FS: RACTIVE jet coated Headers (NEW)

[P5errington]

SOLD TO WILDO. Thanks for evryones input and good luck...

[justanotheradikt]

nice deal..... if i didnt have my AWR header id jump on this

[hi-perf]

wow dude nice this will go quick

^same i would have got it if i didnt have one atm.

good deal bump

[Black_Protege_5]

I sent this link to a friend. He should be interested. Especially at this price.

[Nos]

PM sent

[P5errington]

Thanks, I wished I could have used them. The jet coating wipes clean, no brown or fingerprints to worry about.

[L8R]

Who did you buy these from? I'm assuming you didn't even have these installed before you totalled the car. I read there are problems with this header hitting the oil pan, was that true in your case?

[P5errington]

Who did you buy these from? I'm assuming you didn't even have these installed before you totalled the car. I read there are problems with this header hitting the oil pan, was that true in your case?
I didnt have them on, but when the car was wrecked I did a test fit and it seemed to fit perfect. I never heard of that fitment issue but thanks.

[theice]

Do these have the 2nd 02 bung?

[2k3 PrO RiDa]

when you say "headers" how many do you have?

[L8R]

No 2nd O2 bung. I was reading up on this. You need to get a new bung welded on after the 2nd cat. Do a search, this was discussed before, just so I don't give wrong info. Sorry, I can't give you all the details on it :[

[kudakev615]

i have this header and no it doesnt hit the oil pan. the fit is very tight but itll squeeze in there. theres not alot of room to weld the second o2 bung on the header so i got mine onthe down pipe. header is a real nice piece amd frees up some ponies. some one just on this please??? its already jet coated and its a discontinued header

[Kansei]

Mine rubs the oil pan. No matter what I do to adjust it (I've had it off the car a few times trying to figure out why it's doing this), it still rubs. Maybe I just got a bad one. Aside from the oil pan rubbing and the terrible finish on mine (it never, ever got the nice bronze-look, it just looks like crap) I like mine :)

I must have just gotten a defective one though, I haven't heard of anyone else having an issue with rubbing.

If this was jet coated black or "gunmetal" or "titanium", I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

[P5errington]

i have this header and no it doesnt hit the oil pan. the fit is very tight but itll squeeze in there. theres not alot of room to weld the second o2 bung on the header so i got mine onthe down pipe. header is a real nice piece amd frees up some ponies. some one just on this please??? its already jet coated and its a discontinued header

Thanks for the Info...How did the CF pieces turn out for you? Shoot some pics.

[ghetto waggon]

Are you fredricksburg VA or MD ? (either of the two?)

If yes, interested.

[P5errington]

Mine rubs the oil pan. No matter what I do to adjust it (I've had it off the car a few times trying to figure out why it's doing this), it still rubs. Maybe I just got a bad one. Aside from the oil pan rubbing and the terrible finish on mine (it never, ever got the nice bronze-look, it just looks like crap) I like mine :)

I must have just gotten a defective one though, I haven't heard of anyone else having an issue with rubbing.

If this was jet coated black or "gunmetal" or "titanium", I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Jet coating resists heat and the chrome is usually good to like 1800 degrees. The other colors are Powder coating and really don't do good with heat. I got my turbo mani and DP done just like this also and its god for 2000 degrees.

[L8R]

Man, seems like a great header. GL with the sale.

[P5errington]

Are you fredricksburg VA or MD ? (either of the two?)

If yes, interested.

fredericksburg VA, and that would be cool for a local pick-up. I could meet you half way some where off 95.

540-841-4126

[ghetto waggon]

sounds good. pm sent.

[wildo]

PM Sent! This fits the 2.0L P5 FSDE?

[wildo]

by the way- does it come with gaskets?

[P5errington]

Bump, first one with the money in paypal gets them.

[P5errington]

BTW, I have only 1 of these. Alot of confusion as to the "Headers"??

[wildo]

paypal $$ sent

[wildo]

so did I "win?"

[P5errington]

so did I "win?"

Sure you won!!! PM sent.

[P5errington]

Sold To Wildo.

[mp3moose]

540 number? In harrisonburg much?

[rednecks_r_us]

Wow that was an awesome deal. I have a jet hot coated Ractive header.

I installed a MAM midpipe with the o2 bung behind the cat. No CEL's for me. I just had to extend the o2 wires to make it reach.

Mine sits close to the oil pan but it doesn't touch it.

[wildo]

agreed- totally awesome deal! When people say to install an o2 bung behind the second cat, you actually mean towards the "front of the car" side of the cat, right? That is, the exhaust will go through the header, hit the second o2 sensor, and then go throught the cat. Is that right? Thanks!

[Kansei]

no. other way around.. behind = past the cat. that's why there's no CEL, because it's after a cat just like it was with the stock setup. That's how I have mine too and no CEL for months :)

[wildo]

Ah, thanks for the clarification. I thought that the stock setup was before the cat- that is why OBX headers have the bung welded to the converger on the header.... My bad. Thanks again!
willy

[Kansei]

I have no idea why the OBX header has it welded there.. why have two oxygen sensors without anything going on in between them? The only difference on the OBX is that one sensor is getting readings from a single cylinder when the other is getting readings from all cylinders together.... but there's still no cat so you have to trick the car to avoid a CEL.

[P5errington]

Thanks for everyones input. I I didnt taotal the P5 these would have nbeen on for sure, they are sweet looking.

[wildo]

Kansei- thanks for the input! Yeah, I guess that makes perfect sense. So, if you get it welded in behind the cat, do you need to do the non-fouler trick? I guess yes, because you have eliminated one cat. ok. I will let this thread die now. I think I know the answer ;) Thanks to all! And especially to P5errington for the sweet deal!

[kudakev615]

you will still need the non fouler trick or an o2 simulator to alter the o2 readings

[Kansei]

You won't if you put the sensor in your midpipe AFTER the cat. I know I'm not the only one to have done it.

Stock setup: 1st O2 sensor, egr, cat (pre-cat.. just gets up and running faster because it's so much closer to the combustion chamber so it gets some really hot gases hitting it), 2nd O2 sensor... then the rest of the exhaust.

Setup with ractive header and MAM catted midpipe: 1st O2 sensor, egr, cat, 2nd O2 sensor, then the rest of the exhaust.

Before I did it myself I hadn't heard anyone confirming whether that would work or not in terms of getting a CEL.. but it works just fine.

No non-fouler, no tricks of any kind. Just extend the oxygen sensor wiring to reach the location behind the primary cat.

[wildo]

rockin'

[rednecks_r_us]

You won't if you put the sensor in your midpipe AFTER the cat. I know I'm not the only one to have done it.

Stock setup: 1st O2 sensor, egr, cat (pre-cat.. just gets up and running faster because it's so much closer to the combustion chamber so it gets some really hot gases hitting it), 2nd O2 sensor... then the rest of the exhaust.

Setup with ractive header and MAM catted midpipe: 1st O2 sensor, egr, cat, 2nd O2 sensor, then the rest of the exhaust.

Before I did it myself I hadn't heard anyone confirming whether that would work or not in terms of getting a CEL.. but it works just fine.

No non-fouler, no tricks of any kind. Just extend the oxygen sensor wiring to reach the location behind the primary cat.

Yep thats what I did. no need for any non-fouler tricks or MIL eliminators.

Just extend the o2 wires to allow the 2nd o2 to mount behind (rearward) of the original or MAM cat in the midpipe.

[wildo]

Got header today. Everything is exactly as described. Very nice. P5errington was a pleasure to do business with. Thanks!

[Thekid760]

How much better is this header than the OBX as far as hp??? Also fitment.

[Kansei]

I must have gotten a defective one so I'm no good to talk about fitment :P

HP.. I really don't think I've seen any comparo. The only difference that I can tell is that the Ractive is a 4-1 header (meaning the 4 pipes collect together all at the same time) and I believe (don't quote me on this haha) that the OBX is a 4-2-1 header.

Edit: nevermind. I just looked for a pic of the OBX and it is also a 4-1 header. so now the only different is that on the OBX, the oxygen sensor mounts right after all 4 pipes come together, while on the Ractive it is just getting a reading from a single cylinder. In theory that could affect performance if your cylinders are behaving differently, as the first oxygen sensor is used by the ECU to see how the car is running and adjust stuff accordingly.

[justanotheradikt]

i thought awr was the only 4-2-1

[RaiderMP5]

needs to update post#1 with a SOLD.....

[Kansei]

i thought awr was the only 4-2-1

updated my post.. it was a typo.

[wildo]

both obx and reactive have the first o2 sensor on only one cylinder. The obx has a second bung welded in for the second o2 sensor- the reactive does not.

[RaiderMP5]

It was $25 bucks to get it welded in at a local shop for my ractive header. Not a big deal for me.

[Kansei]

both obx and reactive have the first o2 sensor on only one cylinder. The obx has a second bung welded in for the second o2 sensor- the reactive does not.
I now realize why Ractive doesn't have the 2nd bung.. because it doesn't make any sense to. Why have both bungs there if there's no cat? It's just going to throw a CEL unless you do a hack.

The obx first sensor has it's bung just on cylinder one? hmm the picture I saw definitely looked like the protege application of the header (pic was on protegegarage.com) but I guess it wasn't the right pic.

[RaiderMP5]

exactly. But if you don't want to butcher the wiring for the mil fix, and want to do the non-foulers, just get a 2nd bung welded in.

[wildo]

whew!!! definitly I bit more get up and go! wow... Also- considerably louder as well. Thanks again everyone!

[rednecks_r_us]

whew!!! definitly I bit more get up and go! wow... Also- considerably louder as well. Thanks again everyone!


Welcome to the ractive club :D

[french02chris]

question :is the obx header really worth it to install or is it just a waste of money..i want to install one,but i want to be sure that i will gain some kind of extra power? thank you

[rednecks_r_us]

If you want to be really fast the cheapest way is turbo. If you want to be fast and be all motor it will take lots of money.

There is a noticable gain with just the header. But to get more out of your car I'd suggest intake-header-highflow midpipe-cat back exhaust.