HID help please! [Archive]

jtmp3

03-20-2006, 11:09 PM

I just bought the cqlights h4 hid kit and the halogen high beam works but the hid low beam does not work, what could be the problem?? the wiring harness will not let you install them wrong. I was thinking the actual harness that plugs into the h4 factory harness is wired wrong. all fuses are good and everyhing hooked up per instructions. Niether side works.

safariMP3

03-20-2006, 11:11 PM

both are burned out ?

jtmp3

03-20-2006, 11:29 PM

well i bought it brand new and would think if i got a bad ignitor that the other would work but the odds of getting two bad ignitors is pretty slim I would think. I was thinking the harnees that plugs into the h4 harness is wired for a different car. it only fits one way but I think it might be wired wrong. Is there any way to tell?

jtmp3

03-20-2006, 11:41 PM

c'mon input input.

pb4ugoout

03-21-2006, 01:04 AM

i know that with most of them they have to both be in the car at the same time for them to work. when i did my install the first time i changed one bulb and it didn't work so i swapped it out with the other and when it still didn't work i freaked out. on a whim i decided to hook both up just for shits and giggles and it worked. do you have one of those battery jumpers you could test it on. i guess any 12V power supply would do just make sure you check the amps so you have enough to light the bulbs. at least that way you could test the bulbs individually

jtmp3

03-21-2006, 09:37 AM

The website said that the h4 factory harness might be wired with reverse polarity and the unit is not getting power. any suggestions on how to fix this without cutting the harnesses.

yashart_mp3

03-21-2006, 09:42 AM

you have it wired wrong. Your low beams should be the only thing that come on. And thats it.... unless you bought a hi/low bulb, then only your low (or high) beams will work. not both.

The protege5 guys have a little better, because they seperate bulbs, one for high and one for low. SO they can have HID lows, and keep their stock high beams. Since we use an H4, you have to buy a dual filament bulb...

You have this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/yashart7/413443_136_full.jpg

You need this if you want high & low beams:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/yashart7/413443_138_full.jpg

*pics taken from xenon-shop

jtmp3

03-21-2006, 10:06 AM

I have the one in the bottom picture. the high beam hooks up seperatly with a different harness and it works but the harness tha plugs in ot the hid (low) is not working.

jtmp3

03-21-2006, 10:39 AM

The only thing I could think of is the poarity of the factory h4 harness is backwards from the get go. I will have to cut the hid harness and switch black and wires around an see if that works, would the fuse blow or the bulbs blow if I switched them around??

pb4ugoout

03-22-2006, 08:34 AM

they ballasts won't let you damage the bulbs with the wrong polarity. i couldn't get the HIDS in my tC to work at all. that was the last thing i did on a whim. Everything was wired up color for color but it didn't work. I switched the red and the black going into the ballast and they came on. i doubt you damaged anything

jtmp3

03-22-2006, 10:05 AM

I will try that, the connectors only plug in one way so I will have to cut the black and red ones and switch them around and see what happens. We'll se if that works tonight. What are the bulb sizes for your TC, is it an H4 too?? The directions said that some H4's have reverse polarity. So all you did was switch the positive and negative around?? Did yours have plugs that only went one way??

jtmp3

03-23-2006, 12:52 AM

Sending them back tomorrow, they worked but were very DIM and flickered lick hell and never really got bright at all they stayed so dim I could barely tell they were on.

03.5MSP

03-23-2006, 01:33 AM

You dont have to cut the harness. Just push out the wires from your harness with a screwdriver and reverse them. This will allow you to run low beams but not high. If you try to use the high beam it will flicker. Im still searching for a way to get both to work. The odd thing is that it always shows that I have my high beams on.

jtmp3

03-23-2006, 08:20 AM

I did reverse them but I have ti have them on bright to get the low beam hid's to work and when I switch to low beam the hid's go off.

03.5MSP

03-23-2006, 03:39 PM

Reverse the negative and the positive sides. There should be if im not mistaken twi white and one black wires. By reversing the position of the black and white high beam wire it should work. The negative black wire should no thave anything to do with ti , but it might me in the wrong position, same as the white wires.

jtmp3

03-23-2006, 04:38 PM

Oh, ok, I will try different combinations tonight. I will keep you posted.

03.5MSP

03-23-2006, 05:54 PM

Yeah just try, alternating them. I had the same problems like you. Im in the process of trying to figure out if we need a relay, or different wiring, in order to have both low and high beams. If it dosent work out let me know, ill try to go and take pics of mine and we can maybe compare, and see what you can do.

jtmp3

03-23-2006, 11:02 PM

well they work on low beam but not on high beam. it has the extra halogen bulb for highs but when i plug it up it comes on with the low beams so i just unhooked it and am running the low beams.

03.5MSP

03-24-2006, 02:02 PM

Yeah, mine has the halogen for the high beams too, but when i try to turn my high beams on, my hid's flicker, so I dont use high beams.

jtmp3

03-24-2006, 02:19 PM

Wierd ain't it?? I tried every which way to find the combination that worked, I had t ounhook the high beam socket, but now when I turn on the highs the lows go off. BUt if I keep the high beams hooked up they will stay on even on low beam??? I give up. The hid's work that's all that matters.

03.5MSP

03-24-2006, 07:51 PM

lol, i hear ya. Im trying to figure out a way for mine to work with both low and high. If I do figure it out ill let you know.

Does anyone know if we will fail emissions if our high beams dont work???

jtmp3

03-25-2006, 05:45 PM

OK. everything is working but now the parking lights falsh on and off even with the lights off and my brake lights will not go off when I turn on the parking lights. It looks like I am driving around with my brakes on. The only way to get the brake lights off is to turn the lights off all together.

03.5MSP

03-25-2006, 11:23 PM

Bump for info about passing inspection without high beams. I live in PA.

jtmp3

03-26-2006, 04:03 PM

We don't have that here. thank god or I would be up the creek without a paddle.

jtmp3

04-05-2006, 12:57 PM

Any news on getting those high beams to work??

03.5MSP

04-05-2006, 04:01 PM

no, not yet, and i got inspection due this month, damn.

Jag61180

09-02-2006, 02:27 AM

03.5MSP

09-03-2006, 01:08 AM

why dont you just plug in a regular bulb for inspection.... take you all of 2 min.

BTW I am finding this post cause I couldnt get my hids to work. I think the reverse polarity thing is the prob. I ordered only HID lows but they sent me the damn dual ones... urg

Thats wat i did, but i have to reverse the negative and the two positives in order for it to work. Its a pain but oh well.