Any US Mazdaspeed3 sightings

[rbmazda3]

Anyone picked up their MS3 stateside yet?

[neit_jnf]

I saw a Black one with manufacturer plates in the streets of AnnArbor, MI. It was a couple weeks ago at night, I followed it for a bit, two older guys were in there.

Looks nice!

[NoVa 2.0]

I've been on the lookout here in Northern Va/DC, haven't seen one yet?

[rbmazda3]

I know Canada has started shipping cars but I think it's late October early November for us folk. :(

[Rainman]

I've seen one in London, Ontario last week. I know that Ottawa has at least one at Bank St. Mazda that arrived on Friday. It is already spoken for however.

R

[seanw]

I've seen one in London, Ontario last week. I know that Ottawa has at least one at Bank St. Mazda that arrived on Friday. It is already spoken for however.

R
I'll be viewing mine on Monday! Just got the call today. Yeehaw! That's one for TX. Actually, they've had some as part of a Need for Speed contest on display at malls in TX and AZ. A couple of people have taken delivery in Long Beach and I think there's one at a dealer in Oregon. The first batch of US cars is now delivered or a day or two away almost everywhere.

[Rainman]

I'll be viewing mine on Monday! Just got the call today. Yeehaw! That's one for TX. Actually, they've had some as part of a Need for Speed contest on display at malls in TX and AZ. A couple of people have taken delivery in Long Beach and I think there's one at a dealer in Oregon. The first batch of US cars is now delivered or a day or two away almost everywhere.

Are you getting rid of the MS6 or adding this one to the stable?

R

[Yoarashi]

Ive scene 2 in nova....in my garage! Just got em today.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/lmonds/ms3/IMG_0074.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/lmonds/ms3/IMG_0072.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/lmonds/ms3/IMG_0071.jpg

[JOMO]

You have 2. Lucky bastard.

[rbmazda3]

Ive scene 2 in nova....in my garage! Just got em today.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/lmonds/ms3/IMG_0074.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/lmonds/ms3/IMG_0072.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/lmonds/ms3/IMG_0071.jpg

Black Mica and Cosmic Blue? Sure doesn't look very black in the photos.

[CHICO2003]

congrats... but why 2?

[got_titan]

heres mine......

[Rainman]

Here is a pic of mine this morning outside a hotel in Ottawa. Drove it back home 600 km this afternoon. Rained almost the entire way, but the MS3 handled it easy. Awesome little car.

R

[Kansei]

already tinted :P

congrats man, it looks awesome in red. Red or black look sweet on it. Pisses me off that the MSP was never offered in red though.

[GHOSTWHISPER]

I was going to pick one up today but the dealer markup is just insane. I was going to get the Grand touring, msrp was 24,600, dealer markup was 29,999.

They are incredible though. Maybe in sixth months I will pick one up. I hated the normal 3, but OMG i couldnt believe the mazdaspeed, simply insane.

[Kansei]

holy freakin dealer markup. That's ridiculous. If I was a dealership, if someone questioned the dealer markup I'd just drop the bullshit and sell it to them at straight MSRP and still make a healthy profit. The extra money isn't worth losing a customer over..

[ottawaP5]

Here is a pic of mine this morning outside a hotel in Ottawa. Drove it back home 600 km this afternoon. Rained almost the entire way, but the MS3 handled it easy. Awesome little car.

R

Congrats! Looks great with the tint. Will you be driving it in winter?

[NoVa 2.0]

Ive scene 2 in nova....in my garage! Just got em today.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/lmonds/ms3/IMG_0074.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/lmonds/ms3/IMG_0072.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/lmonds/ms3/IMG_0071.jpg


Wow Congrats man! How do u like them thus far?

[Rainman]

Congrats! Looks great with the tint. Will you be driving it in winter?

I won't be....but my wife will....LOL! It's her car. She wasn't happy that I traded in her MSP on it, but now she loves it already and we have only had it for 3 days.

R

[Yoarashi]

congrats... but why 2?


my wife wanted one as well

[Yoarashi]

Wow Congrats man! How do u like them thus far?


They are fast as hell...but lets not talk about that. They corner carve like you wont believe. Its crazy to think mazda is doing a coilover pack for these. They already handle amazingly well.

The lack of mp3 support in either the sport or the gt trims is complete bs.

[AndrewW]

There's one at the dealer in Daytona. Silver GT, not for sale, unless you have $36000!

[jbiird317]

my wife wanted one as well

wow 2 ms3's!? Congrats and welcome man! you guys have one sweet lookin garage there...

as far as the mp3 support goes, there are 2 options: in the center console there is an aux input that you can hook an ipod up to OR you can get the mazda ipod link from the dealer. Im not sure if this is available stateside yet, but I did see one on ebay

[CTGrey02]

wow 2 ms3's!? Congrats and welcome man! you guys have one sweet lookin garage there...

as far as the mp3 support goes, there are 2 options: in the center console there is an aux input that you can hook an ipod up to OR you can get the mazda ipod link from the dealer. Im not sure if this is available stateside yet, but I did see one on ebay

Not to sound like an ass, but you'd be hard pressed finding an aftermarket CD player that doesnt play MP3's. Part of the reason I was looking at this car is that Im sick of modifying my vehicles, stereo's included... I dont have, nor do I intend to buy an ipod so I'm a bit perterbed about the oversight. Theres no reason they couldnt have a MP3/WMA capable DVD/CD drive in the deck. The Navigation is DVD correct?

[jbiird317]

Not to sound like an ass, but you'd be hard pressed finding an aftermarket CD player that doesnt play MP3's. Part of the reason I was looking at this car is that Im sick of modifying my vehicles, stereo's included... I dont have, nor do I intend to buy an ipod so I'm a bit perterbed about the oversight. Theres no reason they couldnt have a MP3/WMA capable DVD/CD drive in the deck. The Navigation is DVD correct?

i dont have the navi, so I'm not really sure. And I guess I wasnt thinking about mp3 cd's, Ive had some sort of an mp3 player for the last 7 or 8 years, so ive never had to use them. I guess you guys may be right then, this may have been an oversight by mazda

[Hikaru9]

Not to sound like an ass, but you'd be hard pressed finding an aftermarket CD player that doesnt play MP3's. Part of the reason I was looking at this car is that Im sick of modifying my vehicles, stereo's included... I dont have, nor do I intend to buy an ipod so I'm a bit perterbed about the oversight. Theres no reason they couldnt have a MP3/WMA capable DVD/CD drive in the deck. The Navigation is DVD correct?

I agree with you 100%. I mean who cares about a 6 CD changer when you can have 1 CD with around 10 CDs worth of songs (depending on compression)? I love my Alpine in the RSX, but after a while the face plate started to rattle from taking the faceplate off too many times. Bottom line, I don't feel like replacing the factory unit in my MS3. Oh wait... I can't. >_< (stupid Bose system)

[Hikaru9]

There's one at the dealer in Daytona. Silver GT, not for sale, unless you have $36000!

For that price, you'd be insane not to get a loaded STi instead.
(I'm sure I'll love my MS3, but if I had $36,000...) keke ^_^;;

[Newf]

cd changers are a thing of the past. Might as well have an 8 track :)

Get an auxmod or Audiolink guys. The Audiolink which I use, you can stick a USB thumb drive into it, or use anything through it's mini jack like an mp3 player, and there's an ipod version as well. You can still use the steering wheel controls with the Audiolink and the guys that sell it are great. Search for it over at m a z d a 6 c l u b .com

[CTGrey02]

Your still talking extra accessories though. CD-R's cost a neglidgeable amount and I can have a good selection of music just in my sun visor to keep me occupied. I dont want to do anything extra, I dont want wires running around the cabin and I dont want anything tacked on. I can't fathom why they'd overlook that. My salesman is going to hate me.

[ZMZMSpeed3]

Just got mine last thursday and it is the most fun thing in the world to drive. Getting on and off the interstate is a trip in itself.

[Newf]

My audiolink had 1 wire, 3 feet long, it plugs into the back of the stereo headunit, and runs into my glove box. you can't see any cables. And it took 10 mins to install. Also, my thumb drive is about 2"long by half an inch wide. How big is your visor that holds cds's? how about the cd's themselves?

[CTGrey02]

The whole point is you need to buy more stuff to do what you want. The cd's in my visor are out of sight out of mind and easily accessable when I want them. Unimpressed.

[Shift_Lost]

I seen a blue one driving so i went to one dealership around here and they had a black one, dealer markup was 10 grand, they wanted damn near 38k for it.

fully loaded


then i went 5 miles down to the next dealership and they said they had 2 but they only had a 4k markup and they sold within hours.(shocked)



im waiting till next winter (07') to get mine.(peep)

[jbiird317]

The whole point is you need to buy more stuff to do what you want. The cd's in my visor are out of sight out of mind and easily accessable when I want them. Unimpressed.

haha this is getting kinda funny.... obviously mazda couldnt please everybody. Im sure he thinks his thumb drive is out of sight and out of mind too.

I think that mazda did a good job adding some cool options (like the aux input) without raising the price of the car too high. I know that you will agree that mazda really did good making this car, I personally wont let something i dislike about it ruin the overall experience of it for me, so im guessing u'll find a way around the mp3 issue too. (ha either that or ur salesman really will hate you lol)

[CTGrey02]

I havent seen a car in the last 3 years that hasnt had one (or an option). Oh well, it's a dead horse now.

[Mspeed3]

Just bought mine yesterday Everett, Washington

[GHOSTWHISPER]

how much?

[Hikaru9]

I seen a blue one driving so i went to one dealership around here and they had a black one, dealer markup was 10 grand, they wanted damn near 38k for it.

fully loaded


then i went 5 miles down to the next dealership and they said they had 2 but they only had a 4k markup and they sold within hours.(shocked)



im waiting till next winter (07') to get mine.(peep)

10k mark-up? Those people are out of their minds. -_-;
Wouldn't you rather get a loaded G35 for that price?
I'm grateful that I'm getting mine without any mark-up. (NoVA FTW!)
(just 2 more months >_<)

[AndrewW]

10k mark-up? Those people are out of their minds. -_-;
Wouldn't you rather get a loaded G35 for that price?
I'm grateful that I'm getting mine without any mark-up. (NoVA FTW!)
(just 2 more months >_<)

Thats what I was told when I went to see the silver gt (msrp). They changed their mind. So, don't get your hopes up too high.

[Hikaru9]

Thats what I was told when I went to see the silver gt (msrp). They changed their mind. So, don't get your hopes up too high.

I have the purchase order with the price written down by the dealership. It lists the quoted price, my non-refundable deposit, as well as my signature for the order. Any fudging of the price would be like... illegal. ^_^v

Did your dealership place an order for you specifically? or were you inquiring about one that was already in the showroom?

[AndrewW]

I have the purchase order with the price written down by the dealership. It lists the quoted price, my non-refundable deposit, as well as my signature for the order. Any fudging of the price would be like... illegal. ^_^v

Did your dealership place an order for you specifically? or were you inquiring about one that was already in the showroom?

I was the fist person in this area to inquire, and place an order for a cosmic blue gt, with no nav. We agreed that I would pay sticker price, no $ down, they said it wouldn't be need needed since I just bought a new Mazda 6 in July. So, they get a silver gt in with nav and ask me to look, or buy it. I said, "nice car, but I wanted a cosmic gt without nav".After looking at it, the silver with nav looked pretty good to me, "lets go for it! After that it all went downhill. They made me an offer for my trade (perfect P5,36,000 miles),$5500, and $31000 for the speed 3. Total BS, they lied. That is not sticker, let alone the insult of only $5500 for my P5, and a markup of $3800 for the speed 3. If you don't have a signed contract, with vin #, you might get surprised when you go to pick her up.(pissed) I really hope it works out for you, as I now have a sower taste in my mouth with Mazda, especially after buying cars from them since 1981.

[AndrewW]

I was the fist person in this area to inquire, and place an order for a cosmic blue gt, with no nav. We agreed that I would pay sticker price, no $ down, they said it wouldn't be need needed since I just bought a new Mazda 6 in July. So, they get a silver gt in with nav and ask me to look, or buy it. I said, "nice car, but I wanted a cosmic gt without nav".After looking at it, the silver with nav looked pretty good to me, "lets go for it! After that it all went downhill. They made me an offer for my trade (perfect P5,36,000 miles),$5500, and $31000 for the speed 3. Total BS, they lied. That is not sticker, let alone the insult of only $5500 for my P5, and a markup of $3800 for the speed 3. If you don't have a signed contract, with vin #, you might get surprised when you go to pick her up.(pissed) I really hope it works out for you, as I now have a sower taste in my mouth with Mazda, especially after buying cars from them since 1981.

I meant to type, without vin#. Sorry

[highwaypizza]

Heh. I have a signed contract for $20.5k without VIN on a Black Mica GT. And it was the salesman's idea in case something hapened to the car during shipping I wouldn't be obligated to buy a damaged car.

[AndrewW]

Heh. I have a signed contract for $20.5k without VIN on a Black Mica GT. And it was the salesman's idea in case something hapened to the car during shipping I wouldn't be obligated to buy a damaged car.

Excellent

[Kansei]

omfg (rofl) 5.5k for a p5 with mileage that low?? Hell I'll give you 6k for it right now! :P

[Mspeed3]

10k mark-up? Those people are out of their minds. -_-;
Wouldn't you rather get a loaded G35 for that price?
I'm grateful that I'm getting mine without any mark-up. (NoVA FTW!)
(just 2 more months >_<)
yah got mine for 1,000 over invoice

[Hikaru9]

I was the fist person in this area to inquire, and place an order for a cosmic blue gt, with no nav. We agreed that I would pay sticker price, no $ down, they said it wouldn't be need needed since I just bought a new Mazda 6 in July. So, they get a silver gt in with nav and ask me to look, or buy it. I said, "nice car, but I wanted a cosmic gt without nav".After looking at it, the silver with nav looked pretty good to me, "lets go for it! After that it all went downhill. They made me an offer for my trade (perfect P5,36,000 miles),$5500, and $31000 for the speed 3. Total BS, they lied. That is not sticker, let alone the insult of only $5500 for my P5, and a markup of $3800 for the speed 3. If you don't have a signed contract, with vin #, you might get surprised when you go to pick her up.(pissed) I really hope it works out for you, as I now have a sower taste in my mouth with Mazda, especially after buying cars from them since 1981.

Wow~ I'm so sorry that you had such a horrible dealership experience. I'll be sure to get the vin # as soon as the car is built. ^_^v I've had great luck with my Acura as far as the dealership experience went over the past few years, and frankly that's one thing I'm concerned with the Mazda. Are Mazda dealerships generally decent with customer service? Buying the car is easy, but quality customer service from the dealership isn't always easy to come by.

[Hikaru9]

yah got mine for 1,000 over invoice

You got yours under the MSRP? That's awesome! *^_^*

I hate haggling, so I usually just pay whatever they throw at me.
("Just get me the car all right?") keke~
So it's a miracle that they didn't try to rip me off. =p

[Antonio DiMarco]

Wow~ I'm so sorry that you had such a horrible dealership experience. I'll be sure to get the vin # as soon as the car is built. ^_^v I've had great luck with my Acura as far as the dealership experience went over the past few years, and frankly that's one thing I'm concerned with the Mazda. Are Mazda dealerships generally decent with customer service? Buying the car is easy, but quality customer service from the dealership isn't always easy to come by.

Depends on the dealer. I have nothing but but great things to say about my Mazda dealer's service department. Then again they're others who haven't been so lucky. Then other people who think the dealer owes them something after they jerk them around and shirk loyalty.

Some dealers are HORRIBLE, but they're are consumers who are just as bad. It goes both ways.

It's not only Mazda either. I owned a Honda and the dealer was unprofessional and useless. And a Lexus Dealer I visited to test drive a Used Acura MDX treated me like a second class citizen because I wasn't interested in a new car.

Too many people generalize.

[nondual]

Honda and Toyota dealers are arrogant because their cars are so reliable. The cars sell themselves. It's justified arrogance.

The Dodge dealer wouldn't even let me test drive because I wasn't buying THAT particular day... That's unjustified arrogance.

[rotaryrider36]

Honda and Toyota dealers are arrogant because their cars are so reliable. The cars sell themselves. It's justified arrogance.

The Dodge dealer wouldn't even let me test drive because I wasn't buying THAT particular day... That's unjustified arrogance.

Just some food for thought. On any any given day, a car dealership could have several people comming in to a dealership for "joyrides". It happens, period. I completely agree that if someone is looking for a new car, they should be able to drive it first and compare it with other models they may be considering. Afterall, you wouldnt buy new shoes without trying them on right? However, on average, a car salesman works 12 hours a day, possibly more if a customer wants to buy a car shortly before closing. Most salesman also work strictly on commission, meaning if they dont sell a car, they have potentionally just worked a 12 hour day and possibly a sixty hour week without earning a paycheck. Now if a salesman took everysingle person who walked in for a test drive who did not really want to buy a car that day, they are basically working for free and missing other potential sales for that day. Even if a salesman is only away on a test drive for ten minutes, those ten minutes can be the difference between him meeting a customer who really is serious about purchasing an automobile and someone who just wants to drive a car just for the sake of seeing how it drives and saying they've driven one.
Like I said, its just some food for thought. If someone is definately in the market to purchase a vehicle, they have every right to drive that vehicle first. No one should be made to buy a product without trying it first. But people who are out there just trying to get joyrides, or see what a car drives like because they might consider buying it a year or two down the road can basically cause somebody a paycheck. And think what you want about car salesmen, but they ARE NOT ALL out there to rob your wallet. Some are just trying to make a decent living while working with the things they love the most...cars.

[nondual]

Just some food for thought. On any any given day, a car dealership could have several people comming in to a dealership for "joyrides". It happens, period. I completely agree that if someone is looking for a new car, they should be able to drive it first and compare it with other models they may be considering. Afterall, you wouldnt buy new shoes without trying them on right? However, on average, a car salesman works 12 hours a day, possibly more if a customer wants to buy a car shortly before closing. Most salesman also work strictly on commission, meaning if they dont sell a car, they have potentionally just worked a 12 hour day and possibly a sixty hour week without earning a paycheck. Now if a salesman took everysingle person who walked in for a test drive who did not really want to buy a car that day, they are basically working for free and missing other potential sales for that day. Even if a salesman is only away on a test drive for ten minutes, those ten minutes can be the difference between him meeting a customer who really is serious about purchasing an automobile and someone who just wants to drive a car just for the sake of seeing how it drives and saying they've driven one.
Like I said, its just some food for thought. If someone is definately in the market to purchase a vehicle, they have every right to drive that vehicle first. No one should be made to buy a product without trying it first. But people who are out there just trying to get joyrides, or see what a car drives like because they might consider buying it a year or two down the road can basically cause somebody a paycheck. And think what you want about car salesmen, but they ARE NOT ALL out there to rob your wallet. Some are just trying to make a decent living while working with the things they love the most...cars.
Yeah, screw 'food' for thought. EVERY other dealer gave me a test drive and the Dodge dealership was empty. I think today I'll drive up in my new car and 'return' their brochure and explain specifically why I didn't think twice about Dodge after the salesman refused to let me even drive one. Yeah, I live in a college town, and yeah, I look mid-20s instead of mid-30s - but he didn't ask me, he just ASSUMED that I was a college kid looking to joyride, especially because I was looking for manual shifts and R/Ts and I wasn't going to buy a car THAT day. It's not a moral decision, he lost a sale that he MIGHT have had if he'd have let me drive the damned car! And of course, I"m telling EVERYONE about that dealership's lousy behavior.

EVERY other dealer I went to in town gave me a test-drive - some of them several - and although I didn't buy the VW GTI, I DID specifically compliment them on their exquisite salesmanship. If I was buying on shopping experience alone, I'd be driving a GTI right now.

[BKK Jack]

Yeah, screw 'food' for thought. EVERY other dealer gave me a test drive and the Dodge dealership was empty. I think today I'll drive up in my new car and 'return' their brochure and explain specifically why I didn't think twice about Dodge after the salesman refused to let me even drive one. Yeah, I live in a college town, and yeah, I look mid-20s instead of mid-30s - but he didn't ask me, he just ASSUMED that I was a college kid looking to joyride, especially because I was looking for manual shifts and R/Ts and I wasn't going to buy a car THAT day. It's not a moral decision, he lost a sale that he MIGHT have had if he'd have let me drive the damned car! And of course, I"m telling EVERYONE about that dealership's lousy behavior.

EVERY other dealer I went to in town gave me a test-drive - some of them several - and although I didn't buy the VW GTI, I DID specifically compliment them on their exquisite salesmanship. If I was buying on shopping experience alone, I'd be driving a GTI right now.

When I bought my GTI in 1986 it was due in part because the salesman gave me the keys, and asked me to just be back in about 30 minutes. It was great listening to the car, and not the sell while driving, and although I wasn't planning on buying a car that day, I drove that same car home that night.

[rotaryrider36]

Yeah, screw 'food' for thought. EVERY other dealer gave me a test drive and the Dodge dealership was empty. I think today I'll drive up in my new car and 'return' their brochure and explain specifically why I didn't think twice about Dodge after the salesman refused to let me even drive one. Yeah, I live in a college town, and yeah, I look mid-20s instead of mid-30s - but he didn't ask me, he just ASSUMED that I was a college kid looking to joyride, especially because I was looking for manual shifts and R/Ts and I wasn't going to buy a car THAT day. It's not a moral decision, he lost a sale that he MIGHT have had if he'd have let me drive the damned car! And of course, I"m telling EVERYONE about that dealership's lousy behavior.

EVERY other dealer I went to in town gave me a test-drive - some of them several - and although I didn't buy the VW GTI, I DID specifically compliment them on their exquisite salesmanship. If I was buying on shopping experience alone, I'd be driving a GTI right now.

I understand that and can understand why you feel that way. Id be pissed as well. Afterall, I dont personally know you and you were apparently looking for a car. Was it wrong of the salesman to just assume you were out for a joyride? absolutely. However, the only point im trying to make is that when I read your comment I was reminded about how many people get pissed off when a dealership wont let them test drive a car when they arnt really looking to buy. Many folks just assume that a dealership owes them a free test drive but in reality if someone is not prepared to offer a salesman their business then they shouldnt expect a salesman to offer them a test drive. i know your situation is different as you were legitimately in the market for a vehicle. Unfortunately its the folks who arnt really looking for a car that ruin it for other younger looking enthusiasts such as you and myself who are in the market for a car. On another sidenote, the MS3 is being released in very limited quantities. Some dealerships are only getting a couple. Again, if a test drive was offered to every customer who just wanted to drive the car, then you would end up with the only couple of MS3 the dealership was getting bumped up in miles. I dont know about you, but I wouldnt want to buy a brand new turbocharged car that has a hundred some odd test driven miles on it, would you? Do you want someone of any age, test driving a car hard that you are considering buying? Its those same people who come into the dealership and arnt really considering buying a car, that get offered test drives and have no respect for a break in period or anything. I cant even begin to tell you the number of MS6's Ive seen where the people redline the car every gear on a test drive just to see what it can do. It makes it very difficult to find an unmolested model when you are shopping.
However, I wish you luck with your new purchase. Drive safely and enjoy. There is nothing like the feeling of driving a brand new car!

[nondual]

I understand that and can understand why you feel that way. Id be pissed as well. Afterall, I dont personally know you and you were apparently looking for a car. Was it wrong of the salesman to just assume you were out for a joyride? absolutely. However, the only point im trying to make is that when I read your comment I was reminded about how many people get pissed off when a dealership wont let them test drive a car when they arnt really looking to buy. Many folks just assume that a dealership owes them a free test drive but in reality if someone is not prepared to offer a salesman their business then they shouldnt expect a salesman to offer them a test drive. i know your situation is different as you were legitimately in the market for a vehicle. Unfortunately its the folks who arnt really looking for a car that ruin it for other younger looking enthusiasts such as you and myself who are in the market for a car. On another sidenote, the MS3 is being released in very limited quantities. Some dealerships are only getting a couple. Again, if a test drive was offered to every customer who just wanted to drive the car, then you would end up with the only couple of MS3 the dealership was getting bumped up in miles. I dont know about you, but I wouldnt want to buy a brand new turbocharged car that has a hundred some odd test driven miles on it, would you? Do you want someone of any age, test driving a car hard that you are considering buying? Its those same people who come into the dealership and arnt really considering buying a car, that get offered test drives and have no respect for a break in period or anything. I cant even begin to tell you the number of MS6's Ive seen where the people redline the car every gear on a test drive just to see what it can do. It makes it very difficult to find an unmolested model when you are shopping.
However, I wish you luck with your new purchase. Drive safely and enjoy. There is nothing like the feeling of driving a brand new car!
Yes, you're right about some things. Three years ago, the Mitsu dealer wouldn't let me test-drive the previous year's EVO because I was a broke student. I get that.

I specifically told the Dodge dealer I'd be buying a car within the next month or two and quite possibly a great deal sooner.

[rotaryrider36]

Yes, you're right about some things. Three years ago, the Mitsu dealer wouldn't let me test-drive the previous year's EVO because I was a broke student. I get that.

I specifically told the Dodge dealer I'd be buying a car within the next month or two and quite possibly a great deal sooner.

Well than that is his bad for not taking advantage of a situation where a buyer was obviously in the market for a new car. If you told the salesman that and he didnt see it as an open opportunity to earn your business and follow up with you to get you the vehicle you really wanted than all I can say is that he was a poor salesman. But between me and you it seems to have worked out in the best situation imaginable as you now have a new MS3 instead of a dodge. Pretty sweet

[AFwestPunk]

I know my roomie has the first one in the 757

[jtom]

This is a stupid question but after reading theses posts, is there a maximum amount of miles they can have on one of their cars before its considered used? Is there a limit?

After seeing the one post where the guy said come back in 30 minutes I thought that was interesting.

Good thing you did get the mazda because the dodge would have probably broken down by now.

[nondual]

This is a stupid question but after reading theses posts, is there a maximum amount of miles they can have on one of their cars before its considered used? Is there a limit?

After seeing the one post where the guy said come back in 30 minutes I thought that was interesting.

Good thing you did get the mazda because the dodge would have probably broken down by now.
I don't know about maximum miles.

Mine had 16 before I test drove it - 19 when I bought it (after my test drive). If I'd have waited for the one on which I put the deposit, I'd prolly have had almost no miles - just whatever is accrued on the assembly line.

Are modern Dodges still 'dodgy'?

[AntimonyER]

Hey yall, I got mine (Red GT) yesterday in Savannah for MSRP. Had 45 miles on it, but 23 of those were from my test drive. Except for a bit of low balling on my trade (2003 Corvette Z06), I was pleased with my dealer. The dealer in Hilton Head had a sport, but they had a 3k mark-up.

[Kansei]

nice trade in :D Didn't like the corvette or somethin? Welcome to the forums

[DeepBlue]

My black MS3 GT had 7 miles on it when I picked it up. Paid MSRP $24,590.00 for it.

The dealer said they were going to mark the next set of arrivals $1,000.00 over MSRP due to the great demand for this ride. He is selling them as soon as they hit the pavement.

I had to put $500.00 deposit that day just to make sure he didn't sell it to someone else.

Glad I bought it.

[highwaypizza]

This is a stupid question but after reading theses posts, is there a maximum amount of miles they can have on one of their cars before its considered used? Is there a limit?

After seeing the one post where the guy said come back in 30 minutes I thought that was interesting.

Good thing you did get the mazda because the dodge would have probably broken down by now.


Straight from a dealership owner that I know:

A car can no longer be sold as 'new' once it has been titled. SO if a MS3, for example, was test driven extensively at a dealereship and had 500 miles on it they could sell it as new as long as it was never titled at the DMV.

[spike blue]

how many ms3 will they make ?? it will special edition like the msp or will they make them in 08???

[CHICO2003]

My black MS3 GT had 7 miles on it when I picked it up. Paid MSRP $24,590.00 for it.

The dealer said they were going to mark the next set of arrivals $1,000.00 over MSRP due to the great demand for this ride. He is selling them as soon as they hit the pavement.

I had to put $500.00 deposit that day just to make sure he didn't sell it to someone else.

Glad I bought it.

Congratulations on the new ride. From what I've read, this looks like a killer ride. I'm scheduled to see the first one hit CT next Thursday. I'm not sold on the station wagon look so hopefully my mind will change once I see it in person. As far as this price gouging nonsens goes... Personally, most of what car salesman say is total BS. If I had just paid sticker for a car and heard what you heard, my BS meter would tell me he's just trying to make me feel as if I got a deal. Even if they ARE planning on adding a grand to the sticker (something that's completely reprehensible. Very few cars are deserving of such treatment) that doesn't mean they'll actually get away with it. The market will dictate where the pricing ends up.

I feel the sticker price is "reasonable". It's not the "bargain" many are saying it is but it's certainly not a rip off either. Paying more, on the other hand, would be. When you can buy a WRX for $200 over invoice (which translates into about $3k less than sticker) for those cross-shopping the two, the 2 cars are about the same price. Pound for pound, the WRX in this case represents the better value. Despite the fact that it has less power, it's actually faster in every category and can be made to go ever faster for very little $$$. People cross-shopping these two cars know this. If the market follows suit, mazda dealers will not only do a 180 on their price-gouging tactics but those of us who were savy enough to wait will be rewarded with the ability to (like every othe car on the market) negotiate a price far less than sticker.

Though it's a bit of a risk, if the look of this car appeals to me when I see it in person, I'll most likely wait untl next February. (when I hear the next batch will arrive.) Being in CT, that'll be during the heart of winter. Nobody's paying more than sticker for a high-powered fwd car with summer tires when there's 3 feet of snow on the ground. Because the initial 'craze' will have mostly died off (combined with the aformentioned shitty weather) I'd be 'mildly surprised' if I'm not able to buy the car for at least $1k less than sticker by then.

[rotaryrider36]

This is a stupid question but after reading theses posts, is there a maximum amount of miles they can have on one of their cars before its considered used? Is there a limit?

After seeing the one post where the guy said come back in 30 minutes I thought that was interesting.

Good thing you did get the mazda because the dodge would have probably broken down by now.

Just like highway pizza said, a vehicle can still be sold as new as long as it was never titled. Technically, alot of cars are sold as new, even though they have three or four thousand miles on them. They are usually demo cars that the managers at the dealerships drive. The only time there is a mileage limit is when a car is leased. Even though the car was never titled and is still considered new, I believe a leased car cant have more than 5000 miles at the time of sale.