View Full Version : Liquid to Air TMIC for CX-7
4DRHTRD
09-23-2006, 09:31 PM
I had this made for my car and it is a direct bolt in for the CX-7 as well
Please do not ask LA vs AA IC questions, there is TONS of good information out there both pro and con for either IC available all over the web.
I am not the shop, I am the customer and have paid to have this prototype made for everyone else who wants a CLEAN alternative.
All that being said, here is the first few pics. More will be taken during the install process this weekend.
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spike blue
09-25-2006, 10:06 PM
looks good what is the difference and how much hp will gain???
4DRHTRD
10-04-2006, 01:23 AM
We will have test results soon, I will post them when I have them.
Mike
1Sleepy93
10-04-2006, 02:36 PM
Looks interesting. Shouldn't suffer as much as the AA for heat soak as long as it has a reservoir that isn't directly above the motor.
Probably not the cheapest thing though is it?
09factor
10-16-2006, 10:30 PM
Let us know what increase it gives you. And where in Phx do you live?
njcx7
11-25-2006, 12:10 AM
what exactly is this metal thing and what benefit does it provide?
Kooldino
11-25-2006, 01:29 AM
Temp thread shutdown - please refrain from promoting these guys until further notice.
Kooldino
11-27-2006, 03:14 PM
re-opened. If metalmanfab plans on doing business here, or you plan on representing him, be sure to apply for an AV status. Thanks.
9Hooker
11-30-2006, 12:31 AM
Curious about cost and inlet temps, pressure drop before/after the IC upgrade. Does anyone have any more info?
Haltech
11-13-2007, 03:08 AM
Nice setup but your heat exchanger is too small. Think about the size of the HE on the Cobra and Lightning... Its double the size of yours stock. Our intercooler manifold at the base of the blower is 1/4 the size of the MS3/6/CX7 intercooler and when we went to larger HE's, are cooling got better. I think if you get a larger heat exchanger for the front, youre going to see a dramatic temp reduction on your current setup. I would triple the size of it.
otnielarencibia
11-13-2007, 09:10 AM
Here is what I know about intercoolers.....not much but what I know....
Air to Air intercoolers like the ones in our cars are good for lowering intake temperatures. But they can only lower the temp to whatever the temperature is at the asphalt.....Liquid to air intercoolers like the one here can drop temperatures even further than that of an air to air intercooler.
crashkelly
11-13-2007, 09:36 AM
Here is what I know about intercoolers.....not much but what I know....
Air to Air intercoolers like the ones in our cars are good for lowering intake temperatures. But they can only lower the temp to whatever the temperature is at the asphalt.....Liquid to air intercoolers like the one here can drop temperatures even further than that of an air to air intercooler.
three things...
1.) Thank you captain obvious (I should mention that AtoA can lower temps below asphalt temps...dont know where you got that ridiculous info...why would you even compare the temperature inside the intercooler to the temperature of the ground? The lowest temp you can get is slightly cooler than ambient from the cool air passing through when you are moving...or it could be lower with intercooler sprayers)
2.) the OP stated in the first post this thread should not be about the difference between AtoA and AtoW intercoolers
3.) this has been a dead thread for a year and if you read the OPs signature he is not a part of this forum anymore....
otnielarencibia
11-13-2007, 02:32 PM
http://www.precisionturbo.net/intercoolers-display.php?company_id=101795&category_id=3013
Why don't you sit down and start reading information from the people who make the intercoolers....not buy them!
"Remember, however, that an air-to-air intercooler will only cool the air charge down to ambient air temperature. So, if the outside temperature is 110° F just off the asphalt roadway, this may be as cool as your air charge will get - and that's why race applications use liquid-to-air intercoolers!"
crashkelly
11-13-2007, 02:47 PM
http://www.precisionturbo.net/intercoolers-display.php?company_id=101795&category_id=3013
Why don't you sit down and start reading information from the people who make the intercoolers....not buy them!
"Remember, however, that an air-to-air intercooler will only cool the air charge down to ambient air temperature. So, if the outside temperature is 110° F just off the asphalt roadway, this may be as cool as your air charge will get - and that's why race applications use liquid-to-air intercoolers!"
umm yeah i said the same thing...read more carefully...its about being slightly less than the ambient temp of the air ABOVE the roadway (um, like i said in almost the same words as your source)...you described it as the temperature OF the roadway (your source, and I, were talking about ambient air temps above the road which are cooler than the road...you were talking about the direct temp of hot asphalt)...so congrats you were still wrong the first time and I was still right.
And u still bumped an old thread that specifically said not to discuss the differences between the two. way to go...
crashkelly
11-13-2007, 02:52 PM
they can only lower the temp to whatever the temperature is at the asphalt.
um nooo they can lower them to slightly lower than the ambient temperature of the air ABOVE it...your intercooler air will not be the temperature of black pavement that has been soaking in the sun all day...it will be the temperature of the colder air above the ground flowing through the intercooler...LIKE I SAID ALREADY
SuperStretch18
11-13-2007, 04:02 PM
And u still bumped an old thread that specifically said not to discuss the differences between the two. way to go...
Calm down dude; it wasn't him that brought the thread back. Look at the chain. BTW, that quote was actually from the manufacturer link and did not say that you were measuring the temp of the asphalt (which on a hot day can be much hotter than 110 degrees), but the temp of the air above it...
Haltech
11-13-2007, 09:14 PM
Air to Air is more efficient plain and simple. You get a larger surface area of cooling than Air To Water setups. Water To Air are used when space is a concern and thats why they were developed or in obvious Marine applications.
crashkelly
11-13-2007, 09:19 PM
Calm down dude; it wasn't him that brought the thread back. Look at the chain. BTW, that quote was actually from the manufacturer link and did not say that you were measuring the temp of the asphalt (which on a hot day can be much hotter than 110 degrees), but the temp of the air above it...
ha yeah i know i can get defensive and i agree with the manufacturers quote, it was the poster who said the temp would be the same as the asphalt...his manufacturers quote actually backed up what i originally said.
basically i was saying the same exact thing you said, but the poster basically called me an idiot for not agreeing with his asphalt statement and then posted a quote that said almost the exact thing i told him.
Killer
11-13-2007, 09:53 PM
this is going nowhere fast
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