HKS SSQV installed on my MS6

[ssinstaller]

The Street Concepts adaptor plate fits perfectly, but that HKS snap ring is a PITA!!.. Even with the snap ring issues, the install only took about 15~20 minutes.

It sounds great, and unlike the Mazdaspeed protege, it looks like there are no problems with running the MS6 with a VTA blow off valve.


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/ssinstaller/P1000749.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/ssinstaller/P1000750.jpg

[Pretzellogic]

It looks like it's hiding.

For future reference, take off the outer housing via the little allen-head bolts surrounding the front of the BOV. After that, the snap ring is MUCH easier to get on and off.

And yes, I had to learn that one the hard way. There was much cursing. It was horrible.

[CSVT]

need soundclips

[Ljspeed]

oh yeah I second the sound clips!

[35ounce]

nice, how is it holding up? did you have to move the maf sensor?

[ssinstaller]

nice, how is it holding up? did you have to move the maf sensor?


Everythings running fine.

didn't do anything with the MAF. I just took off the factory BOV, and bolted the adaptor and HKS BOV in its place.

[the vw guy]

congrats! this is the same bov i'm running and i'm in love with it. and amen on the hks snap ring. damn it's black heart...

[KiNgDaVe MS6GT]

i gotta hear this. im dieng to mod my ms6 and give it a vicious sound

[MS6freek]

WHERE can i get that clip to mount on the blow off????? i need it A.S.A.P
please let me know

[MS6freek]

if someone can get me that clip for the blow off and ship it to me i will pay right away . please let me know
thanks guys

[the vw guy]

if someone can get me that clip for the blow off and ship it to me i will pay right away . please let me know
thanks guys

http://www.935motorsports.com/bovmediaX.htm

you'll find a few here.

[ferdinand]

if someone can get me that clip for the blow off and ship it to me i will pay right away . please let me know
thanks guys
If you are talking about the adapter plate so you can fit the HKS bov, Street Concepts makes them for the MS6 their number is 303-341-2160.

[ferdinand]

For future reference, take off the outer housing via the little allen-head bolts surrounding the front of the BOV. After that, the snap ring is MUCH easier to get on and off.

And yes, I had to learn that one the hard way. There was much cursing. It was horrible.

With your comment and others comments about the snap ring, I knew it was going to be a pita - and I thought I was prepared for a rough install, but if I never see another freaking snap ring again it will still be too soon.

I used the recirc fitting and am running it in recirculation mode (like a bpv). I only became interested in it when I saw folks saying that boost was holding longer before falling past 5500 rpms. I have had the HKS installed for two days and I have to agree that it does seem like boost is holding longer and seems to build quicker. I wonder if the stock bpv is a weak link and was bleeding off boost. Looks like there is an additional benefit to this other than just the sound it makes.

[seanmcsean]

looks pretty sweet!

[warrier04]

nice.

sound come through strong?

any more mods planned for the speed6?

[ssinstaller]

I just finished my first full tank of gas since I installed the HKS SSQV. Running VTA had no effect on my gas mileage. Before the BOV install I was averaging about 19.9 mpg, my first full tank with the BOV installed was 20.97 mpg. That is 100% city driving for both tanks, and I think I drove the car harder after the BOV install.

[JDM Sam]

Yea, good choice for a valve. I have clips around here when the msp came out. Lemme see if I can dig it up.

Here's the original on stock pipes.
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showpost.php?p=609071&postcount=1
Here's the last one I made.
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showpost.php?p=710165&postcount=1

[Killer]

Love that sound...pfffffft!

[KiNgDaVe MS6GT]

Ok im 90% decided to get this BOV. They only thing that bothers me is what is a PITA about the snap ring?? Do I gotta be like a professional mechanic to do this?? And what is all the parts I would need to start ordering them. thanks

[JDM Sam]

get a good pair snap ring pliers from blue point before you get this

[ssinstaller]

You can get all the parts you need for the install here (https://secure38.easycgi.com/sc-power/store/department_.asp?ID=151&dept=160).

The snap ring does suck to install, but you just need a good snap ring pliers and some patience, and it'll go in.

[MS6 Alan]

I ran my MS6 for a day VTA with the stock bypass valve.
The car ran very rich, had a few backfires as well, I could almost smell my cat going out from all that unburnt fuel!

But all is fine with that HKS? I read on another board that milage went to shit when VTA.

[MS6freek]

(first) i installed mine last week, it is amazing.
nice sound .

[ssinstaller]

I ran my MS6 for a day VTA with the stock bypass valve.
The car ran very rich, had a few backfires as well, I could almost smell my cat going out from all that unburnt fuel!

But all is fine with that HKS? I read on another board that milage went to shit when VTA.


I've been running vta for awhile now. My mileage is exactly the same if not a little better.

[Jeph]

Where is the MAF located on the MS6? Cause i am trying to understand why VTA wouldn't affect anything.

[KiNgDaVe MS6GT]

newbie question>>>> Whats VTA??

[Jeph]

Vent To Atmosphere

[KiNgDaVe MS6GT]

?

[Jeph]

Sigh... With an aftermarket blow off valve, most allow you to Vent To Atmosphere, or recirculate the flow coming from the valve back into the intake. Vent To Atmosphere means just how it sounds. The excess intake gases that get vented when you shift, or let off the throttle get vented into the atmosphere (your engine bay)

[KiNgDaVe MS6GT]

ooh ok, thanks

[PerfectXtreme]

With your comment and others comments about the snap ring, I knew it was going to be a pita - and I thought I was prepared for a rough install, but if I never see another freaking snap ring again it will still be too soon.

I used the recirc fitting and am running it in recirculation mode (like a bpv). I only became interested in it when I saw folks saying that boost was holding longer before falling past 5500 rpms. I have had the HKS installed for two days and I have to agree that it does seem like boost is holding longer and seems to build quicker. I wonder if the stock bpv is a weak link and was bleeding off boost. Looks like there is an additional benefit to this other than just the sound it makes.

Whats with "recirculataion" I've talked with shop.. after...shop.. after shop... and they all say the same thing... no matter how you connect the BOV... it still provides the same performance... the larger the BOV.. the faster it can release pressure... But whats the "difference" between VTA.. and recirc?

Will VTA cause engine lights, or will the ECU detect a change and run rich... or different?

[ssinstaller]

Whats with "recirculataion" I've talked with shop.. after...shop.. after shop... and they all say the same thing... no matter how you connect the BOV... it still provides the same performance... the larger the BOV.. the faster it can release pressure... But whats the "difference" between VTA.. and recirc?

Will VTA cause engine lights, or will the ECU detect a change and run rich... or different?

When air enters the intake it passes through the MAF through the turbo through the intercooler then into the throttlebody. The BOV is right before the throttlebody and when it releases the air is vented back into the intake after the MAF sensor, but before the turbo. That way no metered air is removed from the system, and the ECU is happy.

When the BOV is set up to VTA the air is just vented out into the engine bay--because the vented air has already been metered the engine will run slightly rich after the valve releases because that air never reaches the engine. On some motors it can cause check engine lights and stalling and alot of other weird problems. On the MS6 it doesn't really have any negative effect on the engine or gas mileage. I have been running VTA for a couple of weeks with no issues other than the occasional popping in the exaust.


Neither way provides "better" performance. But VTA sounds alot cooler.

[PerfectXtreme]

Thanks for the reply... Once I find and order a BOV... I've found a greddy.. and HKS i have to decide between.... I'll be able to run it both VTA and recirc... see which i like more.. or which causes less problems...

36,000 dollar stock car... i don't want any rice.... at all in this thing... that includes popping... backfiring... annoying loud POS exhaust... ya'll know what i'm talking about...

I'd rather have NO BoV sound.. than a sputtering BOV.. or car that pops and backfires own the street every so often..

[KiNgDaVe MS6GT]

damn u paid 36K?!? u got ripped

[PerfectXtreme]

damn u paid 36K?!? u got ripped

Sticker price on Speed6 is 36,000 something...

I paid 34,000... with 10 / 100 warranty upgrade... and 5 years oilchange thing...

If 34,000 for all that is a rip-off i'd love to see where you can get better... So I can go complain...

[VinnieBeachbum]

Hey I want to hear both the greddy and the HKS on the speed 6 anyone have soundclips from their own cars?

[KiNgDaVe MS6GT]

ohh ok u got nav 2. i just got 4 year plan. no oilchange. i paid 30,500

[KiNgDaVe MS6GT]

Hey I want to hear both the greddy and the HKS on the speed 6 anyone have soundclips from their own cars?


good luck tryin to mod a car in VA beach. So many gay rules. I lived there for 4 years and hated every second of it

[VinnieBeachbum]

haha damn so bitter. 4 years? so you must have been in the navy. Yah they have shit like no swearing in public no drinking in public that kinda crap even if you are on your own lawn. I think it is ok out here. I want to go to san diego though for the uberness.

[VinnieBeachbum]

Man the BOV snap ring wooped my butt. Just remember for those of you that have not had the pleasure to put this on. The FLAT side of the snapring goes down.... It drove good for me for 2 days before my blow off valve blew off. hahaha had to drive limp dick all the way home. But when you get that snap ring in there. You can hardly move it around so be sure it is where you want it.

[PerfectXtreme]

That SUCKS... glad to hear it didn't cause any perm damage though.... And yeah... snap ring is horrible....

My advice for everyone.. once you get the ring in the hole... use a screwdriver.. to jam the ring down farther.. compressing the rubber o-ring seal enough so the snap ring will SNAP into place... BOV should be VERY VERY difficult to turn... when installed correctly...

[RallyeRedSi]

Ok im 90% decided to get this BOV. They only thing that bothers me is what is a PITA about the snap ring?? Do I gotta be like a professional mechanic to do this?? And what is all the parts I would need to start ordering them. thanks


yo i got snap ring pliers if you need em

[stussy2870]

Sticker price on Speed6 is 36,000 something...

I paid 34,000... with 10 / 100 warranty upgrade... and 5 years oilchange thing...

If 34,000 for all that is a rip-off i'd love to see where you can get better... So I can go complain...


Whats the dealers name-- Im getting one soon and my dealers are telling me that there is no 10/100 for these...

[KiNgDaVe MS6GT]

yo i got snap ring pliers if you need em

Thanks but i got some, im still undecided i gotta hear it first

[VinnieBeachbum]

Is it OK for me to put my BOV into VTA. Other peeps telling me it is REAL bad for the air/fuel mix and can ruin my engine. I don't feel like finding the post but it is on the 6club forum posted by seoulful. Give me some info please!

[RallyeRedSi]

Thanks but i got some, im still undecided i gotta hear it first

i see, we'll atleast you'll get to hear my car for the time being haha :)

[PerfectXtreme]

Car runs rich to begin with... and running VTA will only change the mixture between shifts when it vents...

I think you'll be plenty happy with Recirc however which will cause no problems for sure. We run aroudn 15 psi... which is a good amount for the HKS...

[TUNGSTENGREYWIDOW]

Sticker price on Speed6 is 36,000 something...

I paid 34,000... with 10 / 100 warranty upgrade... and 5 years oilchange thing...

If 34,000 for all that is a rip-off i'd love to see where you can get better... So I can go complain...

Looks like they got you too. All of the MS6's I have seen hear in Atlanta have been for like 28,7.

[Killer]

suite!

[fellowkillla]

yo ss, will that bov void your warranty if they see it when you get your car service?

[fellowkillla]

BTW just pick UP mine yesterday,and the only wordsTHAT can COME out my mouth is WOW!!

[ssinstaller]

yo ss, will that bov void your warranty if they see it when you get your car service?


My dealer didn't say anything when I brought the car in for an oil change. I even had the blow off valve hooked up VTA at the time.

[fellowkillla]

ss, is the bov the onlything you put on your car?

[ssinstaller]

ss, is the bov the onlything you put on your car?

I've got the HKS BOV, the CP-E intake, the CP-E motormount, an Odessy battery relocated to the trunk in a moroso battery box, and the mufflers removed(CP-E exaust should be here on the 12th). I've also got an innovate wideband O2 guage and controller (just waiting for someone to make a downpipe so I can get the wideband sensor installed correctly).

[AWD6]

i got the SSQV on my MS6 and i LOVE it...it sounds soo crisp and clean, wouldnt get anything else

[jdub260]

Does anybody know anything about this JDM BOV? (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SSQV-HKS-S-TURBO-BOV-BLOW-OFF-VALVE-UNIVERSAL-FITMENT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQitemZ807 4666087QQrdZ1) It is a whole lot cheaper than the actual HKS and it claims to be the same? I want to get good parts but if I can save some money I want that too :)

[Liquid_Ag]

its cheap ebay junk? it seriously looks like its made of plastic. dont put that shit on your car man

[seanmcsean]

yeah, I'd stick with the HKS man. I wouldn't trust that one.

[AWD6]

yea id trust hks not ebay...my friend buys shit off ebay all the time and he is just now thinking that ebay might be a waste of time unless you are buying used name brand stuff...

[ChicagoKid]

Can you please let me know what all I need to install?

1. BOV unit itself ($200.00??)
2. plate
3. Flange --> is this the same as the plate? ($30 - $50??)
4. what else???

Thank you....

[ssinstaller]

Can you please let me know what all I need to install?

1. BOV unit itself ($200.00??)
2. plate
3. Flange --> is this the same as the plate? ($30 - $50??)
4. what else???

Thank you....

You just need to go here (http://www.cp-e.com/2027.html) and buy the kit from CP-E. It's everyhting you need

[AWD6]

you should also get some snap ring pliers if you dont already have them, make it a whole lot easier

[buit9110]

this is my hks ssqv with aem intake, hope you guys like it!

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=main/7/19922274572.jpg&s=f10

video:

http://media.putfile.com/ms6-hks-ssqv-and-intake

[Rawyzf]

Nice video, perfect for those who want to know what the sound will be like!

+Rep...if that still worked ;)

[chowhoundMSP]

hmmm, I thought i could do without one.......but after hearing that, ill have to add the SSQV to the list of things to buy(eventually)

[Rawyzf]

hmmm, I thought i could do without one.......but after hearing that, ill have to add the SSQV to the list of things to buy(eventually)

Exactly my thoughts! Damn it...I was supposed to not spend money modding this car!

[Rawyzf]

I don't know a whole lot about BOV's...can you tell me if that is recirculating? If so, now can I tell from the pic?

Thanks,
Ryan

[chowhoundMSP]

I don't know a whole lot about BOV's...can you tell me if that is recirculating? If so, now can I tell from the pic?

Thanks,
Ryan


Nope, you would see the a hose attached to the side facing the firewall

Watch the vid and you can visibly see the air rushing out.

[ChicagoKid]

this is my hks ssqv with aem intake, hope you guys like it!
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=main/7/19922274572.jpg&s=f10
video:
http://media.putfile.com/ms6-hks-ssqv-and-intake

Is this the best method? Out to atmosphere?

[chowhoundMSP]

most people will tell you no.

VTA releases metered air and causes the fuel mixture to become even richer then it normally is....blah blah blah.

Case in point: If you are worried about having a loud sounding bov and arent worried about performance loss or rich fuel conditions, then run VTA. If you dont need that loud and just want something thats noticable, but have the car run like stock, go recirc.

Choice is up to you and people will tell you both ways, do what suits your needs better.

[buit9110]

Is this the best method? Out to atmosphere?

it depends on what you like, if i run it recic its not going to make your car go any faster, you'll just run a little less rich when you shift.
i need to get my car dynoed again to see how my boost is holding up, many people are saying that it holds till 6200 but i gotta check it myself, ill post pics of the dyno when i get it.

[jcgemt2003]

this is my hks ssqv with aem intake, hope you guys like it!

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=main/7/19922274572.jpg&s=f10

video:

http://media.putfile.com/ms6-hks-ssqv-and-intake
You should be careful....The vaccumm hose that comes out the top or front of the blowoff valve may wear a hole in it. It happened to me. The motor moved so much it just rubbed right threw it. I ended up cuttn back part of the plastic on the intercooler cover. No problems now.

[buit9110]

thanks for the info jcgemt2003! i'll check on that

[speedysix]

is it possible to install the Greddy type-S on the mazdaspeed6 as opposed to the Greddy-RS?...i only noticed the kit for the RS not the type-s...

[ChicagoKid]

is it possible to install the Greddy type-S on the mazdaspeed6 as opposed to the Greddy-RS?...i only noticed the kit for the RS not the type-s...

Not sure if this info (Greddy's site) might help, but here it is...

Greddy's Blow Off Valves are easily adjustable to prevent both premature boost leakage and compressor surge. The spring stiffness adjustment screw and the two different sizes give the GReddy user the option to match vehicles with mild upgrades to heavily tuned engines. The Type RS blow off valve is a 40 mm valve and recommended for applications under 450 horsepower. This is a universal blow-off valve, vehicle-specific kits are available for most Japanese cars.

[speedysix]

Not sure if this info (Greddy's site) might help, but here it is...

Greddy's Blow Off Valves are easily adjustable to prevent both premature boost leakage and compressor surge. The spring stiffness adjustment screw and the two different sizes give the GReddy user the option to match vehicles with mild upgrades to heavily tuned engines. The Type RS blow off valve is a 40 mm valve and recommended for applications under 450 horsepower. This is a universal blow-off valve, vehicle-specific kits are available for most Japanese cars.
so...do you think i can fit the Greddy Type-S BOV on the flange that comes with the RS kit?? Ionno