What are people sellin their MSP's w/ mods for?

[UnNaturalinc]

It seems like these cars are being sold too cheap.... Just looking for an idea on what people are actually selling their cars for. I saw an 03.5 yellow on AutoTrader (IC and exhaust is all I could see) for $12,300 I think it was... that seems kinda sad, doesn’t it?

[evilmonkeyMSP]

here's one in FL w/ a heck of alot more mods....

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=192960477&dealer_id=57230635&car_year=2003&search_type=both&make=MAZDA&distance=0&model=PROTE&address=75052&certified=&advanced=&max_price=12600&bkms=1143224013849&min_price=12000&end_year=2007&start_year=2000&isp=y&lang=en&cardist=1092

[smo0f]

extremely. it's mostly due to the fact that people don't know what it is. i believe with the release of the mazdaspeed 6 the value of the msp should've went up due to recognition. plus the first thing someone looking for a car assumes when they see all the mods listed (even if it's a stock msp, there's still 'mods' that the searcher isn't aware came stock with the car) is that the car has been raced, and probably beat up.

[MSP#735]

Yes, VERY sad....! I love mine...i look at her everyday the same i did when i first baught her and its been 2 years and 4 months!

[evilmonkeyMSP]

(werd)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c76/evilmonkeymsp/gallery_2_6_118970.jpg

Yes, VERY sad....! I love mine...i look at her everyday the same i did when i first baught her and its been 2 years and 4 months!

[mp3moose]

Welcome to three years ago for the mp3's. Sucks.

[MSP#735]

hell, gotta show case the love of your life (well atlest mine) (thumb)


(werd)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c76/evilmonkeymsp/gallery_2_6_118970.jpg

[evilmonkeyMSP]

The problem is that Mazda did zero marketing for the Mazdaspeed Protege...

[MSP#735]

EXACTLY!!! damn them for this (deadhorse


The problem is that Mazda did zero marketing for the Mazdaspeed Protege...

[RallyeRedSi]

I <3 my MSP, I can't see myself ever getting rid of her

[UnNaturalinc]

Mazda w/ the MSP was like the old guy who tries to be cool... as much as they try they just aren't.

They're getting better though....

Evilmonkey... that's actualy the one I was refering to. I didn't even read what it said.

[evilmonkeyMSP]

LOL yeah... thats a sweet deal

Mazda w/ the MSP was like the old guy who tries to be cool... as much as they try they just aren't.

They're getting better though....

Evilmonkey... that's actualy the one I was refering to. I didn't even read what it said.

[UnNaturalinc]

I <3 my MSP, I can't see myself ever getting rid of her

Sure... I understand that.

But there comes a point when you relize you want something that's a better platform. The F-series is pretty much a joke compared to other setups out there. The MSP is a great mild tuner type car, a good street car. Beyond that though it's kind of sad.

I want something that can show a little better power and performance numbers now.

[daedalus]

Not much... there is a fully built, weisco/cp, MPI, GT28R, 3" Apex, STi 550's, FMIC, on autotrader for 12,300. which is really sad.

[UnNaturalinc]

Not much... there is a fully built, weisco/cp, MPI, GT28R, 3" Apex, STi 550's, FMIC, on autotrader for 12,300. which is really sad.

Didnt you try to sell your car and couldnt get anything good for it?

[evilmonkeyMSP]

you're better off selling the aftermarket crap & going back to stock, because you'll get the same if not more for stock plus the additional $ for the parts

[daedalus]

Didnt you try to sell your car and couldnt get anything good for it?

Yea. I was asking 26,500. In fact, its still listed on modifiedcartrader.com for sale. The biggest serious offer was for 21k. All the others were "oh yea, just let me talk to my dad"...

[UnNaturalinc]

I read MSP's in still good condition w/ good miles were worth 14-15. I've got 20k in parts into mine and feel 20k is a good price for the car.....

[Earful]

I am coming from the Honda/Acura performance camp. I am definately in love with my MSP. Got a good deal on it too. (thumb)

[UnNaturalinc]

you're better off selling the aftermarket crap & going back to stock, because you'll get the same if not more for stock plus the additional $ for the parts

I was thinking about doing that... I jsut dont want to spend all that time doing the de-modding.

How lame to spend hours making your car worse. :-/

[daedalus]

I was thinking about doing that... I jsut dont want to spend all that time doing the de-modding.

How lame to spend hours making your car worse. :-/

I know... but honestly, it really is the best option to get your money back. I mean, i would hate doing it to, but I would've done it to my car if it were possible. My only problem is that everything I addt o my car, i sell the stock part to offset the expense, thus, i cant de-mod it! lol.

[03MzdSpdSTP]

well 12k is pretty decent since I bought mine brand new for 16k the car is over 3years old now. I bought my second msp for 14k with 12k miles on it mint in spicy orange which was super rare to find.

You might as well part it out since banks won't lend 20k for a protege and most guys that want a protege don't have cash laying around.

[txrxs]

It's at the point now where it's almost cheaper to sell your stock/lightly modded msp and buy a built msp for less then you owe.

[GrandBelialKey]

It's at the point now where it's almost cheaper to sell your stock/lightly modded msp and buy a built msp for less then you owe.
I was kinda thinking about doing that...

[UnNaturalinc]

It's at the point now where it's almost cheaper to sell your stock/lightly modded msp and buy a built msp for less then you owe.

Yeah, buy that yellow one and start from there... haha


I'm looking into 99-00 M3's now. I don't think an STI isn't going to happen.

[txrxs]

Fc Only! Azn_drft

[JCell]

i love my lil ES, it's paid off and it'll get to teh junkyard b4 going to autotrader
:D

[Tommy1005]

I'm asking 13,500 for mine.....haven't even put it on autotrader yet though, so we'll see how it goes.......I think I'm going to get the Trailblazer SS to replace it because I need a SUV, so why not get one with a 395hp version of the corvette LS2!!!!! Wish me luck on the sale, it probably won't happen......damn mazda and not advertising about this car or any of the mazdaspeed line for that matter......it's ridiculous that a dealer will give more money for a P5 than a MSP

[UnNaturalinc]

Fc Only! Azn_drft

Chicks don't like FC's though.... Well, my ex liked it. But yeah... AZN_DRFTZ don't pull chicks.

And in the big picture, that is the only reason why we waste money on cars right? Is to pull chicks... (confused)

[speedprotegewi]

totally off topic, but JCell i damn near fell outta my chair laughing when i saw your picture in your signature (rlaugh)

[Alejo_NIN]

SHAME ON PPL TRYING TO SEL THEIR MSP's.....

[zentrandi]

hell, i wish i had 12k laying around. I'd offer him that because of the trip i would have to make to pick it up...

[Tommy1005]

I'll sell you mine for $12,500 and you would only have to drive 30 minutes!!!!!

[zentrandi]

i wish i had 12k laying around

The Magic words... I WISH
=( I would if i could... i would rather have a titanium one than a yellow one for attention purposes. But, i like the yellow color (shrug)

[Tommy1005]

I know, just thought I'd throw it out there.....I'd rather sell it to someone in the mazda family than trade it in at the stealership

[UnNaturalinc]

I would imagine the secret would be w/ NOT selling it on a place like this. To some non-mazdafanboy.

Not sure what I want to do yet... but I'm not going to take it in the rear due to what book value is due to them not taking the MS'ness into account.

[daedalus]

I would imagine the secret would be w/ NOT selling it on a place like this. To some non-mazdafanboy.

Not sure what I want to do yet... but I'm not going to take it in the rear due to what book value is due to them not taking the MS'ness into account.

Ditto... prices are rediculously deflated on this forum...

[mspeedpro]

i know exactly what im going to do when it is time to sell the msp... head to westlake (rich part of austin where plenty of the little kids are going to UT) and park her near the high school. i am pretty positive some kid from the school will just beg his parent to let him buy the orange sweet looking car.... i cant imagine going below 13 or 14 ever in this environment. thank god for UT

[GHOSTWHISPER]

Well I dont know if it is like this for other people, but as you get a little older these things dont matter anymore. I will probably get rid of my p5 pretty soon. I have grown out of it. It is a fun car, but it has its quirks. And the msp has more. But most people are not willing to pay a premium on a car that has been modded. I know when i look for a car I look for a car that is pretty close to stock. I like doing everything to my car myself, not someone else. So I will pay a higher price for something clean, and stock that was driven by a grandma then some kid.

But I am weird. I know it doesnt make sense, you spend all of this money and you actually get less then someone else that has kept there car stock. But nobody ever said modding your vehicle was a investment tool, its not. Its a waste of money but we still do it, because it is a fun hobby. I would think you would get more money for it here then anywere else, mainly because people know your car, and know what is involved in it.

It will scare off the ho humm driver that knows nothing about the car.

[UnNaturalinc]

I wouldn't buy a fully modded car either.

But everyone is different. Obviously I'm not going to be selling my car to someone who likes to do everything them self.

[zentrandi]

My only reason for wanting to buy it is mostly the built engine... but i'd rather do that myself too. Another reason is to part it and sell it again

so that only really doesnt belong....

[zentrandi]

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?&dealer_id=75830&model3=GTI&end_year=2007&make2=SUB&address=77449&start_year=1981&fuel=&certified=&car_id=197918550&isp=y&search_type=both&max_mileage=&drive=&min_price=&engine=&distance=75&transmission=Manual&lang=en&bkms=1143558488964&make=MAZDA&model2=IMPREZ&car_year=2003&cardist=33&doors=&max_price=&advanced=y&make3=VOLKS&model=PROTE&color=#vdptop

here in houston. i dont think it's modded, and its labeled as a reg ass protege

[zentrandi]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mazda-Protege-Mazdaspeed-Extra-Clean-Rare-2003-5-Mazdaspeed-Protege-for-Sale_W0QQitemZ4628382083QQcategoryZ6326QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

anyone know who this is?

[smo0f]

mazda marketing really sucks. all i hear about is the 3. if i wasnt on this board, i wouldnt know about the ms6, or the 5, or the up and coming cars. maybe it's because i dont watch much tv but still

[zentrandi]

they do jack shit to market. thats why there's no real after market for us... i see fucking honda ads everywhere ppl always dog the rx8 too... gawd!!!

[UnNaturalinc]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mazda-Protege-Mazdaspeed-Extra-Clean-Rare-2003-5-Mazdaspeed-Protege-for-Sale_W0QQitemZ4628382083QQcategoryZ6326QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

anyone know who this is?

Is that seriously how the HiBoost IC charge pipe is? (uhm)

[miss_steele_msp]

damn I was hoping to get a least 13 for mine.

[txrxs]

stock exhaust and 243hp huh?

[txrxs]

I just got offered 8K, its a sad day when that was a serious offer.

[nvmsp]

Is that seriously how the HiBoost IC charge pipe is? (uhm)


Never seen that pipe where the BOV is on. Most kits, the pipe goes under, not over.

[nvmsp]

they completely riced out the ass of the car.

[UnNaturalinc]

Never seen that pipe where the BOV is on. Most kits, the pipe goes under, not over.

Yeah... that setup sucks bigtime. It's just random pieces fit together and way longer than it needs to be.


With that IC setup, the stock exhaust, stock fuel.... I'm saying he's got a boost controller and boosting WAAAY too much or he's lying about power numbers. It doesn't even come close to adding up, even with a factory freak.

[nvmsp]

isnt 243HP what Unichip says in their little flyer. In flywheel HP?

[UnNaturalinc]

isnt 243HP what Unichip says in their little flyer. In flywheel HP?

248 crank horsepower on Unichip's (Dastek) dyno is what was done on my car and what is advertised on their site.



This guy claimed 243whp. "This Vehicle was last Dyno'd to put out 243 HP to the front wheels and 234 lb/tq"

I don't know of any dyno that actually does crank hp other than the Dastek anyway.

[bullitzx2]

yea i think he's lying through his teeth about 243 to the wheels unless he's boosting way to much like was previously stated and if it really is making tht much power with tht little of mods theni wouldnt want to purchase it cuz who knows how much life is left in the motor.

[b_dues]

Yes, VERY sad....! I love mine...i look at her everyday the same i did when i first baught her and its been 2 years and 4 months!

Funny, I do the same. Park it at the back of a parking lot, away from other cars and look back at it every 10 seconds to see it in a different angle. Kind of obsessive but in my oppinion this car is the best bang for the buck, and I also still love it as much as the day i bought it.

[UnNaturalinc]

Funny, I do the same. Park it at the back of a parking lot, away from other cars and look back at it every 10 seconds to see it in a different angle. Kind of obsessive but in my oppinion this car is the best bang for the buck, and I also still love it as much as the day i bought it.

I think we all do that... you're just not suppose to admit to it. ;)

Best bang for your buck on a particular scale... sure, but not so much in the slightly bigger scheme of things. These engines are extremely weak compared to many others out there. If you could get 3, maybe 400hp out of the stock bottom end safely. I’d have no thought about wanting to sell my car anytime soon. :)

[RallyeRedSi]

Is that seriously how the HiBoost IC charge pipe is? (uhm)


wrod wuts up with that pipe, but it looks like he had is Maf reloctated

[quatelate]

ok this one has no mods but i had to post it up because of the price http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=199050336&dealer_id=57211018&car_year=2003&search_type=both&make=MAZDA&distance=0&model=PROTE&address=33134&certified=&advanced=&max_price=&bkms=1144346144879&min_price=&end_year=2003&start_year=2003&isp=y&lang=en&cardist=1990

[speedprotegewi]

ok this one has no mods but i had to post it up because of the price http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=199050336&dealer_id=57211018&car_year=2003&search_type=both&make=MAZDA&distance=0&model=PROTE&address=33134&certified=&advanced=&max_price=&bkms=1144346144879&min_price=&end_year=2003&start_year=2003&isp=y&lang=en&cardist=1990


(omg) dealerships..... sad part is they probably will find some sucker to pay what they cost new too

[UnNaturalinc]

20K + miles and still selling at full blown MSRP in 03? Amazing....

[zentrandi]

20K + miles and still selling at full blown MSRP in 03? Amazing....
exactly! Who do they think they are? Chuck Norris?

[bullitzx2]

kelly blue book even says it should go for atleast 18k in excellent condition but i think i heard kelly blue book's prices are higher than the actual price it should be.

[UnNaturalinc]

kelly blue book even says it should go for atleast 18k but i think kelly blue book's prices are higher than the actual price it should be.

Nice, KBB didnt have MS option before....

Based on my mileage and zip mine is worth $19,200 That's more than I paid for the car! lol

Yeah, that does seem a bit high.

[Jackelope]

I'm only ask'n 11k for mine, no bites yet...