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4DRHTRD
09-22-2006, 10:17 PM
For those not reading my other forum, this is a liquid to air IC that will directly replace the factory TMIC and has a heat exchanger that goes behind the front grill to cool off the coolant (water and water wetter in AZ). We're using a Ford factory pump for easy replacement on the road for the coolant. This allows for no additional pressure drop from the factory TMIC while giving much lower intake temps than factory. We have not started testing yet (we're going to drag race the car with and w/o the factory IC vs the new IC for comparison) and there's no price yet but a ball park figure of $1700 complete is close.
The delay has been in procuring the right parts and then having them polished for a great look. There is one picture of the new IC installed previous to being polished. Also you will have to remove the duct work from the bottom of the hood which is shown in one picture. The underside looks much cleaner now and the factory heat pad goes across, you can't even tell when you see it (I know I didn't).

Please do not ask LA vs AA IC questions, there is TONS of good information out there both pro and con for either IC available all over the web.

I am not the shop, my friend Brett aka Metal Man did the fabrication.
I am the customer and have paid to have this prototype made for everyone else who wants a CLEAN alternative.
All that being said, here is the first few pics. More will be taken during the install process this weekend.
Now it's time for me to go drag race my Excursion at the track, COME ON 13's!!!

http://azspeed6.com/images/tmicinstalled%20-%20not%20polished.jpg
http://azspeed6.com/images/Polishedpartssmall.jpg
http://azspeed6.com/images/Speed6heatexchangersmall.jpg

terbow
09-22-2006, 10:22 PM
nice. you running a resevoir?

4DRHTRD
09-22-2006, 10:27 PM
No, the liquid will be held in the heat exchanger shown behind the grill. If I want to have one made later to hold ice then it can be made. We've talked of a stage 2 kit with a higher flow pump and ice resevoir later. This setup is good for 680 WHP.
Mike

terbow
09-22-2006, 10:29 PM
cool just curious cause i have an air/water i did for my protege and i was advised to run one (by a few fabricators) cause the liquid will heat soak really quick on a daily driver. looks nice cant wait to see install pics!!

MS6freek
09-22-2006, 10:52 PM
wow looks good!! how do you feel the difference???

rednecks_r_us
12-31-2006, 10:39 PM
It looks really good in person.

4DRHTRD
12-31-2006, 11:21 PM
It looks really good in person.
Thanks man!

I just tested back to back against the stock IC and with the custom IC I was getting 16.9 PSI, when I just reverted back to stock I'm now getting 13.9 PSI of boost. I did this because I couldn't get less than 16.9 PSI of boost from my new turbo kit and was getting fuel cut. The ATP kit had been tested with the stock IC and was working fine. Well I change back to stock IC and what do you know, enough pressure drop across the core to allow me to run the turbo kit until I can get it tuned with the XEDE.
3 PSI pressure drop!!! (omg)

rednecks_r_us
12-31-2006, 11:25 PM
Wow.

Karma_hunden
01-19-2007, 07:44 PM
dyno? 1/4 mile times?

4DRHTRD
01-19-2007, 08:22 PM
Been working on the XEDE EMS tuning and getting the 3071R turbo dialed in. Still seeing a 3 PSI difference between stock and custom intercoolers.
That is an easy 30WHP difference but once I get the car back from some service work we'll get it on the dyno and compare the two back to back with the same tune.

VA03Speed
01-23-2007, 12:27 PM
No, the liquid will be held in the heat exchanger shown behind the grill. If I want to have one made later to hold ice then it can be made. We've talked of a stage 2 kit with a higher flow pump and ice resevoir later. This setup is good for 680 WHP.
Mike


Is 680 whp for the kit your using?

4DRHTRD
01-23-2007, 12:57 PM
This intercooler will support up to 680WHP with the current pump I'm running. It will support more with a higher volume pump.
I definitely DON'T have 680 WHP.
:)

rednecks_r_us
01-23-2007, 01:28 PM
This intercooler will support up to 680WHP with the current pump I'm running. It will support more with a higher volume pump.
I definitely DON'T have 680 WHP.
:)
Well not yet anyway :D

VA03Speed
01-26-2007, 10:20 AM
Yea I know I was just wondering.

Killer
02-05-2007, 06:13 AM
Have you driven it in summer heat yet? I lived in Tempe for 12 years..it gets PLENTY HOT there.

4DRHTRD
02-05-2007, 07:12 AM
So I suppose the question is, why did you go FMIC when you could of gone bigger TMIC and spent substantially less. Was a 3psi drop worth it?
I think you meant to say:
So I suppose the question is, why did you go TMIC when you could of gone bigger FMIC and spent substantially less. Was a 3psi drop worth it?

Actually no, it wouldn't be substantially less, it would be as efficient and you'd be adding quite a few feet of tubing which increases pressure drop. You'd also not be able to have that big of a FMIC core w/o removing the front bumper core.

Hambino
02-05-2007, 07:36 AM
I think you meant to say:
So I suppose the question is, why did you go TMIC when you could of gone bigger FMIC and spent substantially less. Was a 3psi drop worth it?

Actually no, it wouldn't be substantially less, it would be as efficient and you'd be adding quite a few feet of tubing which increases pressure drop. You'd also not be able to have that big of a FMIC core w/o removing the front bumper core.

Oh I didn't even realize it was a LA intercooler. I read it real quick and thought the exchanger was an FMIC. That's my fault man. I was going to say, why on earth would you go through all that when more efficient top-mount applications are available. That is a wicked nice set-up though. Never drink and post! (drunk) Damn colts..

MS64MEE
02-05-2007, 03:58 PM
Oh I didn't even realize it was a LA intercooler. I read it real quick and thought the exchanger was an FMIC. That's my fault man. I was going to say, why on earth would you go through all that when more efficient top-mount applications are available. That is a wicked nice set-up though. Never drink and post! (drunk) Damn colts..

IIRC...the ETS TMIC was not yet available when he did his L-A. I think his was the first upgraded intercooler on the MS6 (it was either his or P5Freek's custom FMIC). Gotta hand it to these guys for being on the bleeding edge.

4DRHTRD
02-05-2007, 05:28 PM
I would never run an aftermarket air to air TMIC, you won't be able to get it to remove enough heat. I love to go to the track and it just won't work there. Also daily driving in AZ makes it a no no. I think I finished my IC before P5Freek :)
Since there was a 3PSI increase in pressure I've been fighting fuel cut ever since and my dyno's and 1/4 mile times have shown it. I've lately had time to start tuning my XEDE and the upcoming dyno charts will prove it out. I will be doing a comparison dyno pull between the stock IC and my custom IC when I get out next time.

Hambino
02-05-2007, 11:18 PM
Understood, the heatsoak must be absolutely brutal out there. I can't wait to see your results.