tires

[jas721@epix.net]

whats the deal about the goodyear and brigstone.my cx7 came
with the brigstone 18". is the goodyear a better tire????

joe from pa

[buckeye#1]

I noticed that my brochure stated that
the CX 7 came with Goodyear and now
I see Potenza tires WTF?

[wongster]

hhmmm mine came with goodyear and its the cx-7 gt version..

[mx5gary]

mine - Potenza on a GT version

[1Sleepy93]

Bridgestones on mine.

[wongster]

hmmm interesting.. arnt car manufactores suppose to use the same tires for the same model??

[spike blue]

yeah they suppose!!!

[Z_Monzter]

hmmm interesting.. arnt car manufactores suppose to use the same tires for the same model??


No, they are not. I've seen this happened in many cars. That's why when you buy a car you get a brochure for different brand's warranty.


They vary depending on your location (all weather or summer) also depending on their stock.

Is all about the Benjamin’s, which ever company supply tires for them at the lowest price at the moment the manufacturer purchases the bulk of tires.

All they are required is that the tires are the same rating used at the time of testing (safety and crash).

[Mazda3]

The Goodyears were on the early production models. When they ran out of those the contract switched over to the Bridgestones. Really quite amazing how well the CX-7 handles on shit tires, with some real tires it will be unreal.

[Tech711]

Does anyone know who makes these and where I can get them?

I found this pic on the net and want these for my Cx-7 GT.

[1Sleepy93]

Does anyone know who makes these and where I can get them?

I found this pic on the net and want these for my Cx-7 GT.

That was a prototype shot and they don't exist unfortunately.

[Tech711]

That was a prototype shot and they don't exist unfortunately.

Well does anyone know what brand or style tire comes close to it?

[dhiney]

The GT comes with the Goodyear RSX while the Touring & Sport comes with the Bridgestone.

I changed the Goodyear RSX to Goodyear LS2. The RSX are a piece of scrap rubber and Goodyear knows it. You will be lucky to get 20K-25K miles out of them. Unfortunately it is Mazda's choice to use the RSX.

Goodyear Service Store Rep told me that the car manufacturers are specing tires for the heavier Cross-SUV's that aren't designed for that type of vehicle.

He told me he has one customer that goes through a set of tires every 8-10K on their Infinity.

The car manufacturers are putting large & unsuall size tires on the vehicles and there isn't the manufacturing capacity out there for these tires. I.E. there is a limited choice of tires that fit these vehicles.

This is an tire Industry problem not a single tire manufacturer problem.

Goodyear has a new tire - The Resoponse Edge - that should be a really good tire and the New Fortera. Not made in the size we need right now but hopefully they will be in the next year.

[Unit 91]

There are currently about 6 choices in type of tire in your OE size.

My car is equipped with the Goodyear Eagle RS-A. Scrap rubber? No. Sorry. Just because someone only gets crap miles on their Infinity doesn't mean it's a 'scrap rubber' tire. The Goodyear is superior to the Bridgestone in this case (usually a comment I'd never make). Also, according to Bridgestone's official release they are supplying 'S' speed rated tires. Goodyears are rated 'H'. Much more appropriate.

Manufacturer's aren't neccesarily spec'ing tires that aren't desinged for the x-over SUV. No tire really is designed specifically for that application. Tires in the sizes equipped stock on the CX-7 aren't going to be general passenger car tires. The simple size of the tire dictates that it isn't for your Neon. It's not an LT (light truck) tire, and you don't need one. If they made a Bridgestone Insignia (basic, basic passenger tire) in the correct size it would be fine for your CX-7. Keep in mind that OE tires are softer than the EXACT same aftermarket tire and will NOT last as long as your second set.

In my opinion (I work in the tire industry) Goodyears aren't worth their salt.

When the CX needs new tires I'll be shodding it with Advans. Thank you very much.

The Ls-2 is an inferior tire to the OE RS-A. True statement.

[1Sleepy93]

My stock Bridgestones on the CX are "H" rated.

[dhiney]

There are currently about 6 choices in type of tire in your OE size.

My car is equipped with the Goodyear Eagle RS-A. Scrap rubber? No. Sorry. Just because someone only gets crap miles on their Infinity doesn't mean it's a 'scrap rubber' tire. The Goodyear is superior to the Bridgestone in this case (usually a comment I'd never make). Also, according to Bridgestone's official release they are supplying 'S' speed rated tires. Goodyears are rated 'H'. Much more appropriate.

Manufacturer's aren't neccesarily spec'ing tires that aren't desinged for the x-over SUV. No tire really is designed specifically for that application. Tires in the sizes equipped stock on the CX-7 aren't going to be general passenger car tires. The simple size of the tire dictates that it isn't for your Neon. It's not an LT (light truck) tire, and you don't need one. If they made a Bridgestone Insignia (basic, basic passenger tire) in the correct size it would be fine for your CX-7. Keep in mind that OE tires are softer than the EXACT same aftermarket tire and will NOT last as long as your second set.

In my opinion (I work in the tire industry) Goodyears aren't worth their salt.

When the CX needs new tires I'll be shodding it with Advans. Thank you very much.

The Ls-2 is an inferior tire to the OE RS-A. True statement.


You may work for in the industry but you don't know Goodyear Products. I have very good information that Goodyear knows they have a problem with the RSA's - They are very loud and get very poor mileage. Customers are not happy with them. I got 15k on my BMW 528 and had to replace them - I just replaced my wife's RSA's, on her Acura RSX, with LS. Much quieter & better ride. I have had lots of experince & knowledge on these products.

Just because I know a lot about Goodyears I can not and will not comment on other brands.

[Unit 91]

You may work for in the industry but you don't know Goodyear Products. I have very good information that Goodyear knows they have a problem with the RSA's - They are very loud and get very poor mileage. Customers are not happy with them. I got 15k on my BMW 528 and had to replace them - I just replaced my wife's RSA's, on her Acura RSX, with LS. Much quieter & better ride. I have had lots of experince & knowledge on these products.

Just because I know a lot about Goodyears I can not and will not comment on other brands.

You're saying that I don't know what I'm talking about, but you backed me up by confirming the RS-A is a horrible tire. I wouldn't put a Goodyear on my car. Period. I've had several sets on several cars and have NEVER been happy. To each their own, I guess.

[CX-7 Bratt]

I have Bridgestone Turanza on my AWD GT. I really don't know tires so are these considered good???

[1Sleepy93]

They are crap if you've ever had a good set of tires on anything.

[Mazda3]

Crapolla!!!! (puke) (piss)

[CX7_Scott]

I think mine are the Bridgestone and I encountered my first winter "storm" this past weekend driving up to Burke VT (almost Canada). At a rest area, I decided to do some random braking and accelleration and I must say it was difficult to keep the vehicle under predictable control.

I have owned 2 other AWD vehicles in the past, so I had a rough idea of what I should expect... but it didn't perform as anticipated and I'd like to think it's the tires, not the vehicle (although I do not know for sure).

I wonder if getting the Nokian snow-tires would improve the vehicle's stability and control much... or if it would just be marginal. (?)

I may cross-post this in the snow tires thread.

[erhayes]

I don't think any of the tires used on the CX7 are crap. Most are middle of the road all weather tires. I do wish Mazda had choosen a different 16 or 17 inch size instead of the goofy 18 inchers which has a very limited offering.

[Platonium]

Well, I have the "crap" goodyears and let me tell you this thing is like a mountain goat. I have always been a Bridgestone fan (over Goodyear anyway). Go ahead and call 'em crap, but after 5000 miles of pretty spirited driving in all weather I am impressed.

[CXRabbit]

I've got the Goodyears too and so far have been happy with them... but we'll see this week if we actually get some snow...

[meanstreak]

The GT comes with the Goodyear RSX while the Touring & Sport comes with the Bridgestone.



My GT came with Bridgestones

[meanstreak]

I think mine are the Bridgestone and I encountered my first winter "storm" this past weekend driving up to Burke VT (almost Canada). At a rest area, I decided to do some random braking and accelleration and I must say it was difficult to keep the vehicle under predictable control.

I have owned 2 other AWD vehicles in the past, so I had a rough idea of what I should expect... but it didn't perform as anticipated and I'd like to think it's the tires, not the vehicle (although I do not know for sure).

I wonder if getting the Nokian snow-tires would improve the vehicle's stability and control much... or if it would just be marginal. (?)

I may cross-post this in the snow tires thread.

I have only driven in mild snow with the CX7, but so far the bridgestones seem OK. Funny but I have the same tires only smaller on my Jetta and I have been very happy with them. They handle extremly well and I haven't had any issues driving in snow with the Jetta despite it's just FWD.

[mikey1981]

has anyone replaced their original set yet? if so, with what? any noticable changes if you have changed brands and/or size?

[HeavyH20]

Have you seen these? Kind of ugly, but they do have a 50k warranty.

http://www.discounttire.com/product/tires/gdyhvf.ang.jpg

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/findTireDetail.do?rcz=55378&rc=MNMINT&c=2&cf=false&cs=235&pc=31787&rd=18&ar=60&ct=&rf=true

If I picked up any original size tires, it would be the Advan.

http://www.discounttire.com/product/tires/yokrh8.ang.jpg

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/findTireDetail.do?rc=MNMINT&yr=2007&cf=false&c=3&sw=false&pc=44769&rf=true&rcz=55378&mk=MAZDA&cs=235&dVeh=dVeh&vid=010441&rd=18&ar=60&ct=

[mikey1981]

those look pretty nice

[HeavyH20]

I took a peek at the OEM tire rating (260AA). They are softer, so they should be a little more grippy since the treadware rating is 260. Compare that to the Advan at 320 and the ResponseEdge at 440, and it is understandable why the tires are only good for 30,000 miles of nice driving and about 25,000 of spirited driving.

I also think a 255/55-18 would work, as well (420AA - so good for about 50K on these)

http://www.discounttire.com/product/tires/nitrh5.ang.jpg

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/findTireDetail.do?rc=MNMINT&yr=2007&cf=false&c=3&sw=false&pc=40263&rf=true&rcz=55378&mk=MAZDA&cs=255&dVeh=dVeh&vid=010441&rd=18&ar=55&ct=

[giddyup]

I just put 255 55 18 Goodyear Fortera triple treads on the stock rims. They are much better then the RSA's that came on it. Goodyear actually prorated the RSA's cause they were bald after 15000 miles.

[dirtyhat]

I just put 255 55 18 Goodyear Fortera triple treads on the stock rims. They are much better then the RSA's that came on it. Goodyear actually prorated the RSA's cause they were bald after 15000 miles.


Do you have any pics from the side and from behind of the new tires. I would really like to put some wider tires on mine. I guess I won't have a choice if the Goodyears bald out at 15k.

[HeavyH20]

Pics would be nice. Side profile should be the same, but I am curious how the width affects the look. I assume it would look a little more agressive which is obviously a good thing. :)

[mikey1981]

ive had bad experiences with lower pro's up here in NE. at least in the RI/MASS area our roads are shit. i dont think ill go any lower pro than the stock, too many bubbles n blow outs

[Killer]

My friend from Conn say the same thing Mikey...says potholes are much easier to find than nice smooth roads.

[mikey1981]

yea its absolutely brutal on ur rims n tires.

[CX7_Scott]

I might go for 12" wheels and high-profile "clown" tires. :)

Big, ol' whitewalls! Heheheh...

Yeah - I live just northeast of Boston - outside the city, and potholes, sink-holes, road repair... it all messes-up your wheels and allignment BAD up here!

[jmhumr]

Crapolla!!!! (puke) (piss)

They are crap if you've ever had a good set of tires on anything.

What makes the Bridgestone's crap? They seem good to me.

[giddyup]

I dont have any photos, but i could snap some and post em. As far as the look: The tripletread futuras look good in my opinion no matter what size they would be. They dont come in the stock size so my tire guy didnt think it would be a problem jumping to 20mm wider tires. As far as diameter they are almost identical to stock. Its hard to tell a difference from the back. I guess if I had another CX-7 with stock size next to mine you could tell a difference but the tread pattern of the futuras lookgreat from the back. And they look pretty aggresive from the side too. They have a good looking sidewall in my opinion. The only thing that stinks is the price. $180 a tire. I'm glad this set was 50% on goodyear! I'll be getting them again as long as they last me 35 to 40k miles. They handle great and go through the rain at high speeds with no hydroplaning at all.

[giddyup]

Here are some pics of the Goodyear Futura Triple treads. Size is 255/55/18


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[5280_CX-7]

I think mine are the Bridgestone and I encountered my first winter "storm" this past weekend driving up to Burke VT (almost Canada). At a rest area, I decided to do some random braking and accelleration and I must say it was difficult to keep the vehicle under predictable control.

I have owned 2 other AWD vehicles in the past, so I had a rough idea of what I should expect... but it didn't perform as anticipated and I'd like to think it's the tires, not the vehicle (although I do not know for sure).

I wonder if getting the Nokian snow-tires would improve the vehicle's stability and control much... or if it would just be marginal. (?)

I may cross-post this in the snow tires thread.

I had the same experience here in Colorado. On ice and snow the Bridgestone's weren't very good. I replaced them with Perilli Scorpion Ice and Snow tire and found them to be much better.

[dirtyhat]

Here are some pics of the Goodyear Futura Triple treads. Size is 255/55/18


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106246

106247

106248


The tires look awesome man. Much better than the stock goodyears. Anyone know how wide we can go with the stock wheels and wheel well room?

[cmdavis3rd]

I took a peek at the OEM tire rating (260AA). They are softer, so they should be a little more grippy since the treadware rating is 260. Compare that to the Advan at 320 and the ResponseEdge at 440, and it is understandable why the tires are only good for 30,000 miles of nice driving and about 25,000 of spirited driving.

I also think a 255/55-18 would work, as well (420AA - so good for about 50K on these)

http://www.discounttire.com/product/tires/nitrh5.ang.jpg

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/findTireDetail.do?rc=MNMINT&yr=2007&cf=false&c=3&sw=false&pc=40263&rf=true&rcz=55378&mk=MAZDA&cs=255&dVeh=dVeh&vid=010441&rd=18&ar=55&ct=

Be careful when referencing tire wear ratings between different manufacturers.

TireRacks' tech site is a great tool for this type of information.

"The problem with UTQG Treadwear Grades is that they are open to some interpretation on the part of the tire manufacturer because they are assigned after the tire has only experienced a little treadwear as it runs the 7,200 miles. This means that the tire manufacturers need to extrapolate their raw wear data when they are assigning Treadwear Grades, and that their grades can to some extent reflect how conservative or optimistic their marketing department is. Typically, comparing the Treadwear Grades of tire lines within a single brand is somewhat helpful, while attempting to compare the grades between different brands is not as helpful."
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=48

With such a difference (260 vs 320 vs 440) yes, there will be a diffference in lifespan, but the a Bridgestone with a 260 and a different Bridgestone with a 320 will not be the same as a Bridgestone with 260 and a (Insert Tire Brand Here) with a 320. In reality, that 320 for (Insert Tire Brand Here) might be the equivalent of a (Insert Tire Wear Rating Here) for a Bridgestone.

Also, you are going to get an actual wearing of the tire that will be different if you are comparing traction and temperature grades that are different on similare wear rated tires, ie. 320AA vs 320B.

Not saying that you are wrong or trying to flame you, but there is more information that is needed to be evaluated beyond the wear rating.

[1Sleepy93]

I plan on going with a 255/55 when I replace my tires. Shouldn't be long if the Bridgestones keep wearing so damn fast.

[HeavyH20]

As for the wear rating, that is true. It is, however, normally within about 20 to 40 points, however. 260 is rather low on the rating skill. Other factors will include driving style, locations, city versus highway, etc, etc. All the Tire Rack article is doing is covering their responsibility to make sure you know that tires wear out differently even with the same rating.

Personally, the lower number the better in my book. The tires are usually more predictable in cornering and under load. I just want to get something that does a little better in snow and rain.

[cricket1977]

my sport came with the good year rsa's. my '05 mazda 3 came with the same good year rsa's in 17" and absolutely hated them. I had to replace them even with rotating @ 23,000 miles. crap tires.

[MrPirelliCX7]

Goodyear RSA, LS2 and Response Edge are all junk

Goodyear has the best name and the worst product

And for those of you who need winter tires try the Pirelli or the Continental,

Nokian is a cheap brand, simillar to Kumho which if you live in a wet climate and own Kumho, you can consider yourself a gamblin man

Why dont you try some Pirelli Scorpion STR


The GT comes with the Goodyear RSX while the Touring & Sport comes with the Bridgestone.

I changed the Goodyear RSX to Goodyear LS2. The RSX are a piece of scrap rubber and Goodyear knows it. You will be lucky to get 20K-25K miles out of them. Unfortunately it is Mazda's choice to use the RSX.

Goodyear Service Store Rep told me that the car manufacturers are specing tires for the heavier Cross-SUV's that aren't designed for that type of vehicle.

He told me he has one customer that goes through a set of tires every 8-10K on their Infinity.

The car manufacturers are putting large & unsuall size tires on the vehicles and there isn't the manufacturing capacity out there for these tires. I.E. there is a limited choice of tires that fit these vehicles.

This is an tire Industry problem not a single tire manufacturer problem.

Goodyear has a new tire - The Resoponse Edge - that should be a really good tire and the New Fortera. Not made in the size we need right now but hopefully they will be in the next year.

[HeavyH20]

So, what do you really think? Don't pull any punches :)

[Mazda3]

Goodyear RSA, LS2 and Response Edge are all junk

Goodyear has the best name and the worst product

And for those of you who need winter tires try the Pirelli or the Continental,

Nokian is a cheap brand, simillar to Kumho which if you live in a wet climate and own Kumho, you can consider yourself a gamblin man

Why dont you try some Pirelli Scorpion STR

Nokian is a cheap brand? :confused:

That statement discredits any knowledge you have of tires. Better do some research. I don't want to be rude, but I have a peeve about people providing false or uninformed information to forum members.

[MrPirelliCX7]

There are currently about 6 choices in type of tire in your OE size.

My car is equipped with the Goodyear Eagle RS-A. Scrap rubber? No. Sorry. Just because someone only gets crap miles on their Infinity doesn't mean it's a 'scrap rubber' tire. The Goodyear is superior to the Bridgestone in this case (usually a comment I'd never make). Also, according to Bridgestone's official release they are supplying 'S' speed rated tires. Goodyears are rated 'H'. Much more appropriate.

Manufacturer's aren't neccesarily spec'ing tires that aren't desinged for the x-over SUV. No tire really is designed specifically for that application. Tires in the sizes equipped stock on the CX-7 aren't going to be general passenger car tires. The simple size of the tire dictates that it isn't for your Neon. It's not an LT (light truck) tire, and you don't need one. If they made a Bridgestone Insignia (basic, basic passenger tire) in the correct size it would be fine for your CX-7. Keep in mind that OE tires are softer than the EXACT same aftermarket tire and will NOT last as long as your second set.

In my opinion (I work in the tire industry) Goodyears aren't worth their salt.

When the CX needs new tires I'll be shodding it with Advans. Thank you very much.

The Ls-2 is an inferior tire to the OE RS-A. True statement.



From my experience working with Goodyear for six years, Eagle ls and RSA are very poor in wet traction, and treadwear

Goodyear also had untrained factory workers running their plants for 4 months while the real workers were on strike YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you really want to pay through the nose for tires that some bum made

I rec Pirelli Scorpion zero or Conti Cross Contact UHP for good treadwear and excellent wet traction

these tires are built for Volvo which sets the standard for safety in automobiles

[MrPirelliCX7]

Nokian is a cheap brand? :confused:

That statement discredits any knowledge you have of tires. Better do some research. I don't want to be rude, but I have a peeve about people providing false or uninformed information to forum members.

how many winter tire test events held by manufacturers have you attended?

Nokian is a tier 2 brand in, I am sorry that is the truth at least in the states

Tier 1 is Bridgestone, Michelin, Pirelli, Conti, and I guess gdyr

what makes you a tire expert, I guarantee I know more about the global tire market than you

[Mazda3]

how many winter tire test events held by manufacturers have you attended?

Nokian is a tier 2 brand in, I am sorry that is the truth at least in the states

Tier 1 is Bridgestone, Michelin, Pirelli, Conti, and I guess gdyr

what makes you a tire expert, I guarantee I know more about the global tire market than you

I don't need to go to a tire test. I've used most of the premium winter tires on my own vehicles in the worst conditions. That allows me to compare tires for entire winters not one day tests that are probably designed for certain tires to win.

Nokian doesn't spend any money marketing their product is the US. It might be considered tier two because their sales are low, but not because of quality. Nokian is the tire of choice for European snow rally drivers. The Americans aren't going to allow a low sales tire that isn't commomly known by the American public to win a tire test. Your attitude towards them suggests you are either assuming thier tier 2 quality because you don't know anything about them or you work for an American tire company who is threaten by the superior quality.

[Gray Ghost]

Does anyone know who makes these and where I can get them?

I found this pic on the net and want these for my Cx-7 GT.

That looks like the GoodYear F1 tire.

Link:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+F1+GS-D3&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=555YR8F1GSD3XL&fromCompare1=yes&place=0&speed_rating=V&speed_rating=Z&speed_rating=W&speed_rating=Y

[Killer]

how many winter tire test events held by manufacturers have you attended?

Nokian is a tier 2 brand in, I am sorry that is the truth at least in the states

Tier 1 is Bridgestone, Michelin, Pirelli, Conti, and I guess gdyr

what makes you a tire expert, I guarantee I know more about the global tire market than you

BFD. You have not backed up one post with any quantifiable data. Al we have from you is your opinion. Post some links to back up your claims or I close the thread. And "Mr. Pirelli" try not to be such a smug ass when you post. Nobody likes a know-it-all who doesn't. Again,...data please...not opinion.

[Mazda3]

He's long gone.

[Killer]

I hope he stays that way. Troll.