passenger side motor mount

[khaosman]

I need the passenger side motor mount. I believe the number is bl3k3906ya , is it in stock? And is overnight shipping available?

Thanks!
Patrick

[TheMAN]

but why not BP7H-39-06Y? it's better!

[khaosman]

but why not BP7H-39-06Y? it's better!

Go on... :D

Ah, your FAQ tells me it is the MSP one. Very good! Thank you also!

Bagman1, do you have that one in stock?

[hi-perf]

is the msp one structurally different than the regular passenger mount?

can you still use the AWR inserts in it? if so mine is torn to shit and ill get the MSP one and the AWR inserts and put em both in at the same time.

[bagman1]

The MSP mounts are slightly stiffer.

OE mount
BL3K3906YA MSRP-170.70 Website-136.56
MSP mount
BP7N3906Y MSRP-170.70 Website-136.56

So this is a no brainer IMO!

I would have to order either one. Without Freight you would see @Wed of next week. With freight you would see it Tues.

Regretfully all must suffer because I will not be here tomorrow as I have my last race of the season this weekend. I will be able to answer questions throughout the weekend.

JMBaggie

[khaosman]

Thank you good sir! I went ahead and ordered it. I might go junkyarding tomorrow and try to find another mount that will last me until this one arrives.

Good luck with your races!

[khaosman]

if so mine is torn to shit and ill get the MSP one and the AWR inserts and put em both in at the same time.

Can you beat mine?
http://khaosman.com/mm/DSC08796.jpg

:D

[bagman1]

Thank you good sir! I went ahead and ordered it. I might go junkyarding tomorrow and try to find another mount that will last me until this one arrives.

Good luck with your races!

Order received.

Thanks, I just hope I have not put you out by it.

JMBaggie

[khaosman]

Thanks again, just received the mount today. I can't wait to throw that beast in and bring my baby back to life!

[bagman1]

Thanks again, just received the mount today. I can't wait to throw that beast in and bring my baby back to life!

I am glad all went to plan.

thanks again,
JMBaggie

[njaremka]

What's the difference between BJ0N3906YE and BL3K3906YA? The parts manual I have shows BJ0N3906YE for the 2.0 liter passanger side mount.

The MSP mounts are slightly stiffer.

OE mount
BL3K3906YA MSRP-170.70 Website-136.56
MSP mount
BP7N3906Y MSRP-170.70 Website-136.56

So this is a no brainer IMO!

I would have to order either one. Without Freight you would see @Wed of next week. With freight you would see it Tues.

Regretfully all must suffer because I will not be here tomorrow as I have my last race of the season this weekend. I will be able to answer questions throughout the weekend.

JMBaggie

[bagman1]

What's the difference between BJ0N3906YE and BL3K3906YA? The parts manual I have shows BJ0N3906YE for the 2.0 liter passanger side mount.

I really have no idea the difference between the 2 mounts other than the prices. I don't have them in stock to do a true comparison between them.

BJ0N3906YE MSRP-119.55
BL3K3906YA MSRP-170.70

JMBaggie

[TheMAN]

BJ0N is for automatic
BL3K is for manual (non-turbo)

c'mon, are you really a parts man?

[bagman1]

BJ0N is for automatic
BL3K is for manual (non-turbo)

c'mon, are you really a parts man?

Dude, really stupid question.

yes I know that one is for an AT and one is for a MT. What I am saying is that they are of the same design and use the same mounting points so in theory they should be able to be an interchangable mount and scince AT one is much cheaper than the other why couldn't he use that one. So hence what the actual difference is between the 2 I cannot say since I have neither one on my shelf.

I assumed that he new that the differences between the 2 where AT and MT and that his question was not application but rather for less money can I use this one.

JMBaggie

[njaremka]

BJ0N is for automatic
BL3K is for manual (non-turbo)

c'mon, are you really a parts man?

gotcha - so, then, whats the difference between those two? (other than price and part number)

[TheMAN]

the engine is positioned more towards the center in the AT version, so the actual "fork" part of the mount is longer than the MT one.... other than that the rubber stiffness is also different

[bagman1]

gotcha - so, then, whats the difference between those two? (other than price and part number)

If you got a couple days I'll order 1 of each in and see.

JMBaggie

[njaremka]

If you got a couple days I'll order 1 of each in and see.

JMBaggie

sure, let me know when you get them in.

[bagman1]

sure, let me know when you get them in.

I will post the results.

JMBaggie

[TheMAN]

like I said, the mounts are NOT interchangable

[njaremka]

like I said, the mounts are NOT interchangable

the parts guide i have only lists BP7H-39-06Y (w/ turbo) and BJON-39-06YE (w/o turbo), and makes no mention of 'automatic' or 'manual' transmission- only 'turbo' or 'no turbo'. we are still talking about the passanger side mount, right?

[bagman1]

the parts guide i have only lists BP7H-39-06Y (w/ turbo) and BJON-39-06YE (w/o turbo), and makes no mention of 'automatic' or 'manual' transmission- only 'turbo' or 'no turbo'. we are still talking about the passanger side mount, right?

Yes we are. The BP7H uses a slightly stiffer rubber than does the regular BJ0N mount.

[bagman1]

like I said, the mounts are NOT interchangable

So you have literally set thes 2 mounts side by side and compared them. Me I haven't and until "I" do I'm not going to say anything.

My question to you is how many times have you seen 2 different part#s for the same part on the same car but both are functionally the same? I can honestly say that I have because I have been doing this for a while with Mazda and know that they have a tendancy to do things like that. Matter of fact I have been directly responsable for numerous part application changes due to multiple but alike parts. So don't be pissed at me if I don't believe the man until I see it for myself, hell you might be right and if you are I will give you complete credit for being correct when I post my findings but I am not going to not try just because you said, thats just not me.

JMBaggie

[bagman1]

I got the mounts in question in stock this morning.

There is no difference between the mounts.

The rubber isolator has the same resistance.
As I fugured all the mount points are the same between the 2.

This also opens the door to the people with AT's to be able to use the MSP mount if they so desire.

JMBaggie

[njaremka]

nice - so, i'd like to place my order for the cheap one, since i decided i'm going to fill it with some urethane goo. part number BJ0N3906YE, right?

[bagman1]

nice - so, i'd like to place my order for the cheap one, since i decided i'm going to fill it with some urethane goo. part number BJ0N3906YE, right?

That would be correct.

JMBaggie

[njaremka]

order placed :D

[bagman1]

order placed :D

Order received, processed and ready to ship.

[TheMAN]

I got the mounts in question in stock this morning.

There is no difference between the mounts.

The rubber isolator has the same resistance.
As I fugured all the mount points are the same between the 2.

This also opens the door to the people with AT's to be able to use the MSP mount if they so desire.

JMBaggie


say it ain't so!
I managed to take pics of an auto protege a few days ago, and *gasp* big surprise, there's a difference in how the engine sits! just playing with the mounts, you won't be able to tell the stiffness difference either... I can't believe you overlooked the obvious fact that the "fork" part of the motor mount is longer in the auto mount

I said it before, and I'll say it again... you CAN'T use the manual mount in an auto, and you CAN'T use the auto mount in a manual

if there was no diffrence, then mazda wouldn't have created a different part number, simple as that... they don't create extraneous part numbers for no reason... that's just more PITA book keeping on their part

maybe you should go work on proteges more *in a shop* before arguing with me... I'm sick of dealing with arrogant parts counter guys like you everyday who hand me wrong parts or think the part numbers I provide them from TSBs could be the wrong ones and so they say to me "why can't I look it up?", then try to look it up in the parts catalog only not to find it because they are special service parts then get the nerve to tell me that it's the wrong parts for the car



and why did I finally reply after over 10 days? because I needed to gather proof and I want to stop people from getting ripped off on getting the wrong parts

[Sveivo]

I heart TheMAN and his insightful posts!

[LinuxRacr]

I heart TheMAN and his insightful posts!

From day one hommie.

[bagman1]

say it ain't so!
I managed to take pics of an auto protege a few days ago, and *gasp* big surprise, there's a difference in how the engine sits! just playing with the mounts, you won't be able to tell the stiffness difference either... I can't believe you overlooked the obvious fact that the "fork" part of the motor mount is longer in the auto mount

I said it before, and I'll say it again... you CAN'T use the manual mount in an auto, and you CAN'T use the auto mount in a manual

if there was no diffrence, then mazda wouldn't have created a different part number, simple as that... they don't create extraneous part numbers for no reason... that's just more PITA book keeping on their part

maybe you should go work on proteges more *in a shop* before arguing with me... I'm sick of dealing with arrogant parts counter guys like you everyday who hand me wrong parts or think the part numbers I provide them from TSBs could be the wrong ones and so they say to me "why can't I look it up?", then try to look it up in the parts catalog only not to find it because they are special service parts then get the nerve to tell me that it's the wrong parts for the car



and why did I finally reply after over 10 days? because I needed to gather proof and I want to stop people from getting ripped off on getting the wrong parts

Why are you so upset?
Is it because your being questioned?

I will answer each of your statements as clearly and consise as possible.

you CAN'T use the manual mount in an auto, and you CAN'T use the auto mount in a manual
The customer has installed it on his car without any issues to this point in time. So I am guessing that it will work.

there was no diffrence, then mazda wouldn't have created a different part number, simple as that... they don't create extraneous part numbers for no reason... that's just more PITA book keeping on their part

Yes they do, they have and they will again. I say this from personal experience not to be argumentative. When you have a company that makes thousands of parts sometimes you will have overlap. 626 wheel bearings come to mind, story for another day.

maybe you should go work on proteges more *in a shop* before arguing with me... I'm sick of dealing with arrogant parts counter guys like you everyday who hand me wrong parts or think the part numbers I provide them from TSBs could be the wrong ones and so they say to me "why can't I look it up?", then try to look it up in the parts catalog only not to find it because they are special service parts then get the nerve to tell me that it's the wrong parts for the car

#1 You don't know me and don't pretend as if you do.
#2 I try to be as thorough as possible. That is why in this case I ordered all three and measured them in thier static form and in there static form. They are identical when measured. No I cannot atest to the stiffness of the Rubber used in the mount but from what I and my shop foreman could tell it was so minimal that when flexed with a scale attached we couldn't tell a difference between the MT and the AT.

and why did I finally reply after over 10 days? because I needed to gather proof and I want to stop people from getting ripped off on getting the wrong parts

As for the customer getting ripped off. I went out of my way to save the customer in question 45.00 on a part when I could just as easily sold him the MT mount. Also where you there when I talked to the customer about this part and the deal that I made with him, don't worry I know the answer to that one.


Now let me say this, I have never said anything bad about you or to you I just have always chosen to find out things on my own instead of trusting somebody I have never met or dealt with or no anything about. I can see that you are pasionate about Mazda's, and that you do speek the truth in 99% of what you post. However I have also noticed that you also get very upset when somebody decides to disagree or dispute what you say, hince this very long post about something that has nothing to do with you other than somebody disagreed with you.

So now having said this I have one request of you. Unless your response to this is cunstructive please do not post a response.

Since I came to this website I have tried to be fair and honest with the members. When I screw up I am the first to admit it, after all it happens. When somebody points out an error or corrects something I post I always thank them for the catch and correct the info I provided. In this case I did not and do not feel as if I have made an error, and most of all the customer in question is satisfied with the end result and that is only person that I am truely worried about being happy in this particular situation.

[TheMAN]

that's great that whoever it was *forced* the wrong mount to fit the other car... with so little difference in the spacing between the manual and auto cars, I'm sure it can be forced to fit... however, the stress on the rubber will just break it eventually, just like what happened when my motor mount was replaced under warranty but wasn't installed straight and broke again a year later

I have nothing else to say regarding this matter... the pictures I've posted are indicative enough that there ARE differences between the manual and auto mounts... there's a LOT more space to change the belts in an auto compared to a manual... nothing more than what I presented and stated will say otherwise

by choosing not to trust me and my expertise on proteges, you've chosen to insult my intelligence... questioning me on something that I can prove without doubt that I am correct is a big waste of my time and an insult... people who has been around long enough to know me know that I don't definitively state something if I have doubts about the subject... stop treating me like 99% of the people out there who talks out of their ass, my reputation on protege expertise was built upon solid knowledge which is why people come ask me questions first before asking the next person


but you're right, let's not talk about 626 parts... but I'll say this one thing, different part numbers for the "same parts" are there because of supplier differences

[njaremka]

well, i haven't actually had time to go and install it, (p/n BJ0N3906YE) and now i'm not so sure i want to.

i totally understand from those pictures that there is a difference between the automatic and manual mounts. however, i'll say it again, the parts manual i have only shows one part number for that mount - and its BJ0N3906YE. attached is the parts guide i have, and you can see that they make no distinction between manual and automatic mounts on that side. is this not a mazda manual?

[TheMAN]

that's a collision parts guide published by Mitchell... it is *not* a parts catalog published by Mazda, which is why the information is vague/erroneous

[njaremka]

well, THAT thing is going in the trash then.

Baggie - can we work out an exchange for this motor mount?

that's a collision parts guide published by Mitchell... it is *not* a parts catalog published by Mazda, which is why the information is vague/erroneous

[bagman1]

well, THAT thing is going in the trash then.

Baggie - can we work out an exchange for this motor mount?

Just give me a call and we'll get it taken care of.

JMBaggie