It the Ford Edge competition for the CX-7?

[stangmatt66]

http://www.linternaute.com/auto/salons-mondial/naias-salon-detroit/06/images/8-FordEdge.jpg

http://www.edmunds.com/media/il/features/future/07.ford.edge/ford.edge.int.500.jpg

Ford announced pricing for the 2007 Ford Edge (cousin of the CX-7):

Ford Edge Website (http://www.fordvehicles.com/futurevehicles/2007edge/)
Official Press Release (http://media.ford.com/newsroom/release_display.cfm?release=24358)

SE FWD: $25,995
SE AWD: $27,645

SE Features:

Bold, distinctive three-bar chromed grill
Athletic stance with dual exhaust
All-new 3.5L V6 Duratec 35 engine with all-new 6-speed automatic transmission offer power & fuel efficiency
Independent multilink suspension delivers responsive handling
17" Painted Aluminium Wheels
Compartmentalized center console storage
MP3/Input Audio Jack
60/40 split fold flat 2nd row seat
2nd row seatback also reclines
ABS with Traction Control
AdvanceTrac® with Roll Stability Control
Safety Canopy™ with rollover sensor (Curtain airbags)
Side Impact Air Bags



SEL FWD: $27,990
SEL AWD: $29,640

SE Features, plus:

Leather-Wrapped Steering Wheel
In-dash 6 CD changer w/ steering wheel audio controls
Dual fog lamps
Dual chrome exhaust tips
Automatic Headlamps
Illuminated Door Entry Keypad
Electrochromatic Auto-dimming Rearview Mirror
6-way Power Drivers Seat w/ Manual Lumbar



The Edge is priced near the CX-7, but is missing key features such as HID headlights and advanced keyless entry & start--which are both available on the CX-7. However, the Edge has a more powerful 265 hp V6 which runs on good ol' regular 87 and has the available panoramic Vista Roof™.

Does the Edge pose a threat to the CX-7?

[G-Papi]

Does it pose a threat? No
Will it compete? Probably

Would I want it? Definitely not.

Why? The styling is a step backwards, It may have more horses, but how's the torque? Betcha that it weighs more than the CX-7. I don't like all the chrome up front in the grille. I could probably go on, but I don't know that much about it.

[AKYellow]

Does it pose a threat? No
Will it compete? Probably

Would I want it? Definitely not.

Why? The styling is a step backwards, It may have more horses, but how's the torque? Betcha that it weighs more than the CX-7. I don't like all the chrome up front in the grille. I could probably go on, but I don't know that much about it.
^^Agreed That chrome grill is nasty! I have never been much of a ford fan anyway!

[miss_steele_msp]

they both look the same to me. If i had to choose it would be the ford only for that color. I like the burnt orange and the grille.

[shaggin'wagon]

Nope... it still has one major down fall...... it is still a Ford...... also, the pricing almost seems higher than the CX7... mine is the Grand Touring with the Tech Package... and all other goodies (except all wheel drive) and I paid a little over $30,000 and the SEL FWD is $28,000 and no navi.....

[G-Papi]

The chrome grille makes me think of an old Buick (enguard)

[Hughes412]

The ford all the way. V6 more hp and less to break. And I bet it'll be able to tow more. And HID's aren't all that, they are cool and all but cost to much to replace.

[cruzdreamer]

I would consider it if I was not such a Mazda fan.....Mazda's are just more fun to drive and have better styling, handling etc. The thing that sells me is the option of the panoramic roof.......I love those!!! Mazda has the "Edge"......it is lower in price and does not look like a box and way more fun for the driver. Zoom Zoom everyone!!!

[mx5gary]

As a loyal Mazda owner for more years then I care to remember, all here are aware that Mazda is owned by Ford right? While the CX7 remains my first choice I find more and more Ford parts and styling with each of my new purchases, and believe the trend will continue with each new model year. Just as long as Mazda gets the best of both I’m happy with my choice of using the better design team.

Gee where have I seen that Edge shifter before…

[Renesis8]

Correction, the Edge isnt more powerful, the turbo 2.3L has a lot more torque than the V6. put the two engine in a same car, the 2.3L will be a lot quicker. Also Mazda underrated the 2.3L DISI. its got a lot more torque than you think.

Also Mazda does not always go to Ford's parts bin, for example, the RX-8, MX-5, CX-7 are ALL mazda, zero Ford parts... Also for the platform on the Mazda6, fact is that it is a shared platform used in many Ford's cars too, too many to count, but I always hear that its Mazda's platform and Ford helped to create it, not the other way around (i.e Ford's platform and Mazda helped). Same as the MZR engine, ford helped, and then renames it as duratec and put it in domestic cars. If anything, I think Ford reaches into Mazda a lot more often for parts.

Btw, that Edge looks like crap... And Ford cars are not made to compete... It already looks outdated.

[G-Papi]

Btw, that Edge looks like crap... And Ford cars are not made to compete... It already looks outdated.
Oh so true.
(werd)

[lasermp5]

2.3 DISI turbo FTW!!!

[spike blue]

2.3 DISI turbo FTW!!!

like you said!!! No i still love the cx-7 more and more!!!(ughdance)

[Renesis8]

A more direct competitor could be the new Mazda CX-9, it sits on the same platform and shares the same engine. Check it out guys
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=116846?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1 .*

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[mx5gary]

Also Mazda does not always go to Ford's parts bin, for example, the RX-8, MX-5, CX-7 are ALL mazda, zero Ford parts...

Lets see on my MX-5 the dipstick reads FoMoCo same for the filter wonder whos part that is. Guess Ford took that shifter from Mazda then... two quick examples that at least the new MX-5 and CX-7 are not ALL mazda parts

[Renesis8]

thanks for clarifying mx5gary, I wanted to say that all the major parts of those cars are all mazda, drivetrain, suspension, platform, etc.

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[1Sleepy93]

I wouldn't touch the 3.5L V-6 with a 100ft long pole.

As said before, 2.3L DISI turbo FTW!!! (first)

[Hughes412]

The way I see it is both vehicles look good. Yes the chrome is a bit much of the ford but the front of the mazda isn’t all that great either. Mazda has always used ford parts and ford mazda. I personally would not want a turbo 4 in my SUV. I’ll take the V6. Both will get the same MPG but with the V6 you don’t have to use the 91+ octane. That alone will is almost enough. That and fords build quality is just as good as mazda. Another thing that ford has over the mazda is the cx7’s ugly ass red dash lights. I just hate red lights, and my greenish lights in the protégé. VW actually has the best dash lights.

[1Sleepy93]

VW actually has the best dash lights.

I hear you there.

I'd rather have the turbo 4 that makes more torque and has a wider powerband then a v6 that takes 87.

[spike blue]

I hear you there.

I'd rather have the turbo 4 that makes more torque and has a wider powerband then a v6 that takes 87.

yeah you right!!! i rather have a turbo than a v6!!!

[Antonio DiMarco]

The way I see it is both vehicles look good. Yes the chrome is a bit much of the ford but the front of the mazda isn’t all that great either. Mazda has always used ford parts and ford mazda. I personally would not want a turbo 4 in my SUV. I’ll take the V6. Both will get the same MPG but with the V6 you don’t have to use the 91+ octane. That alone will is almost enough. That and fords build quality is just as good as mazda. Another thing that ford has over the mazda is the cx7’s ugly ass red dash lights. I just hate red lights, and my greenish lights in the protégé. VW actually has the best dash lights.

I wouldn't say Ford builds cars AS GOOD as Mazda, but they're getting better. One of the reasons Ford took controlling share of Mazda was because they wanted to learn from Mazda's QC. Sure some parts are of questionable quality. But I'm sure Mazda parts procurement team inspects and rejects parts they deem subpar- even if they do come from Ford. Good parts is good parts. It's all in the way they're utlitized and screwed together that makes the difference.

[Platonium]

Whether you admit it or not, the two vehicles compete for market share and are pointed to the same demographic. Mazda will always have the lower volume car and be on the advanced edge of the available technology. Ford is absolutely convinced its customers do not want to be early adopters of technology. There is a history of great R&D projects inside FoMoCo that have been killed becuase the "market didn't bear out the cost of production." In fact, according to a recent study, FoMoCo spends more on R&D than ANY OTHER CAR COMPANY....including GM and Toyota. Mazda on the other hand appeals to progressive individuals who WANT something a little different and are impressed by a small engine that performs well in a well engineered package. We would all find similarities in that we desire a higher level of perceived quality in our cars than a typical Ford buyer. I know several Ford engineers and Execs both former and current and this opinion comes from them, not my fertile imagination.

[Pirana]

The Edge is a direct competitor to the CX-9 coming out later...they both share the same chassis and engine.

[sephiroth]

Nope... it still has one major down fall...... it is still a Ford...... also, the pricing almost seems higher than the CX7... mine is the Grand Touring with the Tech Package... and all other goodies (except all wheel drive) and I paid a little over $30,000 and the SEL FWD is $28,000 and no navi.....
The Edge is manufactured @ Ford's mexico plant and it's been getting the highest quality numbers(in that it's made from more durable materials/parts) than any ford in the past 10years or so.

I don't like all the chrome up front in the grille.
yeah.. idk why, but it reminds me of the grille off a Cadillac CTS

[Platonium]

The Edge is a direct competitor to the CX-9 coming out later...they both share the same chassis and engine.

The Edge does not have 3 rows of seats...it is a 5 seater. the CX-9 while on the same chassis with similar powertrain is a 7 seater. The Edge is positioned as a young persons lifestyle vehicle as is the CX-7. The CX-9 is a replacement for minivans ands larger 7 passenger sport-utes in the Mazda lineup. Ford will be coming out with another crossover (shown as the Fairlane concept in Detroit last year) with 7 passenger capacity. IT will be in the same class as the CX-9.

[cleoent]

The Edge is a direct competitor to the CX-9 coming out later...they both share the same chassis and engine.

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