

if i can get one pre-ordered here online tonight i'll be a happy clam

[redrims]

Freeze yourself if you can't wait.

lol...


Maybe its just me, but the Wii looks stupid to me and almost Atari like. Sorry if I offend Nintendo lovers. What does it offer? What is the functionality of it? I have a joystick in one hand and a universal size remote in the other hand, with only 3 buttons, that I can swing around like I'm chasing flies.

Please enlighten me...

[jred321]

the games are fun and simple, that's the appeal. nothing to do with the system itself. if i had an atari that worked, i'd still play it because the games are still fun. with the ps3 and xbox it seems like the capabilities of the system are the most important thing, almost like they forgot that the reason people buy gaming systems is to have fun. sure the ps3 and 360 have way better hardware, but all of the games will be way more complicated and take forever to play, so it really doesn't appeal to the "normal" person, only to gamers

[Donas64]

lol...


Maybe its just me, but the Wii looks stupid to me and almost Atari like. Sorry if I offend Nintendo lovers. What does it offer? What is the functionality of it? I have a joystick in one hand and a universal size remote in the other hand, with only 3 buttons, that I can swing around like I'm chasing flies.

Please enlighten me...

I'll sidestep the thinly veiled jabs at "Nintendo Lovers" whatever that means and address your question.

While Sony and Microsoft have decided to go all out for the "Graphics Whores" I mean.......sophisticated audience that loves to brag about how many polyframes per giga second their system can push and how the PS3 and the 360 have a direct feed to the International spacestation and can remotely control it, Nintendo has alway been about the essence of gaming and they are trying to bring games to the masses. I own a PS2, a Gamecube and a PC all of which I game on and I can say without a doubt that the cube has brought me more single and multiplayer fun than either of my other too. The Wii is supposed to appeal to everyone. Not just hardcore gamers but everyone from your Sister, to your mom or dad and your grandpa. They are trying to create a deeper level of interactivity than just pointing at something at shooting it.

Will they be successful. Only time will tell. I hope they are but I myself am talking a little bit of a wait and see approach. Since the Wii is backwards compatible with my gamecube, I'll probably pick one up down the road and since it still accepts standard gamecube controllers, I don't even have to pick up new pads. I think it's an interesting experiment and if nothing else I applaud Nintendo for trying something different. In an age of gaming where they already have "Gears of War 5" in the works now with even more blood and gore cuz that makes it cool, I'm glad there is a gaming company that caters to people who just want to be able to have a good time and play fun games with great gameplay regardless off graphics or gore or sex.

But what do I care, All I want is a black DS Lite and Advance wars DS! Is that too much to ask?

[gimpo2]

But what do I care, All I want is a black DS Lite and Advance wars DS! Is that too much to ask?

hahahahahahah you're still craving the DS?

[RallyeRedSi]

i got the black DS its cool, screen is a lot better than the original one

[Kansei]

weee wii! I can't wait. Nintendo is awesome about making fun consoles :)

[Captain KRM P5]

lol...


Maybe its just me, but the Wii looks stupid to me and almost Atari like. Sorry if I offend Nintendo lovers. What does it offer? What is the functionality of it? I have a joystick in one hand and a universal size remote in the other hand, with only 3 buttons, that I can swing around like I'm chasing flies.

Please enlighten me...

actually it has seven buttons including the trigger and both the joy stick and wand have full range of motion functionality.

most of the software developers out there consider Wii to be the next big thing. EA has thrown full support to it, which they didn't even do for Dreamcast which was arguably a much more viable platform. After the details were made public, Sony scrapped thier own PS3 controller, removed vibration/forcefeedback from it and added in "six axis" motion to it. So for all the criticism of being able to wave your controller around, the idea seems to have caught on industry wide. Wired magazine named it the number one entertainment device of its kind this year.

i'm not saying the system is perfect, far from it, but the quality of games most people have come to expect from nintendo, the price of the hardware, cheaper software (yeah i know, its only $10 cheaper than most but still) the virtual console having full access to all the major nes, snes, sega genesis, turbo grafx, n64, etc games for download is pretty nice. little details like that add to the overall package.

I haven't jumped on the bandwagon 110% yet because i think its one of those things where you just have to try it to really understand or appreciate it. From first glance its going to raise eyebrows, but I think its going to garner alot more attention over time than most expect.

[Donas64]

hahahahahahah you're still craving the DS?

You betcha!

I want a black DS Lite and a copy of Advance Wars for Christmas. Thats #1 on my wishlist. Heck if My P5 didn't need front pads and rotors, i'd leave work right now and pick one up!

[505zoom]

7 days, 9 hours... FREEZE ME!!!

[505zoom]

What games are you folks getting for launch?

ZTP, Red Steel, Super Swing Golf, Excite Truck, and THDJ is my list, in that order. Probably will only get the first couple on saturday night, then snag the rest up later in the week.

Zelda though... omg... 70+ hours of play and takes 45 minutes to ride from one end of hyrule to the other on horseback... WOOT!

[gimpo2]

Zelda though... omg... 70+ hours of play and takes 45 minutes to ride from one end of hyrule to the other on horseback... WOOT!

can you imagine all of the back tracking you're gonna have to do!! @_@

[505zoom]

Well it can't be any worse than WW was for that, and I freaking love that game so I have a pretty good feeling about the new one.

Everything I have read, even from people who initially HATED the controller when the first pics of it were released, has been more than positive about the controls. I think it will revolutionize FPS console games more than anyone else predicts at this point, and the developers are all loving the big N again for that very reason.

Now if only Rare was still on board... perfect dark with that controller would ruin the rest of my life, lol.

[Captain KRM P5]

right now zelda and red steel are my two launch games.

as for rare, i could care less. they have been a bust for microsoft. PDZero was merely average and Kameo was nothing to be proud of.

[EcLites]

only rare game i liked was donkey knog.

[redrims]

the games are fun and simple, that's the appeal. nothing to do with the system itself....

Um...ok. One of my friends still play is N64 on a regular basis. He rarely touches his PS2 on the Xbox. He also plans on getting the Wii. I guess I'm too abnormal to understand. But man, he is a Zelda freak!

[Captain KRM P5]

Um...ok. One of my friends still play is N64 on a regular basis. He rarely touches his PS2 on the Xbox. He also plans on getting the Wii. I guess I'm too abnormal to understand. But man, he is a Zelda freak!

its hard not to be a zelda freak ;) they are some consistently great games. i just find that as i get older i have less and less time to devote to playing a 40hr+ adventure. zelda is the kind of game where i make an exception.

i play my n64 quite abit too. my ps2 doesn't see much attention but my 360 does. theres just so many good multiplayer games on n64 to ignore even over time.

[505zoom]

right now zelda and red steel are my two launch games.

Righty-o cap'n. Good call.


as for rare, i could care less. they have been a bust for microsoft. PDZero was merely average and Kameo was nothing to be proud of.

Both of those games were in development for so long on nintendo so I am not surprised that they weren't that great... I have never enjoyed a "ported" game. Now think back to perfect dark 1, goldeneye, jet force gemini, conkers... and THEN tell me that you could care less that rare won't be making wii games. :)

[Donas64]

Goldeneye and Perfect Dark ate up soooooooooo much of my friends and I's time in high-school, it's a miracle we graduated. CURSE YOU ODDJOB!!!!

Also Jet force Gemini was an awesome (but hard game!!!) Man that game took a lot of skill!

[Captain KRM P5]

Righty-o cap'n. Good call.



Both of those games were in development for so long on nintendo so I am not surprised that they weren't that great... I have never enjoyed a "ported" game. Now think back to perfect dark 1, goldeneye, jet force gemini, conkers... and THEN tell me that you could care less that rare won't be making wii games. :)

jet force gemini was not that great, lets be truly honest with ourselves. goldeneye and perfect dark? yes. conker was great, and the xbox version was a great port. however, much of the FPS team at Rare is gone and a good deal of thier people went to work for various nintendo divisions. Timesplitters series of shooters - yeah, thats where your Goldeneye team is now. so yes I will still say Rare will not be missed.

Denis Dyack and the Eternal Darkness/Too Human team, now those guys will be missed.

[gimpo2]

Eternal Darkness was the shit! I kicked so much ass in Goldeneye. The only game that I unlocked everything. I didn't really like the timesplitters single player. Nothing beat the feeling you had when you played Goldeneye. Its like you were really there creeping around and capping fools in the bathroom.

I really wanna see what sort of FPS stuff comes out for the Wii. The one hurdle is recentering the Wiimote. With a mouse you just lift up the mouse and place it where you want. With the Wii it might take some learning to get it to feel natural.

[505zoom]

I really wanna see what sort of FPS stuff comes out for the Wii. The one hurdle is recentering the Wiimote. With a mouse you just lift up the mouse and place it where you want. With the Wii it might take some learning to get it to feel natural.

Not following... I understand how you need to recenter with a mouse on a pad, but with the wiimote, wouldn't you just point back at the center of the screen to recenter?

[gimpo2]

Not following... I understand how you need to recenter with a mouse on a pad, but with the wiimote, wouldn't you just point back at the center of the screen to recenter?
if you point back at the center of the screen the aim will follow it right back. What if you want to look 180 degrees behind you, you'd have to point the Wiimote behind yourself. Doing a 360 would require you to spin around. You'd need a swivel office chair and tvs all around you. You'd have to make the recentering function a button on the controller and it would take a little bit to get used to.

[505zoom]

if you point back at the center of the screen the aim will follow it right back. What if you want to look 180 degrees behind you, you'd have to point the Wiimote behind yourself. Doing a 360 would require you to spin around. You'd need a swivel office chair and tvs all around you. You'd have to make the recentering function a button on the controller and it would take a little bit to get used to.

Ahh yes I gotcha now... from what I have seen in the vids, it appears that you handle that like the last few zelda games and press the shield button (which appears to be one of the triggers on the nunchuck). Haven't heard anyone mention that being a problem, although apparently the pickup/roll function with the A-button isn't perfect. ONE week wii will ALL see!!! :)

[RallyeRedSi]

only rare game i liked was donkey knog.


what about Goldeneye

[RallyeRedSi]

its hard not to be a zelda freak ;) they are some consistently great games. i just find that as i get older i have less and less time to devote to playing a 40hr+ adventure. zelda is the kind of game where i make an exception.

i play my n64 quite abit too. my ps2 doesn't see much attention but my 360 does. theres just so many good multiplayer games on n64 to ignore even over time.


when i use to come hom from work at 3am i would play windwaker till 6am then go to bed, my friends and i stil play blitz, no mercy and on occasion wcw/nwo revenge for 64

[Donas64]

Windwaker was such a beautiful game. The artwork and graphical style were just amazing. I regret not finishing majoras mask though. I still have it. That game was hard as HECK!

[gimpo2]

Windwaker was cool, but as soon as it got to the part where you had to sail around all over the fucking place and collect all the pieces of the map for the Triforce pieces I stopped playing. Sailing pissed me off and the thought of all the backtracking killed it for me. Get all the pieces of the map and then use the map to find all the pieces of the Triforce. All on a fucking raft that goes 3 MPH!!!

[Donas64]

Windwaker was cool, but as soon as it got to the part where you had to sail around all over the fucking place and collect all the pieces of the map for the Triforce pieces I stopped playing. Sailing pissed me off and the thought of all the backtracking killed it for me. Get all the pieces of the map and then use the map to find all the pieces of the Triforce. All on a fucking raft that goes 3 MPH!!!

That part was a tad annoying but it didn't bother me so much. Finishing the game was well worth it.

[Kansei]

Who cares if the games are fun? And plus, the controller is a paradigm shift in and of itself.

What are you going to suggest, paying 400 for an Xbox 360 .. when it plays most of the same games I can already play on my PC? :P

[Kansei]

I suggest none

yeah I'll let my roommate buy the wii and see how it is first. I love my DS and my PS2 but I don't play either at all. I haven't touched my DS in months, haven't played PS2 in probably about a year.. I own 15 DS games and probably 40 PS2 games.. I suck at impulse buys >_<

[vcinsanity1523]

i am looking very forward to playing the WII just to see if the controller is as good as everybody is speculating it to be. As far as games nintendo always has the most fun games which is why I play my gamecube a hell of a lot more than my PS2 and i loved my ps2 bought it launch day.

[Donas64]

The fact is gaming is getting way to redundant/boring, same thing over and over and holding a controller in my hand waving it around like a maniac doesn’t change the fact that your still trying to do the same thing as before
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[Insert 20 pointless reasons as to why its worth buying this system]

Actually, you don't need to wave it around like a maniac at all unless the game requires it. Subtle movements are all thats needed. Now truth be told I want to see how the whole experiment pans out, but I'm far more interested in playing Wii games and experiencing them than I am in playing Any game on the Xbox 360 or PS3 which will just be shinier, prettier version of the same stuff. Not to say thats bad but I think the Wii will have it's own niche and audience and it will be very successful. Plus many people will pick it up as a second system since its (relativly) cheap. Nintendo is content to let Microsoft and Sony slug it out on the front lines while it turns a decent profit appealing to gamers of all ages and skill levels just looking to have some fun.
Once again kudos to them for blazing the trail and taking a risk and being different. It might flame out horribly or it might be a raging success. Only time will tell.

[sanblaster]

I'm purchasing the wii because of the price, Zelda, and reverse compatibility.

[Kansei]

I'm purchasing the wii because of the price, Zelda, and reverse compatibility.

hells yeah. Zelda + trauma center + being able to play tons of classic games = ftw! the new control-schema is an added bonus if it turns out to be awesome.

[seanmcsean]

I'm interested to see how sports games end up working on this system, especially baseball. I'm a diehard PS2 guy and will most likely buy a ps3 eventually, unless the wii really impresses me.

[Donas64]

one things for sure. The PS3 is going to have some RIDICULOUSLY good looking games. I can't even being to imagine GTA on the PS3. Microsoft was slick in getting GTA for the 360. Then there's that cool looking game for the 360 thats in development where you play a futuristic cop. That looks pretty slick.

[Donas64]

Well many people play games to relax or unwind, having to wave around a controller is not my idea of what I want to do when I play games. I understand games dont have to be played that way but thats the whole selling point of the system "A new way to play" (jerkit). Plus I dont know about you but I dont have many places big enough for 4 people to stand and wave around a controller, and Id love to see how the controller will hold up to young kids waving it around like banshees I hope they made it durable.The main market for gamers is 20-30's and the majority in that age range want the best most advanced graphics and tech they can get. Im not sure if others feel fine spending money on a processor that was designed years ago that is just being overclocked and no ability for next gen media but that sounds like a real waste of money to me. Actually in any sense or situation its a waste of money to be buying outdated tech but people will still buy. Nintendo's really throwing the dice here and IMO there gonna crap out.

Well its obviousl that you don't care for the Wii. Good for you. Buy whatever you want its your money.

I will say this though: A game does not have to be flashy or gory or "cutting edge" to be a great game. Gameplay still does count for something.

Oh and I'm not too concerned as to the level of graphics the Wii can pump out.

It any of the titles can look as good or better than Resident Evil 4, that will be fine by me.

That game looked AMAZING running on "outdated" hardware and it actually was fun to boot.

Also you can still use the standard Gamecube controller with some Wii games.

[Kooldino]

Wow, FBI14 acting negatively? Whodathunk?!?!?!

[Kooldino]

i'm hoping it's more like that. i'm thinking maybe the launch people will be there and it might be a little hard to get, but i don't think they'll be in short supply so the next shipment or 2 you'll be able to just walk in and get one. hopefully

oh yea, i remember reading an article with nintendo's NA head. they decided that, rather than spending their money on advertising like sony, they would spend it on beefing up production so they have units available. makes sense to me

Actually, Nintendo is about to launch a $200m ad campaign for the Wii.

[jred321]

Actually, Nintendo is about to launch a $200m ad campaign for the Wii.i saw that. the difference, though, is the timing. sony has been promoting for a while, where nintendo has been relatively docile in the promoting area. after the release sony will switch its money more towards actually making units. nintendo focused on actually making units, and now that they have the units, they need to sell them. it's like sony and nintendo took opposite approaches. nintendo was build then advertise, sony was advertise then build

[Kooldino]

i saw that. the difference, though, is the timing. sony has been promoting for a while, where nintendo has been relatively docile in the promoting area. after the release sony will switch its money more towards actually making units. nintendo focused on actually making units, and now that they have the units, they need to sell them. it's like sony and nintendo took opposite approaches. nintendo was build then advertise, sony was advertise then build

If that's the case, Nintendo definitely has the better strategy.

[Donas64]

If that's the case, Nintendo definitely has the better strategy.

Not necesarilly because while Nintendo does have incredibly strong name recognition, Sony perhaps has the ultimate Hype engine. No one hypes up a product better than sony.

Remember the "Emotion Engine" with the PS2?

Now aren't they claiming that the PS3 will cure Alzheimers?

Shortage of systems or not, Sony knows that its die-hard fans will wait till kingdom come for their PS3 if need be...unless they balk at the price (like I did) and say forget it and get a readily available XBOX 360 or Wii.

If there was ever a chance for sony to shoot themselves in the foot, its wit hthe PS3. Between the price and shortage of supply, they might be a little overconfident especially since Microsoft has a 6million unit sold advantage over them.

[GreyMan]

i saw that. the difference, though, is the timing. sony has been promoting for a while, where nintendo has been relatively docile in the promoting area. after the release sony will switch its money more towards actually making units. nintendo focused on actually making units, and now that they have the units, they need to sell them. it's like sony and nintendo took opposite approaches. nintendo was build then advertise, sony was advertise then build

I agree, IMO tho, the wii is already relatively out there now without the marketing. i'm not a gamer and i'm not up to par with the lastest and greatest but I knew about it over a year ago.

[GreyMan]

Shortage of systems or not, Sony knows that its die-hard fans will wait till kingdom come for their PS3 if need be...unless they balk at the price (like I did) and say forget it and get a readily available XBOX 360 or Wii.

Sony has already dropped the price $100 in Japan.

[JDM-P5]

Wii ftw.
But I also wanta PS3.

[505zoom]

Well many people play games to relax or unwind, having to wave around a controller is not my idea of what I want to do when I play games.

That's cool man, you aren't the only one that is set in your ways and doesn't think that a new way to play games would be cool. Push buttons forever.


I understand games dont have to be played that way but thats the whole selling point of the system "A new way to play" (jerkit).

The point is that the player doesn't have to be limited by merely pushing buttons. If the game is better for a standard controller, it will be played on a standard controller. Nobody is trying to force "waving a controller around" on anyone, and just because the new system can do that, doesn't mean that they have to make the game tedious or tiring in the process.


Plus I dont know about you but I dont have many places big enough for 4 people to stand and wave around a controller,

Well then you must not have a place big enough for 4 people to sit and play a game then. I think you have the wrong idea about how the games are controlled if you think that everyone needs to do aerobics or something and dance around the room with the remote. For shooting, you point... to swing a sword, you make a small slash... tennis, baseball, etc, you take a little swing. With all of those, you can sit and make subtle movements that simulate something you would actually do... it won't require a huge room for 4 people to play.


and Id love to see how the controller will hold up to young kids waving it around like banshees I hope they made it durable.

There is a wrist strap to prevent anyone from accidentally throwing the thing into your TV or into a wall, but yes I hope they make it as durable as the nintendo controllers have always been. Not worried about it.


The main market for gamers is 20-30's and the majority in that age range want the best most advanced graphics and tech they can get. Im not sure if others feel fine spending money on a processor that was designed years ago that is just being overclocked and no ability for next gen media but that sounds like a real waste of money to me.

Do you have a reliable source that says it uses a overclocked GC processor, or is that what your interpretation of a screenshot brings you to?


Actually in any sense or situation its a waste of money to be buying outdated tech but people will still buy. Nintendo's really throwing the dice here and IMO there gonna crap out.

Care to place a friendly wager on that one? Something simple.

[RallyeRedSi]

Well many people play games to relax or unwind, having to wave around a controller is not my idea of what I want to do when I play games. I understand games dont have to be played that way but thats the whole selling point of the system "A new way to play" (jerkit). Plus I dont know about you but I dont have many places big enough for 4 people to stand and wave around a controller, and Id love to see how the controller will hold up to young kids waving it around like banshees I hope they made it durable.The main market for gamers is 20-30's and the majority in that age range want the best most advanced graphics and tech they can get. Im not sure if others feel fine spending money on a processor that was designed years ago that is just being overclocked and no ability for next gen media but that sounds like a real waste of money to me. Actually in any sense or situation its a waste of money to be buying outdated tech but people will still buy. Nintendo's really throwing the dice here and IMO there gonna crap out.


the 20-30 year old is the market sony and microsoft want, nintendo has always been about everybody, i don't kno wbout you but i been playing games since i was like 4 and now im 23 and stil play em, and i notice all the new games are like omg nintendo teh kiddie ps2/xbox teh roxers cuase blood and killing owz joo because they think having these systems make em look cool, hell even sony copied nintendo controller, they didn't have that design befor enintendo unveile dtheir controller did they, Wii will be my first next generation console, follewed by 360 than ps3

[RallyeRedSi]

first Wii review: Wii Sports

http://wii.ign.com/articles/745/745708p1.html

[Kansei]

Sony execs claim that they thought of the motion sensing idea years ago. Sony software engineers said they found out about it precisely when it was unveiled to the public :P

Sony execs make a lot of claims :)

[Captain KRM P5]

Nintendo's really throwing the dice here and IMO there gonna crap out.

this was said about the n64 with cartridges. nintendo raked in 5 billion dollars in profit from that generation of software and hardware alone and has cash reserves far in excess of many companies in the industry.

this was said about the continued push of various game boy platforms. despite better hardware, there has never been a portable that has reached even a fraction of the success or had the staying power of the game boy, going almost 20 years on that basic architecture.

this was said about gamecube, not having an online aspect, not having a hard drive, not using full sized DVDs. yet the only market where the technically more powerful, easier to program for, less licensing fees, online saavy and better promoted xbox ever out did gamecube was the united states. the system was virtually forgotten in japan and asia, neck and neck at best in europe. microsoft lost upwards of 700 dollars per system sold and has yet to recoup thier investment even with the success of the 360. nintendo walked out of the gate not losing a dime even on the hardware, and made up for any price drop with overall superior software sales ratios, game per system.

this was said about DS, and yet most developers are scaling back PSP development, the UMD is the new 8track, PSP sales are merely average by comparison and there are waiting lines in japan for a system that is not only out of stock, but has also been out over a year. even in US stores the DS lite is one of the hottest selling items despite being technically 'inferior' to the PSP.

sega bombed out with the saturn and could never recover. nintendo could bomb out twice as hard with Wii and live off its software, its portable systems and cash investments until the next round. I think nintendo knows what thier market is and I can tell you this much; at an EB gamestop in a mall here in chi-tow, there was a line to try out the new Wii kiosk. the 360 , ps2 and ps3 demo kiosks were all but empty.

and for the record, the system horsepower is on-par with "2 xboxes", not 1.5 gamecubes, according to most third party developers working on the system.

the system may not be right for you, i will grant you that. but to make a blanket statement that the system will flatout fail is ill-advised lunacy based on the company's track record and the wealth of development talent working for them. the games alone will make it worth buying.

[gimpo2]

Or be a blind pawn to business and continue buying everything thrown our way

are you a communist? thats how it works with everything

[Captain KRM P5]

if gaming is a person's true hobby/passion - as corny as that sounds to some - how is that something to criticize if they buy most or all of the new hardware that comes out?

[gimpo2]

So you buy everything and anything? Sounds like you fit right in

of course not. but anything you buy is gonna be some crap that some company threw at you to buy so they can make money.

[Captain KRM P5]

So you think gaming is as meaningful as other interests and hobbies people have

So you presume yourself to be qualified to pass objective judgement on another's subjective interests and pasttimes

[Blake]

So you think gaming is as meaningful as other interests and hobbies people have
Dude there are people that make more money gaming in a hand full of years than youll make in a lifetime. Dont be so quick to shoot that down homie.

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[Blake]

Case in point, worried about colored paper above all else
Case in point....wtf are you talking about...quit trying to confuse people like (gimpo).


I have to pull out the "You are Retarded" Card.

[Captain KRM P5]

So gaming is as meaningful as volunteering

So the word meaningful is cast in stone, black and white, in terms of your own definition and no one elses and can be applied to apples and oranges comparisons

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[Blake]

I didnt think "case in point" was that hard to understand, but ok. Who are you pulling out the card for?


The person who posted this quote ^^


lol but seriously im just jokeing around. To each his own, I just brought up a point without reading the entire thread.

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[gimpo2]

So do you want to argue semantics?

you guys have been arguing semantics! just go away man.. please?

[Blake]

how did this go from Nintendo Wii....to comparing gameing, to giving blood?

[Blake]

Its cool man. Call me crazy I just think theres more to life than video games
There is also more to life than argueing on the internet?

[mountjonas]

i didn't know that hobbies and interests means helping out the less fortunate. must be that public educamacation i done received.

[Blake]

i didn't know that hobbies and interests means helping out the less fortunate. must be that public educamacation i done received.
hahaha, right on dude

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[Blake]

And some people think playing DnD is meaningful, BtW do you play DnD? is that why you are so upset is because "its not like the good ol days".

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[gimpo2]

Someone can’t have an interest in helping others can’t take their free time and use it towards volunteering....sounds similar to something else....hmm

sounds like you. couldn't you be feeding the hungry instead of trying to stir up shit?

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[Captain KRM P5]

So do you want to argue semantics?

So you want to change the nature of the argument from the technical merits of a Wii to an argument totally unrelated to that in an effort to win said argument

[mountjonas]

Someone can’t have an interest in helping others can’t take their free time and use it towards volunteering....sounds similar to something else....hmm

man, you have the most juvenile logic.

[Blake]

Nah Im really upset cause I cant make crazy money like video gamers homie and spend money like woah cause thats what its all about
See I knew you would see it my way sooner or later (shocked)

I guarantee that you wont be able to make people feel your way, so why (poop) on the thread. There is no reason for it, sharing your opinion is one thing, but there is a place and time for that brotha. Your posting this in a thread about people excited about the Wii, not in a thread about "Vol. V Gaming".

[Captain KRM P5]

Someone can’t have an interest in helping others can’t take their free time and use it towards volunteering....sounds similar to something else....hmm

But you can have an interest in Ferraris at the same time you can have an interest in helping people. By your definition here those would be incompatible interests. Last time I checked, a homie needed alot of colored paper to buy an Italian sports car.

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[mountjonas]

Nah Im really upset cause I cant make crazy money like video gamers homie and spend money like woah cause thats what its all about

well, the last i heard, a 430 cost money. not how many poor people you've fed.

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[gimpo2]

But how many can say they've given time to help others
I don't fucking care about anyone else. They can just rot and die. I want a fucking Wii thats all that matters. Someone freeze me and this dickwad too

[Captain KRM P5]

But how many can say they've given time to help others

But how many can say that having a hobby or passion outside of charity work prevented them from helping anyone period

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[Donas64]

this was said about the n64 with cartridges. nintendo raked in 5 billion dollars in profit from that generation of software and hardware alone and has cash reserves far in excess of many companies in the industry.

this was said about the continued push of various game boy platforms. despite better hardware, there has never been a portable that has reached even a fraction of the success or had the staying power of the game boy, going almost 20 years on that basic architecture.

this was said about gamecube, not having an online aspect, not having a hard drive, not using full sized DVDs. yet the only market where the technically more powerful, easier to program for, less licensing fees, online saavy and better promoted xbox ever out did gamecube was the united states. the system was virtually forgotten in japan and asia, neck and neck at best in europe. microsoft lost upwards of 700 dollars per system sold and has yet to recoup thier investment even with the success of the 360. nintendo walked out of the gate not losing a dime even on the hardware, and made up for any price drop with overall superior software sales ratios, game per system.

this was said about DS, and yet most developers are scaling back PSP development, the UMD is the new 8track, PSP sales are merely average by comparison and there are waiting lines in japan for a system that is not only out of stock, but has also been out over a year. even in US stores the DS lite is one of the hottest selling items despite being technically 'inferior' to the PSP.

sega bombed out with the saturn and could never recover. nintendo could bomb out twice as hard with Wii and live off its software, its portable systems and cash investments until the next round. I think nintendo knows what thier market is and I can tell you this much; at an EB gamestop in a mall here in chi-tow, there was a line to try out the new Wii kiosk. the 360 , ps2 and ps3 demo kiosks were all but empty.

and for the record, the system horsepower is on-par with "2 xboxes", not 1.5 gamecubes, according to most third party developers working on the system.

the system may not be right for you, i will grant you that. but to make a blanket statement that the system will flatout fail is ill-advised lunacy based on the company's track record and the wealth of development talent working for them. the games alone will make it worth buying.

I could not have said it any better myself. Especially the DS vs PSP analogy.
But some people believe that you have to have cutting edge graphics and blood and gore if you wanna be cool and you're just not going to convince them otherwise. I think its funny that people bash Nintendo for being kiddy even though they are the most profitable gamemaker in the world today.

I own a PS2 (I just got one this year for Gran Turismo 2, God of War, Burnout Revenge and Midnight Club Dub Edition), and they are fun games, I also play Games on my PC. But none of these games have even touched the amount of fun I've had beating the CRAP outta my friends in Smash Bros.

To each his own.

[gimpo2]

Hopefully the freezing process makes you sterile

nice one. i'm rubber you're glue anything you say to me comes back and sticks to you.

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[Captain KRM P5]

And how would time spent playing video games be the same as time spent helping others.

And how would time spent on message board focused on commercial objects of gratification (performance cars) and the spending of money on those cars be the same as time spent helping others.

You imply that people can do only one thing with thier free time as the basis for an argument not to spend money on video games. That's a foolish, narrowminded, presumptious, arrogant basis for an argument that to be called slippery-slope trolling would be a compliment. If you are so self righteous, drop your fandom of expensive cars, sell your material posessions, join the Peace Corps, get some shots and ship off to a poorer nation to donate your time. Anything less by your definition is a waste of time, energy and colored paper.

[Captain KRM P5]

I think its funny that people bash Nintendo for being kiddy even though they are the most profitable gamemaker in the world today.

I think its funny that FBIs original argument was soundly picked apart and now we're debating the time spent charity work over recreational hobbies. because you know, doing more than one thing with your time is impossible, right? not only is it impossible, but those that don't devote thier time to the helping of others are apparantly people of lesser worth.

[mountjonas]

the bitch is retarded. simple as that.

[gimpo2]

i won!!!!

[Captain KRM P5]

i won!!!!

cookies are in the mail

[Donas64]

I think its funny that FBIs original argument was soundly picked apart and now we're debating the time spent charity work over recreational hobbies. because you know, doing more than one thing with your time is impossible, right?

Yeah no joke!

Geez louis how the heck did we jump from talking about the Wii to volunteering?


I'm sure all of us here have volunteered to help a cause or volunteer at one time or another. I know I have, but what the heck does that have to do with games?

I'm sure some people just like to pick fights on internet forums for no apparent reason.

Can we plase get back on topic?

[Donas64]

the bitch is retarded. simple as that.

I wouldn't put it quite so harshly, but the young man from maranello (home of ferrari owning salavation army kidney donating saints) is a few sandwiches short of a picnic

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[Captain KRM P5]

So a person who never volunteered never went out of there way to help another and had the average hobbies, their "contribution" would be as worthy as someone who did volunteer and help others with average hobbies.
Again we're back to the argument of it being possible or even appropriate to pass judgement whatsoever. Define average hobbies. Define the worth of any contribution. Tell me what makes you qualified and not hypocritical at the same time. You got involved in a topic you had only criticism, not interest in. You lost the argument on the basis of merit and changed the topic to something more palatable. Weak, ineffectual, pompous grandstanding.

Nice attempt with the "trifecta" remark to salvage some semblance of credibility in your charade. You were so excited to type that series of words that you forgot where the space bar and a few punctuation marks should have been applied.

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[Captain KRM P5]

The guy who prides himself on being a car enthusiast says BWM's have V-6's

The guy who has some knowledge of European sports cars just called a BMW a BWM. It should also be V6s or V-6s. V-6's implies ownership. For example, if a V-6 had colored paper to care about.

[mountjonas]

What a pure wizard

that's right, boy. i've got a robe and pointy hat on right now.

[FBI14]

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[Captain KRM P5]

that's right, boy. i've got a robe and pointy hat on right now.

i knew it, i found your pic on the internet

http://arkansastonight.com/uploaded_images/MickeyWizardMain-777073.jpg

cast a spell that puts common sense and a broader sense of reality into FBI14

[k-lea]

subn.

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[Captain KRM P5]

Talk about hypocritical, how many times have you passed judgement on me? Dont act like your not impressed by the trifecta :p...

Actually until this thread I really had no opinion of you either way. I'm impressed that the word trifecta even found a home in a thread on the Mazda Forums.

[Captain KRM P5]

subn.

You doing this pretty much kills it, thanks alot

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[k-lea]

You doing this pretty much kills it, thanks alot
I do my best.

[mountjonas]

narrowminded


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[Kooldino]

Everyone, STFU.

FBI, please grow up. If you don't want a Wii, then don't buy one, but for the love of God, don't be an e-tard about it for 4 pages. Nothing personal, but this is getting a bit silly.

Ya heard?

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[mountjonas]

retard

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[Kooldino]

Hey hey, no more name calling. That means you too, mountjonas!

So i played excitetruck on the wii last week in the store. It was a pretty average game.

[mountjonas]

how is wii sports? i'm seriously considering a wii now. the thought of paying $600 for a ps3 right now is more than i can handle.

[RallyeRedSi]

Hey hey, no more name calling. That means you too, mountjonas!

So i played excitetruck on the wii last week in the store. It was a pretty average game.


it was cool, i had to get use to the controller at first, but i really want to play Zelda

[RallyeRedSi]

how is wii sports? i'm seriously considering a wii now. the thought of paying $600 for a ps3 right now is more than i can handle.


i posted a review couple pages back

[mountjonas]

yeah, i saw that and read it. i was just looking for more.

[gimpo2]

yeah, i saw that and read it. i was just looking for more.

did you check out the COD 3 gameplay footage? its also on ign

[505zoom]

Wow, wish I hadn't missed the bs while it was happening... oh wait, no I don't.

FBI- Pretty lame reply to my last post... only taking two little snips to reply to and all. Oh well, I guess I see why you attempted to derail the thread with a totally unrelated topic, nice one. My offer stands, what shall we wager on the upcoming fate of nintendo?

[505zoom]

From FBI's link:


A poster at the Ace's Hardware message board has dug up a new IBM datasheet for the 750CL, which is a new derivative of the IBM 750 (a.k.a. the G3). Based on the information revealed in the datasheet, the 750CL is basically just a 90nm die shrink of the Gekko hardware that's intended to run at up to 900MHz. IBM almost certainly would not go to the trouble of launching an updated version of Gekko on a new process, unless what many have said all along is in fact true: Broadway is a faster, lower-power version of the GameCube's Gekko hardware.

Even with this unconfirmed source that is named in that article who "dug up" some "revolutionary" info that says it is a new version of the old processor, what is the problem? Why do they have to completely rewrite the book to get your (or in this case anyone's) approval? How long do you think anyone can continue to rewrite that book before it is enough?

[Donas64]

The guy who prides himself on being a car enthusiast says BWM's have V-6's

1. I don't pride myself on being a BMW (or in your case BWM) enthusiast, just a car enthusiast in general.

2. I later corrected my statements to the proper denotation of Inline or Straight 6

3. What the heck does any of this have to do with the Wii?

[Donas64]

Hey hey, no more name calling. That means you too, mountjonas!

So i played excitetruck on the wii last week in the store. It was a pretty average game.

It does look like your basic racer. More of a showase for the controller than anyting else. Besides I think that game will appeal to people like my wife who always twist and bend the controller when playing a racing game. I try to tell her that it doesn't do anything but she's not really into games. She might find this game fun though.

[sanblaster]

3. What the heck does any of this have to do with the Wii?

The Wii has a V-6..

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[Kooldino]

The Wii has a V-6..

You win the thread

(lol)

[Kansei]

Its cool man. Call me crazy I just think theres more to life than video games

Yeah.. like coming into a thread of fans of the Nintendo Wii just to bash it ... and then trying to change the subject, and then trying to spark a philosophical debate. There's 4 more pages of this thread that were made between midnight and right now.. but I'm going to assume they are just full of you shitting on this thread.

Not worth my time/energy to read. You're a TERRIBLE HUMAN BEING because you are on the internets arguing when you could be saving someone's live. SHAME ON YOU.

now (gtfo)

[Kansei]

Oh and hey look at me.

The Wii has an underclocked IBM G3 processor and 4MB of RAM. Nobody buy that crap.

Ok now I can be quoted on Kotaku. The story will read: "A poster on the mazdas247.com forum confirmed earlier reports from one of our readers (myself, durr) that the Wii actually has an UNDERCLOCKED version of the IBM G3 Processor used in the Gamecube. On top of that, it only has 4MB of RAM. How pathetic".

First off.. Kotaku isn't the word of god. My two roommates have gotten probably half a dozen news stories posted on there.. it isn't hard. Plus, that news story referenced a post on some interweb forum by some random guy. Geeze.. I thought people using wikipedia as a reference on papers in college was bad.. but that just takes the cake.

[seanmcsean]

like I said, unless the wii's controller blows me out of the water, I'm not going to buy one. I'll wait patiently for the first service pack and price reduction of the ps3.

[Donas64]

like I said, unless the wii's controller blows me out of the water, I'm not going to buy one. I'll wait patiently for the first service pack and price reduction of the ps3.

Nothing wrong with that. Even though I'm a Nintendo fan, I'm taking the same approach. I'm gunna wait and see what developers do with it and if it looks like it will supported with innovative, fun 1st and 3rd party content, I'll pick one up for sure. If not, I have several Gamecube, PS2 and PC titles I needed to finish anyways.

I'm not buying a PS3 because quite simply, its too expensive and the investment does not seem worth it for me. But thats just my opinion. I'm sure I'll play PS3 games at a buddies place or something and I'm sure it will be a killer system. Just not for me. To each his own.

[505zoom]

Only ones worth replying to, Im not the one who came up with the lame idea of someone stating a CPU was overclocked just from looking at it, that was you. You know that old saying dont judge a book by its cover, I guess you never understood that one.

Ok so I will assume that you didn't even read the post in question... you know, the one where your ideas of needing a huge room and stuff like that are debunked? Also, if you didn't pick up on the sarcasm when I asked if you had come to the conclusion by looking at a screenshot, then lighten up buddy.


Bet: I lose, I buy you a Wii. You Lose you buy a plane ticket over here so I can kick you in the nuts and then fly back.... Might as well make it interesting :)

That's ok, I will have a wii this sunday and won't have any need for a second one. And as for losing, nintendo won't be going under anytime soon, so I won't be losing the bet anyway.


You wanted a reference, you got one. Ovbiously with you it would never be enough becuase I showed you what you asked about and it still wasnt enough. Just accept it.

Your reading comprehension is terrible. I already did accept it and said it doesn't really matter anyway, but the key here was I said "a reliable source". You didn't provide that.

[RallyeRedSi]

Second review Trauma center

http://wii.ign.com/articles/745/745710p1.html

[gimpo2]

Second review Trauma center

http://wii.ign.com/articles/745/745710p1.html

I played this game a lil bit on the DS and man it was hard. you gotta move fast. Its good to see that there are no gripes about how well the controller works

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[505zoom]

Changed your tune to that one. But then again its easy to pick up scarcasm in writing.

Uhm, not really... I was asking for the specs from a reliable source, and you didn't have one. Post the datasheet from IBM... post specs from nintendo... but to post some bloggers claim is not a reliable source. Like I said, this point is irrelevant compared to the fact that all of your other beefs with the system are half assed judgements or misconceptions.


It was your idea to make the bet and then pressed the idea. Do you constantly change your mind?

Who changed their mind? Me saying that I don't agree to your stupid terms isn't changing my mind. I bet you 20 bucks that this system does nothing but provide fun for gamers and makes nintendo a lot of money. If you are so confident that this system will be the end of nintendo, take it. Don't want to lose 20 bucks?... then how about something simple like I will put whatever avatar you want up for a week if I lose, and you do the same (they would have to be within forum rules and work safe of course).


Ok lets go over this then. "A poster" rather irrelevant considering what he found, being the IBM Datasheet about the 750CL. Suddenly "dug up" is an unreliable way to get information even if the dug up information is an IBM datasheet from IBM. "Based on" the IBM datasheet from IBM (Said right there in the write up just worded differently). "Basically" the same thing. "Updated,” nothing new just a spruced up old CPU. "Faster" - Overclocked. You were saying something about reading comprehension.

Yes and I will ask you again... what is your point? Oh yeah, that's right, you need a entirely new piece of hardware each time to make it worth the money? Lame. In my opinion, it is sometimes better to refine a existing setup rather than go to a whole new platform... and judging by the fact that you own and mod a protege, I guess I am not the only one here who would agree with that philosophy.

[sanblaster]

Please take your garbage elsewhere fellas. The 'who has the bigger e-penis thread' is in the dumpster forum. Please go there...

[505zoom]

This is still relevant to the topic for the most part, but yes, worthless pretty much. I can go have a better arguement with my plants about this.

[gimpo2]

This is still relevant to the topic for the most part, but yes, worthless pretty much. I can go have a better arguement with my plants about this.

but then what about your volunteer work??? just ignore him

[k-lea]

boo, unsub.

*edit* oh wait, it's still going. resub.

[Donas64]

boo, unsub.

*edit* oh wait, it's still going. resub.

instigator!(peep) (first)

[k-lea]

instigator!(peep) (first)

it's entertainment.

[gimpo2]

it's entertainment.

(inter)tainment

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[Kansei]

Id like to compare how much we have spent on our cars since owing them. And if your fine buying a outdated piece of tech, be my guest. Im not the one defending buying the system.

Your definition of outdated is terrible. Yes, a wild Cell processor is more powerful than the G3 used in the Wii. No one is denying that. To me, a game system is outdated when it can no longer provide enjoyment or you can't buy replacement parts for it.

It really does parallel the Protege-modding philosophy well at this stage in the game. Let's face it, a Protege isn't the latest and greatest thing on the block. The FS-DE is no mega powerhouse, but we still drive them. Why? Because these cars are a hell of a lot of fun, and the new model (Mazda 3 hatchback in my case) is horrifically ugly, bloated, and feels far too isolated from the road. With that in mind, I don't consider the Protege outdated. My Protege will only be outdated when it's sitting in my garage for years with bent rods and no one to make rods for it anymore :P until then it's zoom-zoom or bust!

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[Kansei]

My definition is terrible and yours is spot on...
By that definition no game console would really ever be out of date since you can always find replacement controllers wires ect. for nearly any system.
But now that we have the proper and correct definition of outdated were good to go. Might as well start selling atari 2600 for $250 this Holiday season as well.
250 wouldn't justify the price of the hardware (for the atari). Unlike Sony, who has to sell the PS3 at a huge loss initially that will be made up for by software sales, Nintendo doesn't always do that. They made a profit (albeit a very slim one) on Gamecube sales from day 1, and as the hardware prices dropped they dropped the price. I haven't read if the Wii is being sold at a loss or with a small profit, but I'm guessing given it's hardware it's at a slight profit.

That being said, I think the approach Sony takes is a very good one for the consumer. It makes the initial investment lower, getting more people in the door. It's also good for the consumer because it pressures Sony (who is not in a financially stable situation at all currently) to develop very good titles to make the game console project as a whole profitable. I spent 330 on my PS2 (including GT3) and 1500 on games for my PS2 o_O

[Donas64]

Your definition of outdated is terrible. Yes, a wild Cell processor is more powerful than the G3 used in the Wii. No one is denying that. To me, a game system is outdated when it can no longer provide enjoyment or you can't buy replacement parts for it.

It really does parallel the Protege-modding philosophy well at this stage in the game. Let's face it, a Protege isn't the latest and greatest thing on the block. The FS-DE is no mega powerhouse, but we still drive them. Why? Because these cars are a hell of a lot of fun, and the new model (Mazda 3 hatchback in my case) is horrifically ugly, bloated, and feels far too isolated from the road. With that in mind, I don't consider the Protege outdated. My Protege will only be outdated when it's sitting in my garage for years with bent rods and no one to make rods for it anymore :P until then it's zoom-zoom or bust!

People were saying the gamecube was outdated and dead, then Resident Evil 4 came out and beat the heck outta any other game on any other system ( until they ported it to the PS2)

Like I said, if the Wii is at least capable of RE4 graphics, I'll be just fine.

[505zoom]

Read some more and hey whattda know.... the datasheet http://www-306.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/techdocs/2F33B5691BBB8769872571D10065F7D5/$file/ppc750cl_ds_dd20_5oct06.pdf

See the soruce used for the "bloggers claim" came from the IBM datasheet, what some would call a reliable source.

Ok you got that one, I didn't ever see the actual sheet posted on there.


I like the avatar idea, maybe the loser has to take some kinda goofy picture of their self and then use it in their avatar.

Ok agreed then... Nintendo goes down on this one and I put whatever you want in my avatar, vice versa. No shit that will piss off any of the admins at all. Also, what is the timeframe here?... waiting until the next generation in 5 years obviously isn't going to work.


Id like to compare how much we have spent on our cars since owing them.

Start a new thread if you want to compare that, but as far as this topic goes, money spent isn't really the point... it's the passion to modify what most people would call a "outdated" platform that relates to this.


And if your fine buying a outdated piece of tech, be my guest. Im not the one defending buying the system.

We can just agree to disagree here on this one... I think that the new control system makes the wii anything but outdated, and I am not sad at all about the capabilities of the processor. Hell I am playing OoT Master Quest on my gamecube again (which is actually a N64 game) and having a blast, so obviously there is still some fun to be had in "outdated" tech for me. Then take my car, 10 out of 14 of my golf clubs (all of which are 5+ years old now), and you can see where I am at when it comes to "old tech". I just say that it isn't always necessary to rewrite the book... if it aint broke don't fix it.

[Blake]

Ok you got that one, I didn't ever see the actual sheet posted on there.



Ok agreed then... Nintendo goes down on this one and I put whatever you want in my avatar, vice versa. No shit that will piss off any of the admins at all. Also, what is the timeframe here?... waiting until the next generation in 5 years obviously isn't going to work.



Start a new thread if you want to compare that, but as far as this topic goes, money spent isn't really the point... it's the passion to modify what most people would call a "outdated" platform that relates to this.



We can just agree to disagree here on this one... I think that the new control system makes the wii anything but outdated, and I am not sad at all about the capabilities of the processor. Hell I am playing OoT Master Quest on my gamecube again (which is actually a N64 game) and having a blast, so obviously there is still some fun to be had in "outdated" tech for me. Then take my car, 10 out of 14 of my golf clubs (all of which are 5+ years old now), and you can see where I am at when it comes to "old tech". I just say that it isn't always necessary to rewrite the book... if it aint broke don't fix it.

Haha speaking of golf I shot a 76 the other day not having played in like 2+years im gonna start playing alot more now.

[505zoom]

Damn dude nice... I haven't shot that low in awhile... average 78-82 for my last 10 rounds. Keep it up and get out there more for sure.(thumb)

[Blake]

I hear they got some good golfing in NM, my girlfriends grand parents have a house on a course out there.

[RallyeRedSi]

another review super monkey ball

http://wii.ign.com/articles/746/746040p1.html

[RallyeRedSi]

Call of Duty 3 review
http://wii.ign.com/articles/746/746145p1.html

[Captain KRM P5]

Call of Duty 3 review
http://wii.ign.com/articles/746/746145p1.html

this review, at least for me, was quite a let down

[505zoom]

Just got back from trying out the demo kiosk... pretty cool, and damn that thing is tiny. Excitetruck is better than I thought it would be, will probably still pass on it though.

[RallyeRedSi]

Excite Truck review

http://wii.ign.com/articles/746/746278p1.html


Tony Hawk Downhill jam review
http://wii.ign.com/articles/746/746341p1.html

[Captain KRM P5]

Excite Truck review

http://wii.ign.com/articles/746/746278p1.html

i'd have to play more of the game than what i did, but i think from what i played 8.0 is generous

[RallyeRedSi]

the more i played it the more i liked it

[RallyeRedSi]

Rayman Review

http://wii.ign.com/articles/746/746378p1.html

[Donas64]

Twilight Princess Review: HECK YEAH!

http://wii.ign.com/articles/746/746691p1.html

[Donas64]

Excerpt from the IGN Review:

"Nintendo's new console ships with Wii Sports, which effectively demonstrates a new breed of games only possible on Wii. The Zelda franchise is equally exclusive to the machine and Twilight Princess is must-see, must-play and must-own entry into the series that proves over and over again why Nintendo is the best developer in the world."

It's all about the gameplay folks. When Nintendo is at the top of their game, they are simply the best.

[meinp5]

Anyone going to pitch a tent and wait out side all day?

[Kooldino]

the more i played it the more i liked it

Ditto, but I would have said 7.5 or so.

[Kooldino]

Anyone going to pitch a tent and wait out side all day?

Oh, I'm gonna pitch a tent alright.

(naughty)

[Donas64]

Anyone going to pitch a tent and wait out side all day?

No need too. Unlike another company that rhymes with "phoney", Nintendo actually makes sure it has enough consoles to meet the demand. You should be able to stroll into a store and purchase one.

[RallyeRedSi]

Madden 07 Review (better score than ps3)

http://wii.ign.com/articles/746/746697p1.html

[Donas64]

Madden 07 Review (better score than ps3)

http://wii.ign.com/articles/746/746697p1.html

Thats a very promising review. I have to say that the biggest hurdle would be overcoming the different controls. But once that hurdle is overcome, the Wii looks like it could be alot of fun

[Kooldino]

No need too. Unlike another company that rhymes with "phoney", Nintendo actually makes sure it has enough consoles to meet the demand. You should be able to stroll into a store and purchase one.

I wouldn't go as far to say that, but there certainly will be plenty of consoles.

That said, I know certain forum members who have been camping out for hours already.

[505zoom]

Got there at noon, and there was already 15 people waiting for the 12 systems that are coming... the other walmarts had more than 30-40 people outside at noon. I put my name down for the 16th spot, and have since then moved up to 13. The store manager says that the shipping invoice shows 18 systems, but only 12 showed up... they are tracking the remaining 6 to see when they will be showing up, and they are optimistic at this point that they are on the 9 oclock truck. Keep your fingers crossed for me fellas... gonna be bummed if I am 13th on a list of 12, especially after already waiting for 6 hours, haha.

[RODSCALIP5]

Just got back from Wal-mart, Best Buy, Target and Toys R US. Best Buy had the largest line with 20 people. Target and Toys R us had none. The guys at Best Buy said they had 102. The Walmart is open 24 hrs.,I think I will go there after the boxing match and hang out for an hour to see if I can pick one up.

[meinp5]

My buddy works at the Best Buy locally and he is going to tell me if there is a line when he gets out. If not too bad I will probably head up and get one tonight.

[RODSCALIP5]

Here is a good site, it tells you how many wii your local Target stores have

http://wii.clambert.org/

[meinp5]

sweet..the closest one to me has 55.


Here is a good site, it tells you how many wii your local Target stores have

http://wii.clambert.org/

[Kansei]

troll into a store? hmm. crap um I gotta find a store opening at midnight for this!!

someone help! I'm in 06787 (CT). I heard Best Buy isn't doing a midnight launch, but maybe Circuit City? The Wal-Marts here aren't 24 hours.

I was going to wait for a few weeks but now I'm back home for thanksgiving break and bored out of my mind already!!

[Kansei]

I can't find a best buy, circuit city, or wal-mart doing a midnight launch.

I could only find 1 24-hour wal mart in ct.. someone answered and said "we only have 20, and there's hundreds of people in line already"

I guess I'm just going to do the casual approach and wake up at 8 or 9 and hit target and toy's R us

good luck everyone!

[Kooldino]

I got my Wii at 12:00 EST on the dot. I'm all Wii'd out for tonight, I can barely see straight.

I have Wii Sports (obviously), Zelda, and Monkey Ball.

More info tomorrow.

[Iamgoodyy]

I got mine too. I have Zelda and Raymann to dig thru tomorrow, along with an 8page Final Paper for class.

[505zoom]

BOWLING.

And zelda... the mote is smooth... I'll probably never be able to play a game like this again with dual analog.

All of the stores here got way less of everything than those tracker websites said they would... good luck to you guys this morning everywhere else.

[Donas64]

Trauma Center review. Seems to be a very fun game. Even though the dude in the review seems to be a graphics whore, he still seemed to have fun with the game. I'd be interested in checking this game out.

http://www.gamespot.com/events/wiilaunch/story.html?sid=6161923&pid=933018&tag=topslot;action;5&om_act=convert&click=topslot

[redrims]

I'm getting the Wii... I mean, it's only $250 lol. And after seeing Zelda in action, I'm sold!

[jred321]

i stopped at 3 stores, they were all sold out. way too much effort for me, i'll wait a week and then i'll just be able to walk in and grab one off the shelf

[Kansei]

I got my wii!

yay! Toys R Us had 65 that weren't presold, like 120 total the manager said. I got there at 9, got #55 spot in line :) :)

I got Zelda and Trauma center.. should be friggin awesome!

[RODSCALIP5]

Got the wii and Zelda. Easy day, got up at 0700, was at Target @ 0730, waited 30 min. was out by 0810. I felt bad for the people that were there since Fri.

[Kansei]

i stopped at 3 stores, they were all sold out. way too much effort for me, i'll wait a week and then i'll just be able to walk in and grab one off the shelf

yeah Toys R Us seems to be the place to go. The one in Waterbury had a ton. I guess they were one of the major wii launch places.

[jred321]

yea toys r us and gamestop have an arrangement with nintendo, they're supposed to be getting more wii's than the other stores

[Kansei]

Ok so far: Trauma Center is basically just like it is on the DS (the same "graphics"-wise.. not that the game is 3d or anything haha) but with the wiimote and nunchuk instead of touching. It's really fun, but I'm pissed -- my mom played it and kicked my ass! I guess the learning curve on the wiimote isn't bad after all haha. I could never get my mom to play any other console.

Zelda.. I only played for maybe 30 minutes so I didn't get terribly far but it seems really good so far. I still don't know at all what the blue flying thing is that I can move around with the wiimote.

sucks that I'm back home for thanksgiving break.. my TV is sitting at my house in Rochester so I have to use the tv in the living room.. but my dad sleeps on the couch out there so I can't play right now :'(

I need to find a random TV in one of the spare bedrooms.. there's gotta be something I can use, even if it's like a 15"

[Captain KRM P5]

my wii launch tale;

we have two super wal-marts within five miles of me, both 24 hours. i called at 10pm the night prior to ask how many people were in line. answer; none. i ask how many systems they have. answer; 50+. i figure, not bad. they say, call at noon and see where we are at. i had been burned the night before that by the ps3 launch so i was not about to have that happen this time. i called at 4 am, still no line.

i called again at 10am and murphy's law kicked in. not only were they no longer getting 50 units, but they were getting 29 and had 29 people in line at each store already. so much for a midnight grab. i called the other stores in the area and 90% of them were doing it by raffle. our local ps3 launches were met with some ambulance traffic and riot gear so most stores had been scared into preventing any kind of lines. i jumped in the car and called best buy, who refused to reveal the number of systems they had.

i arrived at best buy at noon saturday and one person was in line, had been since 8am (ugh!). the store manager came out and told the guy "come back tomorrow afternoon, we have plenty." i asked how plenty. 130 he says. i say, you have 130 in the store, on hand right now? he steps back and mumbles that he has 70, but is GUARANTEED that last shipment tonight! i'm done with these goons and thier false promises, my mind tells me, and I plant my ass on the sidewalk. he re-assures us we are nuts and there will be no one else in line.

i call my buds and my brother and the tents, sleeping bags, propane tanks and heaters arrive. as soon as the tent goes up, people around us start to ask questions. four more people show up. two more tents pop up. people with lawn chairs, charcoal grills, blankets and hoodies start to trickle in. this transpires all before 6pm that night. the store manager comes out to reassure us, there is no need to form a line as they have 130. i ask him if that truck showed up and he says, "no but its on its way!" you can feel the collective eyes roll. cell phone calls start to get made and more people join our outdoor slumber party.

around dinner time we order a pizza to the front of the store. the delivery guy makes a bee-line for the customer service counter and the look on his face when we called for him to come over to the tents was priceless. a big ass dodge truck rolls by with a sign taped to the side "sony ps3s for sale". this asshat with a megaphone hangs out the window repeating that phrase over and over again. i asked how much, he replies 1500 each. the crowd giggled and laughed and told him to GTFO. he got huffy and puffy before stomping the gas pedal. people reminded us that ps3 came out two days ago, so why were we lining up? no fucking shit, folks, thanks. we started telling people who asked, what is this line for? Atari 2600, Jaguar, Genesis, Blank CD-Rs or PlayStation4. when asked what a PS4 did, one of the guys shouted "it cures aids".

i had a few guys who kept coming back offering me cash to sell them my Wii. i told them if i wanted a system just to make money on, it would be a ps3. he whined that he really wanted one, so i told him to sit in line. he responded that he did not want to get cold. I responded with tough shit.

By this time news reporters from the community college showed up to get "the story" and we were about 35 people deep. Store manager came out again and told us we were all nuts that there would be no shortage. I asked him where that infamous truck was and he replied with "never came actually, but don't worry!" I told him I would be taking a list and a roll call for every new person in line so that we would have no last minute line hopping assholes. He said he approved of this idea and I began taking names. I got to the back of the line and some chump employee refused to put his name on it. "A list is bullshit," he said. This prompted some skeptical outcry from his line neighbors who accused him of having some friends coming to jump in last minute. Needless to say, he signed the list. So my brother and I and a few of the first-in-liners maintained that list throughout the night.

By midnight we were approaching 50 people. Some people came by and asked if I really thought the line would surpass the 80 systems they had by morning. I said yes, and a few people - thanks to the cold and wet and such - thought I was nuts. Some people added themselves to the list, went and bought some camping supplies and came back. Before Home Depot closed, Aric (my brother) had bought an extra propane tank and thank god for that, as the first tank expended itself just shy of 12. The propane heater got many "mad props" from the crowd and compliments even from the police. The officer said "none of the ps3 guys were smart enough to bring heaters." i said of course not, thats the kind of thing that seperates a nintendo fanboy from a sony one :) he chuckled and drove off.

we had some generous souls drop off some donuts, coffee and hot cocoa, and a crate - of all things - of fried chicken for us. the temps sailed below 40 degrees and then came the rain, followed by snow. there were a few people who came in nothing but street clothes. bad choice fellas. after gamestop and EB launched up the block, we had a good influx of ten plus people who mistakenly thought they'd be able to secure a system other than the pre-ordered ones there. people getting off 2nd shift began to show up. I had one guy who ran up in a panic and simply had to have a spot for him and "his husband." This unfortunately drew heckles and sneers from some people in line. On the flip side of that, a drunk teenager and an expelled young high schooler decided to get together, in the Wii line, over a romantic Crave Case (30 white castles). Terbow told me that he and his wife had White Castle on thier wedding day. You da man, Tony.

Played some pigskin in the parking lot. I asked one group to put out thier charcoal grill as the police had a policy against open flames. I then had to argue with them over the nature of a propane heater and how it was not considered open flame. Thier response was to move thier grill into the tent and fire it up inside. Smart move if you want to wake up to third degree burns or sirens.

By about 5am we have about 70 people in line. Its started to settle in that , hey gang, camping out and forming a line maybe wasn't a bad idea. I drove by the Target crowd up the street to see how they were doing and felt rotten - easily 100 people all laying together in piles under wet blankets, drenched in rain and snow. no tents, no heat, just bodies. it looked like a homeless convention without the brown paper bag liquor and burn barrels. around 6 am, store employees, including the store manager, started showing up and were simply silent when they saw the size of the line. myself and a mother behind me (she was number 4) yelled to have everyone close up camp, clean up and get into line by order of the list. to my surprise, everyone did just that. we ran down the list by name and person and only found one guy who had potentially tried to get in. by this time, we had a confirmed count - 87 systems - and in case of anyone dropping off the list, had 95. that number had climbed past 100 before the doors even opened. I joked with the manager about his claims the night before and he regarded them with only mild amusement. one manager came out and - no kidding - cried and wept openly at the line because it meant she was not getting one for herself.

they started handing out tickets in order of the line list we created and person number 88 started bitching that she was number 87. the list proved otherwise and she left in a pissy fit. they kept stalling letting us in with things like "fill out this best buy credit app" or "heres a free DVD about wii and some coupons." they let us in five at a time, had the tables lined up all the way to customer service - games, controllers, SD cards, useless third party shit and finally the smiling lady with the systems. i picked up an extra nunchuk, an extra wii remote, a 2GB SD card, Zelda, Excite Truck and Rayman, as well as the system of course. And I got all for the price of one decently equipped PS3 and a game. As Aric and I left the store, the line erupted into cheers and applause. I was pretty weirded out by that but some people told me later that it was because myself, my brother and our buddies up front were the heroes of the night for providing the heat, the order and the prevention of line jumpers. I told them to have fun with thier systems and some of them replied jokingly, "WII will indeed"

jumped in the car, drove home with an extra Wii system in hand no less :) and promptly crashed after 21 hours of bitter damp insanity. i had three shirts, a sweatshirt, a skullcap, two pairs of pants and sweatpants on and still felt like i was thawing by the time i walked in the house.

hope you enjoyed my launch story. as for the system itself, i love it, i really do. the controls are great, wii sports is really a great diversion to show off how the whole thing works, zelda i really do think is excellent and rayman just blew me away. honestly, outside of zelda, anyone who owns this system needs rayman. its just a zany off the wall blast.

if anyone missed out and wants a Wii system, i have an extra sitting here next to my desk waiting for a buyer, pm me and let me know!

[seanmcsean]

I respect anyone who waited outside of a store, but seriously, if it has come to this, video games have gotten out of control.

[Captain KRM P5]

I respect anyone who waited outside of a store, but seriously, if it has come to this, video games have gotten out of control.

yes they have, but i have a fun time doing it honestly. the times i have done it (dreamcast, ps2, wii) i have met some nice people and had some good times.

[seanmcsean]

as long as you had fun man, that's all it is about..

my beef is with the stores having to hire police in riot gear and having an ambulance on standby.. that is a little nuts..

hell, I can't criticize anyone for camping out. I show up to shea stadium every saturday in the summer 5 hours before the first pitch and bbq.. Cumulative, I waste more time than waiting one evening for a ps3 or wii :D

[redrims]

Congrats on your Wii. :)

You had me rolling in laughter...LMAO!


people reminded us that ps3 came out two days ago, so why were we lining up? no fucking shit, folks, thanks. we started telling people who asked, what is this line for? Atari 2600, Jaguar, Genesis, Blank CD-Rs or PlayStation4. when asked what a PS4 did, one of the guys shouted "it cures aids".

[Donas64]

Ok so far: Trauma Center is basically just like it is on the DS (the same "graphics"-wise.. not that the game is 3d or anything haha) but with the wiimote and nunchuk instead of touching. It's really fun, but I'm pissed -- my mom played it and kicked my ass! I guess the learning curve on the wiimote isn't bad after all haha. I could never get my mom to play any other console.

Zelda.. I only played for maybe 30 minutes so I didn't get terribly far but it seems really good so far. I still don't know at all what the blue flying thing is that I can move around with the wiimote.

sucks that I'm back home for thanksgiving break.. my TV is sitting at my house in Rochester so I have to use the tv in the living room.. but my dad sleeps on the couch out there so I can't play right now :'(

I need to find a random TV in one of the spare bedrooms.. there's gotta be something I can use, even if it's like a 15"

It's a classic case of TV-deprivitis. Thats why I always carry a spare 20" in the trunk. Why do you think I got a wagon.(glare)

[Donas64]

my wii launch tale;

we have two super wal-marts within five miles of me, both 24 hours. i called at 10pm the night prior to ask how many people were in line. answer; none. i ask how many systems they have. answer; 50+. i figure, not bad. they say, call at noon and see where we are at. i had been burned the night before that by the ps3 launch so i was not about to have that happen this time. i called at 4 am, still no line.

i called again at 10am and murphy's law kicked in. not only were they no longer getting 50 units, but they were getting 29 and had 29 people in line at each store already. so much for a midnight grab. i called the other stores in the area and 90% of them were doing it by raffle. our local ps3 launches were met with some ambulance traffic and riot gear so most stores had been scared into preventing any kind of lines. i jumped in the car and called best buy, who refused to reveal the number of systems they had.

i arrived at best buy at noon saturday and one person was in line, had been since 8am (ugh!). the store manager came out and told the guy "come back tomorrow afternoon, we have plenty." i asked how plenty. 130 he says. i say, you have 130 in the store, on hand right now? he steps back and mumbles that he has 70, but is GUARANTEED that last shipment tonight! i'm done with these goons and thier false promises, my mind tells me, and I plant my ass on the sidewalk. he re-assures us we are nuts and there will be no one else in line.

i call my buds and my brother and the tents, sleeping bags, propane tanks and heaters arrive. as soon as the tent goes up, people around us start to ask questions. four more people show up. two more tents pop up. people with lawn chairs, charcoal grills, blankets and hoodies start to trickle in. this transpires all before 6pm that night. the store manager comes out to reassure us, there is no need to form a line as they have 130. i ask him if that truck showed up and he says, "no but its on its way!" you can feel the collective eyes roll. cell phone calls start to get made and more people join our outdoor slumber party.

around dinner time we order a pizza to the front of the store. the delivery guy makes a bee-line for the customer service counter and the look on his face when we called for him to come over to the tents was priceless. a big ass dodge truck rolls by with a sign taped to the side "sony ps3s for sale". this asshat with a megaphone hangs out the window repeating that phrase over and over again. i asked how much, he replies 1500 each. the crowd giggled and laughed and told him to GTFO. he got huffy and puffy before stomping the gas pedal. people reminded us that ps3 came out two days ago, so why were we lining up? no fucking shit, folks, thanks. we started telling people who asked, what is this line for? Atari 2600, Jaguar, Genesis, Blank CD-Rs or PlayStation4. when asked what a PS4 did, one of the guys shouted "it cures aids".

i had a few guys who kept coming back offering me cash to sell them my Wii. i told them if i wanted a system just to make money on, it would be a ps3. he whined that he really wanted one, so i told him to sit in line. he responded that he did not want to get cold. I responded with tough shit.

By this time news reporters from the community college showed up to get "the story" and we were about 35 people deep. Store manager came out again and told us we were all nuts that there would be no shortage. I asked him where that infamous truck was and he replied with "never came actually, but don't worry!" I told him I would be taking a list and a roll call for every new person in line so that we would have no last minute line hopping assholes. He said he approved of this idea and I began taking names. I got to the back of the line and some chump employee refused to put his name on it. "A list is bullshit," he said. This prompted some skeptical outcry from his line neighbors who accused him of having some friends coming to jump in last minute. Needless to say, he signed the list. So my brother and I and a few of the first-in-liners maintained that list throughout the night.

By midnight we were approaching 50 people. Some people came by and asked if I really thought the line would surpass the 80 systems they had by morning. I said yes, and a few people - thanks to the cold and wet and such - thought I was nuts. Some people added themselves to the list, went and bought some camping supplies and came back. Before Home Depot closed, Aric (my brother) had bought an extra propane tank and thank god for that, as the first tank expended itself just shy of 12. The propane heater got many "mad props" from the crowd and compliments even from the police. The officer said "none of the ps3 guys were smart enough to bring heaters." i said of course not, thats the kind of thing that seperates a nintendo fanboy from a sony one :) he chuckled and drove off.

we had some generous souls drop off some donuts, coffee and hot cocoa, and a crate - of all things - of fried chicken for us. the temps sailed below 40 degrees and then came the rain, followed by snow. there were a few people who came in nothing but street clothes. bad choice fellas. after gamestop and EB launched up the block, we had a good influx of ten plus people who mistakenly thought they'd be able to secure a system other than the pre-ordered ones there. people getting off 2nd shift began to show up. I had one guy who ran up in a panic and simply had to have a spot for him and "his husband." This unfortunately drew heckles and sneers from some people in line. On the flip side of that, a drunk teenager and an expelled young high schooler decided to get together, in the Wii line, over a romantic Crave Case (30 white castles). Terbow told me that he and his wife had White Castle on thier wedding day. You da man, Tony.

Played some pigskin in the parking lot. I asked one group to put out thier charcoal grill as the police had a policy against open flames. I then had to argue with them over the nature of a propane heater and how it was not considered open flame. Thier response was to move thier grill into the tent and fire it up inside. Smart move if you want to wake up to third degree burns or sirens.

By about 5am we have about 70 people in line. Its started to settle in that , hey gang, camping out and forming a line maybe wasn't a bad idea. I drove by the Target crowd up the street to see how they were doing and felt rotten - easily 100 people all laying together in piles under wet blankets, drenched in rain and snow. no tents, no heat, just bodies. it looked like a homeless convention without the brown paper bag liquor and burn barrels. around 6 am, store employees, including the store manager, started showing up and were simply silent when they saw the size of the line. myself and a mother behind me (she was number 4) yelled to have everyone close up camp, clean up and get into line by order of the list. to my surprise, everyone did just that. we ran down the list by name and person and only found one guy who had potentially tried to get in. by this time, we had a confirmed count - 87 systems - and in case of anyone dropping off the list, had 95. that number had climbed past 100 before the doors even opened. I joked with the manager about his claims the night before and he regarded them with only mild amusement. one manager came out and - no kidding - cried and wept openly at the line because it meant she was not getting one for herself.

they started handing out tickets in order of the line list we created and person number 88 started bitching that she was number 87. the list proved otherwise and she left in a pissy fit. they kept stalling letting us in with things like "fill out this best buy credit app" or "heres a free DVD about wii and some coupons." they let us in five at a time, had the tables lined up all the way to customer service - games, controllers, SD cards, useless third party shit and finally the smiling lady with the systems. i picked up an extra nunchuk, an extra wii remote, a 2GB SD card, Zelda, Excite Truck and Rayman, as well as the system of course. And I got all for the price of one decently equipped PS3 and a game. As Aric and I left the store, the line erupted into cheers and applause. I was pretty weirded out by that but some people told me later that it was because myself, my brother and our buddies up front were the heroes of the night for providing the heat, the order and the prevention of line jumpers. I told them to have fun with thier systems and some of them replied jokingly, "WII will indeed"

jumped in the car, drove home with an extra Wii system in hand no less :) and promptly crashed after 21 hours of bitter damp insanity. i had three shirts, a sweatshirt, a skullcap, two pairs of pants and sweatpants on and still felt like i was thawing by the time i walked in the house.

hope you enjoyed my launch story. as for the system itself, i love it, i really do. the controls are great, wii sports is really a great diversion to show off how the whole thing works, zelda i really do think is excellent and rayman just blew me away. honestly, outside of zelda, anyone who owns this system needs rayman. its just a zany off the wall blast.

if anyone missed out and wants a Wii system, i have an extra sitting here next to my desk waiting for a buyer, pm me and let me know!

Excellent story. I've never stood in line for a system....well my gamecube but that was just like 30 mins before it went on sale. I'll have to pick up a Wii in the future. I figure I'll get Zelda as the last game I get on my gamecube, then trade all my gamecube stuff in for whatever they give me and get a Wii.

[jred321]

maybe those mysterious shipments that never came decided to come today. i should go swing by the stores :)

[RallyeRedSi]

no money = no wii for me (sad2)

[Kansei]

Do it up. I think Nintendo has a winner with this one. I'm gonna have my dad play it when he gets back from work tonight to see how he likes it. He really got into Zelda III: A Link to the Past and Super Mario World on SNES, but nothing after that.

If my mom can enjoy playing the Wii and making my gaming skills look special olympics worthy, that's saying something. They really seem to have made a console with an extremely wide appeal. I really want my parents to get one so I can try out the picture sending stuff.. since my cam and my mom's cam both use SD cards it should be awesome.

[505zoom]

Awesome Ken, glad everything went good.

I got up at 11 on saturday, went to the walmart that I was planning on waiting at, and there was already 40+ people in line for what they were saying was 20 systems. The wiiseeker site said all the walmarts here would have 53 each... not even close. So I head down to the next closest walmart, 15 people in line, I jump in at the 16 spot right at noon. The people at the front of the line said there was only 12 systems at this one, but I was skeptical of that number and didn't want to bail out until I heard that number from a manager. Word came in from someone that the store out on the outskirts of town had 20 systems and a line of 5 people, so the #13, #14, and #15 spots all bailed and headed for that one, moving me up to #13. I got some laughs from the crowd when I remarked "hey, at least this line is moving for someone".:)

The people at the front of the line had the list, and they were doing rollcall every half hour to see if anyone had left... nobody in front of me left all night and that put me right on the bubble. At about 3PM the store manager came out and told us that the inventory showed 18 systems, but the truck only had 12 on it, and he was trying to track down the missing 6 units. He brought out some pizzas and a bunch of juice drinks and sodas. At 6PM I start getting weary of waiting all day for a non-guaranteed spot, so I go inside to try and get an update from the manager... turns out he went home at 5, and didn't have any idea at that point. The new guy in charge of the fiasco said that he didn't have a definite number from the back, he said he had heard 18, 13, and 12... and all of those numbers came from people who "should" know he says. Argh, guess it's more waiting and hoping. It was about 8PM that the store manager showed back up, brought out a big bucket of chicken, more drinks, and he confirmed that the 6 missing systems were found and they had 18 available... woot, finally a sigh of relief from me.

At 10PM they move us inside to the holiday/garden area, which kinda sucked because we all had to put away our laptops, chairs, blankets, etc. I was also enjoying the outside line because it meant I could smoke cigs to kill some time, haha. 11PM we get tickets for our spots on the list, and all was set at that point. Picked up the system, extra wiimote (they only had 9 motes and 4 chucks, wtf), and zelda. Played til 5AM, then crashed out, ultra exhausted.

12 hours of waiting was more than worth it for this thing. Zelda is everything I hoped for, and bowling, omg bowling.... so fuckin real it's sick. Rolled a six-pack to close the tenth last night, scored 230, which destroyed my old best of 206. Baseball is alright, golf is kinda so-so (but shows what the technology can do... come on EA, get this thing down and make the sickest tiger woods yet). Tennis is fantastic and loads of fun with a buddy, boxing was the only disappointment on the disc IMO. If I can ever track down another nunchuck, I will be picking up redsteel for sure.

Hope you all are enjoying your nintendo as much as I am... productivity will be down big time this week, lol.

[Captain KRM P5]

my brother's girlfriend whooped my ass in boxing. i think pool would have made a good addition to the disc - draw the wii-mote back and push it forward to hit the ball?

with this extra system i have, i am thinking of a mazda forums raffle for it, with proceeds going to charity, any thoughts?

[505zoom]

Oh and on a side note, with all of the people that were turned away at the store, they could have sold 80 easily... wtf happened?... I thought they were supposed to be launching 4-5 times as many as sony did, and we only had 6 more nintendos at that store than ps3's. You damn big city folks hogged them all up I guess, haha.

[505zoom]

my brother's girlfriend whooped my ass in boxing. i think pool would have made a good addition to the disc - draw the wii-mote back and push it forward to hit the ball?

with this extra system i have, i am thinking of a mazda forums raffle for it, with proceeds going to charity, any thoughts?

Pool would be badass... me and dana were talking about that the other day on the phone... kinda like virtual pool on the PC.

Raffle it, good idea.

[Donas64]

Raffle soounds awesome. So far the comments I'm reading about the Wii seem to be mostly poisitve. Anyone play red steel yet? The game didn't look to promising but I want impressions from people who've actually played it. I'm sure it will get better as time goes on.

[505zoom]

Can anyone tell me what ports this thing wants to see?... support.nintendo.com is down and I want to check out the shop channel. Need to configure the router but don't know what ports to use.

[Kansei]

You shouldn't have to do anything? I left my router as is and just hopped on the wireless network and was off. Maybe the shop channel is just down for updates (Opera web browser???? I hope). Since the Wii initiates an outgoing connection your router shouldn't do anything to block that traffic.

[Kansei]

I can't figure out how to lure the kitty back to it's owner in Zelda bah! I figured out how to get teh kitty to follow me, but I walk him over to the owner and nothing happens.. can't get him to go through the kitty door at the shop either.

[Donas64]

I can't figure out how to lure the kitty back to it's owner in Zelda bah! I figured out how to get teh kitty to follow me, but I walk him over to the owner and nothing happens.. can't get him to go through the kitty door at the shop either.

Try a fish.

[Kansei]

I caught one but I don't think I put it back in the water.. maybe I did. It was a bitch to catch without any bait haha

[JDM-P5]

I am too involved w/the fixing of the Miata to get the Wii. Maybe when it's fixed...i'll get one for Xmas. :)

[Kansei]

*wish I had a yata instead of a wii*

wanna trade?

[Iamgoodyy]

I've heard Red Steel is awful.

[Kooldino]

my brother's girlfriend whooped my ass in boxing.

That's because you fight like a sissy, chump.


i think pool would have made a good addition to the disc - draw the wii-mote back and push it forward to hit the ball?

They're going to release that as it's own game, I think. I'd be tempted to buy it, but i might as well make use of the real pool table I have to walk by to get to my Wii.


with this extra system i have, i am thinking of a mazda forums raffle for it, with proceeds going to charity, any thoughts?

Do gears come with such a raffle?

[Kooldino]

Can anyone tell me what ports this thing wants to see?... support.nintendo.com is down and I want to check out the shop channel. Need to configure the router but don't know what ports to use.

I would assume it worked via port 80, as I didn't have to open any specific ports for it.

[Kooldino]

I caught one but I don't think I put it back in the water.. maybe I did. It was a bitch to catch without any bait haha

Catch a fish at the dock near where the cat is. When you hit "A" to let it go, pull back on the controller. I somehow managed to get it to throw the fish behind me, and the cat went and grabbed it.

Screw that cat and that fat ass lady.

[Kansei]

I'd rather not make love to the kitty. I don't remember pressing A to drop the fish back in but I must have. I'll just go catch another and give it a try.

[505zoom]

Thanks Dana... I set up the router to do both g and b (instead of g only), and created a new port forwarding/triggering section for the wii... set ports 79 - 90 and it works fine.

[Kansei]

Oh it was G-only? Yeah I didn't think the wii did G, that would do it.

[Captain KRM P5]

Oh and on a side note, with all of the people that were turned away at the store, they could have sold 80 easily... wtf happened?... I thought they were supposed to be launching 4-5 times as many as sony did, and we only had 6 more nintendos at that store than ps3's. You damn big city folks hogged them all up I guess, haha.

they said between 3 to 4 million by christmas, compared to sony's 250,000 to 300,000 for the christmas season. my ps1 and ps2 were first gen units that crapped out on me within a year of each purchase. i think i will wait for the revisions to be made.

[Kansei]

Toys R Us - Waterbury, CT:
PS3 - 7 units
Wii - over 120 units.

The wal-mart and target I checked didn't have that many Wiis though, but they each only got a handful of PS3s.

It really depended on where you live. Someone could have walked up to the Toys R Us I got mine at 9:45AM sunday (15 minutes before they open, but long after the Targets and Wal-Marts in the area were already totally sold out) and gotten one, no pre-order needed. My roommate from Buffalo had him mom go to the Toys R Us there at like 6am and it was too late. Attempting to get a Wii in Rochester would have been a freakin joke. In Manhattan, way easy at the nintendo world store. They had 2-3 thousand excess units for the midnight launch. I'm going to assume they're all sold by now though.

[JDM-P5]

NOOOOO...don't say that Red Steel is aweful!!! I'm TOTALLY looking forward to playing that game. Don't bum me out!

[Kansei]

Reviews I've read have confirmed your worst nightmares in that case.

I haven't played the game myself but hope to at some point. Maybe I'll rent it when rental places start carrying Wii titles.

[terbow]

i just got red steel today. i like it. wahts so bad about it? i only played it for an hr tho. zelda owns me.

[slayer4u]

I decided to camp out with a friend of mine in the walmart parking lot and I picked one up about 6:30am yesterday. this thing is fucking awsome zelda is also fucking awsome. I'm going to pick up more games tomorrow.

[Captain KRM P5]

i just got red steel today. i like it. wahts so bad about it? i only played it for an hr tho. zelda owns me.

hey man tried calling you today, wanted to see how you like it all so far.

[Kooldino]

After another long day of Zelda, I'm finally past the first REAL dungeon with a real boss.

The new boomerang is fucking badass. Thank Christ I finally have 4 heart containers.

[Kooldino]

Zelda: Twilight Princess voted #2 game of all time (just trailing Zelda: Ocarina of Time)

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp

[Kansei]

So far I still like Zelda III: A Link to the Past more :)

but I'm still in the first village thing. I just got the cat to go into the shop and got my bottle haha. Yeah I haven't been playing much at all.

[Donas64]

How are the controls? I'll probably be getting this game for my Gamecube since I'm taking a wait and see approach with the Wii. Are the controls hard to get used to?

[terbow]

How are the controls? I'll probably be getting this game for my Gamecube since I'm taking a wait and see approach with the Wii. Are the controls hard to get used to?

I only have zelda and red steel but on zelda its really easy to get used to. A first its a lil wierd but u kinda just get wrapped up in the game and it comes naturally. Ill admit though, on long games, if the game isnt that good, i can see swinging your remote getting kinda boring. luckily zelda is great. im on the 2nd dungeon now (gorons woot), and i havent got tired of using the remote as a sword.

on red steel, the remote is VERY integral and its alot more complicated cause theres more 'moves' but its still not bad, just takes some getting used to just like a normal controller. and this is comeing from someone who doesnt play halo cause he cant aim with the 2nd analog, so this all new to me. might be second nature to some right handed analogers.

[terbow]

After another long day of Zelda, I'm finally past the first REAL dungeon with a real boss.

The new boomerang is fucking badass. Thank Christ I finally have 4 heart containers.

yea i noticed they really like to hide the heart containers now. the games not all that hard though, id like to see some more challenge, but its so damn enjoyable i dont mine breezing through it. its seriously one of the best games ive played as a whole experience. im trying to do all the side quests to, it makes it seem like a real adventure rather than just gettting to the end.

[terbow]

hey man tried calling you today, wanted to see how you like it all so far.

my phones dead, and the charger is at work. i suck. sorry.

[Kooldino]

my phones dead, and the charger is at work. i suck. sorry.

Cellphone's dead? (http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123651751&highlight=beck)

[Donas64]

yea i noticed they really like to hide the heart containers now. the games not all that hard though, id like to see some more challenge, but its so damn enjoyable i dont mine breezing through it. its seriously one of the best games ive played as a whole experience. im trying to do all the side quests to, it makes it seem like a real adventure rather than just gettting to the end.

I cannot wait to play Twilight Princess.

Red Steel has been getting some pretty brutal reviews. Are you enjoying it?

[gimpo2]

Is Redsteel lookin like the 360 equivilent of Perfect Dark?

[terbow]

I cannot wait to play Twilight Princess.

Red Steel has been getting some pretty brutal reviews. Are you enjoying it?

havent played rs much, ill have to get back to you on it.

[505zoom]

Almost 10 hours in... at the third twilight portion (past the lava temple). Awesome so far.

[Captain KRM P5]

my phones dead, and the charger is at work. i suck. sorry.

thou art forgiven