Sr Motorsports

[boostdprotegelx]

Hey, i was planning on purchasing the sr motorsports cam/cam gear package for my msp motor. I was reading on their site, and the name of them is msp cams. Now, if i buy these, will they add to my motors performance, or are they just stock cams? IF anyone knows please shed some light on this. thanks.

http://www.srmotorsports.com/Mazda_Protege_Performance_Engine_Parts.html


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[nvmsp]

I don't think anyone with a MSP has bought those.

[boostdprotegelx]

I don't think anyone with a MSP has bought those.
hmm..ok. im just trying to figure out if they are different than the msp cams

[Captain KRM P5]

supposedly yes they are different and no i would not put them into an msp engine

[boostdprotegelx]

supposedly yes they are different and no i would not put them into an msp engine
why would you not put them in the msp engine?

[stdntDrvr]

i had these in my p5...holy shit...i loved them.

[boostdprotegelx]

i had these in my p5...holy shit...i loved them.
seriously? how much of a gain? and why do you no longer have them?

[stdntDrvr]

i can't give you #'s because i never dyno'd my car...my set-up at the time was i/h/e (no cats), mp3 ecu, clutch, flywheel, pulley & cams...it was a VERY noticable difference.

i had the idea that i was going to part-out my car.

if you're looking to get them, let me know...i have a set of sr cam gears and eibach valve springs i'll let go at a good price.

[boostdprotegelx]

i can't give you #'s because i never dyno'd my car...my set-up at the time was i/h/e (no cats), mp3 ecu, clutch, flywheel, pulley & cams...it was a VERY noticable difference.

i had the idea that i was going to part-out my car.

if you're looking to get them, let me know...i have a set of sr cam gears and eibach valve springs i'll let go at a good price.

well what kinda good price?
and the valve springs..lets see...so i'd have the cams, cam gears, and valve springs..what else would i need to complete the top end build? and would the valve springs work for the msp motor?

[stdntDrvr]

yes, the valve springs will work...i guess if you wanted new valves/retainers...p&p...3-angle valve job...etc. etc. etc.

the cams/gears/springs would be a good start.

the cam gears are used and the springs are new...to buy them both would cost around 590 + shipping...i'll let them go for 500 shipped.

[stdntDrvr]

...and if i had the $$ and time, i'd buy a spare head to get worked on...that way, you're car won't ever be down and you can take all the time you need to get everything finished.

[boostdprotegelx]

...and if i had the $$ and time, i'd buy a spare head to get worked on...that way, you're car won't ever be down and you can take all the time you need to get everything finished.
well i have an extra LX motor...dont know if it's the same. but i have a beater car.. A 1993 ford taurus w/ 45k on it..

i'll let you know about those things. I dunno if i have that money yet.

[stdntDrvr]

no problem man, let me know...they've been sitting in a box under my computer desk for a while now.

[boostdprotegelx]

no problem man, let me know...they've been sitting in a box under my computer desk for a while now.
do you have pictures of all of that.

[stdntDrvr]

i'll try to post them up this afternoon.

[boostdprotegelx]

i'll try to post them up this afternoon.
right on that works for me. thanks man.

[stdntDrvr]

not a problem!

[stdntDrvr]

just to let you know...it'll be late tonight/early tomorrow...the wife took the camera to work.

[stdntDrvr]

http://www.msprotege.com/members/Topher/cam%20gears%20and%20springs.JPG

[boostdprotegelx]

http://www.msprotege.com/members/Topher/cam%20gears%20and%20springs.JPG
Right on. let me work my...I NEED MONEY magic..and see what i can get. I am definatly interested. thanks.

[boostdprotegelx]

also, the EVS, they look different than those on the website..how old are they?and what was the cost?

[stdntDrvr]

that could be a stock photo...these are new...maybe a few months old...the pics @ corksport could be valve springs for another car.

[stdntDrvr]

they're 213 + shipping new.

[boostdprotegelx]

they're 213 + shipping new.
ok..what? your pictures are the actual ones? I can't even find any on cork sport.

[stdntDrvr]

here's the pic that on corksport's website...it shows a spring-in-spring design..these have "E 25100.01 29/03" on them...i don't know what that means...but here's the pic on corksport's website...you can email them to verify that these are eibachs if you'd like.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/Topher/eibach.jpg

[boostdprotegelx]

here's the pic that on corksport's website...it shows a spring-in-spring design..these have "E 25100.01 29/03" on them...i don't know what that means...but here's the pic on corksport's website...you can email them to verify that these are eibachs if you'd like.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/Topher/eibach.jpg


I believe you. I just..didn't see anything that looked different. How come you never installed these?

the spring-in-spring ones, are badass.(looking at least)

[stdntDrvr]

well, i bought them thinking...i'll get more cams...and this time, i'll do it right...well, i have other things that i need to spend the money on right now...so it'll be a year or so before i'm ready to start modding my car again.

[boostdprotegelx]

well, i bought them thinking...i'll get more cams...and this time, i'll do it right...well, i have other things that i need to spend the money on right now...so it'll be a year or so before i'm ready to start modding my car again.


Ahh i see. Yea I'm to the point now where I'm kinda on the home stretch, ya know? But than again, i have the bills piling up, that i'm taking out, as often as possible.. If only life were easier. heh.and money grew on trees.

[stdntDrvr]

lol...no kidding. i'm kinda at a stopping point on the p5...i only plan on keeping it another year or two...then i'll get something for the wife and start working on the mp3. my goal is to get a blue mp3 and a spicy msp...have a n/a mp3, f/i mp3 and leave the spicy stock for a daily driver.

[boostdprotegelx]

lol...no kidding. i'm kinda at a stopping point on the p5...i only plan on keeping it another year or two...then i'll get something for the wife and start working on the mp3. my goal is to get a blue mp3 and a spicy msp...have a n/a mp3, f/i mp3 and leave the spicy stock for a daily driver.
Yes sir. That sounds like one hell of a plan.

I think my plan is to finish this one, that i have been working on for entirely too long. To get another Protege shell, and put my stock motor in that one, and build that to N/A. Buy this one Integra and have that as a daily driver.Something about VTEC i like.heh. oh well. Thats the plan, lets see how it ACTUALLY WORKS..

btw, w/ the valve springs, do you just install them, and automatically they CAN rev to 15000rpm? I know there would be tuning and what not involved, im just wondering if that is the whole deal with them..Do you know anyone that makes retainers, valves, and the other top end stuf?

[stdntDrvr]

i wouldn't say that about the springs...there are still weak points in the head...like the valves/retainers. these keep you from having valve float since you're going to have harder cams. i know paeco out of birmingham, al offers valves and retainers. of course, the cams are going to move your powerband up...but that's where the cam gears come into play...you can adjust those lower the powerband back down to where you won't have to worry about having your max out-put at such a high rpm.

[boostdprotegelx]

i wouldn't say that about the springs...there are still weak points in the head...like the valves/retainers. these keep you from having valve float since you're going to have harder cams. i know paeco out of birmingham, al offers valves and retainers. of course, the cams are going to move your powerband up...but that's where the cam gears come into play...you can adjust those lower the powerband back down to where you won't have to worry about having your max out-put at such a high rpm.
what kinda cost are the valves and retainers? I dont mind if there is a high power band. I was just looking at the mam crank set..i was thinking about that.it would definatly make my car badass..and a RPM limit of like 10k...thats crazy shit.

[stdntDrvr]

i want to say a full set of valves is around 700 and retainers around 360

[stdntDrvr]

...but they offer different types...hell, they even offer titanium rods @ 1500/each

[boostdprotegelx]

...but they offer different types...hell, they even offer titanium rods @ 1500/each
thats not too bad i guess. i mean.. I'll be buying that crank and block from mam..for w/e the cost. The valves/retainers/springs, what are thier man purpose when upgrading?

I know i sound like a noob..but i just like to know everything the best i can. I'm KINDA new at the whole tuning cars by myself thing.

[stdntDrvr]

same idea as going with forged rods...just helps make the head stronger to support higher rpms...the valve springs are needed regardless, since you're going with cams.

[Mental Addiction]

You can send your stock cams to Crower for a regrind for $200.
We have 4 set's of stock cams. They are $50 for both.

[boostdprotegelx]

You can send your stock cams to Crower for a regrind for $200.
We have 4 set's of stock cams. They are $50 for both.
pfstt. i wish you would have told me that before. how long does it take for them to be ground? I just ordered mine from SR Motorsports...

[boostdprotegelx]

same idea as going with forged rods...just helps make the head stronger to support higher rpms...the valve springs are needed regardless, since you're going with cams.
you are saying that i cant put my cams in w/out upgrading the springs?cuz the cams that i bought were from the jspec msp motor.

[Mental Addiction]

pfstt. i wish you would have told me that before. how long does it take for them to be ground? I just ordered mine from SR Motorsports...

Crower says 2-3 weeks.

[boostdprotegelx]

Crower says 2-3 weeks.
yeah i think i might just keep with these, only because i have to get the car out of my friends garage.

[stdntDrvr]

i don't think the sr cams are the same as the j-spec cams...there was a discussion about this a while back and the conclusion was that the sr cams were actually better than the jspecs.

you can run the cams without upgrading the springs...but you'll probably want someone to shim the springs so you don't get valve float...it's all in how you want to do things...personally, i wouldn't put the cams back in my car without the springs...but that's just me...other people do it all of the time.

[boostdprotegelx]

i don't think the sr cams are the same as the j-spec cams...there was a discussion about this a while back and the conclusion was that the sr cams were actually better than the jspecs.

you can run the cams without upgrading the springs...but you'll probably want someone to shim the springs so you don't get valve float...it's all in how you want to do things...personally, i wouldn't put the cams back in my car without the springs...but that's just me...other people do it all of the time.


this...valve float you are talking about..what is it? And, i would upgrade to the valve springs..i don't have the money right now.

[stdntDrvr]

where the valve "floats" or stays open due to the weak springs

[boostdprotegelx]

where the valve "floats" or stays open due to the weak springs
causing?

[tritonheat1]

where the valve "floats" or stays open due to the weak springs

Just wondering if it's simular to the "VTCS"??

[stdntDrvr]

the valves springs on the average motor are not strong enough to overcome the pressure of the air flowing in, and get them closed quickly enough to avoid smacking the pistons. This is also really bad for other things, but the main catastophic thing would be engine siezure and whackage.

[boostdprotegelx]

the valves springs on the average motor are not strong enough to overcome the pressure of the air flowing in, and get them closed quickly enough to avoid smacking the pistons. This is also really bad for other things, but the main catastophic thing would be engine siezure and whackage.

gotcha..i may want to come up w/ some money than huh?

[Green2000~ES]

hey, you have the web addy to SR?
I'm trying to fnd ways to tune my 2000 ES 1.8 into a sleeper... so far I've been eyeing the intake from ********** and a header from AWR a friend is making my catless exhaust pipe... I was looking at the jspec cams from CS but they only sell the exhaust, the intake is stock/unground??? anyways.. thanks

[stdntDrvr]

www.srmotorsports.com (http://www.srmotorsports.com)

[Green2000~ES]

(doh) LOL thanks

[boostdprotegelx]

hey, you have the web addy to SR?
I'm trying to fnd ways to tune my 2000 ES 1.8 into a sleeper... so far I've been eyeing the intake from ********** and a header from AWR a friend is making my catless exhaust pipe... I was looking at the jspec cams from CS but they only sell the exhaust, the intake is stock/unground??? anyways.. thanks
I ordered the cams from SR. they are direct fit in. no modification. Hopefully it works nicely. I really can't say for gains. because my setup is very different. But, I will get the cam gears and evs...good luck with yours. shit starts getting really expensive.. Like the Vibrant exhaust I'm buying shortly

[steve_protege]

Anyone have any feedback about the cam gears from SR Motorsports? I have a 1.6 and am thinking about coupling the 1.6 liter cam gears with some cams from Corksport. Just wanted to find out if the gears are worth the money.

[boostdprotegelx]

Anyone have any feedback about the cam gears from SR Motorsports? I have a 1.6 and am thinking about coupling the 1.6 liter cam gears with some cams from Corksport. Just wanted to find out if the gears are worth the money.
I have not heard word of these yet. However, if /when I buy and install these, I will definatly let you know.

[steve_protege]

I have not heard word of these yet. However, if /when I buy and install these, I will definatly let you know.

Thank you much. It'll be appreciated. Also will determine whether I too buy the gears from them. Along with the underdrive pulley kit as well....

[stdntDrvr]

i sold mine to mazdaspeedwerx (i THINK that's his sn)

[steve_protege]

i sold mine to mazdaspeedwerx (i THINK that's his sn)

You sold what to him? The cam gears? Why did you sell them? What were your impressions of them?

[LX_StreetGlow]

supposedly yes they are different and no i would not put them into an msp engine

how about into FSDE engine??

peace

[steve_protege]

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I have not heard word of these yet. However, if /when I buy and install these, I will definatly let you know.

[boostdprotegelx]

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cams yes. cam gears, not yet. i was trying to buy some. I'll see what happens though. umm. i'm waiting for the build of my car. it's almost done.