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Vision67
03-18-2006, 04:46 PM
Post links in this group of reviews:
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1142549412696&call_pageid=970599119419
* Antoine here...Great Review! by Jim Kenzie:
TUSTIN, Calif.—The term "crossover" in the automobile world is like the phrase "business casual" in the dress code world: nobody really knows what it means.
A crossover can be anything from a minivan dipped in gold (Chrysler Pacifica), to a jacked-up station wagon (Subaru Outback) to a purpose-built vehicle like today's subject, the Mazda CX-7.
What all these vehicles have in common — or at least strive for — is to combine the carrying capacity and practicality of a minivan, without the soccer-mom stigma associated with these things, especially in the United States; and the tall seating position and go-anywhere capability of an SUV, without their stigma for wasting the earth's resources, or the associated penalities of ride, handling, safety and weight.
The CX-7 originated in the fertile minds of Mazda's North American research and development centre in nearby Irvine, from whence many years ago also emerged the concept for the Miata.
In response to a query from the Hiroshima head office about what sort of vehicles Mazda needed to succeed on this continent, Robert Davis, Mazda Motors North America's senior vice-president, product development and quality, and his team chose a compact crossover/SUV as the first of a list of three such North America-priority vehicles that will be appearing over the next year or so.
With this facility's history with the Miata, it's not surprising that they also wanted to dial in a dash of sportiness.
The CX-7 first broke cover at the Detroit auto show in 2005 as the MX-Crossport concept vehicle. At that point, it was about halfway into its 26-month gestation period and even then it was clear the vehicle was production-intended.
The concept's sleek lines have survived into the real deal almost intact which, according to program manager Shunsuke Kawasaki, proved something of a challenge to the engineers.
"For instance, it was hard to make the high seating position work with the fast (steeply laid-back) windshield and still pass crash tests," he said.
The broad-shouldered front fenders and strong character lines leading from the sides of the grille to the windshield pillars are strongly reminiscent of the RX-8 and the new MX-5 Miata, helping establish a consistent brand identity as well as strengthening the sporting connection.
The roof slants downwards as it moves rearward, and the upper body also tapers inwards, making the car look smaller if you're following it than if it is gaining on you.
In all, it is an eye-catching, handsome and unique look.
The interior features what Kawasaki calls a dual-roof instrument panel: a small eyebrow over a line of digital readouts, with a deeper cowl over the main dash. A three-circle set of dials keeps you aware of what's happening with the oily bits.
The CX-7 is a two-row, five-seat vehicle.
"The buyer of a vehicle like this is typically a young married couple, with maybe one child, and has no interest in a three-rows-of-seats SUV," says a Mazda U.S. spokesman. "But they do want lots of room for their stuff."
This is aided by the split-folding rear seat backs, which borrow the oh-so-easy single-flick-of-a-lever release mechanism from the Mazda6 wagon and hatchback.
Mechanically, the CX-7 borrows bits from all across the Mazda product spectrum. Contrary to some reports, it is not based on the same platform as the soon-to-be-Oakville-built Ford Edge and Lincoln MK X, which are more closely related to Mazda's new Japan-only MPV minivan.
"Those three are more like siblings to each other, but cousins to the CX-7," said Kawasaki.
The front MacPherson strut suspension is similar though, while the rear is closer to that of the Mazda3 and Mazda5, although the lower mounting point for the rear dampers has been moved from the bottom of the upright to the top, to allow clearance for the rear drive shafts in the optional four-wheel drive system.
The only engine offered is a 2.3 litre turbocharged twin-cam 16-valve four-cylinder, lifted essentially intact from the Mazdaspeed6 high-performance sedan. It produces 244 horsepower at 5000 r.p.m., and a healthy 258 lb.-ft. of torque which peaks at a low 2500 r.p.m., and continues to no less than 99 per cent of that value right up to 5000 r.p.m.
It is what Mazda calls a DISI (pronounced dizzy) engine, standing for Direct Injection, Spark Ignition. Like a diesel, fuel is sprayed directly into the combustion chamber for improved atomization, leading to increased power and reduced consumption and emissions. Unlike a diesel, of course, there is a spark plug.
The usual downside to direct injection is noise; the turbocharger helps to mask this to a degree.
The engine has been re-tuned somewhat to work in concert with the CX-7's only available transmission, a six-speed automatic with manual shift over-ride. (The Mazdaspeed6 comes only with a six-speed manual.)
The CX-7's four-wheel drive system is the same as that on the Mazdaspeed6 too, a full-time deal that sends up to 50 per cent of the torque to the rear axle depending on front-wheel slippage. There's also a Torsen limited-slip differential at the rear.
Big four-wheel ventilated disc brakes with ABS, Electronic Brake Force Distribution (assuring each wheel gets maximum possible braking force before ABS cuts in), traction control and directional stability control are all standard.
If all that doesn't bail you out, six airbags — dual front, dual side and side curtains — just might.
Two trim levels will be offered in Canada: the GS at $31,995 gets the now-expected stuff like air-con, power windows, mirrors and locks with remote keyless entry, cruise and a four-speaker AM-FM stereo audio system, the latter two features both with steering-wheel-mounted controls.
Heated exterior mirrors are a nice touch for our climate.
Major options include a sunroof ($1,000) and four-wheel drive ($2,000).
The GT model at $35,195 adds the sunroof, plus Xenon headlights, leather-trimmed upholstery, heated front seats, power adjustment for the driver's seat, automatic air-con, rear cargo cover and upgraded interior and exterior trim.
Options include again four-wheel drive ($2,000), a Luxury package ($1,000 — a nine-speaker premium BOSE audio system with surround sound and a six-CD changer, plus a key fob-activated smart-key ignition system) and DVD-based satellite navigation with touch-screen control ($3,150).
Tony Harold, manager of product strategies and development for Mazda Canada, figures the GS/GT split of the expected 5,000 annual sales will be about 50/50, with maybe 55 per cent in total opting for the four-wheel drive system. What do I know, but my guess is that it'll be higher that that — in our country, why would you not?
We didn't get the chance to evaluate the all-weather traction capabilities of the CX-7 during our preview drive — another boring day in the paradise that is southern California.
But the well-paved two-lane twisties did display this car's remarkable nimbleness. It really does feel considerably smaller than it looks and quite agile despite its not-inconsequential weight of 1,784 kg (for the four-wheel drive version I drove; the front-drive model is 101 kg lighter).
The handling is very nice: all of these genetically-linked Ford/Mazda/Volvo-badged cars have terrific steering and a flat cornering stance, and this one is no different despite its taller height.
Ride quality is also good: firm enough to give confidence that it can handle a fairly decent cargo load, but never too harsh.
The engine pulls strongly from very low revs and turbo lag is never in evidence. The exhaust note gets a little raucous at higher r.p.m., making me wonder whether maybe some slices of the intended market might prefer the quiet and smoothness of a V6 over the extra urge of the turbo four.
Program manager Kawasaki assured me that a V6 would not be consistent with the sporty character they want this vehicle to deliver. It's a moot point in any case, since he also said a V6 wouldn't fit in the CX-7's engine bay.
The transmission shifts well in either automatic or manual mode. The manual over-ride follows the race-car sequential shift concept of pulling back on the shift lever to upshift — it is more logical, since you're being thrust back into the seat under acceleration and it makes sense to pull back to move up a ratio; likewise, under braking you're thrust forward, so a forward motion of the level makes sense to downshift.
The only problem is that virtually everyone else does it backwards, and customers coming into a CX-7 from any other manufacturer with a manual over-ride automatic may get confused, at least initially.
My only other minor concern is that perhaps the shift lever itself is a bit too far back on the centre console for optimum reach as the console interfered with my elbow in spirited driving.
The seats are comfortable and supportive, the rear seat is commodious and the tapered roofline doesn't compromise headroom, at least not for my 168 cm frame. The luggage area is deep and wide, with a low lift-over.
The floor of the cargo hold is carpeted on one side, with hard plastic on the other. Hauling peat moss or dirt bikes? Flip it over, then remove it when you get home and hose it off. Clever.
Mazda is aiming the CX-7 at customers who currently shop price-similar vehicles like Honda CR-V (by far the segment leader) or Toyota RAV4, although from a style and image perspective, they have the considerably more expensive Nissan Murano in their sights.
The CX-7 appears to have the goods to succeed. It's an SUV when necessary, but not necessarily an SUV.
Can't get more Canadian than that.
stangmatt66
03-20-2006, 01:32 PM
Good review. I wish they would have focused more on driving the CX-7.
But at least they posted the first pic I've seen with the non-nav radio..
http://www.thestar.com/images/thestar/img/060318_wh_mazrear_300.jpg
Antoine
03-23-2006, 01:03 AM
(bump) for a super detailed review!
Zoom49
03-27-2006, 09:21 AM
A review from Canada (their pricing)
http://www.cartalkcanada.com/forum/index.php/topic,44745.0.html
Looks like they like it!! (thumb)
"The optional 9-speaker Bose stereo is simply stunning. Loud, clean sound with deep bass"
" The turbocharged engine might seem an odd choice at first but it's what gives the CX-7 a different personality from its V6-powered competitors. Mazda's new so called DISI four is smooth, dead-silent at a cruise, yet it has a voice under acceleration and offers gentle swells of torque that allow the CX-7 to cruise effortlessly at speeds well above our national limit. "
Vision67
03-30-2006, 07:19 PM
http://www.mississauganews.com/mi/wheels/story/3411319p-3945078c.html
Zoom49
04-20-2006, 01:14 AM
Another review, they will be coming fast and furious now.
http://www.latimes.com/classified/automotive/highway1/la-hy-neil19apr19,0,2556233.story?coll=la-class-autos-highway1
Zoom49
04-30-2006, 01:31 AM
Here is another review from Road & Track. Dont have file link only this scan from my mag. I think you will be able to see and read it ok if you print the image. Also another review in this months Motor Ternd (Very Positive)(rtfm)
Antoine
04-30-2006, 08:40 AM
* Stickied for your viewing pleasure :D
Zoom49
04-30-2006, 01:20 PM
Another review for your viewing pleasure(rtfm)
syadasti
05-01-2006, 07:22 AM
The Car Connection
Sports car or sport-ute? Spend a few hours behind the wheel of Mazda's new CX-7 and you might start to wonder. And with good reason, for while the Japanese maker's Miata and RX-8 are the classic examples of "zoom-zoom" engineering, the CX-7 is likely to make you forget you're driving a crossover.
http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle_Reviews/SUVs_Wagons/2007_Mazda_CX-7.S181.A10361.html
mikeyb
05-01-2006, 09:03 AM
Channel 4 auto review
http://www.channel4.com/4car/road-tests/M/mazda/cx7-06/index.html
stangmatt66
05-01-2006, 01:42 PM
MSN Autos preview:
http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4023973
Includes some great photos of Electric Blue, Black Cherry Mica, White and the reversible cargo mat.
raylau63
05-05-2006, 12:00 PM
Another review here:
http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/MazdaCX-7/
Engine gets a more in-depth look.
Vision67
05-07-2006, 05:54 PM
A review from Australia. I didn't know that CX-7 also marks the first use by Mazda of a new six-speed automatic from Japanese transmission specialist, Aisin.
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Mazda CX-7
May 2006
Words - John Carey
Words - Chris Gable
Mazda's new CX-7 ignores SUV category conventions to create a sporty, stand-out performer
2006 Mazda CX-7
International Launch
WHAT WE LIKED
Good looks
Strong, responsive and refined engine
Chassis refinement
NOT SO MUCH
Exhaust drone at low revs in high gears
No manual gearbox available
Australian launch not until November
OVERVIEW
There is no rule that says compact SUVs have to be boring to look at and even duller to drive. It's just that this is the way most seem to turn out. Until the new CX-7, that is.
The Mazda satisfies the category criteria, being a tall, five-seat wagon with all-wheel drive, but it also defies category conventions. It's not shaped like a stack of boxes. It's not so sluggish that it leaves a slime trail. It doesn't squeal in terror when confronted with a corner. Yes, the Mazda is different from the rest.
Beneath the shapely body, with its distinctive, waisted daylight opening, the CX-7 utilises major components from a number of existing models. The engine, for example, is from the 6 MPS. From the same source comes the CX-7's clever, electronically controlled, on-demand all-wheel drive system. Up front, the strut-type suspension is closely related to the new MPV, developed from the earlier Mazda 6. And the rear suspension is a wide-track version of the compact multi-link design employed in the Mazda 3 and Mazda 5.
The CX-7's exterior design has the effect of making it appear smaller than it really is. For the record, wheelbase, width, and especially height, are all greater than the Mazda 6, but length is damned close to identical.
The CX-7 was designed for the US market, which is where we had our preview drive. However, the concept version MX Crossport -- first shown at last year's Detroit motor show and at this year's Melbourne motor show -- generated so much interest internationally that the CX-7 has become a hot ticket item in other markets, including Australia.
Mazda Australia says the turbocharged CX-7 goes on sale here in November, so expect a Sydney motor show launch. Although it's available in both front- and all-wheel drive versions in the US, Mazda says we'll get only the all-wheel-drive CX-7 here.
We can explain the CX part of the name -- it's part of Mazda's new global naming strategy, whereby crossover-type SUVs carry the CX designation. But we can't shed any light on the "7" part of the equation, since the CX-7 seats five. The longer-wheelbase CX-9 version to follow in the US -- and being assessed by Mazda Australia for here -- seats seven.
After our North American drive of the CX-7 (see On the Road, below) we can tell you that there's very little wrong with it, and an awful lot that's right. If you've appreciated the pragmatic appeal of a compact SUV, but never been able to bring yourself to take the backward step in style, performance and handling, Mazda has built the car to change your mind.
FEATURES
No specifics for the Australian market yet, and prices are yet to be fixed, but plans are for a two-tier line-up opening at around $45,000, with a lavishly equipped top model at close to $50,000. Premium prices, for sure, but the CX-7 is in a different league.
Standard equipment should include 18-inch wheels, six airbags and such active safety essentials as anti-lock brakes, traction control and ESP. Likely options are a sat-nav system, premium audio and rear-view camera.
The novel two-storey design of the instrument panel disguises its bulk beautifully. The centre console storage box is massive, easily big enough to accommodate a laptop computer. This is great, but it did force the adoption of a foot-operated parking brake. There simply wasn't enough room left for a proper, between-the-seats handbrake lever, apparently.
COMFORT
While the dynamic picture remains frustratingly incomplete until late this year, the drive program left no lingering doubts about the interior's space, comfort and quality.
With its taller body allowing higher seating, the CX-7 contains ample leg and headroom. Front and rear. And despite the slanting tailgate, the cargo compartment is both deep and long. Trim and upholstery materials and fit are high grade, too.
SAFETY
As we've said above, Mazda Australia has yet to confirm features and equipment levels for CX-7, but even on the entry level model likely standard equipment is six airbags, anti-lock brakes, traction control and ESP.
MECHANICAL
Naturally, as it joins the suspensions from two different Mazda model families, the centre section of the CX-7's floor is unique. So, too, is its assisted rack and pinion steering.
CX-7 also marks the first use by Mazda of a new six-speed automatic from Japanese transmission specialist, Aisin. This transmission will be the only one offered in the CX-7 when it reaches Australia around November this year.
Europe, which will receive the CX-7 later, will initially have only the same six-speed manual as the 6 MPS. It's possible, but not certain, that this option eventually could be made available here.
While the CX-7's version of Mazda's turbocharged 2.3-litre inline twin-cam four with in-cylinder direct fuel-injection is less powerful than the 6 MPS's similar engine, it still delivers around 180kW. This is a V6-like number.
Reasons for the reduction are a different turbocharger, changes to the engine management system associated with the CX-7's automatic transmission, and Mazda's decision that it should run on 95 octane petrol instead of the 98 octane recommended for the 6 MPS.
COMPETITORS
The CX-7 will land in the thick of the strong compact SUV market dominated by Toyota RAV4, Subaru Forester and Nissan X-Trail. But they're not the only solid performers in that market segment, with Hyundai's Tucson, Subaru Outback, Honda CR-V, Mazda's own Tribute (which remains in Mazda's Australian range even after CX-7 gets here), Suzuki Grand Vitara and Mitsubishi Outlander all doing well and selling pretty much in that order.
The wild cards in that pack also will launch during or soon after the fourth quarter of this year. Perhaps the dark horse will be Mitsubishi's new Outlander. The Outlander's already creating waves overseas, and we'll get the 2.4-litre four-cylinder version in October, followed by a 3.0-litre V6 with around 165kW next March. Importantly, the Outlander will be available with five or seven seats.
In terms of bang for your bucks, only Subaru's Outback 3.0R Premium offers a similar 180kW punch, albeit at $53,440. The Outback Premium gets a five-speed automatic. The turbocharged Forester XT Luxury comes close, with 169kW, four-speed auto and a $46,990 pricetag.
ON THE ROAD
Strong, responsive and refined, the CX-7's engine teams very well with the smooth and swift shifting auto. If it wasn't for an exhaust drone at low revs in high gears, the turbo four would be pretty well perfect.
Chassis refinement seems impressive, too. Noise from the tyres on the CX-7's standard 18-inch alloy wheels isn't intrusive, and the suspension is unfailingly quiet. Wind roar is never annoying at legal speeds.
The drive program for the international launch of the CX-7, staged in and around Washington DC, wasn't particularly challenging. Despite the limited time and miles allowed, it was enough to gain a positive initial impression of the CX-7's dynamic ability.
On the none too smooth city streets of the US capital, its low-speed ride seemed rather firm. At high speed, leaving the city behind on interstate freeways, the Mazda was perfectly disciplined and reassuringly stable.
It was on the winding and narrow country roads of Virginia that the CX-7 felt best. It steers with precision, corners with grace. These aren't attributes that other compact SUVs can claim.
There were important questions left unanswered by the drive program. It was an all tarmac route, so the Mazda's gravel road handling remains an unknown. So, too, is the quality of its non-switchable electronic stability system. Both will be the subject of scrutiny when the CX-7 finally reaches Australia, but given Mazda's track record with other recent models you could safely bet on excellence.
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Zoom49
05-11-2006, 08:53 AM
Two more, Autoweek May 15 and Automobile June 06. All and all still positive reviews
Renepogel
05-22-2006, 07:48 PM
My apologies if this has been posted previously.
http://www.roadfly.com/content/road_tests/mazda_cx-7.html
Renepogel
05-22-2006, 11:44 PM
http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid=%7B596337F9-6463-4876-A703-AB6EDC956F34%7D&siteid=netscape
Renepogel
05-22-2006, 11:46 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/19/AR2006051900830.html
http://trucks.about.com/od/2007suvs/ss/mazda_cx7.htm
Renepogel
05-25-2006, 04:00 AM
It's interesting to note that this roadtest predicts the CX-7 will reach 60 mph in 6.8 secs - most likely to do with the fact that the car they will be receiving in April 2007 will come with a six speed manual transmission.
http://motoring.independent.co.uk/road_tests/article570621.ece
Renepogel
05-28-2006, 10:57 PM
http://car-reviews.automobile.com/Mazda/review/2007-mazda-cx-7-preview/1894/
TheCXKid
05-31-2006, 10:59 AM
It's interesting to note that this roadtest predicts the CX-7 will reach 60 mph in 6.8 secs - most likely to do with the fact that the car they will be receiving in April 2007 will come with a six speed manual transmission.
http://motoring.independent.co.uk/road_tests/article570621.ece
The UK version will also output 260bhp.
080669
06-15-2006, 10:12 AM
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/11148/road-test-review-2007-mazda-cx-7-awd-sport.html
cruzdreamer
06-20-2006, 04:51 PM
Hi! I just had to post after driving the CX7 today. Ok....this car is faster than my RX 8! It was a blast to drive and with the turbo engine it just took off like a bullet....the steering wheel tended to fly out of my hands because I was trying to get a handle on all that power. The car's interior is really sharp and unique. I drove the sport with the moonroof package....listed around $27,000 and some change. I am in the market for a vehicle with more cargo and I was considering the Mazda5, but man, I can't stop thinking about the CX7! It's more than I wanted to spend and not as fuel efficient. So, it all depends on my husband....he shall decide. The 5 which I drove again after the CX7 today really impressed me also. Smooth, quiet, peppy and plenty of cargo space! I'd add leather and tinted windows and possibly the navigation. All this will cost me $24,100, retail that is!! I hope to pay invoice. $1000-$1200 less. So price is great on the 5. Anyone in the market for a vehicle like the CX7 should drive it....they will not be disappointed. The grey was rather boring but electric blue or white looks nice. And they think the competition is the Honda CRV or Toyota RAV....No comparison!!!!!! A cool vehicle that is fast with great handling, style and cargo!!!! Thanks for listening....Wendy(first)
spinz
06-29-2006, 01:15 AM
. And they think the competition is the Honda CRV or Toyota RAV....No comparison!!!!!!
I like to see it compare with the Acura RDX that has similar features like it's turbocharge engine and AWD.
Zoom49
07-07-2006, 02:35 AM
Positive with qualifications. For me I like the ride, roads are mostly good here is So Cal. Our mileage is still close to the epa ratings, with a low of 17.4 and a high of 24.2 in our GT FWD.
Renepogel
07-08-2006, 04:30 AM
Positive with qualifications. For me I like the ride, roads are mostly good here is So Cal. Our mileage is still close to the epa ratings, with a low of 17.4 and a high of 24.2 in our GT FWD.
Thanks Zoom,
As I live in Australia and the CX-7 won't be on sale here until November, it will be interesting to see whether Mazda will have addressed some of the 'issues' that this forum has raised.
Thanks again Zoom and to everybody who has contributed to this forum - it gives me a very good idea of what to expect.
dmitrik4
07-12-2006, 08:22 PM
most likely to do with the fact that the car they will be receiving in April 2007 will come with a six speed manual transmission.
that's SO not fair. with a manual, it would be close to perfect.
cx-7heaven
07-20-2006, 05:44 PM
I like to see it compare with the Acura RDX that has similar features like it's turbocharge engine and AWD.
Hmmm...... Ya think the RDX will be had for 24k????? Not quite
stangmatt66
08-07-2006, 12:45 PM
Hey all, I thought I would include my CX-7 review as an auto RX-8 owner...
On the Road
Yesterday I test drove a CX-7 Sport AWD with no options (the only CX-7 on the dealer’s lot with gas in it!), Galaxy Grey and black cloth interior.
I have to say that the CX-7 drives extremely well. It was odd to feel hydraulic steering again after 3 years in the electrically assisted RX-8. The steering had a nice, sporty weight and nice off-center feel. The initial throttle tip-in was a little abrupt as everything was nice and smooth until the fierce little turbo kicked in and launched me forward much faster than I wanted. I'm sure this just takes some driver adjustment coming from the torque-less automatic RX-8.
I took a quick freeway jog (about 3 miles) and was surprised that the CX-7 was nice and quiet inside. Freeway passing speed was impressive. I loved that I could nudge the throttle just barely to kick up some more boost to pass without forcing a downshift. In comparison, the automatic RX-8 requires a downshift for everything. I made a few quick lane changes and fast sweeping turns and was very pleased that there was very little body lean. The same goes for barely any dive or squat while braking and accelerating. And while braking is class leading, it still can't compare to the RX-8--caused by the CX-7's weight penalty over the RX-8.
Overall, the CX-7 felt much faster and peppier to drive around town and on the freeway compared to the auto RX-8. All that torque really makes the difference. It drives more like a sporty wagon than an SUV.
Behind the Wheel
The interior in the Sport model was just not up to Mazda standards. The seat fabric was acceptable, however the dash plastics, while painted to look soft, are indeed hard; same with the all plastic steering wheel and shifter knob—no leather or faux leather wrap here. The audio controls on the wheel were a nice surprise for the base model.
The Sport model lacks any metallic or piano black trim or dash accents to soften the extreme and cheap looking blackness. The gauges, without the Grand Touring model's backlighting, were very hard to see in the daylight. Same goes for the radio display high in the dash which washes out very easily in direct sunlight. The auto up-down driver’s and front passenger’s windows are a much appreciated feature.
Verdict
The CX-7 is perfect RX-8 inspired CUV. However, skip the Sport model. Its lack of interior pizzazz makes the well designed interior feel cheap.
cruzdreamer
08-07-2006, 06:54 PM
Hey all, I thought I would include my CX-7 review as an auto RX-8 owner...
On the Road
Yesterday I test drove a CX-7 Sport AWD with no options (the only CX-7 on the dealer’s lot with gas in it!), Galaxy Grey and black cloth interior.
I have to say that the CX-7 drives extremely well. It was odd to feel hydraulic steering again after 3 years in the electrically assisted RX-8. The steering had a nice, sporty weight and nice off-center feel. The initial throttle tip-in was a little abrupt as everything was nice and smooth until the fierce little turbo kicked in and launched me forward much faster than I wanted. I'm sure this just takes some driver adjustment coming from the torque-less automatic RX-8.
I took a quick freeway jog (about 3 miles) and was surprised that the CX-7 was nice and quiet inside. Freeway passing speed was impressive. I loved that I could nudge the throttle just barely to kick up some more boost to pass without forcing a downshift. In comparison, the automatic RX-8 requires a downshift for everything. I made a few quick lane changes and fast sweeping turns and was very pleased that there was very little body lean. The same goes for barely any dive or squat while braking and accelerating. And while braking is class leading, it still can't compare to the RX-8--caused by the CX-7's weight penalty over the RX-8.
Overall, the CX-7 felt much faster and peppier to drive around town and on the freeway compared to the auto RX-8. All that torque really makes the difference. It drives more like a sporty wagon than an SUV.
Behind the Wheel
The interior in the Sport model was just not up to Mazda standards. The seat fabric was acceptable, however the dash plastics, while painted to look soft, are indeed hard; same with the all plastic steering wheel and shifter knob—no leather or faux leather wrap here. The audio controls on the wheel were a nice surprise for the base model.
The Sport model lacks any metallic or piano black trim or dash accents to soften the extreme and cheap looking blackness. The gauges, without the Grand Touring model's backlighting, were very hard to see in the daylight. Same goes for the radio display high in the dash which washes out very easily in direct sunlight. The auto up-down driver’s and front passenger’s windows are a much appreciated feature.
Verdict
The CX-7 is perfect RX-8 inspired CUV. However, skip the Sport model. Its lack of interior pizzazz makes the well designed interior feel cheap.
I also have an automatic RX 8 and I agree with you on all accounts though I felt the braking was as superb as in the 8. I felt the CX7 was much more impressive to drive than the 8 and I am happy because I need the cargo and this will be a nice transition from the 8. Yes, the sport model without the brushed chrome accents is not as nice but for the money it's still a vehicle to me that is way worth it! Maybe one could add some aftermaket trim of their own. Handling was superb with almost no body roll! Much quicker off the line than the 8. Don't get me wrong the 8 is great but the CX7 I felt was more fun! The 8 has the best styling of most cars I have seen and the CX7 has great styling also though I don't like all the black plastic in the front. Needs some chrome accents. A great vehicle, great value, great utility and great fun! CX7 is sport car inspired!! Thanks Mazda! Now if it only got like 22mpg it would be almost perfect!
Renepogel
08-08-2006, 07:32 PM
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/video/roadtests.shtml
Zoom49
08-26-2006, 01:19 PM
As the 1st CX-7 owner on this forum I still love our car (dont shoot the messenger)(peep)
Zoom49
08-26-2006, 01:25 PM
As the 1st CX-7 owner on this forum I still love our car (dont shoot the messenger)(peep)
Dont know what they are refering when they said, "CX-7 seemed less consistent in throttling up and down than in the last CX-7 we ran"
Yes RAV4 is much faster but drives like a slug "IMO" compaired to the CX-7
syadasti
08-26-2006, 03:06 PM
As the 1st CX-7 owner on this forum I still love our car (dont shoot the messenger)(peep)
Unreadable - Too small. Scan it again (poke)
Zoom49
08-26-2006, 11:37 PM
Unreadable - Too small. Scan it again (poke)
Sorry my bad(spank)
syadasti
08-27-2006, 12:35 AM
Sorry my bad(spank)
Thanks. I want to see the Mitsubishi Outlander (RAV4 Slayer in Japan) and Ford Edge (CX7's Cousin) tested too (rtfm)
singlemalt_18
08-27-2006, 09:29 AM
As the 1st CX-7 owner on this forum I still love our car (dont shoot the messenger)(peep)
Thanks for posting... Yes, I am a proud and happy CX-7 owner, and I have not driven the RDX or the RAV, but I get the impression that Mazda & their new CX-7 is simply "persona non-grata" at this meeting. Some of the author's comments seem to be strenuously biased... both against the CX-7 and in "rooting" for the others. Anytime opinion is introduced, its seems that "something is just not right" or "it simply fell short". Or is it just me? Did the article fail to mention that the Mazda is DISI?
IMHO the stats, the style, the performance, AND THE PRICE, could put the CX-7 at the top of the Consumer Reports list. It appears the RDX's braking numbers are not even in class - what good is a vehicle that can go faster if you can't stop it?
Does anyone ever test these things with the weight of 4 adults & full cargo? I would bet that the CX-7, with its longer & wider wheelbase, and its low-end friendly turbo, would maintain its specs more than the others - just a guess.
Good read though - again thanks!
stangmatt66
08-29-2006, 03:28 PM
Here guys, I assembled the MotorTrend Comparison (CX-7 vs. Rav4 vs. RDX) into a PDF.
Right click and save as (6.58MB) (http://www.imaclounge.com/stuff/CX-7 Comparison.pdf)
Mazda3
08-29-2006, 05:50 PM
Here guys, I assembled the MotorTrend Comparison (CX-7 vs. Rav4 vs. RDX) into a PDF.
Right click and save as (6.58MB) (http://www.imaclounge.com/stuff/CX-7 Comparison.pdf)
Another fine review by Hondatrend magazine. :rolleyes:
spike blue
08-29-2006, 10:13 PM
Thanks for posting... Yes, I am a proud and happy CX-7 owner, and I have not driven the RDX or the RAV, but I get the impression that Mazda & their new CX-7 is simply "persona non-grata" at this meeting. Some of the author's comments seem to be strenuously biased... both against the CX-7 and in "rooting" for the others. Anytime opinion is introduced, its seems that "something is just not right" or "it simply fell short". Or is it just me? Did the article fail to mention that the Mazda is DISI?
IMHO the stats, the style, the performance, AND THE PRICE, could put the CX-7 at the top of the Consumer Reports list. It appears the RDX's braking numbers are not even in class - what good is a vehicle that can go faster if you can't stop it?
Does anyone ever test these things with the weight of 4 adults & full cargo? I would bet that the CX-7, with its longer & wider wheelbase, and its low-end friendly turbo, would maintain its specs more than the others - just a guess.
Good read though - again thanks!
im totally agree with you!!! Did you notice that motortrend always make honda/acura the cars of the year
example: 2006 civic the ms3 will kill it all the way
honda rigdeline
acura rdx etc.........
Mazda3
08-30-2006, 12:36 PM
im totally agree with you!!! Did you notice that motortrend always make honda/acura the cars of the year
example: 2006 civic the ms3 will kill it all the way
honda rigdeline
acura rdx etc.........
Welcome to the world of Hondatrend magazine. Funny how the CX-7 they last tested ran .84g's on the skidpad, stopped from 60 mph in 115', and did 0-60 in 7.9sec.
I'm trying to figure out how the Honda RDX weighs the same, has 4 less HP, makes the same torque but 2000 RPM higher and has a an inferior transmission is a 1/2 sec faster? Doesn't add up for me.
I'm also convinced that the RAV4's that Toyota are giving to the journalist are ringers. I believe it's a touch quicker than the CX-7, but there's no way it does 0-60 in 6.3sec.
spike blue
08-31-2006, 10:21 AM
Welcome to the world of Hondatrend magazine. Funny how the CX-7 they last tested ran .84g's on the skidpad, stopped from 60 mph in 115', and did 0-60 in 7.9sec.
I'm trying to figure out how the Honda RDX weighs the same, has 4 less HP, makes the same torque but 2000 RPM higher and has a an inferior transmission is a 1/2 sec faster? Doesn't add up for me.
I'm also convinced that the RAV4's that Toyota are giving to the journalist are ringers. I believe it's a touch quicker than the CX-7, but there's no way it does 0-60 in 6.3sec.
i know that thats is totally:bs: !!!
raylau63
08-31-2006, 12:25 PM
Another favourable video review here: http://www.motoringtv.com/testdrive/
The reviewers last comment is interesting: CX-7 is not an SUV but a great stationwagon replcement! Well I guess it is a Crossover. (first)
Renepogel
09-05-2006, 09:07 PM
OK I know this is not a CX-7, and this is a CX-7 review thread, however I thought there may be some people on this forum that may enjoy the article - my apologies if this is not the case.
http://car-reviews.automobile.com/Mazda/review/2007-mazda-cx-9-preview/2069/
singlemalt_18
09-10-2006, 07:32 PM
The October Smart Money has their annual car review. Although they don't include new models in their rankings, they make some fairly bold comments:
"Our Take; Despite the look, speed isn't the CX-7's forte. Its engine feels peppy off the line, but it doesn't post the fastest 0 - 60 time around. Where it does shine is in handling; cornering is especially agile. But the Cx-7 come quite close to the Infinity FX in the "thrill-to-drive" department - and at a much lower sticker price."
They are setting a high bar comparing it to the FX! Overall, its quite a compliment... but everybody seems to bet hung up on this 0 - 60 thing...
stangmatt66
10-09-2006, 02:50 PM
Here's the beginning of a series of reviews from automotive blog Jalopnik.com:
http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/jalopnik-reviews/jalopnik-reviews-2007-mazda-cx7-grand-touring-awd-part-1-206226.php
cruzdreamer
10-09-2006, 04:07 PM
I don't like that review...and it's just one more opinion I guess. They seem to not like the design at all and for the price this car rocks!
cx7myfirstmazda
10-24-2006, 06:16 PM
I agree with cruzdreamer this guy doesn't like crossovers to begin with
singlemalt_18
10-26-2006, 08:17 AM
Submitted for your disbelief.
I just pulled this off of the CR website. I get the impression they quickly parroted alot of the mainstream commentary, and DID NOT spend much time actually driving the CX-7. I've got almost 4,000 miles on mine by now, and I'm beginning to think that some of this engine & powertrain stuff has simply become folklore within the auto opinion world.
"Initial impressions: The Mazda CX-7 may have a sporty character and contemporary styling, but it failed to impress us overall. (shocked) We do like the handling and distinct exterior design, but the power delivery, road noise, and interior packaging are critical weaknesses.
The sole powertrain offering is a 244-hp four-cylinder rather than a smooth V6, as in competing models. The unusual choice of a small-displacement, turbo engine in a midsized SUV results in unpleasant lulls and surges in the power delivery. The engine wakes up slowly from idling at a standstill, with a long second or two of turbo lag before the power kicks in under throttle. When merging onto a highway or accelerating from a rolling stop, the driver experiences a disconcerting pause, after which the acceleration comes on abruptly--often too strong for the desired response. Once underway, midrange performance is ample, but there is no escaping the four-cylinder's raspy nature. This direct-injection engine requires premium fuel, adding to the operating cost. The only transmission is a smooth-shifting six-speed automatic.
The CX-7 corners with restrained body roll, and the well-weighted steering transmits welcome feedback. Overall, the CX-7 feels agile and responsive, though it suffers from a stiff ride. Electronic stability control and side-curtain air bags are standard.
The cleanly designed interior is well put together, though some dash and door trim materials feel cheap. The front seats are reasonably comfortable. Commonly used radio controls are oriented toward the passenger side, making them a far reach for the driver. We were disappointed at the lack of a telescoping steering wheel and on-board trip computer at this price. Consistent with the attempt to instill a sporty character, the gauges are located deep within individual tubes. A high window line and low rear seat can make backseat passengers feel claustrophobic.
The CX-7 is a distinctive SUV that stands out in a crowded market. Its styling, agility, and performance potential have appeal, but the engine's real-world power delivery is its Achilles' heel. (omg) The delayed throttle response and raspy sounds are simply out of place in a midsized family vehicle, sporty or otherwise.
We'll see how the CX-7 stacks up against competitors such as the Acura RDX when our full road-test report appears in the January 2007 issue of Consumer Reports magazine and on ConsumerReports.org in December."
G-Papi
10-26-2006, 08:54 AM
Seems like he was hoping for a 1979 Buick.
Platonium
10-26-2006, 04:16 PM
Consumer Reports ALWAYS dissapoints. I have never owned a vehicle that was recommoended by CR. Look at the 2006 Ford Taurus. I'm not bashing Ford, but it is by all metrics an uncompetitve vehicle in its class. CR rates it recommend, while the VW Passat is not. To each their own, but I'd rather have a half of the VW than a whole Taurus, any day. if you are an enthsiast by any measure, CR is about the worst publication.
That being said, I have to admit minor dissapointment in the low end torque of my CX-7. I took it for a 250 mile round trip yesterday. If I am gently leaving a stoplight, I am unbothered, but if I need to GO!! I do feel a lag. I didn't feel one before, and wrote that I felt turbo lag was non-existent in another thread. I am reversing my opinion. At one point, making a left against traffic I was scared I ma ynot make it. The throttle response and or gear selection and thus instant performance wasn't there like I expected.
Mid range power for passing and climbing hills is great. Very reassuring passing a slow-poke on two-laners inhabited by lots of semis. I guess I am used to the Hemi 300C for off the line gratification and need to adjust my driving style thusly.
I also feel the seat backs are a bit too narow and lack support where I need it most. It's overall not quite as comfy on the open road as I had hoped.
However, the driving position and view out are very good. the Bose stereo kept the wind and road noise at bay and I got 20 mpg on an engine with less than 1K on it in mixed driving. Pretty damn good, i would say.
Going on another 250 mile round tripper this weekend. Maybe I'll have yet another opinion by Monday!
Is there anything to do to reduce the turbo lag ? Does a CAI or something else could work.
Platonium
10-27-2006, 06:09 PM
CAI's work well with turbo engines, but in this case, I think it's programming. Keep in mind that some CAIs will lean the mixture causing a delay in turbo response until enough fuel can be put into the pipe. This may be a non-issue with a DISI engine. I don't know.
Also, while they promise a lot, they seem to only deliver a little on the dyno, are louder (induction air is not silenced), and may push the max horse and torque figures up farther in the rev band.
I don't know enough about these engines to say for sure either way.
G-Papi
10-27-2006, 10:41 PM
Is there anything to do to reduce the turbo lag ? Does a CAI or something else could work.
Turbo lag, such as it is in the CX, may have an unintended positive side effect - at least for the AWD models.
Remember that we're talking about a variable on-demand AWD with TCS. That's a lot of computer chips humming to put the right power to the right wheel at the right time. A tire-scorching start could prove disasterous if it were possible. This could also be a subtle reason for the six speed sport auto being the only option in North America. Just to make a dropped-clutch launch impossible.
Just a random thought in an otherwise ordered mind.
Platonium
10-31-2006, 08:14 AM
Good point, a lot of it may be the electronic throttle lagging a little before giving the command. I had another long-ish trip this weekend and didn't notice the phenomenon that I alluded to a few posts ago. Maybe I'm getting used to it. Plus, now that it's got some miles on it, I'm not pussy-fotting around anymore.
xavier
10-31-2006, 08:34 AM
I think the turbo lag is present but can be controlled. I was driving my dad's Jeep Cherokee with the standard 8 cyl and wow...I forgot what off the line torque was. Granted, that comes at a price of about 14-15mpg with conservative driving. In all, I like the cx7 and I can live with the few minor irritations.
EDIT * The wife just called and it seems we have a CEL (check engine light). She said the instrument panel is like a disco with the 'D', the orange tire light, and the CEL. :) Guess its time for that free oil change, free detail, and reflash etc.
cruzdreamer
10-31-2006, 10:54 AM
I don't think there's that much lag to be disappointed. Heck, I am scared to take turns and then picking up speed quickly because I feel like it's too much power and the wheel flies out of my hand!! No lag then it seems!! I have a great deal of confidence trying to pass or get around someone fast......they should have driven my automatic RX 8....it seems that's what they are describing!! The auto's on the 8 have some power issues but man that vehicle handled extremely well. I feel the ride is very smooth and maybe it's because I am used to the RX 8 and more of a sport suspension, but I just love driving the CX 7! Again, just another opinion...I mean this is not a $60,000 plus car and read those forums and they have complaints and issues too!!! I am happy thus far and am prepared for a few glitches and updates...no big deal.....that's what you get when you buy a first model year car! ZOOM,ZOOM to you CR!!!
G-Papi
10-31-2006, 12:03 PM
I believe Consumer Reports may be a little biased. Note how some unspecified radio controls being a "far reach" for the driver completely fails to mention the steering wheel controls for volume, mute, mode, etc.?
In my experience, the turbo lag (which causes the sometimes lethargic launch, followed by rocket-like accelaration) is MUCH worse when the A/C is on. I am not so sure it's just the lag, as my previous vehicle - Mazda6 V6 w/ 6-speed AT - behaved in similar fashion, although the effect is even more with the CX-7. I suspect the electronic throttle is also part of this problem.
I have also had a few instances of pulling into traffic from a dead stop, where I mashed the gas pedal, only to start inching forward for about 1-2 seconds and then rocketing forward. It was pretty scary and unpleasant. All these happened with the A/C on - now I realize the car turns A/C off at WOT but there is obviously a time delay before that can happen, too. With the A/C turned off, I have absolutely no complaints.
I'm gonna see if there might be a PCM update to help alleviate this problem during my next visit to the dealer - I have a few issues to address as well (Remote start doesn't work and I have clunk coming from the front in certain situations, namely when accelerating after coasting and also when making a sharp turn at low speed).
As for some of the reviews - this is not a car for everybody, obviously, but some of the comments just make me scratch my head.
One issue I do have is I find the leather seats in my GT uncomfortable - namely the seat bottoms. I'm no fatass (6', 180 lbs) but after driving for ~30 minutes, I swear I can feel the seat frame. Since no one else seems to be complaining, it's either a case of a bad seat cushion or oversensitive hiney. Hmmm...
yousif
11-01-2006, 11:44 PM
I don't really understand the turbo lag concept? Could anyone help me with that.. Thank You
-yousif
Platonium
11-02-2006, 08:19 AM
Turbos give power by spinning outside (cold) air into the induction system at higher volume and pressure than would othewise be possible from the engine. It is a turbine blade that operates in a ceramic/metallic case. The impeller, as the blade is called, spins at high rpms (up to 100,000 and more) from the force of exhaust gasses blown over it before they exit to the emissions control system. The increased volume of air provided by the turbo mixes with an increased volume of fuel and "force feeds" the cylinders to create more power.
Until the turbo is spinning fast enough to provide sufficient power, or "spooled up", the engine operates as it would without a turbo. The time it takes for you to press the accelerator and get the desired response is turbo lag.
In this car it is short and progressive and hardly a problem. but it is there. Lag pretty impossible to get rid of, shy of very expensive compound turbo setups where one turbo is very small and quick to provide power and one is larger providing power higher in the rev range as the small turbo loses effectiveness. Hope that made sense. it's a tough concept to explain.
This might help explain a lot of things:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo.htm
CXseven
11-02-2006, 11:17 PM
Good review!
spike blue
11-02-2006, 11:30 PM
where did you get the turbo emblem i want one LOL!
cruzdreamer
11-03-2006, 09:40 AM
where did you get the turbo emblem i want one LOL!
Me too...not kidding....where and how much...Thanks!!! Oh and Platonium...good job on explaining the turbo!
xavier
11-05-2006, 08:45 AM
A pretty good review from top gear
http://www.topgear.co.uk/news/2006/05/03/mazda-cx-7/
What if you were able to take the style and character of Mazda’s legendary MX-5 and combine it in a more practical body?
That’s the idea behind the CX-7, an SUV which aims to offer the high driving position of an off-roader with a dose of excitement inherited from its sporty brother. And Auto Express took the wheel of one of the first models off the US production line to see if the newcomer really has the X-factor.
The CX-7 is a stylish 4×4 which shares many cues with Mazda’s other recent models. The wide wheelarches and swept-back headlamps are distinctive, and while it fails to turn heads out on the road, its smooth surfaces look modern. Although the company’s designers acknowledge that their main focus was in creating the sharp looks, the newcomer is also practical.
There’s bags of space in the rear and the boot is a decent size, while the rear seats fold forward with a clever spring-loaded mechanism operated from within the luggage bay. But there’s no seven-seat option - that’s taken care of by the larger US model, the CX-9, although it’s unlikely this will go on sale in the UK.
Only in the front is space at a premium. However, the steeply raked windscreen and big centre console create a sportier atmosphere than the average 4×4, emphasised by the three-spoke steering wheel lifted from the MX-5.
Until the diesel variant arrives in 2008, CX-7 buyers must make dowith the 2.3-litre powerplant from the Mazda 6 MPS. The high-performance saloon’s all-wheel-drive system has also been adopted - minus its limited slip differential - but the engine’s turbocharger has been tuned to develop more torque at low revs.
Our US test car was fitted with a slick-shifting six-speed automatic ‘box, but UK variants will have six-speed manual transmissions. This will allow drivers to make the most of the CX-7’s powerplant, which pulls strongly and offers gutsy acceleration. A coarse engine note is the only disappointment.
Under the skin, the new 4×4 shares much of its front suspension with the Mazda 6, while the rear architecture is made up of a mixture of components borrowed from the 5 and the 3. The result is an SUV which handles with surprising agility. The firm set-up gives a stiff ride, but body roll is well controlled when cornering, while the hy-draulic power-steering provides decent feel. European models will get slightly different settings, but buyers can expect class-leading handling.
Needless to say, this comes at the expense of any mud-plugging ability. The company’s engineers admit the newcomer will cope with rough roads, but nothing more challenging.
So where will the newcomer fit into the UK’s crowded SUV market? In terms of size and likely price, it will be pitched somewhere between Honda’s CR-V and Nissan’s more upmarket Murano. That means buyers can expect to pay around Ł25,000 for entry-level variants. For those looking for a 4×4 with a little extra style, the CX-7 could provide the perfect solution.
G-Papi
11-05-2006, 01:35 PM
Nice review.
Byrnie
12-11-2006, 11:01 AM
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otnielarencibia
01-29-2007, 03:55 PM
Very nice review...
http://drivingtelevision.com/video_reviews.php
search for 2007 mazda you'll see it.
singlemalt_18
04-07-2007, 08:30 PM
Just an FYI...
The may issue of Smart Money that just hit the newstands has chosen the CX-7 for the Smart Money Award of "Best In Class" in the new crossover utility vehicle category. Its not a lengthy expose', but they give it four stars across the board in Ride/Handling, Int/Ext Design, Comfort/Utility, and Overall Rating. In this case it is compared to the Murano, Edge, & Nitro, and wins hands down.
Comments:
"Nimble performance and a sports-car feel; like a station wagon on steroids."
"The CX-7 is the most pleasing all-round package among its competitors."
Smart Money is obviously NOT an auto publication, but they do like to feature products that represent outstanding quality & value for the dollar!
mikey1981
04-07-2007, 11:10 PM
i completely agree. the 7 is def money well spent and represents, what i think, the best OVERALL package of something for everyong and a standard powertrain that blows its competitors away. no other car company offers the performance & value that the 7 has, especially in a base model.
Vision67
05-31-2007, 08:22 PM
They reported 14 mpg:
http://sapnish.autoblog.com/2007/05/28/in-the-autoblog-garage-2007-mazda-cx-7-gt-awd/
varek
06-25-2007, 06:58 PM
http://drivingtv.canada.com/CarReviewVideos.php?epID=408
(yes)
If the page still does not take you to the cuv challenge select episode #408.
Mrs. CaSHMeRe
07-18-2007, 02:17 PM
Thanks for all the reviews! I'm looking into getting a CX-7 :-)
UpNorth
07-19-2007, 12:21 AM
Thanks for all the reviews! I'm looking into getting a CX-7 :-)
Welcome & happy hunting. For most of us, to drive it is to love it.
ljmattox
07-23-2007, 11:16 AM
Conducted in France:
http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/motoring/mazda-cx7-passes-french-test-1041409.html
Items of interest: quoted 260hp, 210kmh top speed (no 117mph limiter apparently, that's 130'ish mph), and 49,995 Euros (ouch...$69,000...grey market CX-7's should head for Europe asap!). Looks like JDM foglight assembly is provided here also.
Just FYI.
AWmustang
07-23-2007, 02:43 PM
IIRC they use a slightly different horsepower rating so it's probably the same as here.
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