Goodbye MSP!

[sweetlou69]

well my motor blew in my MSP and i will be putting it back to stock and trading it in..i will have lots of good shit for sale in a few weeks so keep your eyes out..its been a sweet ride for the past 2.5 years but has been fallin apart left and right lately so its time to move on..

[boostisgood]

Ouch sorry to hear man. Popped engines suck. When mine blew, it was like losing a kid until she came back.

[sweetlou69]

ya it feels like someone died.. i just paid 1285 for a new lsd last wed and the engine blew thurs nite.. so i really dont wanna pay like 4000$ to get it fixed so im parting it out and movin on

[RallyeRedSi]

how did it blow

[sweetlou69]

i am not positive yet.. its going to be looked at to find out for sure

[smo0f]

damn man i know the feeling. engine blew in mid december, still haven't driven it since. seen her like 3 or 4 times. car should be ready to go hopefully by mid april. that's when i estimate i can pay off the balance on the engine work anyways. but yeah, it's been a lonnnggggggg time and i been going nuts for the last 3 months

[Mutmatt]

any exaust? i will be looking for one soon and a unichip too :) but those hold value better than exhaust so i think exhaust is more in my area

[03MSP]

Sorry to hear man, all these stories have scared me into buying a MAM block, guess that's a good thing though.

Good luck with whatever car you get after this.

[RallyeRedSi]

how come your engine blew




damn man i know the feeling. engine blew in mid december, still haven't driven it since. seen her like 3 or 4 times. car should be ready to go hopefully by mid april. that's when i estimate i can pay off the balance on the engine work anyways. but yeah, it's been a lonnnggggggg time and i been going nuts for the last 3 months

[Nutari]

how come your engine blew
i am not positive yet.. its going to be looked at to find out for sure (boom03)

[sweetlou69]

i do have an exhaust i have the full ghl DP 3".. prob has 2000 miles on it.. ask terbow

[RallyeRedSi]

i don't know why people are so easy to give up on the MSP

[sweetlou69]

i had mine for 2.5 years..i had full faith until my fuel pump went,cd player,LSD and blown motor all since the end of jan..thats when i realized its time to call it quits on this car.. i dont beat on it and it only had 36k on it

[RallyeRedSi]

i had a bad fuel pump, sub woofer went went wack, head unit died, had my clunck fixed twice gonna go for the 3rd, my stock pipes popping off, been towed 4 times, i still don't understand how your motor blew, too much boost?

[sweetlou69]

nah was only boostin 7psi w.many mods and the MPI tuner on a very consertative tune

[Captain KRM P5]

if you are at all open to the idea, i can get you a used engine for far cheaper than $4000. you have spent an awful lot of money on the car to give up on her now.

[sweetlou69]

nah ive given up on the MSP and im gonna be movin on

[sweetlou69]

i dont want to give up on her..im just afraid next it will be the tranny,the clutch, axles who knows what..just sucks i just replaced my LSD also..

[RallyeRedSi]

dmanif i ever sold my car or totaled it i would kicks my self in the ass for spending over 5,000 dollars for it to go drown the drain

[sweetlou69]

ya luckily i can sell most of what i have and just lose alittle bit and obviously the repairs

[MikeAwesome42]

hey, im local in MA (brookline) so i would be interested in some of your body stuff, so PM me when youre ready to part out

[bazooka joe]

pm sent

[Hellnightkid]

damn...even at 7 psi, u blew ur engine with those support mods. i feel sorry to hear it. I wont any extra money to spend on a blew engine and broken LSD either

[JDM Sam]

Sucks to hear dude. Good time to move onto bigger and badder toys.

[terbow]

yea make sure u bring it to me to mod if u get something nice. :)

[Maxxpwr]

yeah thats sad man, only 36k... i'll keep a look out for anything you might be selling.

[JDM Sam]

hahahah lol stay away from tony!

[sweetlou69]

well i got the verdict on my car..one of the connecting rods shot a hole right thru the side of the block..kinda shitty seein i was only runnin at like 7psi with a very conservative mpi tune

[speedprotegewi]

well i got the verdict on my car..one of the connecting rods shot a hole right thru the side of the block..kinda shitty seein i was only runnin at like 7psi with a very conservative mpi tune

ouch.... that sux (boom07) the thought has crossed through my head of if/when my msp blows up, what would i do? i would probably go with upgraded/rebuilt motor personally, its just too fun of a car to get rid of imo. however, good luck with whatever choice you make

[terbow]

sigh :(

[sweetlou69]

change of heart? well after lookin at my car all week just sittin there w/a blown motor i admired how sweet it looked everyday..then i got the idea of just replacin the motor and keepin it the way it is? so now i am torn between the idea of puttin it back to stock and gettin rid of it or puttin it the used motor and continue to mod it? i cannot make up my damn mind

[03MzdSpdSTP]

well obviouly the mpi tune wasn't conservative. Engines just don't throw rods, plenty of people running unichip with out problems running 10+ psi.

[sweetlou69]

tru but at the same time weve also seen people blow motors at 8+9 psi

[Omar MSP]

jus keep the msp... its a rare breed, there rarely seen, specially yours cuz it looks awesome... you'll regret it afterwards... u gonna buy a car everybody see's and there gonna say, o its that one car yea my boy has one jus like it but in blue... u know? i never ever heard that from anybody with my msp, maybe u'll hear that once or twice a year, but as u see its rarely...

[sweetlou69]

ya good point

[nvmsp]

You sure the MPI didnt lose it's tune, because of the stock ecu trying to change the tune back ?

[bazooka joe]

change of heart? well after lookin at my car all week just sittin there w/a blown motor i admired how sweet it looked everyday..then i got the idea of just replacin the motor and keepin it the way it is? so now i am torn between the idea of puttin it back to stock and gettin rid of it or puttin it the used motor and continue to mod it? i cannot make up my damn mind

haha...fix it man!!(thumb)

[sweetlou69]

wel if it did lose its tune the stock tune should be safe though right?

[terbow]

no the mpi clamps the signal so the stock tune in boost means nothing. thats y u have a wideband :)

[03MSP]

Get a MAM Block :) you know you won't be able to stop modding...

[nvmsp]

no the mpi clamps the signal so the stock tune in boost means nothing. thats y u have a wideband :)


I dunno about that, i know for a fact you have to keep adjusting the #'s,even after you get tuned(every so often). but yea, you were boosting 7, so wtf. I really don't know why it blew.

[Dark-one]

a new motor will only cost 600$ if you do all the work yourself use a 2.0 protege engine

[Mutmatt]

parts man... if u are going to rebuild do it right! used quality and build it like a god of all engines! 20+ psi here he comes :( no for me tho

[mspeedpro]

how much would it cost to let a shop pull out a blown engine and just drop in a used 2.0?? I've wondered several times what I would do if it blew... I guess buy a used motor and rebuild back to stock, sell off the car and the few aftermarket parts i have and go a whole new direction... tsx? a4? gli?

[terbow]

I dunno about that, i know for a fact you have to keep adjusting the #'s,even after you get tuned(every so often). but yea, you were boosting 7, so wtf. I really don't know why it blew.

yea ur adjusting the tune over the stock one. so it doenst matter what map the stock ecu is on cause u need to check ur wideband is waht i mean

[D-rock240]

Yeah, I'd say keep it. Now you can build the engine right (like Mazda should have done in the first place) and I would keep it just because you've spent a lot setting up the car for your own style. You'll just have to start from scratch again with another car.

[nvmsp]

yea ur adjusting the tune over the stock one. so it doenst matter what map the stock ecu is on cause u need to check ur wideband is waht i mean

ok.


So Sweetlou, what's the word on what happened?

[Puckpimp71]

He traded it in for a mad tyte Aveo

[nvmsp]

hope not. Corolla Type S all the way.

[sweetlou69]

somehow i shot a rod thru the side of the block

[sweetlou69]

but i did decide to keep it and fix it up

[bazooka joe]

but i did decide to keep it and fix it up

so i guess no hood for me....:(

[sweetlou69]

anyone know what would cause me to shoot a rod right out of the side of the block?

[yesiownaskyline]

detonation? Overall rod weakness? Boost spike? Do you have an FCD?

Pick your poison man. Do you have the MPI datalogs from when it blew? Were the A/F ratios OK before? Any signs earlier?

Aynways, sucks to hear.

[tallrd]

anyone know what would cause me to shoot a rod right out of the side of the block?

as soon as our cars know you've modified something it turns into a ticking time bomb. It probably developed a crack in the rod when you put the hood on ;)

I agree that they are rare and look sweet, & therefore worth puting in an engine that's built right. Don't skimp on the rebuild or you'll likely regret it. If you have the $, you should seriously consider getting the better block/rods/pistons so you don't even have to think about blowing it again.

[nvmsp]

anyone know what would cause me to shoot a rod right out of the side of the block?


do you beat the shit out of the car? What oil r u using? Do you take off under 3,000 rpms alot?(rtfm) Did you call Nick and see if your settings on the MPI are still correct? I don't know but I'm just trying to ask questions.

[sweetlou69]

do you beat the shit out of the car? What oil r u using? Do you take off under 3,000 rpms alot?(rtfm) Did you call Nick and see if your settings on the MPI are still correct? I don't know but I'm just trying to ask questions.

i did not drive my car hard..took it to the 1/4 mile once..never launched it on the street.ive been using mobil 1..im not positive y i blew my engine

[nvmsp]

I have a feeling, the day I get EMS or not too long after that my motor is going to explode.

[jeffmsp]

could have been alot of different things. how do the pistons look?

[sweetlou69]

im not sure i havent pulled the block out yet

[apocman]

what's this mean? you have any idea on how to tune? then don't make a blanket statement. I have been running 12-16psi+ since 03 with no problems... so agian, don't make a blanket statement unless you know what you are talking about.

well obviouly the mpi tune wasn't conservative. Engines just don't throw rods, plenty of people running unichip with out problems running 10+ psi.

[sweetlou69]

ya i agree w/you man.. i had a very conservative tune..i started to tune it w/terbows help and i was still only at like a 10.5 which is still very safe and very rich