Spotted - 2009 Mazda 6!

[mikeyb]

http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/Mazda-6-mule-f-3-4.jpg (http://news.windingroad.com/?p=1055)
Brenda Priddy’s crew has just snagged photos of the 2008 Mazda 6, which will be at once wider and longer than the current iteration. While this cobbled-together mule looks borrows heavily from the existing model, it is in fact substantially longer (perhaps as much as seven inches).
Ford’s CD3-2 platform is expected to underpin the new 6 (a derivation of the CD-3), meaning that it will share its skeletal bits with Mazda’s own Tribute, along with its Ford Escape and Mercury Mariner twins. Priddy’s people indicate that the platform will also be used underneath a number of 2012 models, including the next generation Fusion and a possible new Mercury sport wagon.
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Peaking through the anti-spy cladding is the new front fascia, which uses honeycomb-pattern air intakes, and a set of headlamp units that may-or-may-not be RX-8 lenses are fitted awkwardly up front. Regardless, it’s easier to see in person that the new 6 will grow in size to meet larger competitors like the Toyota Camry and Ford Fusion head on.
Slated to be powered by Ford’s new 250-horsepower 3.5-liter ‘Cyclone’ V6, the car will almost certainly see a less-powerful four-cylinder (perhaps a 2.5-liter). All-wheel drive availability will no longer be the sole preserve of the Mazdaspeed variant, which should give the 6 an edge in foul weather climes when compared with much of the front-wheel drive-only competition. Down the road, a hybrid model is expected come on line, with the same 2.5-liter that’s expected in the 2008 Fusion.
Priddy reports that the Flat Rock, Michigan produced Mazda 6 will continue to be available in more bodystyles than the competition, including the sedan, wagon, and hatchback. A Mazdaspeed version should return in 2009.

source:[url]http://news.windingroad.com/?p=1055 (http://www.msprotege.com/forum/)

[J dragon]

So no mazdaspeed for 2008.....Wow I can only wonder what the 2009 Mazdaspeed will be like?

[ZoomZoomH]

bigger, fatter, and slower than ever =/

[melicha8]

what's the point of these pictures. Nothing on there indicates a production body panel

[Raynman]

"...substantially longer..."

Sounds like it's going be heavier... :(

[FBI14]

AWD as a regular option sounds interesting

[ZoomZoomH]

AWD as a regular option sounds interesting

europe and japan had this option since the beginning, so nothing new here

[FBI14]

Well considering I live in America, it is new to us

[Donas64]

AWD sounds cool. 3.5L V6 sounds punchy. More weight and bigger size sounds like less fun. Hopefully it won't lose the great drivng dynamics.

[seanmcsean]

bigger, fatter, and slower than ever =/


says the torqueless wonder over here.

[FBI14]

HAHAH good point, not to mention the RX-8 doesnt set any new lightweight records for a sports car and the fact that the present rotary powered car gained a couple hundred pounds over the previous rotary car lost power in HP and torque and grew in size, his statment applies better to the RX-8

[Antoine]

I also wonder what's brewing for the MS6 in 2009...Hmmmm :D

*Stickied for your viewing pleasure

[Raynman]

What worries me is this list of cars based on the CD3-2 platform (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_CD3_platform):

* 2008 Mazda6
* 2008 Mazda Tribute
* 2008 Ford Escape
* 2008 Mercury Mariner
* 2012 Mercury sport wagon
* 2012 Lincoln MKX
* 2012 Ford Edge
* 2012 Ford Fusion
* 2012 Mercury Milan
* 2012 Lincoln MKZ

Not exactly the end of the world, but it's kinda worrying how they're going to field a sports sedan from a SUV/CUV platform. (dunno)

[FBI14]

Yeah lets just hope they do as good a job with the present platform as they do with the redesigned one

[mikeyb]

Mazda should add a Coupe and Convertible versions of the 6. Wait a Coupe would kill the RX-8.

[Donas64]

a coupe 6 would be TEH SEXAY!!!!

[Mazda3]

I also wonder what's brewing for the MS6 in 2009...Hmmmm :D

*Stickied for your viewing pleasure

How does a 3.5L DISI turbo with about 380 HP sound? :)

[Donas64]

Sounds delightful. Although I just wish mazda had a strong lightweight NA V6 ala Nissan. I just don't trust turbos. I love Nissans VQ35DE's. Wit turbos you gotta worry about boost leaks, spikes, detonation, costly repairs, power loss, premium gas et-al. If the DISI's hold up and prove to be durable then I guess it will put my mind at ease.

[Mazda3]

[quote=Donas64]Sounds delightful. Although I just wish mazda had a strong lightweight NA V6 ala Nissan. /quote]

They do. The 3.5L is 265 HP and adding the DISI bumps that to 300 HP. This engine also cleaner burning and will get better fuel economy than the Nissan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duratec_35

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

They are trying to get into the filed to compete with the Nissan Altima. 3.5 V6. But the thing the Nissan has is the new transmission with, from what I've heard, significant less power loss. Sounds like competition for the Nissan Altima....better have shitload of torque though....3.5SE and SE-R Altima's are fucking quick. Sorry if I ranted off topic a little. Oh and that 300hp....wont make a difference if that thing is heavy as hell. Same thing with the Civic Si, more power...yet heavier. Its going to be a matter of what manufacturer is willing to put out more performance. (peep)

[Antoine]

How does a 3.5L DISI turbo with about 380 HP sound? :)

Sounds better than Pr0n (shocked)

[Mazda3]

They are trying to get into the filed to compete with the Nissan Altima. 3.5 V6. But the thing the Nissan has is the new transmission with, from what I've heard, significant less power loss. Sounds like competition for the Nissan Altima....better have shitload of torque though....3.5SE and SE-R Altima's are fucking quick. Sorry if I ranted off topic a little. Oh and that 300hp....wont make a difference if that thing is heavy as hell. Same thing with the Civic Si, more power...yet heavier. Its going to be a matter of what manufacturer is willing to put out more performance. (peep)

250 tq and 280 tq with the 300 HP version. I personally can't stand Nissans CVT transmission and could never own a car with it. Mazda's new 6 speed is state of the art, I'll take that any day over the CVT.

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

How many praises has the CVT tranny from Nissan recieved compared to the Mazda transmission?

http://www.nissan-global.com/GCC/Japan/NEWS/19991001_0e.html

[DE31]

i want a small coupe, maybe a mazda 4?!?!

[Mazda3]

How many praises has the CVT tranny from Nissan recieved compared to the Mazda transmission?

http://www.nissan-global.com/GCC/Japan/NEWS/19991001_0e.html

That doesn't change the fact that I personally can't stand driving a car with CVT. You obviously love Nissan, I'll personnally stick with the Mazda. Everybody is different, thats why there are choices.

This converstaion was about the V6 engine anyway. My point was that the new 3.5L is everybit as good as the Nissan, maybe even better.

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

I've just owned more Nissan vehicles and they didn't give me as many problems as my mx6. But this MP5 has been great since day 1. but yes, its all a matter of opinion here.

[Da 6]

They are trying to get into the filed to compete with the Nissan Altima. 3.5 V6. But the thing the Nissan has is the new transmission with, from what I've heard, significant less power loss. Sounds like competition for the Nissan Altima....better have shitload of torque though....3.5SE and SE-R Altima's are fucking quick. Sorry if I ranted off topic a little. Oh and that 300hp....wont make a difference if that thing is heavy as hell. Same thing with the Civic Si, more power...yet heavier. Its going to be a matter of what manufacturer is willing to put out more performance. (peep)We are in the age of accessories. people still can't beleve my base model 6 had steering wheel controls.

[spec5protege]

What worries me is this list of cars based on the CD3-2 platform (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_CD3_platform):

* 2008 Mazda6
* 2008 Mazda Tribute
* 2008 Ford Escape
* 2008 Mercury Mariner
* 2012 Mercury sport wagon
* 2012 Lincoln MKX
* 2012 Ford Edge
* 2012 Ford Fusion
* 2012 Mercury Milan
* 2012 Lincoln MKZ

Not exactly the end of the world, but it's kinda worrying how they're going to field a sports sedan from a SUV/CUV platform. (dunno)

Yeah - I wish they would add AWD to the 3 instead of the 6. I see this platform as a money-saving move; otherwise Ford needs to (rtfm)

[BlazinYellow]

Whats with the gauge on the pillar. I noticed it on the last pic. They should have done nothing to the 6. The car looks good now, better when they first came out! the power upgrade with its original looks would be great!

[Da 6]

Yeah - I wish they would add AWD to the 3 instead of the 6. I see this platform as a money-saving move; otherwise Ford needs to (rtfm) Ford also needed to bring the Focus ST to the states but that won't happen any time soon.
Same with mazda and the mazda 2. Both cars that would sell pretty nicely.

[RHAGEL]

I hope to see a MS version in 2009. A year after the 2nd gen 6 is released is very reasonable. But waiting 3 years is just plain stupid, by then sales have slowed down and the car isn't new anymore (ie: the current MS6)

[Mikey444]

I wsh I can see pics now of what the 2008 Mazda 6 would look like.

[ATLMZ6]

Suprised to not see or hear anything new about the next 6 body style.

[Andrewsmc]

dont like..

[Donas64]

Yeahm they need to reveal this thing already. I need to know If I should start saving my pennies.

[Raymo853]

anyone have photos of the 2008 6 from the NYC Auto Show?

[coolmazda5]

I posted some engine stuff I found earlier in a different MazdaForums thread, then I saw this Sticky (doh).

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123666603

Here is another set of pics:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoid/6070226.002/country/jcf/spy-photos-new-mazda-6

Talk about camouflage here :confused:

The sites indicate the 3.5L V6 as the test engine but who knows what will be at the end. It may be very close for showrooms, I wanna see it already (freak)

[Raymo853]

Here is another set of pics:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoid/6070226.002/country/jcf/spy-photos-new-mazda-6

Talk about camouflage here :confused:


Maybe I am wrong, but the fully un-camo'ed version is at the NYC Auto show. None of the sites with photos and stories from the NYCAU have show the 6 or it seems and Mazda.

[Donas64]

Maybe I am wrong, but the fully un-camo'ed version is at the NYC Auto show. None of the sites with photos and stories from the NYCAU have show the 6 or it seems and Mazda.

If the un-camoed version is at the NYC show, I'm sure MikeyB will be all over it ASAP. I'm REALLY anxious to see the new 6.

[Raynman]

I'm going to the NYIAS this week. Will definitely be on the look out.

[Donas64]

I'm going to the NYIAS this week. Will definitely be on the look out.

If you spot it, please take pics!

[wongpres]

Maybe I am wrong, but the fully un-camo'ed version is at the NYC Auto show. None of the sites with photos and stories from the NYCAU have show the 6 or it seems and Mazda.

The next-generation Mazda6 hasn't been introduced yet (i.e. it's not at the NY autoshow).

[Donas64]

The next-generation Mazda6 hasn't been introduced yet (i.e. it's not at the NY autoshow).

major buzz kill

[RHAGEL]

I confirmed from an inside source at Mazda that the dealer release isn't until October (they get to see everything before the public). That would make it just in time for the LA auto show in December. The car is expected to be released sometime in early 2008. Doesn't mean that we won't hear anything before that, but Mazda is pretty secretive.

[Talbot]

I can't really tell from those spy shots, but is the 6 going to have Bi-Xenons like the Acura TL?

[Antonio DiMarco]

I can't really tell from those spy shots, but is the 6 going to have Bi-Xenons like the Acura TL?

Looks like Mazda will continue the same basic shape as the 4 door 3. Personally I think they're taking styling cues from some pretty sexy piers: aka Maserati. I know it doesn't look exactly like the Maseratis but you can't deny the curves are very similar to what Mazda's been doing with the 3 4 door and now the 2008 6- espcially around the rear quarter panels and midsection of their main models- less the MC12 :-).

http://www.maserati.com/jsp/introSottosezioneCustom.jsp?category=%2Fmaserati%2 Fcars%2Fgranturismo&menuKey=m95&BV_SessionID=@@@@1669227597.1176511974@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccdaddkjhledgmcefeceegdgimdfmk.0

[Shawn704]

There's a new spyshot that gives a better profile of the new 6, however it doesn't show the front clip, but I was right the tail lights do share some similarities with the CX-9.

http://www.fomoconews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=416

[Antonio DiMarco]

There's a new spyshot that gives a better profile of the new 6, however it doesn't show the front clip, but I was right the tail lights do share some similarities with the CX-9.

http://www.fomoconews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=416

The point a gentleman makes about the new 6 having lines similar to the Jag is also accurate. Mazda has to be building the sexiest Japanese cars on the road today.

[Shawn704]

By the cut outs of camouflage for the rear doors, I think the doors are similar to the Mazda 3, but just a stretched out one.

[Donas64]

If the new 6 looks like a streched 3, I don't think I'm going to be happy. Still I'll reserve all judgement until I see the final product.

[Killer]

If the new 6 looks like a streched 3, I don't think I'm going to be happy. Still I'll reserve all judgement until I see the final product.

(werd)

[wongpres]

Testing in the US spyshots:

[/URL][url]http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-6-future.html (http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-spied-2009-mazda-6.jpg)

Testing in Europe spyshots:

http://208.249.122.227/spyphotos/6070226.002/6070226.002.mini1L.jpg
http://208.249.122.227/spyphotos/6070226.002/6070226.002.mini2L.jpg
http://208.249.122.227/spyphotos/6070226.002/6070226.002.mini4L.jpg


The two are different (note the rear), different for US-spec vs world-spec, or different bodystyles sedan vs hatch? ;)

[Shawn704]

Yea, I noticed the differences of the location of the license plates. Maybe the Euro testing prototype is a hatchback? The grills are different too, looks like the US prototype might be a sport model? As that how the current generation's sport grill looks like with a bar running in the middle.

However both look like they retain the same shape with a sloping roofline.

I also can't help noticed how the Ford Mondeo and the new 6's shapes look so similar.

http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/11971_YYFYRSZMZHBXS.jpg

http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/assets/resources/2006/09/2007-Ford-Mondeo-Sedan-TOP.jpg

[Killer]

They do look alike shawn...good catch.

[Donas64]

I don't know why I'm so excited for this re-design. Maybe its because I'm such a big fan of the current model. Its a sensible car ala a camry or accord, but much more fun to drive and about 30x better looking. Now if Mazda would just offer the base models with AWD like ford does with the fusion, I'll be perfectly content.

[Koenig]

I wonder if the new Mazdaspeed6 for 2009 will be any different? Aside from any usual fascia and body paneling changes (inside and out) will it be heavier, lighter, perhaps more power? or less? People are already running mid 13s on stock speed6s. I'll be interested in how the 2009 model turns out. The Mazda6 being offered with AWD sounds interested too, as an American car. My gf's 2005 6 is fun to drive, but I still at times wish it was AWD, LOL.

[wannabe]

I wonder if the new Mazdaspeed6 for 2009 will be any different? Aside from any usual fascia and body paneling changes (inside and out) will it be heavier, lighter, perhaps more power? or less? People are already running mid 13s on stock speed6s. I'll be interested in how the 2009 model turns out. The Mazda6 being offered with AWD sounds interested too, as an American car. My gf's 2005 6 is fun to drive, but I still at times wish it was AWD, LOL.

probably wont see an ms6 in 09. mazda tends to wait until a couple years before a redesign to launch a 'speed version.

[clicknext]

Yea, I noticed the differences of the location of the license plates. Maybe the Euro testing prototype is a hatchback? The grills are different too, looks like the US prototype might be a sport model? As that how the current generation's sport grill looks like with a bar running in the middle.

However both look like they retain the same shape with a sloping roofline.

I also can't help noticed how the Ford Mondeo and the new 6's shapes look so similar.

http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/11971_YYFYRSZMZHBXS.jpg

http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/assets/resources/2006/09/2007-Ford-Mondeo-Sedan-TOP.jpg
Ford Mondeo.... that is a good looking car!

[Koenig]

probably wont see an ms6 in 09. mazda tends to wait until a couple years before a redesign to launch a 'speed version.

True, I was just going by what the first post said, since there won't be a MS6 in 2008 until 2009, probably be the same car and won't get a redesign til 2010 or 2011....... not that it matters much, by the time my warranty is up I'll be working on modifying the car.

[d2brsin]

I am strongly considering buying a 2007 Mazdaspeed6. There are about 15 GT models without Navigation system (this is what I want) in my area. It meets my requirements of 4-doors, AWD, serious power, and fun to drive.

O.K. guys I have a question for you:

Should I buy the 2007 Mazdaspeed6 or wait to see if the 2008 Mazda 6 has something that rivals the 2007 MS6?

It doesn't sound like the 2008 Mazda 6 will have anything with that kind of power, and no manual transmission. And if I want a Mazdaspeed model it sounds like I will have to wait until late 2009 (at the earliest).

What would you do?

[Koenig]

Based of speculation, and the fact the new mazda6 loks similar in shape to the Ford Mondeo, and the mazda6 v6 uses the ford power plant and how ford owns about 44% of Mazda...... I'd say the new mazda6 isn't really going to have anything in terms of AWD, so I doubt it would rival the mazdaspeed6, and there's a good chance there won't be a 2009 MS6...... so you'd be waiting til 2010......

I guess it all matters on what you can afford, because the 2008 mazda6 will probably be cheaper than a 2007 MS6....

[Donas64]

Based of speculation, and the fact the new mazda6 loks similar in shape to the Ford Mondeo, and the mazda6 v6 uses the ford power plant and how ford owns about 44% of Mazda...... I'd say the new mazda6 isn't really going to have anything in terms of AWD, so I doubt it would rival the mazdaspeed6, and there's a good chance there won't be a 2009 MS6...... so you'd be waiting til 2010......

I guess it all matters on what you can afford, because the 2008 mazda6 will probably be cheaper than a 2007 MS6....

I'm betting that the top of the line 6 will have AWD. Just wait and see.

[pHeeL tHiZ ViBe]

I'm betting that the top of the line 6 will have AWD. Just wait and see.

they would be hella slow with AWD. drivetrain would soak up all the HP's those non turbo'd fellas got.

[Koenig]

I'm betting that the top of the line 6 will have AWD. Just wait and see.


I'll believe it when I see it, but I doubt it...... the cars are heavy enough as is. they don't need the added weight of the AWD

[Donas64]

I'll believe it when I see it, but I doubt it...... the cars are heavy enough as is. they don't need the added weight of the AWD

If the V6 fusion can get available AWD, The new mazda6 with its more powerful power could easily handle the added weight of AWD.

I think they would be silly not too. I want an AWD mazda6 but I DON'T want a turbo.

I hope they bump the MS6 to about 320 horses or so to give it some room and give the top level 6 AWD.

[Koenig]

eh.... I've driven the fusion, it's slow by my standards, so I have no idea why they would add the AWD option to that stupid car...... and is the fusion's V6 really making less than the rated "220" horses from the 3.0L v6 ford engine in the 6 sport? I would have figured that they would have the same or similar horsepower.

Plus Mazda still has their own control over the company... FORD doesn't ENTIRELY control what they say or do..... kind of like Microsoft for Bungie (in regrding Xbox) MS owns bungie but they don't really get the final developing say.

I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see it.... a Mazda6 with AWD and maybe a bumped up 3.5L v6 with more power would be sweet

But I'll believe it when I see it.

[Shawn704]

A photoshop from a French auto magazine

http://news-img.caradisiac.com/IMG/jpg/Mazda6_4-2.jpg

[Donas64]

Its a little slab sided but you know what, I kinda like it. Doesn't looks as sporty as the current model though. Then again its just an artists rendering. Neat find one the less.

[Shawn704]

I guess I like it, I see the artist is speculating that it will have a similar headlights as the CX-7 and CX-9's. The bar in the grille probably looks like that of facelifted 2007 Mazda 3 GT. Why can't anyone confirm what platform the 2009 model will use? EUCD or CD3-2? MacPherson Struts or Double-wishbone? I would prefer the double-wishbone suspension, but it's not ideal for a FWD car with that large turning radius. EUCD is MacPherson Struts than again the CX-9 is on a modified CD3 with MacPherson struts.

[Koenig]

looks like MS6 wheels as well, LOL...... nice

[thedemonhatesme]

word around mazda is the vehicle won't be produced in 2008. the new model will now be introduced in 2009. they didn't like aspects of the vehicle, so they sent it back to japan to be modified some more... still haven't seen pictures of it.

[Regs120]

Though I would of loved to wait to get the beef-ed up 08 model, the 07 will do just fine. Though I wished they made a supercharger for the 07 models!! Maybe the aftermarket will prevail for Mazda next year.

If they didn't delay the 08's I would of waited. Because the 07 v6 is lacking quite of bit of power. That's why I busted balls when I bought the car. There was no way I was going to buy it for over 20k, at least for the VE. I would of bought a Subaru or maybe even a Nissan for 23-25k.

Anybody know where I can find 0-60 times for the 06-07 Mazda S compared to the competitions (Nissan and Honda)? It would be interesting to see how it performs.

[Donas64]

Though I would of loved to wait to get the beef-ed up 08 model, the 07 will do just fine. Though I wished they made a supercharger for the 07 models!! Maybe the aftermarket will prevail for Mazda next year.

If they didn't delay the 08's I would of waited. Because the 07 v6 is lacking quite of bit of power. That's why I busted balls when I bought the car. There was no way I was going to buy it for over 20k, at least for the VE. I would of bought a Subaru or maybe even a Nissan for 23-25k.

Anybody know where I can find 0-60 times for the 06-07 Mazda S compared to the competitions (Nissan and Honda)? It would be interesting to see how it performs.

No need to look it up, The 6 gets OWNED by its V6 competition. But at least you can take comfort in knowing its at least 6 times better looking than any of them and its got more character than all of them combined and is more sporting than the rest.

Shame about the underpowered motor though.

[RHAGEL]

word around mazda is the vehicle won't be produced in 2008. the new model will now be introduced in 2009. they didn't like aspects of the vehicle, so they sent it back to japan to be modified some more... still haven't seen pictures of it. Not quite. The release date is scheduled for February, though they may call it an '09 we will still see it in the next 8-9 months or so.

[RHAGEL]

Not quite. The release date is scheduled for February, though they may call it an '09 we will still see it in the next 8-9 months or so. I found out today that the dealer meetings are in February and the official launch is set for April, coming in at an 08.5 or 09. So we got 10 months and should see something by probably November, My guess is they will launch in the U.S. at the NY Auto Show.

[crashkelly]

A photoshop from a French auto magazine

http://news-img.caradisiac.com/IMG/jpg/Mazda6_4-2.jpg

that looks like a freakin accord or nissan sentra, but with better stock wheels...the first time i saw it i did a double take to check out the front emblem...its square and i couldve sworn it was a honda at first!

[theChineyz]

Very nice looking rendering. Im just not a fan of the BIGGER and Heavier body every model cycle. After Im done with my MS6 I want something smaller and more agile.Maybe the next Rx(if they work out the Rotary issues). Or the next S2k variant.

[qddave]

Looks like some more spy pics made it out.

http://jalopnik.com/cars/spy-photos/2008-mazda6-in-4+cylinder-and-v6-flavors-280765.php

[Donas64]

Overall shape looks nice. Still don't know if I'll like it over the current 6 though.

[Koenig]

I'm not happy they're getting rid of the hatch?

I actually like my g/f's 2005 mazda6 5-door.... the hatch gives you a LOT more room than a trunk.... seriously.... especially when you can lay down the back seats to stick things through.

[sanblaster]

seriously.... especially when you can lay down the back seats to stick things through.

(glare) (upbum)

[Koenig]

(glare) (upbum)

HAHAHA

it's perfect for that too (2thumbs)

[sanblaster]

HAHAHA

it's perfect for that too (2thumbs)


Bonus.

[wongpres]

Been a while since I've posted on this thread, but just to update with the latest for US-spec:

4-cylinder
http://www.mazda-madness.nl/nieuws/v66a.jpg

http://www.mazda-madness.nl/nieuws/v66l.jpg

6-cylinder
http://www.mazda-madness.nl/nieuws/v66d.jpg

http://www.mazda-madness.nl/nieuws/v66h.jpg

http://www.mazda-madness.nl/nieuws/v66f.jpg

http://www.mazda-madness.nl/nieuws/v66i.jpg

Interior
http://www.mazda-madness.nl/nieuws/v66g.jpg

http://www.mazda-madness.nl/nieuws/v66m.jpg

[Donas64]

Really curious as to the final look of this car. Mazda6 only scored 2.5 stars in motortrend roundup of all new models. Kinda dissapointing.

[Koenig]

I'm not liking the way the backend is turning out, or those obscenely large guage faces as appearing in that picture BLECH....

[Igve2shtz]

The center stack is similar to the CX-9, so thats prob what the production model will have.

Definetly not a fan of the gauges, nor the big ass end and added weight.

[ZoomVT]

hmmm it doesnt look very appealing to me so far... it kinda looks like a nissan!
i do like the wheels though...

[Mikey444]

With those undersized front brakes, it's definately a Mazda 6.

[Donas64]

With those undersized front brakes, it's definately a Mazda 6.

man those are some small looking discs!

[Koenig]

man those are some small looking discs!

That's mazda's ploy into the aftermarket gimmick. Sell their car with tiny ass brakes and then release a "big brake upgrade" kit....... watch (yupnope)

[Mikey444]

Well, at least I know what I'm not buying next!

[Koenig]

Amen.

[Donas64]

the wife and I still want a current gen. mazda6 5 door for our next car. She's pretty much set on it and I'm on board too. Sure its a little underpowered but it will feel like a rocketship compared with my P5 and her protege sedan.

Only thing is, I've heard of reliability problems. Is that true?

[Killer]

Only thing is, I've heard of reliability problems. Is that true?

Our 6i has been flawless other than the clutch TSB...One of the better cars we have ever owned.(drive2)

[Koenig]

what killer said.... my gf has the mazda6 s with the ford v6 it's a nice and quick for it's genre car, I actually enjoy driving her car, but not as much as I do my mazdaspeed6. her's is also the 5 door, I have to say I love the hatch in the back for more room.

If you were to get the mazda6 5-door i would push for the v6 enjoy.... as you'll enjoy it more. At least from a guy's perspective. My gf would also say after driving her car she'd never want a 4 cylinder.

[Donas64]

Yeah same here. Our P5's are the last 4cyls we will ever own unless we go with something supercharged or turboed.

Plus the Current gen 6 looks SOOOO much better than its competition, its not even close. I LOVE the looks of the car.

Well you guys have really confirmed what I thought. IT will be our next car for sure.

Hopefully Mazda doesn't botch this re-design as maybe after my wife has gotten her current gen 6, I'll take a gander at the new one. That new V6 is calling my name.

[Koenig]

go for the mazda5 S hatch (which is the v6, s=v6 i=i4)

Just one thing about it though uh, I've the clutch on the manuals are notchy or something like that...........and my GF has the automatic (she doesn't know stick) with the triptronic..... so what transmission are you shooting for?

[Donas64]

go for the mazda5 S hatch (which is the v6, s=v6 i=i4)

Just one thing about it though uh, I've the clutch on the manuals are notchy or something like that...........and my GF has the automatic (she doesn't know stick) with the triptronic..... so what transmission are you shooting for?

auto with tiptronic. The wife can't drive a manual so I'll settle. She wants one just like this

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2005/08/07/139645.3-lg.jpg

[Koenig]

Very nice......... Blazing Copper FTW...... same color as my GF's

2005 Blazing Copper Mazda6 s. Heh... of course she has rims and fog lights integratedin the bumper.

[RHAGEL]

Check this out:

http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle_Reviews/Sedans_Coupes_and_Hatchbacks/2008_Mazda6_Preview.S180.A13207.html?srccd=wn20070 812

Mazda 6 will launch in Frankfurt next month.

[Donas64]

Check this out:

http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle_Reviews/Sedans_Coupes_and_Hatchbacks/2008_Mazda6_Preview.S180.A13207.html?srccd=wn20070 812

Mazda 6 will launch in Frankfurt next month.

Dang it, I was prepared to hate it but I like how that front end looks. Crap, don't tell me I'm actually going to want one of these things now. I'll reserve judgement till next month. I can't believe I'm getting this antsy about a freakin mazda family sedan, you'd think it was the porshe panamera or something.


New Bigger V6? Check!

Optional AWD (FINALLY)? Check!

Sleek Styling? Check!

I'm sure the driving dynamics will be there. Its all up to the looks now.

[Antonio DiMarco]

Dang it, I was prepared to hate it but I like how that front end looks. Crap, don't tell me I'm actually going to want one of these things now. I'll reserve judgement till next month. I can't believe I'm getting this antsy about a freakin mazda family sedan, you'd think it was the porshe panamera or something.


New Bigger V6? Check!

Optional AWD (FINALLY)? Check!

Sleek Styling? Check!

I'm sure the driving dynamics will be there. Its all up to the looks now.

I'm right with you man. That 6 looks hot from the front. I think the reason your so excited is becasue Mazda has made it possible to experience 90% of what you'd spend 3 times the amount of money on. High performance and hihg quality cars are no longer only available to the rich.

If the 6 performs as well as that pict looks then I'm in big trouble.

[RHAGEL]

An inside source at Mazda said that the car that will be in Frankfurt next month is the world car, It is not the US spec. This will be the first time that Mazda has launched such different versions in different marketplaces. Unfortunately I couldn't get an details.

[Koenig]

Wow that front end looks like a blend of Mazda6 with some rx-8... not bad, it looks hot and looks nothing like the "spy pics"


Although I'm worried about how the rear end will look, I've seen cars with nice front end ugly rear end :(

[Koenig]

Sources expect the new 6 to be powered by Ford's 3.5-liter V-6, as well a 180-horsepower four-cylinder powerplant. All-wheel drive will be offered as an option. A hybrid, as well as a Mazdaspeed version, will eventually follow.

Now that just pisses me off........as nice as the one in the picture looks if that came in a mazdaspeed version, i'm gonna be jealous, and try to trade my shit in, haha.... I'm no so sure the AWD is a smart thing being offered with the 4 cylinder (only 180 hp) and the v6.... the extra weight will end up effecting the mpg the car gets, as well as terms of "power" and acceleration. should have made it RWD........cause that would be hot.

[Donas64]

I'm right with you man. That 6 looks hot from the front. I think the reason your so excited is becasue Mazda has made it possible to experience 90% of what you'd spend 3 times the amount of money on. High performance and hihg quality cars are no longer only available to the rich.
If the 6 performs as well as that pict looks then I'm in big trouble.

So true. Sylish fleet footed transportation for the masses! THANK YOU MAZDA!

An inside source at Mazda said that the car that will be in Frankfurt next month is the world car, It is not the US spec. This will be the first time that Mazda has launched such different versions in different marketplaces. Unfortunately I couldn't get an details.

I cannot wait for next month!

Wow that front end looks like a blend of Mazda6 with some rx-8... not bad, it looks hot and looks nothing like the "spy pics"


Although I'm worried about how the rear end will look, I've seen cars with nice front end ugly rear end :(

Yeah, if the side profile and rear are ugly, I will be devastated! This is my potential next car we're talking about here!!! I just don't see how it can look so frumpy and unsleek in the spy pics and WHAM that front shot looks HAWT!

Now that just pisses me off........as nice as the one in the picture looks if that came in a mazdaspeed version, i'm gonna be jealous, and try to trade my shit in, haha.... I'm no so sure the AWD is a smart thing being offered with the 4 cylinder (only 180 hp) and the v6.... the extra weight will end up effecting the mpg the car gets, as well as terms of "power" and acceleration. should have made it RWD........cause that would be hot.

Yeah but the new V6 should be good for about 250-260 horses so while AWD will hamper it a little, I'll deal with it if t mean good wet weather and bad weather traction plus getting off the line quicker and surprising some fool in a legacy GT!!! (drive2)

[Koenig]

hmmm, I dunno about a Legacy GT....... the MS6 is faster but only slightly...... and even if the v6 mazda6 is good for 250 with the awd you lose like 20% at the wheels (just speculating the examples of what they say) it's not going to be as fast or faster than an MS6..........

HOWEVER........ v6 + AWD will end up being hot when people start putting turbos on the car.

[Antonio DiMarco]

Yeah, if the side profile and rear are ugly, I will be devastated! This is my potential next car we're talking about here!!! I just don't see how it can look so frumpy and unsleek in the spy pics and WHAM that front shot looks HAWT!

That's why they camouflage them in the Spy picts. :D While you maybe able to see "some" styling cues you can't see those details that really make the design pop!

[wongpres]

An inside source at Mazda said that the car that will be in Frankfurt next month is the world car, It is not the US spec. This will be the first time that Mazda has launched such different versions in different marketplaces. Unfortunately I couldn't get an details.

Yep, my understanding is LA Autoshow (starting Nov 14) for N. American-spec.

[RHAGEL]

Yep, my understanding is LA Autoshow (starting Nov 14) for N. American-spec. The company I work for runs the BrandM by Mazda program, so we have a few people that will give us some information, but not a lot.

[bigdp5]

Wow! Kudos to the Mazda designers for injecting some true style into the 6 redesign. Wow! Makes the just introduced '08 Accord and current model Camry look like design rejects. I love the detail work in the head and taillights, as well as the bulging fenders, and can't complain about the beltline rise either. Nice work! Finally some style in the under $30,000 midsize sedan segment. Can't wait to see it in the flesh. I might be willing to let go of the P5 if the wagon is offered with a manual transmission. Way to go Mazda!

[Koenig]

http://jalopnik.com/cars/frankfurt-auto-show/mazda6-images-hit-the-net-ahead-of-frankfurt-unveiling-296946.php

[RHAGEL]

Cool pictures, its Mazda 3, meets Lexus IS, meets Chrystler Sebring. The tailights look waaaay to sebringish to me.

[Koenig]

Cool pictures, its Mazda 3, meets Lexus IS, meets Chrystler Sebring. The tailights look waaaay to sebringish to me.

I was kinda thinking the same thing, the rear body style looks awfully similar to the Lexus IS models, no? Coupled with the tailights from the new sebrings, I don't like it

I'm not really a big fan of cars with tail lights that seem to crawl up the back quarter panel....... those look too far up....... should have shortened them a bit to look more RX-8 at least.

[mayaman]

Aside from the taillights I think its gorgeous. Great looking car IMO. A nice evolution of the current vehicle. I don't know what the deal is with expressive taillights... there isn't really much about a bumper and a trunk that makes me think dynamism.

[Da 6]

I kinda like it.

[snooky]

dont know if n e ones posted this yet but:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByfB0D3dFQE