full exhaust or Rims and tires

[FinalResort]

hello every one again im looking to up grade my car and the only mod on the car is a Injen CAI so im looking for another good up grade and a determind it between headers mid pipe and exhaust or just rims and tires

[FinalResort]

oh yeah and what type of ehaust and headers i know the mid pipe already and the rims and tires i want the rims are 5zigen f01rc and falken tires

[KrayzieFox]

My vote goes to rims/tires.

[Tasty]

2nd vote for rims and tires. Way more impact for the $.

[Nomad]

you'll see the wheels every day. The best way to change how a car looks is to change the wheel package.

I just got an axel back from an MP3 since the gains are so small anyway.
No need to spend a ton of money for 5 more HP.

good luck with your choice

[CTt3P5]

Another vote for rims/tires. I agree with Nomad on the exhaust. Look for a good deal on the forums for a used one. That's what I did. :)

[L8R]

Rims, tires, and a drop.

[FinalResort]

idk if i can drop it b/c i will scratch coming out of my house

[Tasty]

That seals the deal then; save money for a new house!

[ProtoType5]

I'd vote for wheel/tire/drop combo....no reason to start trying to make it faster, we all know where that leads. Headers alone make it much more fun to drive...So add header into the mix and you'll be happy...

[FinalResort]

haha im 15 hmm i wonder

[ProtoType5]

haha im 15 hmm i wonder

Damn, I was lucky if my car was running when I was 16...Save your money!!!! Buy an education....

[mazdaspeed777]

A thermal catback with your intake would compliment it quite well, but if your looking for looks rims and tires are one of the best mods out there next to a body kit. Plus the tires help a ton with performance so kind of best of both worlds there.

[FinalResort]

yeah uhh im home schooled so im getting a fine education lol. yeah im looking for a mix of both preformence and a little bit of looks

[Kansei]

I'd go for wheels/tires/drop. You can enter your driveway at an angle to reduce the chances of hitting anything.

[ProtoType5]

yeah uhh im home schooled so im getting a fine education lol. yeah im looking for a mix of both preformence and a little bit of looks

Well then definitely save your money for an education....(rtfm)

[FinalResort]

i came in strait one day in to the drive way and i think i scraped idk.. lol what about coil over and just save more money and put rims on there and the coil overs?

[Mike R]

Modding a P5 is a waste. (IMO)

It's funny, I took off the injen and HKS, and only noticed a difference in noise. No performance change, milage went up slightly though. Paint the stock wheels and slap some decent rubber on them.

[susamafone]

id have to go with rims and tires too

[Kansei]

and drop.. can't forget the drop. If you aren't going to drop and want rims and tires, at least get 205/45/17 or 215/45/17 so the car doesn't look ridiculous :P. I have 205/40/17 but my car is lowered enough that it doesn't look awkward. The rule of thumb is to make sure the wheel gap is never larger than the tire sidewall.

[meinp5]

I would do rims and tires...then save for a little while and get a nice set of coilovers.

[~JoJo~]

rim/tire +muffler

[FinalResort]

lol uh how about headers rims and coil overs

[FinalResort]

and what type of coil overs?? k sports? or Teins? or somthing else??

[KrayzieFox]

No coilovers .. not unless you have money to upgrade your struts too. If you can do both, then go for it but I would recommend some progressive rate springs with about a 1.5" - 2.0" drop instead. It will keep the ride much softer and still improve handling/looks.


i came in strait one day in to the drive way and i think i scraped idk..
If you're gonna drop it you gotta learn how to drive a little better. I know you're 15 and just started drivin, but a good thing to get used to is to take inclines at an angle. Turn steering only half way as you're coming up to the incline, once your first wheel is on the bump turn your steering another half and slowly accelerate up the incline. You shouldn't have any problems unless the incline literally looks like this " / "

[FinalResort]

yeah i never take it strait in anymore b/c i do not want anymore scraches then i already have.. lol

[importcrazy]

its all about the angle you would be amazed at the hieght of the things you can make it over if you come at it at the correct angle...... ohhh and wheels and tires fo sho home slice. white 5 spokes would look nice on the red P5.

[FinalResort]

yeah i wish the 5zigen f01rcs came in white im looking for light weight and good looking and under like 1k

[Salmon_Rob]

No coil overs .. not unless you have money to upgrade your struts too. If you can do both, then go for it but I would recommend some progressive rate springs with about a 1.5" - 2.0" drop instead. It will keep the ride much softer and still improve handling/looks. yeah...no. he is talking full coil overs, pillow mounts all that jazz. you are talking coil over sleeve. the full coil over is EVERYTHING, from the mount to the hub. excellent angle of attack summation tho ;) if you want good light rims, check out rotas, they make an fnoric replica, also check out exels, etc. they are out there

[KrayzieFox]

yeah...no. he is talking full coil overs, pillow mounts all that jazz. you are talking coil over sleeve. the full coil over is EVERYTHING, from the mount to the hub. excellent angle of attack summation tho ;) if you want good light rims, check out rotas, they make an fnoric replica, also check out exels, etc. they are out there
I thought he meant coil over sleeves though .. so I must've missed somethin. If you can get the full kit with struts and all then great, but no sleeves.

[Salmon_Rob]

k sports and teins are the full deal

[FinalResort]

yeah thats what i was talking about the full deal and im gonna go look at those rims you said liquid

[evilmonkeyMSP]

rims & tires....you'll get more benefits from those than you would a full exhaust on your NA P5...

[FinalResort]

okay so on my rims should i bump up to 17 or stay 16 b/c i just would rather stay 16s

[Kansei]

okay so on my rims should i bump up to 17 or stay 16 b/c i just would rather stay 16s

Stay 16s if you like them :) Some wheels look too small as 16s, others (like the stock wheels) look just fine :)

[FinalResort]

http://www.autornd.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=14_8859&products_id=3926&osCsid=d3288f6ff607b2209d3d9fd5d4730077
how about those are 17s but look very nice

[evilmonkeyMSP]

if you're spending the $, get 17's, they will look better

[FinalResort]

yeah and those 17s weigh 13 pounds LOL

[Kansei]

wow that's light! I think the stock 16s are like 16 pounds.

[Hughes412]

okay so on my rims should i bump up to 17 or stay 16 b/c i just would rather stay 16s
My next set of wheels will be 16's. The 17s just ride to harsh for me.

[FinalResort]

i thought the stock were 18?? idk though i have not even took them off the car once LOL i have only had the car like 3 months now. but yeah they are really light like lighter then the tires LOL

[evilmonkeyMSP]

the stockers are only 16s

[FinalResort]

okay kool

[Peter5]

u started on the motor , stock mags aint that bad so put a header (obx or tsudo ) , racing beat catback and there ya go
rims = low and slow , aka all show no go
go>show
(poke)

[evilmonkeyMSP]

its a P5...even w/ the exhaust, its still slow :p

[Peter5]

its a P5...even w/ the exhaust, its still slow :p
lol yeah well bigger rims will only make it look faster ... but in reality when u change rims size ... u loose power
but with a header/catback it will look and sound and really help for the power
will help the motor breath beter
what u think ?

[Peter5]

its a P5...even w/ the exhaust, its still slow :p
o yeah , i really like ur picture , every time im like wtf is that ! Haha

[evilmonkeyMSP]

yeah you're right, but he needs to figure out whats more beneficial to him...style or a little added power...
lol yeah well bigger rims will only make it look faster ... but in reality when u change rims size ... u loose power
but with a header/catback it will look and sound and really help for the power
will help the motor breath beter
what u think ?

[evilmonkeyMSP]

lol thanks...its a boneless chicken bag hahaha

o yeah , i really like ur picture , every time im like wtf is that ! Haha

[Peter5]

lol thanks...its a boneless chicken bag hahaha
LOL awsome ! (first) f*ck thats funny !!!!!!

[FinalResort]

LOL okay i think rims and tires and new headers thats a little more power with some looks and maybe a some type of exhast

[FinalResort]

hey what if i go with 15s and lower my car??

[2003newlyack]

I think 15's are a little small for the p5 but thats just my oppinion. I've seen some really nice 18's and lots of good 17's.

[Peter5]

my opinion is that the stockers are nice for the car when there are well wrapped. just need a little paint job
im going to paint mine this winter , here a pic (photoshoped)

[FinalResort]

yeah im looking at gram lights 57c

[Salmon_Rob]

you can do everything to this car and itll still be slow. even boosted p5s are slow. so make it do what it does best (handle) better. and what it does 2nd best (look awesome) better

[Kansei]

you can do everything to this car and itll still be slow. even boosted p5s are slow. so make it do what it does best (handle) better. and what it does 2nd best (look awesome) better

Don't listen to him, his definition of "slow" and "fast" is a bit skewed for whatever reason. I say being in the 14s is fast enough haha.. granted I think my car is fast enough right now, but I'm still turboing.

[Salmon_Rob]

Don't listen to him, his definition of "slow" and "fast" is a bit skewed for whatever reason. I say being in the 14s is fast enough haha.. granted I think my car is fast enough right now, but I'm still turboing.bah. you guys are weird :p

[FinalResort]

lol if i can beat a little ricers on the road right now im good to go

[redpr5]

all show no go for me!!! yay for autotragics! lol

[FinalResort]

can i put some stickers on it to make it go faster?!?!?!?! come on LOL i think i want the grams i found some all 4 for 860$ so thats not to bad in white also