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RODSCALIP5
09-21-2006, 08:45 PM
Looks good, I wish they would have made a FMIC. Let the JDM Fanatics go crazy :D

http://www.autoexe.co.jp/products/InterCooler/IntercoolermainA.jpg
http://www.autoexe.co.jp/products/InterCooler/ml3990soucyaku.jpg
http://www.autoexe.co.jp/temp/ml3990top21.jpg

Ryoga28
09-21-2006, 08:47 PM
Sexy!!!

tsunami
09-21-2006, 08:49 PM
now if it only came with a hood scoop....

Focus
09-21-2006, 08:49 PM
It's actually listed only for the Atenza(Mazda 6) and MPV on their site.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autoexe.co.jp%2Fprodu cts%2FInterCooler%2FIntercooler.html&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

RODSCALIP5
09-21-2006, 08:51 PM
It's actually listed only for the Atenza(Mazda 6) and MPV on their site.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autoexe.co.jp%2Fprodu cts%2FInterCooler%2FIntercooler.html&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

Yeah, I know. Check the title :D. It should work for the 3 too.

Focus
09-21-2006, 08:51 PM
Sports Intercooler



For [matsudasupidoatenza] and new sale.




http://www.autoexe.co.jp/products/InterCooler/IntercoolermainA.jpg


In the compressor section, the fact that intake air temperature of the turbo engine which reaches to the 130℃~190℃ is reduced is function of the intercooler with influence of the exhaust. Cooling the air where oxygen density decreases with high temperature if it makes dense, it is the mechanism which power and torque increase. However, when it tries probably to cool random, this time resistance increases, the accelerator response decreases with pressure loss. The fact that it becomes the technical key is method of taking the balance.
As for the intercooler which is loaded onto the DISI turbo engine, the alias “placing on top” mount where pipe layout is superior shortly in the response. But, in order to be located to the engine upper part, regarding cooling characteristic a little it is disadvantageous structure.


“The sport intercooler” of new development expands mass production layout to the core thick limit that way and raising capacity. Adopting the corrugated type which expands the surface area to the outer fin which has the role which cools the intercooler by the fact that the travelling wind is applied.



Arranging the offset fin where the heat dissipation effect is high inside the inner tube which is the passage of the air which on the one hand, was supercharged. The weak point of the placing on top mount is overcome.
Furthermore, for the sharp response, making use of the bulk inner tube which expands the passage area, taper processing the air inlet. Approximately 60% inhalation air transmissivity is improved at genuine products ratio, pressure loss has been decreased.
You improve response which stepped on the result and the accelerator from the instantaneous, installed capacity 12.3~14.3ps *, 1.5~2.8kg-m * achieving improvement by largest torque. Including the hand completely volt/bolt on installing is possible in the engine itself.
(* This corporation measurement value)
http://www.autoexe.co.jp/products/InterCooler/zuintercooler21a.gif



< Sport intercooler passage figure >


Was pressurized by [tabochiyajiya] the hot air, the intercooler inside surge tank -> the inner tube (the offset fin) -> the surge tank -> to be cooled by the order, exit, it becomes the dense air. (As for details of each part, please refer to description below)



http://www.autoexe.co.jp/products/InterCooler/ML3980C.jpg
http://www.autoexe.co.jp/products/InterCooler/Innerfin.jpg
http://www.autoexe.co.jp/products/InterCooler/Innercube.jpg
< Corrugated fin for outer cooling >
< Offset fin inside inner tube >
< Inner tube of tapered form >
While making turbulence the louver cause which formed threely-dimensional on the fin surface, stirring the air around it makes the cooling effect increase by the fact that it makes pass. In addition to being restriction in travelling airflow, it is the form which is optimum to position system.
>> Right upper figure 1 part The offset fin which raises cooling efficiency is adopted to the fin for cooling inside inner tube.
>> Right upper figure 2 part

The bulk inner tube which by the fact that the air inlet is designated as tapered form, controls the occurrence of turbulence, introduces the air smoothly.
>> Upper figure 3 part




< [matsudasupidoatenza] installing state >


http://www.autoexe.co.jp/products/InterCooler/ml3990tannpinn.jpg http://www.autoexe.co.jp/products/InterCooler/ml3990soucyaku.jpg Installed capacity: 14.3ps, largest torque: 2.8kg-m improvement (this corporation measurable quantity)




<MPV (LY) type installing state >


http://www.autoexe.co.jp/products/InterCooler/ML3980soucyaku.jpg http://www.autoexe.co.jp/products/InterCooler/ML3980tanpin.jpg The genuine intercooler air duct is removed to one for photographing.

Installed capacity: 12.3ps, largest torque: 1.5kg-m improvement (this corporation measurable quantity)



< Car classification conformity chart >


http://www.autoexe.co.jp/products/InterCooler/hyouintercooler22.gif

Renesis8
09-21-2006, 09:40 PM
So it gives 14.3ps of HP increase?

L8R
09-21-2006, 09:47 PM
That is very expensive, but bad ass.

ChopstickHero
09-21-2006, 09:59 PM
I think all Autoexe pieces are nice. This one is especially nice because it's an ARC product. and yeah, a low profile hood scoop would do wonders for that TMIC.

Renesis8
09-21-2006, 10:31 PM
I think all Autoexe pieces are nice. This one is especially nice because it's an ARC product. and yeah, a low profile hood scoop would do wonders for that TMIC.

I think how mazda route air to the intercooler works fine, its just like a hood scoop under the hood... however.. that air has to go somewhere, and the set up on the ms6 has no room for it to vent out or go further away from the intercooler

adrock3217
09-25-2006, 11:09 PM
I think how mazda route air to the intercooler works fine, its just like a hood scoop under the hood... however.. that air has to go somewhere, and the set up on the ms6 has no room for it to vent out or go further away from the intercooler


Seriously, without any form of a high-pressure area hoodscoop, there isn't really a point in upgrading the stock TMIC. Either go front-mount, or get a hood with a (insulated) hood scoop over the intercooler. I don't care WHAT kind of "hood scoop under the hood" Mazda has come up with, the fact is that the path of least resistance will mostly be AROUND the intercooler, and a vast majority of the air will be bypassing it.

Also, in low-speed driving, idle, etc., this setup is really bad. The heat will be rising to, you guessed it, the intercooler! Not to mention, this "hood scoop under the hood" will not be functioning...*at all* under around 30-40mph. Before that, there is not enough pressure at the nose of the car to benefit the intercooler..at all. A hood scoop would work wonders here, as there would always be a fresh supply of air right above the intercooler, so it wouldn't heat soak *as bad*, but it still would a lot.

Front mount or go home! :-O

mattleegee
12-04-2006, 10:27 PM
Can someone convert the price in US.... im haveing a hard time ... thank you


Also i think a hood scoop would be less efficiant then the front vents that direct right onto the FMIC, a hood scoop you would loose most of your force and would have to have a dip and a taller lip to even catch any air

The vent in grill design works well to blow a good amount of air into the hood ducting system

SeanMSIII
12-05-2006, 07:13 AM
Seriously, without any form of a high-pressure area hoodscoop, there isn't really a point in upgrading the stock TMIC. Either go front-mount, or get a hood with a (insulated) hood scoop over the intercooler. I don't care WHAT kind of "hood scoop under the hood" Mazda has come up with, the fact is that the path of least resistance will mostly be AROUND the intercooler, and a vast majority of the air will be bypassing it.

Also, in low-speed driving, idle, etc., this setup is really bad. The heat will be rising to, you guessed it, the intercooler! Not to mention, this "hood scoop under the hood" will not be functioning...*at all* under around 30-40mph. Before that, there is not enough pressure at the nose of the car to benefit the intercooler..at all. A hood scoop would work wonders here, as there would always be a fresh supply of air right above the intercooler, so it wouldn't heat soak *as bad*, but it still would a lot.

Front mount or go home! :-O

So, your scientific opinion is that the the large duct opening at the high pressure area at the top of the grille is inferior to ANY scoop on the hood? My understanding is that you have to go up pretty high, like the birdcatcher on the STi, to get high pressure air in the middle of the hood. Also, what do you mean by the path of least resistance? The under hood ducts are attached by a sealed opening to the top of the TMIC. Where else will the air go but through the TMIC? Lastly, how would a hood scoop draw any more air at under "30-40 mph" than the duct opening at the front of the grille? Sure FMICs are gonna cool better, but knowledgeable tuners (Cobb) have said that even the stock TMIC does a good job of cooling and they won't be offering an IC among their offered aftermarket mods.

A more efficient TMIC has already shown very good results with the MS6, especially with avoiding heatsoak. And from what I've seen, FMICs look like a major PITA and a hood scoop would like crap. I have seen a vented hood on a modified show car (MS6) that did look very cool. That I might be interested in way down the road.

SeanMSIII
12-05-2006, 07:22 AM
Can someone convert the price in US.... im haveing a hard time ... thank you


Also i think a hood scoop would be less efficiant then the front vents that direct right onto the FMIC, a hood scoop you would loose most of your force and would have to have a dip and a taller lip to even catch any air

The vent in grill design works well to blow a good amount of air into the hood ducting system

Matt, here's the Corksport MS3 page with the Autoexe TMIC. $1300.

http://corksport.com/store/category/buir/MS3_Engine.html

voiceKoil
12-07-2006, 10:58 AM
Looks nice...A bit pricey but atleast its there if you want it.....




I dont think a hood scoop would look bad!?
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/2497000-2497999/2497424_46_full.jpg

voiceKoil
12-07-2006, 11:02 AM
Or how about all 3? New tmic, New Cf hood w/hoodscoop , AND the stock front scoops, or would that lose any velocity either of the scoops would create? Personally I want a new hood anyways, stock ways a TON compared to my eclipses Cf hood.......but it dosent have ducts in it

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/2497000-2497999/2497424_33_full.jpg

elderlycoffee
12-07-2006, 11:12 AM
I was thinking an even smaller one, Perhaps almost level with the hood. just a welll done slightly raised cut out

palerider
09-29-2007, 02:14 PM
So it gives 14.3ps of HP increase?

what the heck does that mean?

And what is 2.8kg of torque? How many lbs in a kg.... is that how thats figured?

palerider
09-29-2007, 02:19 PM
For anybody that cares... the claims for gains on this TMIC are 14.1 hp and 20.24 torque gains after the metric conversions.

Id never seen a dyno or these numbers posted before.

Probably the same as the ETS... give or take.

greenball34
10-13-2007, 01:39 PM
see speedym3 post apearance

itzl0l
10-14-2007, 01:45 AM
the only i like about this over the ets is the looks....this is pretty but not 1300 worth of pretty.

Vindikacione
10-14-2007, 03:16 AM
There are 3 different sizes. Which s the best for a daily driver?

SwampAss
10-14-2007, 11:44 AM
There's been talk and/or data to suggest anything bigger than a 3 inch core is a waste. I have a 3.25 and personally, am very pleased with the results. OEM is 2 inch.