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BlueWolfCry

11-09-2006, 12:05 AM

Just checking, anyone preorder any ps3's or buy a preorder on ebay?

Me and a couple friends are gonna be camping out on the 16th...but I think I'm gonna be selling...they're going for $1500 on ebay right now! Anyone interested?

vcinsanity1523

11-09-2006, 12:20 AM

it looks sooooo sick and is rediculously powerful but a little to much money for me

lgagno1

11-09-2006, 12:29 AM

Yea, I'm camping out too. My buddy called me up to ask if I wanted to wait with him, so at least I won't be alone. I have 4 tests next week, so I'm gonna bring a 12 pack and drink until I have a ps3 in my hands.

gimpo2

11-09-2006, 12:38 AM

I thought this was pretty funny from the XBOX360 Anyone? thread.

yea, i wanted that [PS3] more....but its gonna be like another year before it comes out. So i'd figure i'd feed my HDTV something good now. Plus, I think microsoft really put a lot of thought into the system. While Sony has barely talked about theres. Also, i wanted to get into this Live phenomenon.

I believe it comes out in March of 06'. Sony thought into their machine > Microsoft thought into their machine
Dated 11/18/05

Oh how things have turned out

The Stage is set. This will be one hell of a year for gaming. I can't wait to see what happens. Will the PS3 be the best thing since sliced bread or while it bomb and spell the end for Sony? BluRay or HDDVD? $600 vs $400? @_@ OMG Wii!!!!!

mountjonas

11-09-2006, 01:41 AM

i'll wait until at least the summer to pick one up.

Thug541

11-09-2006, 03:35 AM

I thought this was pretty funny from the XBOX360 Anyone? thread.

Dated 11/18/05

Oh how things have turned out

The Stage is set. This will be one hell of a year for gaming. I can't wait to see what happens. Will the PS3 be the best thing since sliced bread or while it bomb and spell the end for Sony? BluRay or HDDVD? $600 vs $400? @_@ OMG Wii!!!!!

haha...yeah, That guy was silly wasn't he?

sanblaster

11-09-2006, 06:44 AM

Pyr0TeK

11-09-2006, 06:50 AM

Don't quote me boy I ain't said shit.

Ok Eazy-E ... heh. (old skool)

yashart@work

11-09-2006, 07:07 AM

I think I may go wait inline after work on thursday. Bring a sleeping bag and 12 pack

seanmcsean

11-09-2006, 07:09 AM

I flat out just don't have the money to buy one.. I'd like one, but it ain't happenin for a while.

yashart@work

11-09-2006, 07:29 AM

I flat out just don't have the money to buy one.. I'd like one, but it ain't happenin for a while.

Im buying it with the intention of selling it... :) Im sure you've got $600 free on a credit card somewhere

seanmcsean

11-09-2006, 07:35 AM

Im buying it with the intention of selling it... :) Im sure you've got $600 free on a credit card somewhere

oh sure I do..

my smallest credit card limit could purchase damn near 20 of those things.

The other limitation of my purchase is time. I don't have much of it to stand in line for one :)

evilmonkeyMSP

11-09-2006, 07:42 AM

I might be camoing out for one to put that bitch on Ebay...will be some nice extra christmas money in my pocket...

Pyr0TeK

11-09-2006, 11:25 AM

I might be camoing out for one to put that bitch on Ebay...will be some nice extra christmas money in my pocket...

(werd)

Lend me the $$$ and I'll do that same... heh.

CitizenPro

11-09-2006, 12:22 PM

Ill have mine on ebay 1st week of december, be on the look out! :D

habeansha

11-10-2006, 07:27 PM

yeah i think i might pick one up because i read somewhere that they would only have 400K available so there would be more demand for it and i could sell it and buy other stuffs

zoomzoom02

11-12-2006, 10:51 PM

I will end up getting one, but more like mid-next year, let all the bugs get worked out.

GreyMan

11-12-2006, 11:16 PM

this was on the news today, some interesting reading...

TOKYO (AP) — Sony's PlayStation 3 made its highly anticipated debut in Japan to long lines on Saturday, with local stores selling out their supplies of the video game console in a pattern that's expected to be repeated around the world.

Throngs of people lined up for hours around Bic Camera, an electronics retailer in downtown Tokyo, to get their hands on one of the consoles. The enthusiasm was so great, clerks with megaphones asked the crowd to stop pushing, warning that all sales would end if there were any injuries.

"Standing in line today is the only way to make sure I got one," said Takayuki Sato, 30, among the buyers who queued up at Bic Camera, snaking around the building in a complete circle.

But would-be buyers were turned away even before the store opened at 7 a.m. The retailer refused to say how many machines it had but said it had wrapped up sales of its entire supply by 1 p.m.

Short supplies were reported elsewhere, too. Sanae Saito, a clerk at Yodobashi Camera Co. chain, said her store's stock had already sold out Saturday morning, although she declined to say how many machines were available.

"It's all sold out with the people in line now," she said. "So many people waited in line."

Plagued with production problems, Sony Corp. has managed to ready only 100,000 PlayStation 3 machines in time for its debut in Japan. When it goes on sale in the United States on Nov. 17, some 400,000 PS3 consoles will be available there. The console's European launch has been pushed back until March.

It was not immediately clear whether the console sold out at all retailers, and Sony said that information would not be available for several days.

Ken Kutaragi, the head of Sony's game unit known as the "father of the PlayStation," said he was thrilled by the reception to the PS3.

"I am so happy so many people are waiting," he said in an informal countdown ceremony at Bic Camera. "Thank you for waiting from late last night. Please enjoy next-generation entertainment."

Powered by the new "Cell" computer chip and supported by the next-generation Blu-ray video disc format, the console delivers nearly movie-like graphics and a realistic gaming experience.

Sony will be losing money for a some time on each PS3 sold because of the high costs for research and production that went into the highly sophisticated machine.

Game makers, including Sony, must recoup the exorbitant development costs for the machines by selling software, and programming the PS3's cutting-edge hardware is an expensive and time-consuming task. Only five games were on sale for the PS3's Japan launch date.

Sony expects to lose $1.7 billion in its gaming division in the fiscal year through March 2007.

The red ink is coming at a time when the Japanese electronics and entertainment company, known for the Walkman portable audio player and "Spider-Man" movies, is struggling to stage a comeback.

In recent years, Sony has fallen behind in key products like flat-panel TVs and digital music players. But it has been making progress with a two-year revival by getting back to basics in its consumer electronics operations.

But a major fumble in its PS3 business could prove a huge blow at a time when it's seeing its brand image badly tarnished by a massive global recall of lithium-ion batteries for laptops.

In an unprecedented move, Sony slashed the price for the cheaper PS3 model in Japan ahead of its launch by 20 percent to about $420 in what some critics have scorned as a desperate effort to maintain market share in the face of intense competition with Nintendo Co.'s Wii console and Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360.

Wii goes on sale Nov. 19 in the U.S. and Dec. 2 in Japan. The Xbox 360 has had a year start.

Prices vary by retailer, but the more expensive model, with a 60-gigabyte drive, sells in Japan for about $510.

"It's a bit expensive, but I really wanted it," said Hirotoshi Iwadate, a 23-year-old hospital worker, clutching a big bag with his new PS3 after standing in line since 10 p.m. Friday. "I came here straight from work."

Tatsuya Mizuno, analyst for Fitch Ratings in Tokyo, believes it will be hard for Sony to maintain the 70 percent market share domination it has built with previous PlayStation consoles, and Sony will likely lose some of that market to rivals, especially Nintendo. Sony has sold more than 200 million PlayStation series machines over the years.

The PS3 was initially promised for worldwide sales for spring this year but was postponed in March to November. In September, the European sales date was delayed by another four months.

Although Sony is sticking to its plan to ship 6 million PS3 machines worldwide by the end of March next year, Mitsuhiro Osawa, analyst for Mizuho Investors Securities Co., thinks Sony may fall short of that target.

"There may not be enough machines to go around, and people will buy Wii and Xbox," Osawa said. "For all you know, it may take Sony five years to get back the money it's invested in PS3, even 10 years if it doesn't watch out."

Others were more upbeat.

Kazuharu Miura, analyst with Daiwa Institute of Research, said the initial losses weren't surprising and the PS3 business was likely to produce solid profits for Sony by 2008, even if the machine's market share may slide to as low as 60 percent.

"Success of a game machine doesn't depend on market share but on whether it can get a return on its investment," he said.

altspace

11-13-2006, 06:14 AM

"Sony expects to lose $1.7 billion in its gaming division in the fiscal year through March 2007".

Pyr0TeK

11-13-2006, 06:59 AM

"Sony expects to lose $1.7 billion in its gaming division in the fiscal year through March 2007".

Ya so?... That is becasue of how much they have invested into R&D to get this PS3 off the ground. They have also cut prices to try and sell and get some market share so they don't get squeezed out of the market by the Wii launching 2 days after the PS3 in the US. Like that article states, they need to mass produce and quick to get them in the hands of gamers before people can't buy one due to supply and demand and go with another console. Sony will take a beating up front but should overcome it if they can produce enough to handle the demand, which is not looking good. I want one. Critics rave about it being the most advanced game console created to date, plus all the functionality is awesome also. $2000 on eBay for one is flippin crazy though so I doubt I'll be able to get my hands on one for a while anyway. (shocked)

GreyMan

11-13-2006, 11:23 AM

i hope sony doesnt screw themselves again. they always come out with awesome technology and them, boom. They ought to do some hiring and firing in the right places imo.
If they are smart about it, they will make a ton more than what they've lost in r&d.

SLA

11-14-2006, 07:52 PM

Gamestop called me today and verified that I got my pre-order, and my cousin works at Wal-mart, and said when he gets off thurs. morning (2 or 3 am) he is going to go straight to get in line with a friend to pick another one up for me and one for him. Christmas money and a free ps3, just doesn't get any better.

sanblaster

11-15-2006, 12:34 PM

Wow.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061115/ap_on_hi_te/japan_playstation

sanblaster

11-15-2006, 12:37 PM

I also have heard that people especially at Best Buys around the U.S. are already camping out. Don't you guys have a life??? (poke)

evilmonkeyMSP

11-15-2006, 12:40 PM

I dont know why they reported this as some brilliant detective work....Sony said it wouldnt play them all...Wow.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061115/ap_on_hi_te/japan_playstation

sanblaster

11-15-2006, 12:41 PM

I dont know why they reported this as some brilliant detective work....Sony said it wouldnt play them all...

Interesting. I haven't heard about that until now..

gimpo2

11-15-2006, 12:42 PM

I also have heard that people especially at Best Buys around the U.S. are already camping out. Don't you guys have a life??? (poke)

2 more days left. seriously if you're not in line now you're not getting one unless you preordered.

Wow.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061115/ap_on_hi_te/japan_playstation

that indeed sucks. but who buy's a PS3 to play old games anyways.

evilmonkeyMSP

11-15-2006, 12:42 PM

yuh...

tunersteve

11-15-2006, 12:42 PM

I plan on camping out tomorrow afternoon. I've got several buddies that we're gonna spread out and test all of our options. I just want one to sell and make some money, so I can buy a new TV, pay off my credit card, and start saving for my MS3. Granted, one isn't gonna do that, but its a step in the right direction. Good luck to all on getting one.

evilmonkeyMSP

11-15-2006, 12:43 PM

(rei) thanks...GL to you too...

Best Buy is not the place to camp...but there are other places :)
I plan on camping out tomorrow afternoon. I've got several buddies that we're gonna spread out and test all of our options. I just want one to sell and make some money, so I can buy a new TV, pay off my credit card, and start saving for my MS3. Granted, one isn't gonna do that, but its a step in the right direction. Good luck to all on getting one.

susamafone

11-15-2006, 12:43 PM

went by the target here in town. there is already a line of about 8 people waiting outside the store for it. if you want one, and havent pre-ordered, i'd go get in line now.

sanblaster

11-15-2006, 12:44 PM

I'll wait till next year. Camping sounds ridiculous. People laugh at you when they walk past you. I know I and others do.

evilmonkeyMSP

11-15-2006, 12:45 PM

thats ok...they can laugh at me if that means its putting a possible $1k of profit in my pocket

sanblaster

11-15-2006, 12:46 PM

but who buy's a PS3 to play old games anyways.

Evilmonkey does. He told me he can't wait to play the original crash bandicoot on it....True story.

sanblaster

11-15-2006, 12:46 PM

thats ok...they can laugh at me if that means its putting a possible $1k of profit in my pocket

Hook me up with some cash and I won't laugh at you.................

................that much..

evilmonkeyMSP

11-15-2006, 12:47 PM

lol shut up you peen :p

Evilmonkey does. He told me he can't wait to play the original crash bandicoot on it....True story.

evilmonkeyMSP

11-15-2006, 12:48 PM

im sorry...the auto-driver says wha?Hook me up with some cash and I won't laugh at you.................

................that much..

sanblaster

11-15-2006, 12:48 PM

im sorry...the auto-driver says wha?

what?

gimpo2

11-15-2006, 12:48 PM

why you gotta be snooty about your transmission

evilmonkeyMSP

11-15-2006, 12:49 PM

cuz sans likes it when I bust on him about it :pwhy you gotta be snooty about your transmission

sanblaster

11-15-2006, 12:50 PM

why you gotta be snooty about your transmission

That is what I'm trying to tell evilmonkey.

sanblaster

11-15-2006, 12:55 PM

Anyways there is something more important that day. A certain superpower was born @ 4:44 in the morning. It would be nice that members pitched in and bought a certain person a certain system for a certain special day for a certain member on a certain car forum.. (first)

evilmonkeyMSP

11-15-2006, 12:55 PM

could you please be less specific?

gimpo2

11-15-2006, 12:56 PM

you want a wii?

sanblaster

11-15-2006, 12:56 PM

could you please be less specific?

I can.

sanblaster

11-15-2006, 12:57 PM

you want a wii?

I'm actually thinking of buying that first before the ps3. Just because it is cheaper.

seanmcsean

11-15-2006, 12:59 PM

If the wii's controller impresses me, I may give it a shot, especially for sports games :)

vindication

11-15-2006, 12:59 PM

cuz sans likes it when I bust on him
whoah, too much info. no need to be sharing this in a public forum. sick-o's!!

sanblaster

11-15-2006, 01:01 PM

whoah, too much info. no need to be sharing this in a public forum. sick-o's!!

(rlaugh)

sanblaster

11-15-2006, 01:02 PM

you want a wii?

Re-read post #42 and substitute the system.

evilmonkeyMSP

11-15-2006, 01:09 PM

(lol2) whoah, too much info. no need to be sharing this in a public forum. sick-o's!!

Pyr0TeK

11-15-2006, 01:22 PM

The PS3 will blow the damn doors off the Wii... but errrrrrr... camping out... hmmm... and spending $599+tax... umm... hmmm.... let's see.... carry the one... (yupnope)

evilmonkeyMSP

11-15-2006, 01:27 PM

like i said in another thread...I saw a comercial for some wii game the other day and the kid is waving the controller around becuase its a "sword" and I just thought the wii just looks like one of those things that would be fun for 30 mins & then I would pick up my PS2 remote...

GreyMan

11-15-2006, 01:35 PM

FYI....

TOKYO (AP) — Sony's new PlayStation 3 can't play some of the games designed for previous generations of the popular console, the latest misstep for the stumbling electronics company as it faces off in a crucial, three-way war with Nintendo and Microsoft.

Sony Corp., which has fallen behind in key products like flat-panel TVs and digital music players, badly needs a best-seller in the PS3. The console went on sale here to hoards of eager fans over the weekend, ahead of its U.S. release on Friday.

On Tuesday, the company acknowledged the console won't run some of the 8,000 titles designed for previous PlayStations — even though the PlayStation 3 was billed as being fully compatible with older-generation games.

For instance, the PS3 might not play background music to the popular "Tekken 5" combat game, and some scenes from the "Gran Tourismo" racing game might freeze, according to Sony. The game "Suikoden III" can't read data from a first-generation PlayStation, while a virtual gun in one of the "Biohazard" games won't fire properly.

Some older games won't run on the PS3 at all, according to Sony Computer Entertainment spokesman Satoshi Fukuoka. Online upgrades of the PS3 software will be offered, but it's unlikely that all the problems will ever get fixed, he said.

Fukuoka insisted that the company anticipated the incompatibilities and outlined them on its Japanese Web site on Nov. 11, when PS3 hit stores here. Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360, which debuted last year, has had similar problems with older games.

The PS3's compatibility problem is the latest in a series of setbacks for the console, which will compete with Nintendo Co.'s Wii and the Xbox 360. The Wii goes on sale Sunday in the U.S.

Sony's new console was initially promised for worldwide sales for spring this year but was postponed in March to November, and the European sales date has been delayed by another four months. Production problems have also meant only 100,000 PlayStation 3s were available for its debut in Japan over the weekend.

Sony also slashed the price for the cheaper PS3 model in Japan ahead by 20 percent to about $420 in what some critics described as a desperate effort to maintain its dominant market share. The more expensive model with a 60-gigabyte hard drive will cost about $600 in the U.S.

Demand in Japan has been strong. Unlike the lukewarm response here to Microsoft's Xbox 360, fans have snapped up the PS3, which is powered by the new "Cell" computer chip and supported by the next-generation Blu-ray video disc format to deliver nearly movie-like graphics.

Sony, led by Welsh-born American Howard Stringer, has a lot riding on the PS3. The once-pioneering electronics and entertainment company known for the Walkman portable audio player and Vaio laptops is in dire need of a hit.

Sony's brand image also has been badly tarnished by a massive global recall of lithium-ion batteries for laptop computers, which affected almost every major laptop maker in the world, including Dell Inc., Apple Computer Inc. and Lenovo Group Ltd.

Last month, Sony lowered its forecast for its fiscal 2006 group net profit by 38 percent to $680 million, citing costs for the battery recall and PS3 expenses, including the production problems and price cut.

sanblaster

11-15-2006, 01:37 PM

Yeah, yeah read post #18. And then post #23. And then #54.

GreyMan

11-15-2006, 01:38 PM

woops, guess i missed a few posts...my bad

Pyr0TeK

11-15-2006, 02:06 PM

(bang)

SLA

11-15-2006, 02:15 PM

Well I guess I'm not getting one to sell, my cousin just got to work and said there are already 10 people in line and all they have is 10 ps3's. Oh well I at least I still have my preorder.

We Are Ninja

11-15-2006, 02:22 PM

I've got a preorder. I reeeeeeeally want the system, but I watched a PS3 go for $2950.00 on Ebay last night around 10 (On average, they're going for $1750)... That's more than $2000 (or $1250) in profit. Selling it for that kind of profit really is tempting.

But I am t3h hardcore g4mer. I'm keeping that bish on 11/17.

zentrandi

11-15-2006, 02:23 PM

if all things work out i might camp out in the middle of some rich neighborhood best buy

gimpo2

11-15-2006, 02:27 PM

if all things work out i might camp out in the middle of some rich neighborhood best buy

you might be to late man

evilmonkeyMSP

11-15-2006, 02:27 PM

screw that...sell it & wait for the next shipment...I've got a preorder. I reeeeeeeally want the system, but I watched a PS3 go for $2950.00 on Ebay last night around 10 (On average, they're going for $1750)... That's more than $2000 (or $1250) in profit. Selling it for that kind of profit really is tempting.

But I am t3h hardcore g4mer. I'm keeping that bish on 11/17.

Jeph

11-15-2006, 02:40 PM

Ya so?... That is becasue of how much they have invested into R&D to get this PS3 off the ground. They have also cut prices to try and sell and get some market share so they don't get squeezed out of the market by the Wii launching 2 days after the PS3 in the US. Like that article states, they need to mass produce and quick to get them in the hands of gamers before people can't buy one due to supply and demand and go with another console. Sony will take a beating up front but should overcome it if they can produce enough to handle the demand, which is not looking good. I want one. Critics rave about it being the most advanced game console created to date, plus all the functionality is awesome also. $2000 on eBay for one is flippin crazy though so I doubt I'll be able to get my hands on one for a while anyway. (shocked)

I'm not sure they can get over the hurdle that the R&D has cost them. They haven't posted a profit in their electronics department in the last 5 years, and i'm sure this is putting them even more into the hole.
Blue Ray lasers are falling short of production numbers, and last i heard they didn't even have enough for the full US debut, so we are getting even fewer than initially expected.
Also they really haven't put a lot of thought into the online portion of the gaming experience.

Yet Hirai said he was not so worried digital devices and online entertainment options would necessarily divert consumers from video game consoles such as PS3.

Donas64

11-15-2006, 02:53 PM

Who are the numbskulls paying over 2000 grand for a freaking game system? I love gaming as much as the next guy but geez thats a little much!

sanblaster

11-15-2006, 02:54 PM

Who are the numbskulls paying over 2000 grand for a freaking game system? I love gaming as much as the next guy but geez thats a little much!

Same people who are buying bmw's for their kids.

evilmonkeyMSP

11-15-2006, 02:56 PM

(werd) I dont question it, especially if they will be buying mine...
Same people who are buying bmw's for their kids.

Donas64

11-15-2006, 02:58 PM

sanblaster

11-15-2006, 03:00 PM

But seriously, I understand it's their cash but thats just a little silly. 2K for a PS3?

2k to some people is equivalent to $.10.

To us it is 2K.

evilmonkeyMSP

11-15-2006, 03:01 PM

(werd) if you have a shit tone of money $2k is like buying a pack of gum...
2k to some people is equivalent to $.10.

To us it is 2K.

Donas64

11-15-2006, 03:05 PM

2k to some people is equivalent to $.10.

To us it is 2K.

Yeah I know. I'm not an envious person by nature. Heck I dream of and even desire the finer things in life but I know that thats not what matters the most. But I'd like to think that even if I WAS a multi-millionaire, I would not spend 2 G's on a game system much less $600. I might spend 2K on a turbo kit for my car though!(first) But seriously, I hope I'd still be fiscally responsible in a culture of excess.

Okay I'd buy an Aston Martin......USED!!!

Pyr0TeK

11-15-2006, 03:16 PM

If I was a multi-millionaire... I would have 1 in each of my guest rooms of my 3rd vacation home. Just like I spend every spare dime on my damn car... the same rules apply. You have it... you spend it... done and done.
Yeah I know. I'm not an envious person by nature. Heck I dream of and even desire the finer things in life but I know that thats not what matters the most. But I'd like to think that even if I WAS a multi-millionaire, I would not spend 2 G's on a game system much less $600. I might spend 2K on a turbo kit for my car though!(first) But seriously, I hope I'd still be fiscally responsible in a culture of excess.

Okay I'd buy an Aston Martin......USED!!!

evilmonkeyMSP

11-15-2006, 03:17 PM

(werd) why have all that money, not spend it to only die 7 leave it to someone else....no thanks...
If I was a multi-millionaire... I would have 1 in each of my guest rooms of my 3rd vacation home. Just like I spend every spare dime on my damn car... the same rules apply. You have it... you spend it... done and done.

GreyMan

11-15-2006, 03:37 PM

The day I spend 2 grand on a game system that doesn't at least do my taxes is the day I officially have more money than I know what to do with and I donate 20% of my wealth to charity.

But seriously, I understand it's their cash but thats just a little silly. 2K for a PS3?

Just silly.

dude, people were paying the same for the 360 when it came out. everytime the latest and greatest comes out, people go nuts.

Donas64

11-15-2006, 03:56 PM

(werd) why have all that money, not spend it to only die 7 leave it to someone else....no thanks...

I'm not saying I would not spend money if I had it. I'm just saying that in a world where MC hammer, Micheal Jackson, Elton John and so many other super rich people GO FREAKIN BROKE, I would like to make my money last and also while having fun, use it for worthwhile things.

I can't believe how many mega-rich people handle their money horribly and blow it all. So I think you can be super rich and still be financially responsible.

Donas64

11-15-2006, 04:11 PM

I think being wealthy also takes a certain mindset. Often times you'll see a lottery winner make an absolute mess out of their lives because they are not used to having so much money and burn through MILLIONS of dollars in a few years and sometimes even just months. They know nothing about investing, saving, money management e.t.c.

Sorry for going so off topic. Just my opinions.

neit_jnf

11-15-2006, 05:31 PM

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

girth

11-15-2006, 07:40 PM

went by the target here in town. there is already a line of about 8 people waiting outside the store for it. if you want one, and havent pre-ordered, i'd go get in line now.
You have got to be f-ing kidding me! They're gonna wait in line for a day and a half for it?? Unreal.

Snacks McGee

11-16-2006, 12:52 AM

Yeah....same here...people are already lining up at Fry's, Best Buy and Target. Hopefully they are there to make some money off the system, becuase the launch games are ass.

Donas64

11-16-2006, 08:49 AM

A guy paid 6 students at a local university here to stand in line for 3 days to pick up 6 PS3's for him.

vindication

11-16-2006, 09:38 AM

I feel like calling everyone of these stores, with massive lines of people outside that were camping, and right before they open call in a bomb threat so that everyone has to go home. fuckers!!

KronixKid22

11-16-2006, 09:43 AM

I feel like calling everyone of these stores, with massive lines of people outside that were camping, and right before they open call in a bomb threat so that everyone has to go home. fuckers!!

Hahaha, brilliant! (first)

vindication

11-16-2006, 09:46 AM

yeah, then I go there later on and be one of the first ones in line and here people complaining at me like, "man I was here for 36 hours, I should be up there", and then I´m like, "well dont you feel like an idiot, not my fault you're a loser"

ghettobubba2001

11-16-2006, 09:46 AM

(werd) if you have a shit tone of money $2k is like buying a pack of gum...

(werd) if you have a shitton of money $2k is like buying a pack of gum...

bahahhaa couldnt resist

evilmonkeyMSP

11-16-2006, 09:48 AM

wouldnt the proper way be shit ton....not shitton...shitton isnt a word...

CitizenPro

11-16-2006, 10:05 AM

I'm in line at frys electronics right now with about 14 people. all walmarts are targets are packed, its crazy. I'm just in it to win it! getting that extra cash.

evilmonkeyMSP

11-16-2006, 10:06 AM

lol nice...have they said if you're gonna get one?

CitizenPro

11-16-2006, 10:12 AM

they have 18 instock, and I'm number 8. So it looks like ill be pickin one up. I never thought I'd be sitting here with these geeks, I'm now a fuckin loser :)

evilmonkeyMSP

11-16-2006, 10:18 AM

thats ok...there is a presale on ebay that has multiple bids @ $2600....that should make you feel better lol...they have 18 instock, and I'm number 8. So it looks like ill be pickin one up. I never thought I'd be sitting here with these geeks, I'm now a fuckin loser :)

SaaBaaDoo

11-16-2006, 10:31 AM

I saw on the local news last night there is a bunch of people camping out at the Best Buy on the south side of Jacksonville. They guy that is first in line has been camping out there since SUNDAY!!!!! That's fucking crazy!

evilmonkeyMSP

11-16-2006, 10:36 AM

lol thats a bit excessive...

SaaBaaDoo

11-16-2006, 10:45 AM

no shit, that dude should have pre-ordered or just waited, then took a week off to play the damn thing! That is assuming he has a job. I don't get it.

But hey, if you got the time and money, right?

evilmonkeyMSP

11-16-2006, 10:49 AM

lol i suppose

seanmcsean

11-16-2006, 11:03 AM

these same idiots waiting in line are probably going to buy groceries with food stamps tomorrow, that is if they emerge from whatever dark place they are playing their new ps3.

vindication

11-16-2006, 11:31 AM

I hope the guy that has been there since sunday gets his PS3 stolen.....hopefully as soon as he leaves the store.

seanmcsean

11-16-2006, 11:37 AM

I hope the guy that has been there since sunday gets his PS3 stolen.....hopefully as soon as he leaves the store.

I'd have to take a day off from work if that happened. I would need time set aside for the proper amount of laughter.

vindication

11-16-2006, 11:37 AM

yeah, I'd piss my pants.

Shane5425

11-16-2006, 11:54 AM

i work at bby, we already have tents outside, the line will be outrageous...

seanmcsean

11-16-2006, 12:02 PM

i work at bby, we already have tents outside, the line will be outrageous...

I would love the opportunity to run through that line with a 13hp leaf blower.. goodbye tents.

noclue119

11-16-2006, 12:02 PM

Ill have mine on ebay 1st week of december, be on the look out! :D

I pre-ordered one from EB but i don't think i want it any more.
I'm never at home to play it and First gen machines always have problems.

Also that is assuming that EB gets enough to fill the pre-order. I guess we will see.

SaaBaaDoo

11-16-2006, 02:19 PM

I hope the guy that has been there since sunday gets his PS3 stolen.....hopefully as soon as he leaves the store.

(hahaspit)

low_psi

11-16-2006, 02:30 PM

A few buddies of mine have been camping since, get this, Tuesday evening. It's ridiculous. Their plan to sell them on eBay is fading since they'll have 3, but only one account to sell them with.

evilmonkeyMSP

11-16-2006, 02:32 PM

lol that sucks...i dotnt hink the 1 per account shit matters...i think that might have only been for preorders?A few buddies of mine have been camping since, get this, Tuesday evening. It's ridiculous. Their plan to sell them on eBay is fading since they'll have 3, but only one account to sell them with.

FrigginGLI

11-16-2006, 02:47 PM

Remember Atari Jaguar those were the good days.

girth

11-16-2006, 08:34 PM

I say it again - I'm gonna laugh my ass off when most of these ebay sellers realize there's a difference between getting someone to bid and getting someone to PAY. Check this out. I guess this means that all PS3s are worth $30,000+.
http://cgi.ebay.com/SONY-PLAYSTATION-3-PS3-60GB-PREMIUM-SYSTEM-PREORDER_W0QQitemZ270054974671QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6 2054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

meinp5

11-16-2006, 08:47 PM

I wonder why Ebay would care. The more that an item sells for the more they collect in fees.

A few buddies of mine have been camping since, get this, Tuesday evening. It's ridiculous. Their plan to sell them on eBay is fading since they'll have 3, but only one account to sell them with.

girth

11-16-2006, 08:55 PM

I wonder why Ebay would care. The more that an item sells for the more they collect in fees.
Because there are too many bogus bidders (see my post just above yours for 1 of many examples). Bogus bidders eventually piss off the sellers, sellers leave, and ebay goes *poof*.

In fact, look at this list of bidders for 1 PS3. Notice the "wonderful" feedback all of these bidders have....
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=270054974671

meinp5

11-16-2006, 09:07 PM

Yea I can understand that...sucks if you do get your hands on 2 or 3 of them somehow. I had problems selling my PSP with scammers trying to get me to ship to all kinds of foreign countries.

Because there are too many bogus bidders (see my post just above yours for 1 of many examples). Bogus bidders eventually piss off the sellers, sellers leave, and ebay goes *poof*.

In fact, look at this list of bidders for 1 PS3. Notice the "wonderful" feedback all of these bidders have....
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=270054974671

wmbeaver

11-16-2006, 09:39 PM

jlucido7( 0 ) US $30,300.00 Nov-16-06 14:32:19 PST

um, wow?!?!?!?!!?!?

wtf, 30k, that does seem a little bogus, i mean you could get an MS3 for that, and then some

Revs

11-16-2006, 09:46 PM

Camping in line for days just for a PS3 to me is retarded, I'll wait for the news headlines tomorrow saying someone got shot fighting over a PS3.

mountjonas

11-16-2006, 11:19 PM

hmm, the east coast people should be getting theirs soon.

ChopstickHero

11-16-2006, 11:27 PM

so who got one? it's past midnight EST!

VermZ06

11-16-2006, 11:42 PM

People are f*cking crazy!!! I was just at wal-mart to see how many people were actually waiting outside because none of the wal-marts around south western CT are open 24/7. The line was actually not long at all, probably 5-10 people, but looks like a lot of people are going to have to wait in the storm until 9AM when the doors open. There are a bunch of crazy bastards in tents flying around in this tsunami we're having right now.

Just a side note:

People should check out sears tomorrow. A lot of people don't realize they actually still sell video games.

Tengo

11-17-2006, 12:02 AM

i work next to a Best Buy. went over to check it out today on my lunch break and ive never seen a campout like that be4, atleast 10 tents were up. most retardest thing ive ever seen.

Revs

11-17-2006, 08:18 AM

Don't these people have jobs to go to?

evilmonkeyMSP

11-17-2006, 08:20 AM

lol guess not

seanmcsean

11-17-2006, 08:45 AM

my guess is a resounding "no"

Revs

11-17-2006, 08:52 AM

Just as I predicted.

From CNN.com
"In Connecticut, two armed thugs who got wise to the PS3's high price and tried to rob a line of people waiting outside a Putnam Wal-Mart store at 3 a.m. One person who refused to give up the money was shot, state police said. In Lexington, Kentucky, four people waiting outside a Best Buy were hit by BB pellets, though none was seriously injured, according to television station WKYT, whose own reporter was hit as she interviewed buyers."

seanmcsean

11-17-2006, 08:54 AM

It wasn't me (eekdance)

evilmonkeyMSP

11-17-2006, 08:56 AM

people that do shit like that are sick...no matter the circumstances...

seanmcsean

11-17-2006, 08:57 AM

yeah, when it all comes down to it, you have to remember, ITS A FREAKING VIDEO GAME CONSOLE. SIMMA DOWN NA!

SLA

11-17-2006, 10:54 AM

Just got back with mine about 20 mins ago. No line what so ever. Only one other person was in the store playing a game. Took me 10 mins from the time I left my work parking lot til I got back (Gamestop is right down the street).

sanblaster

11-17-2006, 10:55 AM

Foolish

11-17-2006, 11:00 AM

I want to go to a gamestop (or similar) this afternoon and see if I can put in a pre-order for a PS4!! :D

SLA

11-17-2006, 11:06 AM

Nice.. Didn't even have to bring your camping gear.
I know, I'm just glad I didn't have to bring a gun or a bat.

I want to go to a gamestop (or similar) this afternoon and see if I can put in a pre-order for a PS4!! :D
Too late I already reserved them all. (lol2)

SNike05

11-17-2006, 11:21 AM

Seeing how much the PS3 priuce right now is being inflated by people with 0 feedback. Item number 190051710035 just sold apparantly ligitimately for $15,100 USD. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

meinp5

11-17-2006, 11:34 AM

I do you know if its ligitimate or not?

Seeing how much the PS3 priuce right now is being inflated by people with 0 feedback. Item number 190051710035 just sold apparantly ligitimately for $15,100 USD. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

SlowPro98

11-17-2006, 11:41 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/17/playstation.ap/index.html

(ughdance)

Protege5Gurly

11-17-2006, 01:21 PM

Donas64

11-17-2006, 01:31 PM

Sonys lack of good launch titles and the level of difficulty of programming for the PS3 and Sonys arrogance will continue to bite them in the butt....for now. Once developers figure this thing out. The games are going to look SICK!

But MS is not playing around this time and they are going to give SONY a run for their money and at least for right now, the XBOX 360 has a big leg up.

susamafone

11-17-2006, 01:34 PM

people are trying to sell it for 5K+. i dont know if there are people who are actually that pathetic.

sanblaster

11-17-2006, 01:35 PM

Wow yahoo news has a ton of coverage on violence/ps3 incidents all over the U.S. People are just stupid.

CitizenPro

11-17-2006, 01:35 PM

gimpo2

11-17-2006, 02:10 PM

Picked mine up this morning, and ill be watching the market for a bit to see how everything pans out. I may put mine up on ebay first week of december. I bought mine through frys electronics and had to purchase 8 games along with the console. Burned my pocket for $1200! It'll be worth it in the end i suppose.

damn dude thats fucking ridiculous. are there 8 good PS3 games out now? Purchasing the games kind of makes it a loss for you since you for sure won't be able to sell those at a profit or maybe even what you paid.

SLA

11-17-2006, 02:29 PM

Need For Speed Carbon

-PS3: 7.9

-xbox 360: 8.2

ign comment:

Visually, the PlayStation 3 version of Need for Speed Carbon falls short of its Xbox 360 counterpart. The two games run at roughly the same framerate, but the PS3's filtering effects, specifically the blurring, can be ugly.

Call of Duty 3: by Gamespot

Ps3: 8.2

xbox360: 8.8

"It is missing a couple of features that its Xbox 360 counterpart contains, and the frame rate is far less reliable in this version"

Marvel Ultimate Alliance

-PS3: 7.9

-360: 8.2

ign comment:

Oh, and just for argument's sake, we popped in the 360 version of Ultimate Alliance to compare and we have to say... the PS3 edition just isn't as polished. Comparatively, there's a lot more framerate stutter with our game compared to theirs (expect hiccups when turning the camera in highly-populated areas) and the colors are deeper and seem to be in better contrast with the 360.

Tony Hawk Project 8

-PS3 7.0

-xbox360 7.8

ign comment:

It's certainly disappointing that the PlayStation 3 is so far behind the Xbox 360 game. Framerate issues are apparent at every other turn, and the lack of online play really hurts. Project 8 is a worthy game to pick up, just preferably not on this system.
Yeah, but unless you buy the external hd dvd drive for the 360 (about $200) thats as good as the 360 games are going to get. Just wait and see ps3 is going to blow the 360 out of the water , unless like I said you shell out another $200 of the hd dvd drive, which puts the 360 in the same price range as the ps3. I don't really care about xbox and never really have, my cousin usually gets all the other systems so I usually just play his if I feel the need.
As much people try bashing the ps3 you'd think George Bush made the thing. (lol2)

sanblaster

11-17-2006, 02:32 PM

As much people try bashing the ps3 you'd think George Bush made the thing. (lol2)

What??? He didn't make them?

gimpo2

11-17-2006, 02:40 PM

What??? He didn't make them?

Hell no! Al Gore did

Protege5Gurly

11-17-2006, 02:51 PM

gimpo2

11-17-2006, 02:54 PM

IWell yea, if the HD wars were settled ... more studios seem to be going HD DVD than Blu Ray anyway :)

The format the porn industry decides to use will be the winner.

Donas64

11-17-2006, 03:07 PM

As much people try bashing the ps3 you'd think George Bush made the thing. (lol2)

People usually get upset when you:

Over Promise
Underperform
Have MASSIVE shipment shortages
Have a SKY HIGH price point
Are a pain in the but to work with
Don't supply enough DEV kits
e.t.c

If Sony loses this set of the console wars, they have no one but themselves to blame.

sanblaster

11-17-2006, 03:09 PM

I agree with Donas. So far they have really screwed it up.

evilmonkeyMSP

11-17-2006, 03:12 PM

i dont care...i'll never go to 360...

sanblaster

11-17-2006, 03:14 PM

i dont care...i'll never go to 360...

Same here. I will wait. I have more time than money.

RallyeRedSi

11-17-2006, 03:38 PM

anybody read the crazy stories on ps3 launch? riots, shootings, injuries, sky high ebay prices oh my. Also i read the Sony is takin $240 loss on on PS3.

Shane5425

11-17-2006, 03:41 PM

sanblaster

11-17-2006, 03:45 PM

anybody read the crazy stories on ps3 launch? riots, shootings, injuries, sky high ebay prices oh my.

Crazy huh? People are dumb.

Donas64

11-17-2006, 03:46 PM

they are taking a loss, but not hardware wise... they are loosing in R&D, they wont make a profet until 2008 on the system.. they will lose 1.something billion dollars intially, but make alot more in the long run, if they can get the system out faster.

I thought they were taking a loss on the hardware also. I wouldn't surprise me seeing what the standalone Blue-Ray players go for!

sanblaster

11-17-2006, 03:47 PM

I wouldn't surprise me seeing what the standalone Blue-Ray players go for!

I think about 1k.

RallyeRedSi

11-17-2006, 03:47 PM

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061116-8239.html

Market research firm iSuppli has torn down the PlayStation 3 to see what's inside. In doing so, iSuppli confirmed what we reported back in February: the PS3 is expensive to manufacture and Sony is taking a serious hit on each console sold.

Describing the PS3 as an "engineering masterpiece," iSuppli estimates that the more expensive $599 console costs $840.35 to build, leaving Sony with a $241.35 loss on each console. The picture is worse for the cheaper, $499 version. Sony takes a hit of $306.85 per $499 console sold, due primarily to the lack of any substantial savings from the hardware differences between the two versions of the PS3. For instance, the 40GB difference in hard drive space between the two versions of the PS3 only saves Sony $11 and omitting 802.11b/g on the cheaper console only saves Sony an additional $15.50.

iSuppli's teardown report shows three big cost centers for the PS3. Topping the list is the Reality Synthesizer from NVIDIA, which handles the PS3's graphics. According to iSuppli, Sony's cost for that chip is $129. Sony's decision to outfit the PS3 with Blu-ray costs $125 per unit, while the Cell CPU from IBM runs $89. Miscellaneous other components and manufacturing costs add another $148 to the total; the rest of the costs are broken out in the chart below.

Data source: iSuppli

If Sony is steering gamers towards the high-end PS3, it certainly makes sense from a cost standpoint as the consumer electronics giant's losses are much less on the $599 console. It also means that the major price drop for the lower-priced console for the Japanese market that Sony announced in September is an especially bitter pill for the company to swallow. With the console selling for approximately $402 in Japan at current exchange rates, Sony is losing almost $400 per low-end unit sold there.

iSuppli points out that money-losing consoles are not uncommon, with sales of games and services making up for the loss. With that in mind, the research firm says that "the size of Sony’s loss per unit is remarkable, even for the video-game console business."

Shane5425

11-17-2006, 03:52 PM

ahh, so my source of where the hit was is wrong.. still taking a big hit though, didnt the xbox also take a big hit??

RallyeRedSi

11-17-2006, 03:54 PM

from same link as above

Making a buck on the Xbox 360

It's a gloomy picture, but there is light at the end of the tunnel. When iSuppli tore down an Xbox 360 around this time last year, the firm estimated that Microsoft was losing $126 on each 360 sold. Microsoft is whistling a much happier tune now. Revised component costs for the Xbox 360 indicate that costs have dropped to the point where each $399 Xbox 360 sold costs $323.30 to make—leaving Microsoft $75.70 in the black on each system, before marketing and other costs are figured into the equation.

The two biggest points of contrast between the PS3 and Xbox 360 in terms of component costs are what iSuppli calls the "motherboard"—CPU, GPU, memory, controllers, etc.—and the optical drive. The PS3's "motherboard" costs $500 for Sony, while the Xbox 360 motherboard is only $200—down from a $370 figure at launch. The Xbox 360's vanilla DVD optical drive is only $19.45, over $100 cheaper than the Blu-ray's price tag.

As we said in May, Sony's decision to use the PS3 to gain a Blu-ray beachhead is an expensive one. If the PS3 sells like gangbusters once the supply constraints evaporate sometime in the first half of 2007 and Blu-ray wins the battle against HD DVD, the decision will have been worth it.

In the short-term, Sony's earnings will take a hit for fiscal year 2006. Longer-term? Manufacturing costs will drop and some day Sony will even make a few bucks on each PS3 sale.

sanblaster

11-17-2006, 03:56 PM

I'm still confused with the difference between HD-DVD and blue ray. I thought they were the same thing.

RallyeRedSi

11-17-2006, 03:56 PM

Crazy huh? People are dumb.

yeah when i wa sa kid i ain't never hear people getting shot over a snes

seanmcsean

11-17-2006, 03:57 PM

blu-ray sounds cooler.

sanblaster

11-17-2006, 03:57 PM

yeah when i wa sa kid i ain't never hear people getting shot over a snes

Because when they came out everyone could buy one.

RallyeRedSi

11-17-2006, 03:57 PM

I'm still confused with the difference between HD-DVD and blue ray. I thought they were the same thing.

http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/

sanblaster

11-17-2006, 04:01 PM

http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/

Thanks for the link.

evilmonkeyMSP

11-17-2006, 04:01 PM

HD DVD = 720p
Blue-Ray = 1080i

seanmcsean

11-17-2006, 04:02 PM

Snes - 1
Ps3 - 0

RallyeRedSi

11-17-2006, 04:02 PM

Thanks for the link.

no prob, another look 360vsPS3

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35459

MICROSOFT'S Xbox 360 and Sony's soon to be seen PS3 are much of a muchness according to games developer, Denis Dyack.

In an interview with Game Daily,Dyack, who is president of Silicon Knights, said the 360 and the PS3 were are equal in power.

While the PS3 had more processing power, the 360 had more available memory, he said. There is potentially more power in the PS3 but it was harder for developers to tap and might as well not be there.

The public might think that the PS3 was better, but to developers, they both looked the same, Dyack said.

Of course the PS3 will end up costing punters a lot more so really his comments are a bit of win for Microsoft.

He said that Microsoft was looking really good. "In the beginning, everyone thought Sony would walk away with it, now we will not know sure for two years," he said. As far as the Wii is concerned, Dyack said that a lot would depend on whether its controller does not break over

sanblaster

11-17-2006, 04:06 PM

Never been a fan of xbox. Don't think I will ever be. I will buy both the wii and ps3 but probably not until next year and by then I will see if either system is worth buying. The wii I would buy just for Zelda at the moment and as for the PS3 games, what are they again?

RallyeRedSi

11-17-2006, 04:10 PM

i was never a fan of xbox either but playing a couple FPs on their systme changed my mind

SLA

11-17-2006, 04:16 PM

People usually get upset when you:

Over Promise
Underperform
Have MASSIVE shipment shortages
Have a SKY HIGH price point
Are a pain in the but to work with
Don't supply enough DEV kits
e.t.c

If Sony loses this set of the console wars, they have no one but themselves to blame.
Over Promise
I have to assume you're talking about how many units they said would be shipped. And it seems to me Microsoft did the same thing.
Underpreform
How has the ps3 underpreformed? Seems to me the game developers have under preformed so far.
Have sky high price point
The technology and hardware that is in the ps3 is worth way more than they're charging
ahh nevermind I don't feel like arguing.

RallyeRedSi

11-17-2006, 04:26 PM

more violence

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PLAYSTATION_SHOOTING?SITE=ORBEN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Tengo

11-17-2006, 04:33 PM

there should of been cops there. there was one at the best buy next door to where i work at.

gimpo2

11-17-2006, 04:37 PM

HD DVD = 720p
Blue-Ray = 1080i
Wrongo buddy both do 1080p

sanblaster

11-17-2006, 04:39 PM

Wrongo buddy both do 1080p

What!!!!!!!!!! Evilmonkey is NEVER wrong. It has to be a misunderstanding..

gimpo2

11-17-2006, 04:40 PM

What!!!!!!!!!! Evilmonkey is NEVER wrong. It has to be a misunderstanding..

hahahah the misunderstanding is with you and thinking that he is never wrong

evilmonkeyMSP

11-17-2006, 04:41 PM

b00 i am the all knowing!!!!

neit_jnf

11-17-2006, 04:41 PM

HD DVD = 720p
Blue-Ray = 1080i

Wrong, they both support 1080p and digital 7.1 audio. The differences are in data capacity and transfer speeds.

HD-DVD can store 15GB per layer, all movies released so far use double layer 30GB discs but there are also triple layer 45GB discs available. Maximum combined transfer rate for video and audio is 36.55 Mbit/s

Blu-ray can store 25GB per layer, all movies released so far and PS3 games use double layer 50GB discs but there are also six-layer 200GB discs available. Maximum combined transfer rate for video and audio is 54 Mbit/s

(info taken from wikipedia articles)

sanblaster

11-17-2006, 04:41 PM

hahahah the misunderstanding is with you and thinking that he is never wrong

(rofl2) (rofl2)

Donas64

11-17-2006, 05:03 PM

Over Promise
I have to assume you're talking about how many units they said would be shipped. And it seems to me Microsoft did the same thing.
Underpreform
How has the ps3 underpreformed? Seems to me the game developers have under preformed so far.
Have sky high price point
The technology and hardware that is in the ps3 is worth way more than they're charging
ahh nevermind I don't feel like arguing.

You really can't argue against the truth. Seriously I wish all the systems luck and I think all 3 have something to offer but let me help you with my statements:

Over Promise:
They had hyped up the system to the high heavens claiming revolutionary graphics e.t.c Granted these are just first gen games but when you talk as much hooey as sony did, you better be able to back it up especially when you have stiff and cheaper competition. By not having enough systems available at launch, you leave the door wide open for your competition to grab your market share.

Underperform:
Launch Lineup is crap, Graphics (I KNOW THEY ARE FIRST GEN GAMES BUT STILL) are lagging behind the XBOX 360 even though thats sure to change in the future. Developers say that using the systems full resources is very difficult. But given time I'm sure we'll see it do amazing things
Have MASSIVE shipment shortages

Have a SKY HIGH price point:
You and I know that the PS3 is actually somewhat of a bargain considering the tech in it. But to your average consumer, $600 bucks is a lot to shell out for a glorified high buck DVD player. Especially if the games aren't up to snuff. Plus if Blu-Ray doesn't become the industry standard.........
Are a pain in the but to work with

Don't supply enough DEV kits:
Publishers can't polish the all important launch titles and can't get enough seat time with the hardware. Still the PS2 overcame these disadvantages but this time the ocmpetition is much stiffer.

The PS3 will be a force to be reckoned with. The brand identity and Brandname are just too strong to be ignored. All I'm saying is that its sonys battle to lose, and they seem to be doing everything possible to lsoe it.

Tengo

11-17-2006, 05:07 PM

Jeph

11-17-2006, 05:10 PM

Yeah, but unless you buy the external hd dvd drive for the 360 (about $200) thats as good as the 360 games are going to get. Just wait and see ps3 is going to blow the 360 out of the water , unless like I said you shell out another $200 of the hd dvd drive, which puts the 360 in the same price range as the ps3. I don't really care about xbox and never really have, my cousin usually gets all the other systems so I usually just play his if I feel the need.
As much people try bashing the ps3 you'd think George Bush made the thing. (lol2)

A) you can get a hard drive for the 360 for $100 or less.
B) The harddrive isn't required to play any games except old xbox games, you can buy a little memory card to save your game on.
C) All chips in all 3 new systems are made by IBM, Yes the PS3 may have the newest "cell" processor, but none of the systems have had games that bring their full potential to the table, so there is room for both to grow. And until someone takes the time, and money to tap the cell processors ability you aren't going to see games any better than the 360.
D)Sony has lost almost all of its exclusives, so there really isn't a reason to get a PS3. GT4 wasn't all that impressive on the PS2, i enjoyed GT3 much more.

I don't have either system, but I would buy a 360 for lots of reasons.
Looks more visually appealing
Live content
HALO 3

noclue119

11-17-2006, 05:17 PM

both system sux. I refuse to buy one. Instead i put my $600 into IBM and nvidia

well ok maybe a little more then 600
but yes it made a quite a few dollars :)

Jeph

11-17-2006, 05:19 PM

both system sux. I refuse to buy one. Instead i put my $600 into IBM and nvidia

well ok maybe a little more then 600
but yes it made a quite a few dollars :)

Now theres the right thinking. You can make money and you didn't have to stand in line, and fight to get PS3. If i had realized that all 3 consoles were using IBM chips earlier, i would've done the same thing.

SLA

11-17-2006, 05:22 PM

A) you can get a hard drive for the 360 for $100 or less.
B) The harddrive isn't required to play any games except old xbox games, you can buy a little memory card to save your game on.
C) All chips in all 3 new systems are made by IBM, Yes the PS3 may have the newest "cell" processor, but none of the systems have had games that bring their full potential to the table, so there is room for both to grow. And until someone takes the time, and money to tap the cell processors ability you aren't going to see games any better than the 360.
D)Sony has lost almost all of its exclusives, so there really isn't a reason to get a PS3. GT4 wasn't all that impressive on the PS2, i enjoyed GT3 much more.

I don't have either system, but I would buy a 360 for lots of reasons.
Looks more visually appealing
Live content
HALO 3
I said nothing about a hard drive. The xbox 360 has a normal dvd drive. no hd(high definition not hard drive) dvd at all. In order to get it you have to buy a separate hd dvd drive thats will cost around $200. Even then hd dvd can't hold as much info as blue ray.
And as far as halo goes I'm more of a Metal Gear man my self. Sony has the playstation store for the ps3 (who knows how that will work out though) and as far as you saying the 360 is more visually appealing, thats your personal opinion.

Jeph

11-17-2006, 05:27 PM

Donas64

11-17-2006, 05:59 PM

why the hell are we getting into the technical aspects of it? who cares? video game consules are meant to play video games. who cares if it has a special dvd/bluray thing, for that u buy a dvd player. u play these things for the video games.

I'm with you %100 percent man. But thats just not the case anymore. The last console maker thatis focused purely on the games is Nintendo.

If Microsoft and ESPECIALLY Sony had their way, the 360 and the PS3 would replace every bit of hardware in your house except your TV. These guys want the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray to succeed so that they can reap the profits of having hte dominant storage medium. The games are what sell the systems but in the future they will be just a little part of what these systems do. They are becoming more and more like PC's. Now we have downloadable content on console games and HECK even patches. Whats next? Developers releasing half-baked copies of games and requiring you to download multiple patches to fix, You having to pay for extra or hidden content in a game you already paid $60 for? Having to purchase a bigger HD for your console that you already shelled out $400 for if you want to get it's full performance? I'd always loved the oure plug-n-play nature of home consoles. You bought it, you bought a game, you played it, it worked! It was all there. Not anymore. Such is life!

girth

11-17-2006, 06:03 PM

If its anything like the PS2 then they will rely on the game manufacturer to provide the support for online gaming, which sucks because then you pay a monthly fee per game you want to play online...
I've played a lot of PS2 games online, and never paid a time to do any of it. Nearly all of them were free of fees.

Donas64

11-17-2006, 06:04 PM

I know :)

Metal gear was a great game i agree, i've gone through my progression of FPS from early bond, metal gear, halo, even CS on the PC, and halo has been my favorite.

As far as the Playstation store, I was more refering to the ability to pick any game and go online and get matched up and play other people. If its anything like the PS2 then they will rely on the game manufacturer to provide the support for online gaming, which sucks because then you pay a monthly fee per game you want to play online...

Thereis not doubt about it that MS made a birlliant move with LIVE! Its the industry standard for online console gaming and if I were getting a 360, live would be a big part of the draw for me. I wish Sony and Nintendo woujld adopt similar online setups. Although the Wii's Virtual console seems like it will be a lot of fun.

girth

11-17-2006, 06:09 PM

who cares if it has a special dvd/bluray thing, for that u buy a dvd player. u play these things for the video games.
Not me and likely many others. The PS3 is the cheapest blu-ray player currently BY FAR, and if people want to get a blu-ray player a good number of them might get the cheapest one available (i.e. the PS3).

ChopstickHero

11-17-2006, 06:09 PM

i think it's actually dumb to shell out over $600 for a console when you know it'll drop in price in less than 6 months. usually the release lineup is quite shitty and you're stuck with crappy games that you paid a premium for. unless you're in it to make money by selling it for more, be smart and just wait for it to drop in price. unless of course, you think you're the coolest kid on the block with the latest gadgets. don't worry, soon you and every kid on your street will have one.

girth

11-17-2006, 06:12 PM

jdm4lyf9

11-17-2006, 06:22 PM

we are suppose to be getting a few more here in Va in early dec. I am going to buy 3 of them. Keep one and sell the other 2 for about 2 grand a piece.

Donas64

11-17-2006, 08:07 PM

Is there any proof that PS3's are acutally being SOLD for 2 grand.

Just cuz someone bids on ebay does not mean that they are buying.

girth

11-17-2006, 08:43 PM

Is there any proof that PS3's are acutally being SOLD for 2 grand.

Just cuz someone bids on ebay does not mean that they are buying.
No there is no proof....and yet these people are thinking they're going to make a mint. Apparently they haven't seen the auction I posted where 1 PS3 "sold" for $30,300. I guess they'll get the hint when they have 3 PS3s and they can only truly sell them for $550 + shipping.

Tengo

11-17-2006, 08:45 PM

i bet no ones played it yet, and is just waiting or trying to sell it for a million dollars! wtf has this world come too?

protegeV

11-17-2006, 08:52 PM

the best buy near me made people line up at the other end of the parking lot along the curb(about 100 yards from the front door) and run into the store "1 by 1" (yeah right)...needless to say a massive brawl broke out and several people were arrested. funny though

evilmonkeyMSP

11-17-2006, 08:53 PM

lol sounds like they did that on purpose knowing the outcome, all for comedic affect

protegeV

11-17-2006, 08:55 PM

haha, yeah...cops didn;t think it was funny though. I think the store management got into some kind of trouble for it.

evilmonkeyMSP

11-17-2006, 08:56 PM

nice

NoRotor,NoMotor

11-17-2006, 10:45 PM

what a bunch of fucking morons some people are. all this crap just to make a few bucks. maybe if they spent the same amount of time looking for better jobs they wouldnt need to make money off of childrens toys

another reason to hate sony, they shouldnt even sell a single console until they have millions to sell. if i was a sony rep i would feel like shit knowing my product caused so many problems and maybe even deaths, shame on sony i will never buy another sony product again

Undercover

11-17-2006, 11:00 PM

some morons smash his PS3 .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CTy7Nx0oPI

RODSCALIP5

11-17-2006, 11:10 PM

some morons smash his PS3 .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CTy7Nx0oPI

LOL!

Prodigy

11-17-2006, 11:24 PM

Some kid at my highschool bought 10 PS3 units at the wholesale price and sold 6 of them for $2000 and 4 of them for $1800 the first 5 hours they were out.

He ended up with a $15k+ profit...
and he's just a normal high school student with connections through his dad.

I know what I'm going to do when the PS4 comes out...

Simpletons101

11-17-2006, 11:40 PM

People are Nuts

Undercover

11-18-2006, 01:39 AM

Undercover

11-18-2006, 01:41 AM

People are Nuts

12,100 for 1 PS3 ?? go fuk yourself......lol

low_psi

11-18-2006, 01:43 AM

So of my 4 friends that stood in line since Tuesday:
$600 for his 60GB spot
$500 for his 20GB spot
Bought a 60GB she'll sell on eBay
His 60GB spot was passed down because his credit card was declined(random problem he has with it, but BestBuy wouldn't let him run anyone else's card or resolve the issue with his card company)

mountjonas

11-18-2006, 01:49 AM

man, people are impatient as hell these days.

Donas64

11-18-2006, 09:17 AM

idiocy. Just plain idiocy

meinp5

11-18-2006, 10:16 AM

I bet the next new eppisode of MTV Cribs all the rap guys are going to be showing their PS3 they got on launch day for $30,000. Lol...but they were the first to get it.

Demoniam

11-18-2006, 12:14 PM

Prodigy

11-19-2006, 05:57 PM

i wish i had $6000+ for 10 PS3 ! ......
He only spent somewhere around $5000 straight out of his college fund.
Needless to say he's going to a better college + trading his car in for a used 350z pretty soon.

Undercover

11-20-2006, 03:20 AM

He only spent somewhere around $5000 straight out of his college fund.
Needless to say he's going to a better college + trading his car in for a used 350z pretty soon.

that's not fair.....(pissed)

seanmcsean

11-20-2006, 05:32 AM

I'll say it again.. the whole ps3/wii situation is just out of control.. I enjoy video games as much as the next guy, but this is just effing insane. its a video game.

altspace

11-20-2006, 06:10 AM

Ah yes, products of our own "got to have it now no matter what" society. So sad indeed. Mo' money...mo' money....mo' money.

Donas64

11-20-2006, 09:36 AM

I'll say it again.. the whole ps3/wii situation is just out of control.. I enjoy video games as much as the next guy, but this is just effing insane. its a video game.

Umm I don't know about the Wii situation being insane. I have not heard about any shootings or beatings surrounding the Wii launch. The difference is that Nintendo manufactued more than enough Wii's to go around, but Sony didn't make nearly enough PS3s to go around so people were doing crazy stuff to get one. As long as no one gets hurt, it's their time and if gaming is a hobby for them I see nothing wrong with it. If you really wanted a PS3 on launch day, you would have had to camp out for a few days. As for the Wii, I'm sure I could pick one up in a few days if I wanted too but I'm just gunna hold on for now.

altspace

11-20-2006, 09:49 AM

Sony's push to get product out the door before Nintendo. That's it and no thanks, I have patience. I like my PS2, it's a fun system and been reviewing the PS3 and BluRay technology for quite sometime. The debate is still in the works so why rush in?

zoomzoom02

11-20-2006, 08:53 PM

Launch here in tucson az
Hundreds of people waiting all day, and they raffle off 5 of them!
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1441741037

wmbeaver

11-20-2006, 09:11 PM

Played the MotorStorm Demo in Target yesterday. What a beautiful game. ps3's controller feels lighter, and the shoulder buttons are more comfortable than ps2...

Also, the ps3 is a HUGE freaking machine! I thought the 360 took up room, but this thing is ginormous!

yea, the motion sensor is really sensitive too, i love the smoothness of the game and the physics of it are pretty cool too

duMb KeoLa

11-21-2006, 02:54 PM

so whats up with the ps3? ive heard that the reviews comparing ps3 and 360 say 360 is better, graphics, game play, etc. what do you guys think?

gimpo2

11-21-2006, 03:04 PM

so whats up with the ps3? ive heard that the reviews comparing ps3 and 360 say 360 is better, graphics, game play, etc. what do you guys think?

well either no one here has one or played the one they bought or the games are rather unremarkable. The posts in this thread seem to be more about the console and the controversy of launch than the actual games. If you look at the Wii thread they are talking about the games and the fun factor.

just an observation

Donas64

11-21-2006, 03:05 PM

so whats up with the ps3? ive heard that the reviews comparing ps3 and 360 say 360 is better, graphics, game play, etc. what do you guys think?

First gen wise the 360 is gunna have the egde. That and the PS3 is a pain in the butt tp program for. But I think as you see more exlusive content and less ports, the PS3 will shine. It had better for the price people are paying for it. Truth be told I went into a gamestop and Played NBA live and NFS Carbon, not blown away in the least. I'm positive that my copy of Burnout: Revenge on the PS2 looked better than Carbon on the PS3. Also Apart from Gears of War on the 360, I've yet to see a game that looked as good as RE4 on my gamecube. Graphics will only take the PS3 so far. I'm sure it will be a huge success but much like the PS1 and PS2 before it, it's slow out of the gate.

Donas64

11-21-2006, 03:07 PM

well either no one here has one or played the one they bought or the games are rather unremarkable. The posts in this thread seem to be more about the console and the controversy of launch than the actual games. If you look at the Wii thread they are talking about the games and the fun factor.

just an observation

It will always come down to the gameplay. Graphics matter for sure but the reason the gamecube didn't die an ugly death but rather soldiered along slightl wounded was that despite it's kiddy image, it had a heck of a lot of fun games and excellent first party titles.

Whichever system manages to combine good graphics and killer gameplay will succeed. Just ask sony about the PSP. Graphics that Blow away the DS, but the DS might as well be King kong to the PSPs Jiminy Crickett. It's all about the games.

sanblaster

11-21-2006, 03:09 PM

Gameplay is what it is about. I think graphics are a bonus.

Wes

11-21-2006, 03:31 PM

gimpo2

11-21-2006, 03:37 PM

evilmonkeyMSP

11-21-2006, 03:38 PM

it says the seller ended the auction early...

He probably got an offer from an outside venture...

Demoniam

11-21-2006, 03:40 PM

HAHA... this dude selling his PS3 must be pissed! How do you suppose this happened?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280050635902&ru=http://search.ebay.com:80/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=280050635902&fvi=1

He prolly sold it locally, and had the auction set up on private buyer status or something not legit.

I think that the ps3 will become kickass, but the launch games are kinda meh. ps2 was the same way...those games were pretty blah, but now ps2 kicks butt..

altspace

11-21-2006, 03:42 PM

This eBay seller actually wrote "Wife not included".

http://i10.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/79/88/7bbb_1.JPG

duMb KeoLa

11-21-2006, 05:53 PM

yah... seems that way. the ps3 graphics are pretty shitty and the only thing that ps2 had over xbox were the amount of games it had behind it. as more and more games come out for the 360 it seems that the ps3/ps2 and 360 will have most of the same games. i highly doubt the ps3 will be able to beat the 360 graphics.. i mean, come on... its MICROSOFT! backed by bill gates.. the richest kid on the block. let the roast BEGIN! hehe

MP3Architect

11-24-2006, 03:12 AM

man...i love all these people that are like "we're gonna make tons of $$$ on ebay cuz sony isn't releasing anymore of these until feb/march". what they dont realize is that stores dont have to have these things in stock due to sony shipping them....im thinking many of those guys who stayed outside 3 days in the rain and cold will end up refunding them sooner or later. ebay is just flooded with ps3's and most aren't bidded on at all. crazy people

2k3 PrO RiDa

11-28-2006, 11:06 PM

man... I haven't even gotten to play the system we have at my job. The first time we hooked it up, it froze twice within the first hour...at least it looks nice though :(

Liquid_Ag

11-28-2006, 11:21 PM

i was talking to someone that said the display unit at their best buy caught on fire lol

We Are Ninja

12-05-2006, 10:28 AM

duMb KeoLa

12-05-2006, 06:18 PM

I've had mine since launch and it's sex. It does get hot to the touch, though. Doesn't affect gameplay at all.

Only got one game, Ridge Racer 7, and it's awesome. Especially for people who have followed the series since the PS1 games.

No complaints thus far. :D

have you seen graphics comparison from 360 to ps3? just wondering how it looks. not trying to start a war on this thread, im just interested.

thanks!

gimpo2

12-05-2006, 06:42 PM

the 360 looks better so far, but developers have had a 1 year head start

We Are Ninja

12-06-2006, 11:37 AM

have you seen graphics comparison from 360 to ps3? just wondering how it looks. not trying to start a war on this thread, im just interested.

thanks!

I''ve got both games, but haven't played them back to back/side to side. I had been meaning to do that, too...

EDIT: Compared the two... Graphically, I've got to give it to the 360. Namco uses the same effect they mastered on the PS2 with Tekken 5 and Soul Calibur; the game has a soft, subtle blur that kills some of the detail, but makes you want to reach in the screen and touch stuff.

The PS3 version is still superior though, more detail, more cars, more tracks, tuning, customization, and better gameplay.

RR6 was just like RR1-5; you had to pass 12 drones before the end of the 3rd lap; RR7 seems to have actual opponents...

girth

12-24-2006, 09:09 AM

I'm posting this from my PS3! Sweet (but slow) browser it has. Easy to read and good predictive typing.

Demoniam

12-24-2006, 09:12 PM

There are 3 of these fukkers just mocking me in my local walmart today. The 60 gb versions, too.

God I need a better job!

girth

12-24-2006, 11:14 PM

GET one Demon! You're going to break down and get one eventually so might as well get it now so you can start enjoying it now. Overall I'm very impressed with everything it has to offer so far except for the launch games currently for sale. The hardware, the interface, the network setup, installing PS2 games to the hard drive, etc etc are all very slick. Only thing that would be nice is if you could transfer game saves FROM the hard drive to a memory card. When the hard drive or PS3 inevitably bites the dust your saves are done for. =(

Nutari

12-24-2006, 11:15 PM

I take it you guys havent seen this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoCD9TwLrVs

girth

12-24-2006, 11:21 PM

I take it you guys havent seen this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoCD9TwLrVs
I saw that video but don't put much faith in it.....I haven't noticed any difference myself in the few games I've tried. To me just seems like a fanboy trying to start something. *shrug*

slayer4u

02-15-2007, 06:45 PM

Looks like sony's sales boss for the UK just quit. Not surprised.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6165897.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=morenews&tag=morenews;title;11

I saw 3 PS3s at a local gamecrazy. There was a used ps3 in there too.

Pyr0TeK

02-16-2007, 12:52 PM

I love my PS3... (upyours)

girth

02-16-2007, 07:12 PM

I'm digging mine too...mostly for the Blu-Ray features though. Keeping me plenty busy until more decent games come out.

Newf

02-16-2007, 08:09 PM

i haven't used one yet. Want to see it since my 360 died on feb 2nd. Can't say I can afford one for a long long time, but i still want to see one.

RallyeRedSi

07-20-2007, 12:21 AM

bump for my PS3 people, Who got Ninja Gaiden Sigma.

I need a new game i beat the only games i have, Sigma and Resistance

SLA

07-20-2007, 12:32 AM

bump for my PS3 people, Who got Ninja Gaiden Sigma.

I need a new game i beat the only games i have, Sigma and Resistance

The good games are getting closer to release, the top two I'm waiting for are MGS4 and GT5.

Donas64

07-20-2007, 05:17 AM

I REALLY hope GT5 has AI thats not DUMB AS A ROCK anymore. Goodness knows that the PS3 has enough power so they can include some decent CPU drivers if they won't let us play online. Also not having cars get damaged is so lame!!!

I love GT. I was hooked on GT2 and still play GT4 but the AI is sooooo braindead, its annoying!

RallyeRedSi

07-20-2007, 12:35 PM

i always used to bounce off cars when taking turns

zoomzoom02

07-20-2007, 12:51 PM

i always used to bounce off cars when taking turns

Lol that is the only way I could win; get a really fast car, and simply floor it and bounce off the turns, take shortcuts straight across dirt instead of following the corkscrews etc.

zoomzoom02

07-20-2007, 12:54 PM

I take it you guys havent seen this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoCD9TwLrVs

"The glitch shown in this video only occurs on firmwares earlier than 1.5!" So looks like problem solved.

Donas64

07-20-2007, 03:02 PM

Until they make it so "bouncing of cars" is not a viable option to winning, they fix the braindead AI and add in car damage, GT will always be great but deeply flawed.

girth

07-20-2007, 06:14 PM

All in all the AI in GT4 and Forza are pretty much the same, at least in my experience. They both suck for the most part but at least you'll know they'll stay "on the racing line" most of the time. Car damage is WAY overrated....the damage model in Forza is so lame and pathetic they might as well not even have included it at all. Rumor supposedly is that the GT developer has been working on a damage model for years and won't include it until it's truly realistic....so we'll see....I'm betting there will be damage in GT5.

Can't wait for October - GT5 Prologue available on Playstation Network! (at least in Japan anyway).

RallyeRedSi

07-21-2007, 07:01 AM

Donas64

07-21-2007, 08:21 AM

It makes you play better, if you crash your car you can mess up how it drives, so its not lame and pathetic

Extactly. There should be a penalty for running into a wall at 80MPH!

girth

07-21-2007, 09:28 AM

Donas64

07-21-2007, 02:02 PM

There already IS a penalty for running into a wall (with a few very rare exceptions) - that penalty is that it is not the fastest way around the track. If you concentrate on not hitting the walls you will see your times improve, I can guarantee it.

I understand that. But for those who can't play online or don't play online, good AI adds a lot to a game. I should not be able to ping pong off cars , slam into walls, drive totally messed up and still come first.

If you're going for best lap times then your argument holds true, but playing against the AI in GT can often be an excercise in boredom.