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wachamacallit

10-22-2006, 11:09 PM

does anyone know how to wire the fogs in with the parking lights to where u still have the option of turning them off or on with out the headlights? please help!!!
thanks in advance
tab:)

wachamacallit

10-26-2006, 07:24 PM

ok i got it done!! here are some pics of it!

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808mz5

10-26-2006, 11:35 PM

Is that a Speed6 next to the 5.... I'm jealous:)

monsta

10-27-2006, 01:15 AM

ok i got it done!! here are some pics of it!

C'mon! Don't hold out! How do I do it?! I don't want to have to go figure it out myself. :) If that'd be the case, it'll never get done.

TheMAN

10-27-2006, 01:26 AM

ok i got it done!! here are some pics of it!

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93372

uhhh ok... looks STOCK to me :rolleyes:

TheMAN

10-27-2006, 01:27 AM

C'mon! Don't hold out! How do I do it?! I don't want to have to go figure it out myself. :) If that'd be the case, it'll never get done.

it'll involve wiring changes just like what I did to the mazda 3 (find that how-to and you'll see it's not a simple thing... but don't follow it since the 5 is most likely different)

wachamacallit

10-27-2006, 12:00 PM

Is that a Speed6 next to the 5.... I'm jealous:)

yes it is a speed 6 next to the 5. Its my fiance's he loves it. and i honestly dont know how to do it the shop where i had it done sayd they rewired the fog light wire to the tail light relay instead of factory headlamp relay so when u turn on your parking lights the fog lights will come on but u still have full function of the switch and u can still turn them off and on.
it took him 5 mins to do so it must be simple. :)

they also did it to the 6 the wireing on the 6 is the same thing on the 5 also.

mssixter

10-27-2006, 02:41 PM

C'mon! Don't hold out! How do I do it?! I don't want to have to go figure it out myself. :) If that'd be the case, it'll never get done.

Wasnt too hard. He did my MS6 in 18 minutes and did the 5 in about 5 minutes. Very easy. I wish I would have done them myself If I knew they would have been that easy.

Basically take your foglight relay out and take the headlight wire off. Tape up the headlight wire so you can get to it for future use if you want to put it back to stock. He put my foglight wire up to the taillight relay. I'm sure that most know this already, but your foglights get the power from headlights and need the power from another source. And your foglight switch will still be fully functional.

Hope that helps. If any of you need more detail with pics. I'm sure that I can get to it this weekend. I just called my guy that did my MS6 and my ol ladies 5 (who started this thread), and he said he'll write it all out for me. Then I'll post. But for most of you electrical heads (which I'm not) shouldnt be a problem at all for you.

mssixter

10-27-2006, 02:45 PM

uhhh ok... looks STOCK to me :rolleyes:

Thats cuz it IS stock. :rolleyes:

Foglights are now independent. Fully functional with parking lights.

mssixter

10-27-2006, 02:47 PM

Is that a Speed6 next to the 5.... I'm jealous:)

Yup, another MS6. Very nice car. Got it for the winter.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i34/tahde/Mazda/Picture002.jpg

7red7

11-06-2006, 12:18 AM

dommo_g

11-08-2006, 01:13 AM

Your pictures don't show anything different than what the car does unmodified. Can you have your fog lights on when the headlights are off, or when the brights are on? Pics?

mssixter

11-09-2006, 04:37 PM

Your pictures don't show anything different than what the car does unmodified. Can you have your fog lights on when the headlights are off, or when the brights are on? Pics?

Actually, yes it does show a difference. Since pics arent clear (where you can see the difference), I'll post some for pics of her vehicle.

Headlights HAVE to be on for you to turn foglights on/off (stock). Now she can have her foglights on (fully functional) with her parking lights. Doesnt come from factory like that. (headshake

mssixter

11-09-2006, 04:41 PM

Please post up the info from the mechanic that did your relay wires...I'd love to try this out myself and see if I can make it work :D

I'd love to have my fogs on with just the parking lights!!!

DAN

I said that I was going to do this a while back when I first got the ol ladies 5 done. I totally forgot to post, and forgot what needs to be done. I'll shoot up there here in a few and get the intel for ya.

My bad. (outie)

dommo_g

11-10-2006, 01:52 AM

Actually, yes it does show a difference. Since pics arent clear (where you can see the difference), I'll post some for pics of her vehicle.

Headlights HAVE to be on for you to turn foglights on/off (stock). Now she can have her foglights on (fully functional) with her parking lights. Doesnt come from factory like that. (headshake
Am I missing something? I see 2 pictures. One has the foglights and headlights on together. One has only parking lights on. I don't see a picture with foglights on/headlights off.

zr27

11-10-2006, 08:32 AM

Wasnt too hard. He did my MS6 in 18 minutes and did the 5 in about 5 minutes. Very easy. I wish I would have done them myself If I knew they would have been that easy.

Basically take your foglight relay out and take the headlight wire off. Tape up the headlight wire so you can get to it for future use if you want to put it back to stock. He put my foglight wire up to the taillight relay. I'm sure that most know this already, but your foglights get the power from headlights and need the power from another source. And your foglight switch will still be fully functional.

Hope that helps. If any of you need more detail with pics. I'm sure that I can get to it this weekend. I just called my guy that did my MS6 and my ol ladies 5 (who started this thread), and he said he'll write it all out for me. Then I'll post. But for most of you electrical heads (which I'm not) shouldnt be a problem at all for you.

Any possibilty that you can post the info on wiring the foglights? Has anyone ever wired in after market foglights? I have seen many kits for much less?

wachamacallit

11-10-2006, 07:02 PM

Am I missing something? I see 2 pictures. One has the foglights and headlights on together. One has only parking lights on. I don't see a picture with foglights on/headlights off.

94376
the headlights are off its just the glare from the flash. they do work wile the headlights are off with just the parkin lights on.

jandree22

11-10-2006, 08:17 PM

94376
the headlights are off its just the glare from the flash.
I was wondering if that's what happened... projectors will do that to ya every time.

wachamacallit

11-10-2006, 08:33 PM

I was wondering if that's what happened... projectors will do that to ya every time.
yeah it kinda sux cus it dont look like the headlights are off but they realy are. i tryed all differnt ways to take the pic but they all look like the HL are still on (omg)

dommo_g

11-10-2006, 08:58 PM

94376
the headlights are off its just the glare from the flash. they do work wile the headlights are off with just the parkin lights on.
Aaahh! (thumb)

WidgenEds Dad

11-19-2006, 08:40 AM

I am bamboozled as to why you want the fogs on if it isn't foggy!!!

They are a down right nuisance when you are driving and a car comes along blazing it's fog lights, especially when it is wet. The bright light bounces up of the road surface and causes the oncoming traffic to be dazzled just as if you had the main beam on.
It is acutally illegal to drive in the UK with fog lights on if visibility isn't seriously impeded due to fog. (doesn't stop the boy racers though!)
Although there was a case recently where a massive drugs bust was made because a car was pulled for having its wally lights on. The copper thought all his Christmases had come at once when he saw the gear in the car.....

jandree22

11-19-2006, 08:51 AM

mssixter

11-19-2006, 03:54 PM

^^^ I think part of that answer may be that over in your country, you don't have as tight of restrictions on your bulb intensities? Because over here, OEM fog lights are not bright... usually less intensity than your regular low beams. The "fog light w/parking light" look is just a style that some love to have.

The problem that we generally have with fogs are when a riceboy puts on aftermarket fog lights and doesn't have a clue how to aim them, therefore piercing yellow right in your eyeballs.

Exactly! The fogs here arent bright at all. Its more a "style" than anything. All of our vehicles are like this with both the Mazdas being the only ones that actually had to get modified. Not that we ride around late evenings with the parking lights and fog lights on.

wachamacallit

11-19-2006, 04:09 PM

94940

94941

here is better pics of it where u can tell alot better.

dommo_g

11-20-2006, 01:25 AM

So....when do we get to the 'HOW TO' part of this thread?

wachamacallit

11-20-2006, 11:23 AM

the "HOW TO" is on post #8 all we did was hook the fog light relay up to the tail light relay. so when the tail lights are on u have the option to turn on the fog lights. the switch to the fog lights are still fully functional so u dont have to have the fog lights on at all times if u dont want to.

jandree22

11-20-2006, 12:33 PM

the "HOW TO" is on post #8 all we did was hook the fog light relay up to the tail light relay.
Stupid question… are you sure your fogs don’t turn on every time you tap the brakes? (ughdance)

wachamacallit

11-20-2006, 01:27 PM

no they dont come on with the breaks cause the breaks have a differnt relay than the tail lights

dommo_g

11-20-2006, 04:09 PM

danix

11-26-2006, 11:31 PM

dommo_g

11-27-2006, 10:47 PM

When it's really, really foggy, it would be beneficial to have only the fogs on, with no low beams. I've driven in conditions like this, so I understand the desire for this mod, though I know some people want it for the cool factor alone.

Also helpful in heavy snow. Even low beams make enough light to cause a ton of reflection off the snow to make visibility really poor. Experienced this the first month I had the 5. Drove through part of a snowstorm with just the parking lights on.

WidgenEds Dad

12-03-2006, 11:26 AM

Also helpful in heavy snow. Even low beams make enough light to cause a ton of reflection off the snow to make visibility really poor. Experienced this the first month I had the 5. Drove through part of a snowstorm with just the parking lights on.

I understand what you are saying about the glareback from the snow.

However, what about the poor person who cannot see you coming along the road because you don't have your beams on, then pulls out in front of you?....

This kind of accident happened just up the road to me last year.
The poor driver of the car that pulled out was shaken but unhurt, but both cars were right offs...

The driver of the car with only its sidelights on used the excuse of not being able to see because of the glare back... so he switched the beams off.....
The simple answer to his dilemma was spelled out in a court case......
Drive to the conditions, even if this means stopping! And drivers have a duty of care to other road users. i.e. put your lights on when visibility is low.....

Fran82

12-07-2006, 09:12 PM

I did this mod last winter. It took longer than 5 minutes, but still wasn't difficult. Everything was done in the fuse box under the hood, which took the most time. You have to take the fuse cover off and locate the relays for the foglights and the parking lights. I don't have the exact wire colors, so make sure to get a test light. You just need to locate the wire for the foglight relay that gets power when the headlights are turned on. You'll cut that wire and instead connect a trigger wire that gets powered by the parking lights. Understand? I'll try to get pics at some point, but it honestly won't be soon.
Sorry

lightspeed

12-22-2006, 12:42 PM

can we have a little bit more detail with the wires. Please!

Fran82

12-23-2006, 11:57 AM

can we have a little bit more detail with the wires. Please!

Ya, I forgot about it. I'll try to check it out today.

Fran82

12-25-2006, 03:57 PM

can we have a little bit more detail with the wires. Please!
I took a look at the wiring and got the colors, at least the colors from my car. Always test wiring before making any modifications. This is just meant as a general guide. Everything can be done in the fusebox on the driver's side under the hood. Open hood. Remove cover to fuse box. Once you remove cover, locate foglight relay and taillight relay according to the cover. Standing in front of the car, the foglight relay should be closest to the strut tower in the middle, and the taillight relay should be along the right side at the top of the row of 3 or 4 relays. Before disconnecting the battery turn the foglights on and off and you should be able to hear and feel the relay clicking. Same for the taillight relay. After confirming you are using the correct relays, you can disconnect the battery.

From there you will need to remove the fuse/relay panel. You can see small black clips within the white tray sealing the fuse block. Work your way around the block separating these tabs. Just push the black in toward the fuse block to release. There is one, right next to the battery, which moves the opposite direction. This is the hardest part of the process, but just be patient and keep working the block up gradually. It may be easier if you disconnect the blue harness plug that is connected in the center of the block also. Just pull up on the white handle and it should separate.

After you get the block up so you can see all the wiring, you'll need to temporarily connect power again so you can test your wires. Locate the foglight relay, (make sure your foglights are off), and test for the wire that gets power when the headlights are turned on. Mine was Grey with Blue stripe. When you find the correct wire, mark it. Now to the taillight relay. Test for the wire that gives power out to the taillights when the switch is turned on. Mine was Grey with Black stripe. You need to strip a little insulation from that grey/black wire and connect a scrap piece of wire about 6 inches long. Properly insulate the connection.

Now cut the grey/blue wire about 2 inches from the foglight relay. The end going into the harness can be capped off. The end coming out of the relay needs to be connected to the scrap piece of wire we had connected to the taillight relay. Now test everything. You should be able to turn your foglights on with only the parking lights being on. If everything works properly, make sure all your connections are secure and well insulated, and put it back together the reverse of disassembly.

Long write up, but it really wasn't that difficult if you have some basic electrical skills. But, if you don't feel comfortable doing it, then seek out a qualified technician. Hopefully someone at a car stereo shop/alarm shop will be able to take care of it. That is my background from way back.

bwudwagun

02-20-2009, 07:06 PM

This is great! I've been wanting to do this specific upgrade for awhile now, but I basically have no experience doing this sort of thing and I'm worried about messing up. (blowup)

Would you happen to have any pictures you can post for me to follow along? I appreciate all the help.

Thanks!

Fran82

02-20-2009, 08:57 PM

Sorry, we don't have our 5 anymore, so I don't have any pics to share. Wish I hadn't gotten rid of it......

AO928

02-20-2009, 11:03 PM

I followed Fran's writeup and it worked perfectly. Sorry, I didn't take pics all the way through, but here's what I've got. I might be able to go back and snap a couple more.

http://picasaweb.google.com/AndrewmOlson/20081122Mazda?feat=directlink

bwudwagun

02-28-2009, 07:45 PM

Wow, awesome pictures! Thank you both so much!

I will try this as soon as I can find time.

red headz

03-07-2009, 12:26 AM

We just finished modification on our M5 GT!

It was quite annoying from the factory, but these forums sure helped.(dance)

mspeedP5

03-07-2009, 01:18 AM

94376
the headlights are off its just the glare from the flash. they do work wile the headlights are off with just the parkin lights on.

Turn off your flash...

dima_rus

03-07-2009, 01:38 AM

nice write up man, I will definitely try that.

red headz

03-07-2009, 10:59 PM

...and test for the wire that gets power when the headlights are turned on. Mine was Grey with Blue stripe. When you find the correct wire, mark it. Now to the taillight relay. Test for the wire that gives power out to the taillights when the switch is turned on. Mine was Grey with Black stripe. Now cut the grey/blue wire about 2 inches from the foglight relay.

Our 2008 Mazda5 GT had the exact wiring & coloring as described above.
A few wire taps and heat shrink and we were in business.

michael.

AwaKeN

05-02-2009, 05:17 PM

nice write up man, I will definitely try that.

Did you try it Dima ? I want to try it but i don't know if it's gona work with the DRL ...

dima_rus

05-02-2009, 09:02 PM

I was thinking o trying that, but then realized that my lights(HID) are always on and it wouldn't make sense for me to do the independent fog mod, I just simply wouldn't be able to use it and I like my DRL way too much. I don't thing it is worth it to disconnect DRL just so I can run my fogs, that barely produce any light.

I don't mean to discourage any of you guys from doing the mod, just stating my opinion.

Dima

joeym509

05-02-2009, 10:00 PM

Hope I am not too off topic, but I would really like to have DRL, anyone know how I could do this?

dima_rus

05-02-2009, 10:15 PM

Hope I am not too off topic, but I would really like to have DRL, anyone know how I could do this?

Do what? You already have DRL, and doing the fog mod wouldn't do no good for you, cuz your lights are on once you start your car. Meanwhile you can still have your DRL and fogs on at the same time.

The only difference it will make if you want to have your low beams+high beams+fogs on at the same time.
Hope this helps

Dima

joeym509

05-02-2009, 11:15 PM

I have a USA version, it doesn't have DRL's, but as much driving as I do I really like them for the extra safety they provide. Is there a mod or add on I can get to add them?

tillyspeed81

05-03-2009, 04:03 AM

I have the same problem...but I found the solution...there's this switch on the steering column with a headlight symbol...I turn it on when I drive during the day....(spank)(butt)(butt)(butt) just teasing...sorry....(silly) maybe it's just a relay or something, I think I remember seeing a fuse spot for it in the fuse box....maybe it's as simple as putting a fuse in....I mean that was how easy it was to install the fogs...basically just installed the switch, even the fog light fuse was there already from the factory...I'll double check in the morning...

joeym509

05-03-2009, 03:08 PM

jasma1

05-04-2009, 02:14 PM

joeym,

I would switch any time with you!!! No DRLs would be fantastic!!! But in CDA.... Got no choice...

joeym509

05-04-2009, 02:25 PM

joeym,

I would switch any time with you!!! No DRLs would be fantastic!!! But in CDA.... Got no choice...

please tell me why you dont like them? (drive)

DKaz

05-04-2009, 04:57 PM

When I had my Corolla, I disabled the factory DRLs on low beams and installed this module to get it to turn the high beams on at 25% intensity when in DRL mode. The only thing I would change would be connecting the red wire to the DRL module, provided that the DRL can provide 12V power at the appropriate amperage. I didn't feel like going through the firewall so I kept it dirty and simple. The only time I had to disable DRLs was at the drive-in theatre. In the Mazda 5, I would probably connect the white wires to the fog lights.

Better late than never... instructions thanks to Dave at DX where I bought the module from but I made a few modifications.

I did not take pictures of the ground yet but GROUND THE MODULE FIRST!!! There is a ground connection on the strut tower.

Fusebox overview...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3246/2695880431_9963b9e08d.jpg

12V power supply - Red wire (please refer to your module's instruction manual.
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Yellow wire - high beam light connection and Pink wire - ignition sensing connection which I connected to EFI because it's the only fuse that is only active when ignition is turned on. The yellow wire provides DRL power from the power supply to the high beams. (ditto)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3114/2696696580_00f39949de.jpg

Finally the white wire - low beam sensing connection ... Basically when it senses the low beams have turned on, the DRLs will turn off.
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Take out the appropriate fuse, wrap the wire around, and connect it to the DRL module. Connect on the side as per my photos because they are the protected size. I've been running this for almost a week with no issues of blown fuses so it's definitely safe.

End result:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3222/2690934503_b769f5552b.jpg

joeym509

05-05-2009, 09:57 PM

Can any of the Canadian owners check their owners manual or direct me to a online non-usa owners manual and let me know what fuse number slot is used for their DRL's? Thanks in advance!

joeym509

06-03-2009, 12:48 PM

Can any of the Canadian owners check their owners manual or direct me to a online non-usa owners manual and let me know what fuse number slot is used for their DRL's? Thanks in advance!

(bump) Can anyone help out ?