View Full Version : Matching 2 10" subs to my amp
Mutmatt
10-13-2006, 11:33 PM
Rockford Fosgate P8004 (http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-Rockford_Fosgate_Rockford_Fosgate_Punch_P8004_100W _x_4_Car_Amplifier_Multi_channel_Amps)
that is the amp i have but i don't know too much about audio... what is the best set of 2, 10" subs, to mate up with it?
4GIVEN
10-14-2006, 09:11 AM
Did you buy that amp already? If so, check into the pioneer tsw-256c. Great sub for the price. I have two of those, being pushed by the same power you are. Sounds awesome! Check http://www.etronics.com/product.asp?stk_code=piotsw106c&store=&catid=368
4drboost
10-14-2006, 11:21 AM
Yea, thats not idealy the best amp for subs. Now it would be great for your interior speakers. But its rated 200x2 at 2ohms, so your best bet would be to get two subs with a dual 4ohm voice coil. Then wire each one down to two ohms each, and run the amp in stereo (one sub bridging ch 1 and 2, other sub bridging ch 3 and 4) If that makes sense. And the subs should have an rms rating about 150 to 200 watts, cause you dont want to under power them. If your confused, just pm me
Ian
Mutmatt
10-14-2006, 11:42 AM
i got the amp for free (bad battery and speaker terminals [just bought them from rockford and resoldered them in])
Mutmatt
10-15-2006, 10:03 PM
ok so now looking at it you guys seem to come to the consensis of using this sub to power speakers (in cabin) so what kind of setup should i do like 2 6X9 in the rear deck and some doors or what
lisevolution
10-16-2006, 09:24 AM
I would use that amp to power all four door speakers... or 6x9's in the deck and your front components to clean up the overall sound in your car. For subs at 10" that are anywhere decent you'd want at least double that power. Rockford amps due have a tendency to put out more power than what they're rated at... too bad you didn't get this thing new with the "birth certificate" they come with to tell you what it actually put out on their bench. That helps, I once had a kicker amp that was rated about the same as this one but for whatever reason it was really putting out about 75 more watts... used that to effectively push 2 10" JL w1's like 7yrs ago but it still wasn't pumping enough for my taste at the time
Caffein8d
11-09-2006, 02:02 PM
looks like it has good power for some component speakers. as for 6x9's in the rear deck, people have told me just to leave the speakers in the door, they sound louder. But WHAT THE FUCK DO I KNOW?!
damn MutMatt.
MrDiggler
11-09-2006, 10:37 PM
You can run some subs off of it. If they still build Rockfords like they used to, it will have plenty of balls. One of the more impressive systems I heard back in the day used a RF Punch 150 to run the dogshit out of a pair of 15's. That said, do not hook up a 2 ohm load to each bridged side of the amp unless you are absolutely certain the amp is still rated for 2 ohms when bridged down from 4 to 2 channels. Not many are unless they are also rated for 1 ohm with unbridged channels. When two channels are bridged into one, that new single channel effectively "sees" half the impedence you are presenting it. If you put a 2 ohm load on a bridged channel, that channel will see a 1 ohm load. It might work if you were able to keep it cool enough, but I wouldn't recommend it. Some amps are built specifically to handle 1 ohm (or lower) loads, but I'm not sure if that amp was built for it. Not to mention your damping factor usually drops like a rock with the really low impedence loads. You get more power but less control over the sub. I cheat and run a single JL 12W3D6 with both voice coils paralleled for a 3 ohm load. The factory Kenwood MSP amp is bridged (and therefore seeing 1.5 ohms, just below what it's rated for) and provides a shocking amount of output...it sounds awesome...but it runs hot as hell and it's a miracle I haven't killed it yet.
A 4 ohm 10" sub on each bridged channel would give you a nice, safe setup, and I bet it would hit pretty hard if you choose wisely on your subs and get the enclosure right. If you're not wanting monster "wake the neighbors" bass, I'd go with a good single 12" DVC sub (hook one voice coil per bridged channel) and keep some trunk space. My recommendation would be JL Audio subs in a sealed enclosure unless you have room to go with a ported box and tune it right. l still haven't heard anything that impresses me more than a JL, and that's why I've always come back to them for over 10 years now. Good luck with it.
*edit* I checked Rockford's website for the power specs. It is not rated for 1 ohm operation. 4 ohms is as low as is recommended when it's bridged.
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200 W x 4 @ 2 Ohms RMS
400 W x 2 @ 4 Ohms bridged RMS
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Dude, if this thing will put out a true 400 W RMS x 2 when bridged, I'd sure as hell use it for subs! Another option would be to run two channels in stereo to your front speakers and then bridge two for a sub. You can use it on your smaller speakers just fine, but 100 true watts (or more if it's underrated) is a lot to be using for your full range speakers, and you better have them crossed over to keep the sub bass out. It would almost seem a waste to use an 800 watt amp only for your full range speakers. Just my .02
Mutmatt
11-09-2006, 10:41 PM
what about running this on interior speakers like 6X9 and doors or something like htat?
MrDiggler
11-09-2006, 10:55 PM
See edit above.
Mutmatt
11-09-2006, 10:58 PM
lol so i want to 10"ers could you link me :)
MrDiggler
11-11-2006, 01:54 AM
After a quick look, here's what I'd go with. You might want to download the manual and see what you think. If you have a local dealer for JL Audio I'd go check them out (supposedly you can't buy JL online).
http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=24
woodstockstr
12-09-2006, 07:41 PM
i would go with some focal access 6x9 and 6.5 in the front. but what do i know..... its what a do for a living
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