Sounds like my starter is sticking..help?

[SDG]

Hey guys, I have a problem it seems with my starter. I willl describe it the best I can...When I turn the key to start my car it makes a noise like the starter is stuck on for an extra second. Like if you were to start your car but hold the key in the start position instead of the on position. It does it probably 7 out of ten times I start the car. It always starts but the noise doesnt sound good at all.

Any ideas what it could be?

[TheMAN]

what is the condition of your battery?
if the starter solenoid has a problem, the best thing to do is to just get it rebuilt... you don't have to buy rebuilt ones from the parts store, they cost more and the workmanship is usually shitty compared to a rebuild shop

[PlatinumMSP]

go take your car to the dealer and have them fix it under warrenty

[TheMAN]

dude he has a 2002... his warranty is probably up by now

[PlatinumMSP]

dude he has a 2002... his warranty is probably up by now

i thought most 2002 p5's got that 100,000 warrenty deal, but maybe not..

[SDG]

No my warrant is up, although I have the option to buy an extended one, might be a good idea. I have only had this car for around two months..the battery is new.

[RaiderMP5]

The problem is either a defective battery or a srarter taking a dump, most likely.

Funny, I just got an Optima a few months back after replacing the original battery. Just in the last week, the car has been slow to start, barely cranking, then it will crank and start. I saw an E on the odometer. Tonight I took off the terminals and cleaned brushed them clean. They had some of the red anti-corrosion crap on them. So maybe it was not getting a full contact, thus little charge. It is pretty bad after sitting, and I have no stereo or anything wired to be always on.

My 02.5 is still under warranty, 72K miles. I just dread the dealershit in Gainesville. Will prolly try to say it is my intake or rims. I cannot trust them at all. So I will do what I can to narrow it down if it does nto get resolved with good terminal connections.
So try cleaning the terminals, making sure you got a good connection.

[PlatinumMSP]

maybe you should try cleaning your EGR valve, theres a how to on it

[TheMAN]

WTF
lets just blame ALL problems on the fucking EGR valve
WTF does this have to do with the starter?

[PlatinumMSP]

WTF
lets just blame ALL problems on the fucking EGR valve
WTF does this have to do with the starter?

well if your carbon build up is bad enough like it was on my car, you start your car and then it stalls or i didnt even start sometimes, i had to rev up like crazy when just starting

[TheMAN]

and WHAT does that have to do with the starter making weird noises?

[JDM Sam]

edwin let it go.

[wannabe]

well if your carbon build up is bad enough like it was on my car, you start your car and then it stalls or i didnt even start sometimes, i had to rev up like crazy when just starting

not the same issue.

cleaning the egr would have no impact on this.

[PlatinumMSP]

guess not you guys are probably right, so what would be solution then?

[iamgrey1]

The clicking implies that the starter drive is engaging the flywheel, but not turning it. The most common causes could be bad cables/connection, starter solenoid, or battery. Somewhere, either you aren't getting enough juice to the solenoid or it is drawing to much current to allow it to also spin the flywheel. EGR valve???

[RaiderMP5]

Well, my problem was found to be....a defective Optima Battery! 56 days of use, failed load testing. New Optima installed, fired right up.

My siggestion, go to a car parts store with a battery tester, and test the battery out. Mine failed all testing from the beginning.

[TheMAN]

optimas are overrated

[RaiderMP5]

Yeah, but I have had the Auto Zone Wal mart Kragen shit batteries that were crap, even the top of the line ones, too.

i did have the factory battery for 3 years, then a borrowed Wal Mart one for a few months before the Optima. Overall, I am happy.

[Kansei]

optimas are overrated

At least it is maintenance free though, unlike the stock panasonic one.

[RaiderMP5]

At least it is maintenance free though, unlike the stock panasonic one.

We were supposed to maintain that thing???? I never did a thing to it for 3 years. never even died on me. It was getting slow to crank, so out it went.

[Kansei]

We were supposed to maintain that thing???? I never did a thing to it for 3 years. never even died on me. It was getting slow to crank, so out it went.

Yeah I know. same thing for me. I guess that is why the casing was translucent, so you could check the electrolyte level and add distilled water or something. It was the only car battery I've ever come across that was like that.

[ke20sprinter]

The clicking implies that the starter drive is engaging the flywheel, but not turning it. The most common causes could be bad cables/connection, starter solenoid, or battery. Somewhere, either you aren't getting enough juice to the solenoid or it is drawing to much current to allow it to also spin the flywheel. EGR valve???

iamgrey1, is that your yugo on your avitar? got any closer pics or info...looks pretty cool, at first I thought it was a toyota starlet...Like this one:
<img src="http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/2873/collantesKP61reflect.JPG" border="0" alt="" />

WiL

[iamgrey1]

iamgrey1, is that your yugo on your avitar? got any closer pics or info...looks pretty cool, at first I thought it was a toyota starlet...Like this one:
<img src="http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/2873/collantesKP61reflect.JPG" border="0" alt="" />

WiL


The Yugo thing is a joke. I asked MP3WANNABE what his favorite car was and he said that he wished his Mazda was a Yugo. I used the avatar as a reminder to him of our conversation. Weird guy.

[wannabe]

The Yugo thing is a joke. I asked MP3WANNABE what his favorite car was and he said that he wished his Mazda was a Yugo. I used the avatar as a reminder to him of our conversation. Weird guy.

(lol) something like that.

[ke20sprinter]

(lol) something like that.

What the starlet? It's a pretty sick car. RWD and very light, can use alot of the AE86 (corolla GTS) suspension and numerous parts. It handles well, and can mate alot of different engines in there. I've seen a few with a Toyota 4AG/4AG 20V engine, S2000 Engine, Toyota 3TC, 2TG, 18RG, & 3SGE engine.

There's this huge Old School Toyota Meet in Down Town Long Beach, CA (Queen Mary) this saturday. http://www.toyotaclub.org/ There will be a few starlets there, among other things, Old Corollas, Celicas, MR2, Landcruisers...It isn't mazda related, but I've seen a few Old Corollas with Turbo 13B's.

WiL

[TheMAN]

not all starlets are RWD ;)

[ke20sprinter]

not all starlets are RWD ;)

Yes you're right...The newer starlets (EP chasis?) are Turbo FWD, but as usual w/Toyota the good stuff are all JDM :eek:

WiL