Damn It I Hate Cops!!!!!!

[mazda3zoom]

Not so much cops, just dickhead cops. I was driving to work today and there were 2 state troopers parked on a cross street talking. I drove by, doing 55 (in a 55 zone) and just minding my business. The one pulls out behind me and follows me for a few miles then pulls me over. When i ask HER why she was pullin me over she said because your exhaust is too loud. WTF, i was doin 55 in 5th gear, and down a slight hill. My RPMs are around 2500 at that speed, theres now way in hell it was too loud. Thats not the good part thought, then she asked me to roll up my windows. Im like aww shit, i knew my window tint was illegal but i played ignorant and told her i had no idea. THEN she goes to my windshield to check the VIN and see the crack in it. So After its all said and done she gave me a ticket for the window tint, and a fix-it-ticket on the windshield. THEN the whole reason she stopped me in the first place (exhaust) she didnt even mention it.

It just urks me that they have nothing better to do then BS me on my way to work for my exhaust. Ive had it on there for over a year, and now its too loud. The thing about the windshield doesnt bother me cuz now im motivated to get it fixed, and the window tint thing is BS cuz my front windows were down this morning. Anyways just needed to vent...:bs:

[nautical2086]

yeah, there is a few streets aruond here that have a sign saying, "loud and obvoxious exhausts or vehile noise will not be tolerated, violators WILL get ticketed!"

[nautical2086]

it cant be louder than mine.

[dupa12345]

find the bitch and leave a burning sack of shit in front of her door

[Bu11dogg2]

Fight it.

I promise you will win. She had no Probable cause for the stop.

take it to court, teel the judge why she stopped you than ask the cop why she didnt give you anything for the exhaust.

you win.

[Karma_hunden]

You should'nt have put a farting can on your vehicle. Farting cans are for [Insert 'R' word here].

She was a bitch though.

lol you should've put Bad boys, bad boys Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna...or riding dirty, by chamillionare while she was walking up to your car.

[Gambino]

You should'nt have put a farting can on your vehicle. Farting cans are for [Insert 'R' word here].

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=68571

definately not a fart can on his car

[laracroft]

You can always say it was an OEM part since its not about a foot across. Next time tell them the car "came that way" they wont know the difference, especially since they have to prove it was bought as an aftermarket part that "increases hp". Ask them if they give out tickets to Harleys too. lol

But cant help you on the other aspects of the tickets.

[mikeski]

i hate that!!! they'll find anything if they're bored!

[justanotheradikt]

i was pulled over once for a loud exhaust....and made them put the meter on it..nowhere close, then he wanted to give me a ticket for my car being too low. there is no law about how high/low your car is in louisiana...i told him he was full of bs and had no cause for pulling me over and unless he has a warrant there is nothing he can do and drove off.

[MazdaBoi318]

Wow thats pretty bold, you just drove off?

[justanotheradikt]

yea, told him to have a nice day and smiled as i rolled up the window.... i seem to get my way with the law around here cause if you read the louisiana code, there are SO many loopholes as long as your not a driver for hire.

[Bu11dogg2]

ok,

you guys are not listening.

If a cop pulls you over, he has to summons you, or give you a warning for the initial reason he stopped you. He cant pull you over for exhaust then give you a ticket for tint and not for exhaust.

he or she has to have reasonable suspicion for the stop. If he or she fails to ticket you for the intial stop reason... you win.

[mazda3zoom]

ok,

you guys are not listening.

If a cop pulls you over, he has to summons you, or give you a warning for the initial reason he stopped you. He cant pull you over for exhaust then give you a ticket for tint and not for exhaust.

he or she has to have reasonable suspicion for the stop. If he or she fails to ticket you for the intial stop reason... you win.

In all states?? and she did give me a WARNING on my exhaust.

[mazda3zoom]

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=68571

definately not a fart can on his car


Thanks for clarifying that for me, last time i checked cat-back exhausts werent rice.(first)

[mazda3zoom]

And yeah about the harley thing, that pisses me off. Ive got my hands on a DB meter and im gonna measure my aftermarket exhaust and compare it to the OEM one on a harley. Maybe if i play it right i can measure a cop motorcycle....

[leetpcguy]

bu11dogg2- Your absolutely right. Like if they pulled you over for a busted tail light, and then they search your car and find some weed for example, the weed cannot be admitted into evidence.

Now, replace the word weed with exhaust. She couldn;t give you a ticket for a different reason other than the exhaust in this case.
Make sure you talk to more people, then take her to court just for the hell of it. Teach that bitch a lesson.

[safariMP3]

uh, so she only wrote you for the illegal stuff....

i guess maybe you shouldnt have gotten tint if it was illegal to begin with?

[Karma_hunden]

My brother is a cop. He says you can get a ticket for whatever else they might find [wrong/illegal] in your car, even if they dont give you a ticket for the initial reason they stop you for as long as they take action about it. In your case, she gave you a warning; that is like a ticket, she is warning you. However; you can still get out of it by proving that it wasn't remotely close to loud, etc. If the ticket isn't for much money or if she isn't a real bitch, she won't show up for court and your ticket might get removed or discounted.

[Mazdaspeed989]

How much was the ticket for the tint if you don't mind me asking?

[Bu11dogg2]

My brother is a cop. He says you can get a ticket for whatever else they might find [wrong/illegal] in your car, even if they dont give you a ticket for the initial reason they stop you for as long as they take action about it. In your case, she gave you a warning; that is like a ticket, she is warning you. However; you can still get out of it by proving that it wasn't remotely close to loud, etc. If the ticket isn't for much money or if she isn't a real bitch, she won't show up for court and your ticket might get removed or discounted.


she didnt warn him for the exhaust, that is my point.

Im a cop I know how this stuff works.

bu11dogg2- Your absolutely right. Like if they pulled you over for a busted tail light, and then they search your car and find some weed for example, the weed cannot be admitted into evidence.


Now, replace the word weed with exhaust. She couldn;t give you a ticket for a different reason other than the exhaust in this case.
Make sure you talk to more people, then take her to court just for the hell of it. Teach that bitch a lesson.

ummmmm well no your wrong, as long as the cop tickets him for the initial stop, i.e. exhaust... all other charges will hold up in court,

[mazda3zoom]

she DID give me a warning for the exhaust.

and the tint ticket is like $100

[Bu11dogg2]

she DID give me a warning for the exhaust.

and the tint ticket is like $100


Didnt catch that part...

[Mz3Hatch]

police dont have to give a warning or a summons when you are pulled over for breaking a law.. and she does have a right to pull you over for loud exhaust and can break you balls for it.. even if she didnt give you a warning for the exhaust like she did.. she still has 30 days from the initial stop to issue a summons.. so if you were to fight the piddly $100 tint ticket.. she could issue the exhaust ticket as well.. my father is a police officer.. and im in the academy to become a police officer.. i know ALOT about the law and title 39 for motor vehicle offenses.. honestly.. id just mail a check for the tint and cut your losses.. youll end up spending more time and wasting more money fighting everything..

[vindication]

woman cops suck ass. they always walk around like they're tough shit cause they think they have to prove something. sucks dude

[snowblazin]

Where the hell is all the weed comparison coming from? That's an illegal narcotic. If they find it on you/in your car, THEY CAN USE IT. Have you never watched an episode of cops? lol

[cheapmiata1600]

The warning for the exhaust is probably BS, but if you knew you had illegal tint why are you surprized you got ticketed for it? Take off the tint before you go to court and they'll probably throw out the fine.

[Biznass]

Should've been on the gixxer and given her the finger!

[laracroft]

woman cops suck ass. they always walk around like they're tough shit cause they think they have to prove something. sucks dude
Ohhh now waittttttt a minute there Vinny. (poke)

And one that was a Marine too to boot, cant get tougher than that homie! I'll kick your booty any day Goku! :p jk

[vindication]

Ohhh now waittttttt a minute there Vinny. (poke)

And one that was a Marine too to boot, cant get tougher than that homie! I'll kick your booty any day Goku! :p jk

you'ld like that wouldn't you?(spank) (naughty)

[laracroft]

Well.. it depends... I can think of other people that I'd RATHER be beating down... lemme go find one. I'll post vids... thread to follow. :D

[AngryCanadian]

I saw this and wanted to share a story about an incident that occured last summer. In the Spring of 2005 my car was stolen I filed my report and did and made sure the police and my insurance company had all my info. The car was found about a week later stereo system gone. So we had all the damage repaired and most of the equipment replaced. In August I was driving home from work when a cop car pulls in behind me and starts runnning my plates. We come to a busy intersection I see two more cop cars across the intersection. The lights go on for all three cruisers, I am tucked inbehind two vans so I am not going anywhere. Then I noticed they were coming my way tasers drawn, I was hauled out of my car handcuffed and stuffed in the backseat of one of the cruisers. The officers kept ignoring me and wouldn't let me explain what must have happened. They preformed a search in my car and hauled me down to the station.

Best part of all this is according to my laywer and the nice man from internal affairs told me there was going to be no way to hold anyone accountable, due to "probable cause".

Damn It I Hate Cops!!!!!!!

[Shiney_McShine]

Some of you all need to GROW UP.

Whoever said she did not have probable cause needs to stop watching TV and strat paying attention. Police do NOT need probable cause. We gave that up several years ago.

If you knew your tint was illeagal, why are you complaining?

And to those that made derogatory, heinous remarks; I hope you get whats coming to you.......Someday, you will need law enforcement and I hope you remember this moment that you behaved like thugs.

[zsk]

Some of you all need to GROW UP.

Whoever said she did not have probable cause needs to stop watching TV and strat paying attention. Police do NOT need probable cause. We gave that up several years ago.

If you knew your tint was illeagal, why are you complaining?

And to those that made derogatory, heinous remarks; I hope you get whats coming to you.......Someday, you will need law enforcement and I hope you remember this moment that you behaved like thugs.

Shiney you've got it just right. Someday they'll need a police officer and be damned glad when one shows up. To be fair, the thread starter did clarify with "at least dickhead cops". Things went down hill from there.
When you guys push the limits with tint, stupid fart cans and speed, you need to remember that SOMETIMES law enforcement will be there to catch you. Other times not. When you do your job (if you have one) do you do it right or just the part you like? To the guy in Louisiana :bs:

[justanotheradikt]

To the guy in Louisiana :bs:
was this directed towards me? who the eff are you to know what i have done? just incase you didnt know louisiana is the only state that runs on a different legal system than then entire US. we go by napoleanic code and it is very specific when it comes to things of that nature. i think i would know what ive done a little better than you noob. wtf do you want a vid? so before you post something like that you need to educate yourself and keep your mouth shut when you dont know everything about the subject matter.

[JOS3]

serously, i hope a cop pulls me over for "excessive noise." id go to court and ask if they ticket every harley they pass and if not, why? if they are going to stop one person for 'loud exhaust' on their car, then they need to ticket all harleys because i have never heard a car nearly as loud as a harley.

[zsk]

was this directed towards me? who the eff are you to know what i have done? just incase you didnt know louisiana is the only state that runs on a different legal system than then entire US. we go by napoleanic code and it is very specific when it comes to things of that nature. i think i would know what ive done a little better than you noob. wtf do you want a vid? so before you post something like that you need to educate yourself and keep your mouth shut when you dont know everything about the subject matter.
Hey, this noob got you fired up. (shocked) If being an oldtimer on this board is your claim to fame, that's OK with me. I don't mind being a noob. Anyway, I still doubt your story, but I probably should keep those doubts to myself, so in the future I will. I stand by the rest. What do you like best about your Mazda? Personally, I like the handling of my 3. Also, decent acceleration and gas mileage.

[justanotheradikt]

Hey, this noob got you fired up. (shocked) If being an oldtimer on this board is your claim to fame, that's OK with me. I don't mind being a noob. Anyway, I still doubt your story, but I probably should keep those doubts to myself, so in the future I will. I stand by the rest. What do you like best about your Mazda? Personally, I like the handling of my 3. Also, decent acceleration and gas mileage.
no i just hate ignorant people that think they know everything and know more about somones life than the actual person does. just so you know speed is not a crime in louisiana either and if anyone goes to court about it they get out of it. you wanna call bs on that too? go look it up in the louisiana law books. they also have to have a search warrant to look at anything on your car. so when a cop pulls you over here, just ask for his warrant and if he does not have one then drive away. nothing he can do about it. this is not my claim to fame, like i said i just dont like know it all people.

[thasilver3]

i got a "sound" violation for my system last nite it wasnt even loud i didnt speed or do anything jus a bunch of cops posted out in a 200 meter strip of road. bs im takin it to court cops blow.

[zsk]

no i just hate ignorant people that think they know everything and know more about somones life than the actual person does. just so you know speed is not a crime in louisiana either and if anyone goes to court about it they get out of it. you wanna call bs on that too? go look it up in the louisiana law books. they also have to have a search warrant to look at anything on your car. so when a cop pulls you over here, just ask for his warrant and if he does not have one then drive away. nothing he can do about it. this is not my claim to fame, like i said i just dont like know it all people.

I try not to hate anyone. I feel better that way. Are you saying that it is not against the law to speed in Louisiana? I thought there were laws in every state about speed.

[DeanSweet]

wow, you saw 2 MSP's together. On our frequent trips to Cadillac we rarely see one patrol officer, let alone 2 at once.. Wonder what they were up to?

Sucks about you being pulled over.

[ssupra96]

too bad, this started to be an interesting forum, but superman cops came on the scene and started throwing their opinions of what all counties, cities, states, and parishes...lol, are suppose to do. the funny part is, this is a mazda forum. not a chevy, ford, or dodge forum. their just mad that toyotas going to be in nascar...lol!!! cops are good for callin the ambulance when u cant reach the cellphone. as for serving and protecting, 90% of their revenue comes from tickets. they dont go overboard on stopping gangs in the construction field, they dont stop the child molesters in your neighborhood. but let one of their own get hurt, shot, or be in trouble and traffic will stop for miles. they know every loop hole in the legal system, but dont know how to just do their job. there's not much difference between them and a lawyer, matter of fact 50% of them go into law after their term in service because they know the law better then we do. they decided to be officers of the law- notice that word, the law- not loop holes of the law, or ways to bother other people. A cop probably knows how to amend the bible if congress gave them a chance, and then because they added something, well... its the law too. every officer has something better to do than chase someone for tint or a "fart can". I think all anyone can ask from the service of officers is to do the best job they possibly can. if u turn a blind eye to harleys on the regular then its fair to turn a blind eye to tint. their are just as many criminals driving harleys as their are drug dealers hiding behind tint, or driving the import that is louder than than stock. they know how to get the wrong guy, like that guy from canada earlier, but let someone actually do something to another civilian, if its not on tv, or it doesnt have a car involved then it doesnt matter. it happens everyday. sure, their may come a time when we all may need a officer but the chances of that officer needing u 1st, for that new helicopter or that last ticket for their quota is gonna be sooner. so who needs who more, the officer or the civilian? I would say this is just my 2cents, but maybe its worth just a little bit more.

[justanotheradikt]

I try not to hate anyone. I feel better that way. Are you saying that it is not against the law to speed in Louisiana? I thought there were laws in every state about speed.
yes i am saying it is not against the law to speed in louisiana. you may learn things about your own state if you read up in the law books...almost nobody knows that in louisiana, but if you are not a driver for hire then they cannot ticket you for speeding. they still do but if you try to fight it in court you can get out of it and they drop the charges.

[zsk]

yes i am saying it is not against the law to speed in louisiana. you may learn things about your own state if you read up in the law books...almost nobody knows that in louisiana, but if you are not a driver for hire then they cannot ticket you for speeding. they still do but if you try to fight it in court you can get out of it and they drop the charges.

Ok. I took your advice. Looked up the Louisiana law. Seemed like a good idea. So, here's what I found.

§61. Maximum speed limit
A. No person shall operate a vehicle on any highway of this state in excess of fifty-five miles per hour, unless a lower maximum speed is posted on the highway, except as follows:
(1) No person shall operate a vehicle on any interstate or controlled access highway of this state in excess of seventy miles per hour.
(2) No person shall operate a vehicle on any multi-lane divided highway of this state which has partial or no control of access in excess of sixty-five miles per hour.
B. The Department of Transportation and Development shall develop criteria to determine which portions of a highway warrant a speed limit lower than the speed limits established by this Section. The criteria shall be based on an engineering study which shall consider, but not necessarily be limited to, the design speed of the road, the road geometry, the use of land surrounding the road, and the accident history of the road.
Amended by Acts 1964, No. 369, §1; Acts 1974, No. 521, §1; Acts 1977, No. 113, §1, eff. June 22, 1977; Acts 1982, No. 191, §1, eff. Jan. 1, 1983; Acts 1997, No. 1204, §1.

§64. General speed law
A. No person shall drive a vehicle on the highway within this state at a speed greater than is reasonable and prudent under the conditions and potential hazards then existing, having due regard for the traffic on, and the surface and width of, the highway, and the condition of the weather, and in no event at a speed in excess of the maximum speeds established by this Chapter or regulation of the department made pursuant thereto.
B. Except when a special hazard exists that requires lower speed for compliance with paragraph A of this section, no person shall operate or drive a motor vehicle upon the highways of this state at such a slow speed as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic.
C. Rolling roadblocks shall be prohibited from operating on all Interstate highways in the state.
Acts 1962, No. 310, §1. Amended by Acts 1982, No. 191, §1, eff. Jan. 1, 1983.


http://www.legis.state.la.us/lss/lss.asp?doc=88480

Not sure what to think...........

[justanotheradikt]

when i move back to baton rouge after the end of finals week i will go and scan the page that it is on out of the state law books. you are not looking in the correct spots, it the section that talks about CDL drivers and those only applying to cdl drivers.

but then again...why would i waste the time? i think id know a little more about the situation since i have used it to get out of tickets before? but if you want to continue to drag out this argument about a state you dont know shit about and i live in, then we can.

[zsk]

when i move back to baton rouge after the end of finals week i will go and scan the page that it is on out of the state law books. you are not looking in the correct spots, it the section that talks about CDL drivers and those only applying to cdl drivers.

but then again...why would i waste the time? i think id know a little more about the situation since i have used it to get out of tickets before? but if you want to continue to drag out this argument about a state you dont know shit about and i live in, then we can.

You know what, I don't really care. But, I would really like you to post the info since you have made such a big deal about driving off from Police Officers and flaunting breaking the law. So....If you can please post what you find. What does a Commercial Driver's License (CDL) have to do with it? When should we expect the posting? I know I'll look forward to it. If what you say is true, then I'll look forward to my next trip to Louisiana. Only for the lack of speed limits though. Are you learning anything in school about civil debate of issues?

[justanotheradikt]

but in the meantime you forgot to mention the thing about search warrants. your car is considered personal property and unless the cop has a search warrant he is not allowed to search your car or anything of that matter. which is why i was able to pull away from him and him not put me in jail for it. that is the story you called bs on.

personally i dont give a shit if you believe me or not, i know what i did and my life is no different if you believe me or not. if you want to be e-tough and try to prove me wrong go for it. i was there, i think id know a little more about it than you do. ive also gotten out of countless speeding tickets by going in there and saying there is no way to plea due to it not being a crime, which is why you cannot find the section you are looking for. what you showed was that speeding was a violation of the posted speed limit basically. well yes its a violation but not a crime. if you look at criminal codes it states it not a crime, which is why you can get out of it.

[zsk]

but in the meantime you forgot to mention the thing about search warrants. your car is considered personal property and unless the cop has a search warrant he is not allowed to search your car or anything of that matter. which is why i was able to pull away from him and him not put me in jail for it. that is the story you called bs on.

personally i dont give a shit if you believe me or not, i know what i did and my life is no different if you believe me or not. if you want to be e-tough and try to prove me wrong go for it. i was there, i think id know a little more about it than you do. ive also gotten out of countless speeding tickets by going in there and saying there is no way to plea due to it not being a crime, which is why you cannot find the section you are looking for. what you showed was that speeding was a violation of the posted speed limit basically. well yes its a violation but not a crime. if you look at criminal codes it states it not a crime, which is why you can get out of it.

I don't think we were talking about whether it is a crime, just against the law. Speeding is not usually an infraction that is considered criminal. Just against the law. I guess in all your many years on the earth you have single-handedly managed to beat the Louisiana court system by telling them that it's not a crime? Don't worry, I won't take it personally if you're right and I'm wrong. Why should I? We're just having a discussion. I will wait for a post that contradicts what the law books I referenced.

BTW: Search warrants or permission are pretty standard if the Officer wants to go beyond what is is plain sight or if there are what are defined as "exigent circumstances". The US Supreme Court also said a few years ago that random DUI checkpoints are legal in the United States.

[Boosted03MSP]

I will be honest, I try and hold respect for police officers. There are ALWAYS bad apples in the bunch. I live in Baltimore, we have the nations most corupt police dept. I put up with alot. I do NOT street race ever, I think it is retarded and very immature. But having a modified import, I am pulled over alot. Now if I was a fat old man who barely gets laid anymore and was trying to relive my youth in my 71 Challenger, lord knows I wouldnt get pulled over for loud exhaust or underbody lights (hahaha, like i would have them on my car anyways, just a point). I watch classic cars drive around my area all the time, in my 25 years of life, its weird, I have NEVER seen one pulled over. Yes, I know they dont have emissions etc, but I see more of them doing burnouts and fooling around on the road. Either way, I guess it isnt deserved, but a few people ruin it for everyone. Ricers doing flybys and racing and having fart cannons, i guess they see a trend. Just like a young mans insurance is really high, even if at 23 he's never had an accident, because so many early 20's guys wreck their cars.

Anyways to end my rant, that was mostly pointless, dont hate on the police too much, 9x out of 10 you deserve and just want to bitch because you got caught. Window tint, you know its illegal, catback (most of the time illegal for higher db level) lowering in most states = illegal. Crack in the window, duh, you need to fix it. You just got caught, dont bitch just fix it pay it, and move on.

[justanotheradikt]

I don't think we were talking about whether it is a crime, just against the law. Speeding is not usually an infraction that is considered criminal. Just against the law. I guess in all your many years on the earth you have single-handedly managed to beat the Louisiana court system by telling them that it's not a crime? Don't worry, I won't take it personally if you're right and I'm wrong. Why should I? We're just having a discussion. I will wait for a post that contradicts what the law books I referenced.

BTW: Search warrants or permission are pretty standard if the Officer wants to go beyond what is is plain sight or if there are what are defined as "exigent circumstances". The US Supreme Court also said a few years ago that random DUI checkpoints are legal in the United States.

yes but cops dont carry around search warrants with your name in their pocket. they have to have one for you specifically in order to search.

and in order for you to be tried in court it has to be a crime. atleast here, thats what the court is for. its not a crimal offense as far as you didnt kill somebody, but to plea guilty not guilty it is a criminal matter. if you look on the docket it would be state/parish/county vs. yourself. there are plenty of dumb things that we do every day that are against some stupid law from way back when, you dont get tried in court because it is no longer considered a crime.

if you just look at it in the point of it just being against the law...does that mean cops are above the law? i can understand if they are going to do some offical work, but i rarely see a cop doing the speed limit. its against the law of speeding for them to speed, but not a crime. there is a very thin line there.