Engine mount question!

[Wingman21]

Heard some of you have only upgraded the front one because they say its enough! It seems that it also doesnt transmit too much vibration in the cabin! So does it make a difference? Any of you has that setup?

thanks

[livelyjay]

I just replaced my front motor mount 5 minutes ago. I went with the softer AWR mount, but I don't remember what the rating is. I definitely notice a difference between stock and the AWR when starting and stopping the engine. I'll let you know how the car feels after a few days of use/abuse.

[MrDiggler]

I highly recommend replacing the front with the AWR unit. I don't think the stiffness matters too much on the front one, but I'd go with the 70.
When you feel like changing the rear (and you should), I'd go with a filled stock mount to minimize vibration transfer through the firewall.

[Alejo_NIN]

i only have the front one done...and it vibrates like a hoe on crack

the cars seems rough...but i like it....it is more responsive tho

[livelyjay]

It is a bit rougher than stock. It's definitely apparant when starting, stopping, and at idle.

If you are interested, I am selling a stock motor mount that I filled with 3M Windo-Weld, which is polyurethane. Stiffness would be inbetween stock and AWR mount.

[MrDiggler]

Weird. I noticed basically no difference with just the front upgraded, and hella vibration with the rear until I went with a filled rear mount.

[Black_Protege_5]

I have an 88 front and 95 rear and passenger insert from AWR and I don't get a lot of vibration. It has a slight vibration but nothing as bad as what ppl make it out to be. There is less vibration than one of those massage chairs.

[MrDiggler]

I wish I had been that lucky. With AWR 70's front and rear, my dash shook so hard with the A/C on that you could see it bounce up and down.

[Wingman21]

I just bought some RR-Racing insert mounts! I did want to reduce the wheel hop, but didnt want too much vibration inside the cabin so I think its a good compromise.

Anybody has comments on those?

thanks

[jimmysuite]

I have the inserts and they are great. noticeable difference but not bad unless a/c on at idle. more importantly NO wheel hop

[Hughes412]

Heard some of you have only upgraded the front one because they say its enough! It seems that it also doesnt transmit too much vibration in the cabin! So does it make a difference? Any of you has that setup?

thanks

If you are going to do the front you might as well do the side inserts too. That will help stop the wheel hop. I love mine. And I can take off now and not get any hop out of it.

[Alejo_NIN]

yeah, only the front one won't do much

[Alejo_NIN]

mine still hopes like a misbehaving kid

[jeffmsp]

on the subject of engine mounts, the awr uses a bolt with a square end and a threaded end with a bolt. What does the stock unit use I have to put mine back in and cant find the stock bolt, can i use any bolt? I dont see anything that would stop it from rotating, is that ok with the stock one?

[ONRAILS]

I had just the front for a while and liked it. The problem I was having was that the hiboost upper pipe would hit the brake cylinder thing. I tried adjusting the pipe all different ways, with no success. The ride, vibrations, with just the front was good. So, then I decided to put the rear one on. Let me tell you... with AC on, you will not like driving the thing. It eliminated the pipe thing though. Car is wicked responsive. But, for me, it is way too much vibration and too much noise in the cockpit.

Between the damn bfg kdw2's and the mounts, it is loud as a mofo!!! I'm about to get the Goodyear D3's... hopefully it will quiet the ride some.

[Moeed]

The feeling the car gives is incredible. I love how it feels. A/C isnt that bad because I only feel it at a red light, and that is not that often. I do a lot of highway.

[jeffmsp]

so ya anyone with a stock motor mount can you just use any bolt or does it need to not be able to stay in place and not rotate like the AWR design? cant find my shit help a guy out going back to stock mount already sold the awr lol

[Rac3rX]

RR-Racing incerts will give noticeable vibes in the cabin (Especialy at start up) But it fades away after about 2 months (Well 2 months of burn outs and racing) to where I dont notice it at all, unless I have a couple of Fast Food joint drinks in the cup holders, then you hear the ice rattle. HOWEVER, I have no A/C. THere is no diff with the defroster, headlights & heater on though.

Im getting the side incerts from AWR to complete the set.

Ohh and that nasty banging sound you hear when you experience wheel hop, is the sound of your rear motor mount center bolt smashing into the outer wall of the mount (The stock rubber doesnt do shit), this usually distroys it given enough time and "Spirited" driving.

Best thing is no wheel hop & no Engine jerking arround and smashing the rear motor mount to shit....

[Hughes412]

so ya anyone with a stock motor mount can you just use any bolt or does it need to not be able to stay in place and not rotate like the AWR design? cant find my shit help a guy out going back to stock mount already sold the awr lol
I'm not getting your question. Are you asking if any bolt will work with the stock mount? If so I would have to say yes. I don't remember using new ones.

[Wingman21]

I had just the front for a while and liked it. The problem I was having was that the hiboost upper pipe would hit the brake cylinder thing. I tried adjusting the pipe all different ways, with no success. The ride, vibrations, with just the front was good. So, then I decided to put the rear one on. Let me tell you... with AC on, you will not like driving the thing. It eliminated the pipe thing though. Car is wicked responsive. But, for me, it is way too much vibration and too much noise in the cockpit.

Between the damn bfg kdw2's and the mounts, it is loud as a mofo!!! I'm about to get the Goodyear D3's... hopefully it will quiet the ride some.

When you had just the front, was it a complete mount upgrade or just an insert?

[tbui]

my mounts must be f***ed cause every time im shifting i feel the engine jerk really hard. would it be the same if i just pulled the mount out and filled it with a polyurethane filling? like caulking? i dont feel like spending 200 for new mounts. also anyone got a 5 spd tranny for my 01 mp3?

thanks

[terbow]

I'm not getting your question. Are you asking if any bolt will work with the stock mount? If so I would have to say yes. I don't remember using new ones.

right. the awr doenst come with a bolt. we just resused the stock stuff. so i dont get the question either.

[Hughes412]

my mounts must be f***ed cause every time im shifting i feel the engine jerk really hard. would it be the same if i just pulled the mount out and filled it with a polyurethane filling? like caulking? i dont feel like spending 200 for new mounts. also anyone got a 5 spd tranny for my 01 mp3?

thanks


Did you check all of your mount? When I put mine in I found that not only was the front torn but so was the right side. We looked at a P5 and an MSP and so were theirs. I bet you tore the sides and rear. If so installing the front only wont do anything for you.

[Rac3rX]

My rear was ripped to shit, my pass side mount has a small rip in it.

Yeah if your mounts are stock they need upgrading..... If you dont want the full mount the incerts are perfect, inexpensive and effective.

This is a simple BUT one of the most nessessary mods that can be done. Not just for the "spirited" drivers, but all 3rd Gen owners, its benifits in rain, snow, & or any type of low traction surfaces are evident.

[diegosurfer5]

I have the front and the rear mounts from AWR. first thing let me tell you the rear mount is a pain to put in or at least it was for me. I am about to put the inserts in the sides so i willbasically have all new mounts. I do agree with the whole ac vibration not that fun. The response from the throtle is crazy though and also doesnt feel like your motor is trying to jump out of the car when you shift hard.

i have the stock front mount and rear mount with the inserts that came with my exhaust i will sell them PM me real cheap they are just taking up room!!!!!

[540James]

im about to inspect my mounts, i know one is broken because i felt it bouncing around and smashing into something when i was getting on it the other day on a higher psi. i know im doing the front regardless if its broken or not. to keep the vibrations at a minimum and still fix the problem(if its broken), you all are saying to just fill the rear one instead of replacing it?

[livelyjay]

I have a front AWR for sale if any of you guys are interested. 70 durometer, used about 100 miles. It's posted in the for sale forum.

[StreetUnitMike]

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[MrDiggler]

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Oooohh, those are pretty!!! The 62 durometer should help too. Has the rear mount been tested for the "shake effect" with A/C on at idle? As I've mentioned, my 70 rear was brutal (IMO) vs. my filled stock that's hardly noticeable. I would think that a 62 would also be somewhere in between stock and harsh and would hold up well.

[Black_Protege_5]

All of my stock mounts were torn and the front was broken. I have the AWR pass side insert, 88 front and 95 rear. Its not that bad for me. I have very little vibration with the ac on and just the same with it off. I like it.

Those new mounts are nice but expensive.

[StreetUnitMike]

The rear mount is actually getting tested for everything this Saturday!!