MAZDASPEED3 pics on MazdaUSA.com!!!

[Antoine]

What differences can you spot between the Euro and NA Spec MS3? ;)

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/images/vehicles/upcoming/ms3/veh_upcoming_ms3_1.jpg

Go: http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=upcomingMS3&bhcp=1 (http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=upcomingMS3&bhcp=1)

[Gambino]

nice! I want more pictures other than just the exterior.

[Mounty]

What differences can you spot between the Euro and NA Spec MS3.

1) The raised rear spoiler on the NA spec
2) The rear side-makers appear on the NA spec
3) Lack of rear fog light on the NA spec
4) The badges
5) No "keyhole" (or whatever that is) on the trunk of the NA spec

[fattyboombatty]

Ohhh baby I was iffy on the hatch but the more I look at it the more I love it... I want it.

[Rogue]

does the rear bumper seem longer on the NA-spec? Like on the P5s.

[Option]

LOVE the new spoiler...exactly what the ms3 needed IMO. BUT NO SUNROOF?!! Come on mazda! This was going to be the absolute perfect car for me (for now at least). Oh well...at least I'll have navi. I am interested in the "upgraded materials" and the "mp3 player jack." Is it just me or do the US spec pics appear to have less wheel gap then the Euro/Jap spec? Also, this early mazdausa post is a good sign that we may be seeing it on this side of the Atlantic sooner rather then later.

[jmv]

like the spoiler alot.

[CitizenPro]

Car looks a little better.............and for some reason the NA spec MS3 looks lower than all euro-spec pictures that ive seen. Doesnt look to have that huge gap......

[jmv]

Car looks a little better.............and for some reason the NA spec MS3 looks lower than all euro-spec pictures that ive seen. Doesnt look to have that huge gap......


yeah, to me it looks lower than some of the euro spec pics, and about the same as some of the others. It looks pretty good height wise in this pic though, i hope it stays that way, or maybe even a skootch lower.

[RODSCALIP5]

I want to see the interior. I hope they didn't screw that up.

[altspace]

Don't judge the photos for wheel gap...trust me. Just look at almost all print/tv/multimedia automotive marketing and you will see cars with a more pronounced "lowered" stance. Darkened windows is another.

[Mace Windu]

I'm a bit surprised there is no badge on the side of the car like the 2.3 has.

[chuyler1]

Seriously, where do I sign up.

[RHAGEL]

Seriously, where do I sign up. Ditto. I should keep an eye out at the Mazda NA Headquarters to see if I can catch a glimps of it.

[mazda3zoom]

its sweet, but im not crazy about the hatch only thing. If they made it in the sedan i would buy it the day it came out.

[Mounty]

its sweet, but im not crazy about the hatch only thing. If they made it in the sedan i would buy it the day it came out.

Look on the bright side, the hatch now has a hood without the grille attached to it, so maybe someone here will eventually figure out how to swap the engine and the hood etc.

[InFeXIoN]

they really did alot of things to this car besides interior and exterior. Its a really badass setup, everytime i read and look at it i fuckin want one.

[Kansei]

I wonder how that spoiler looks from the side. The current spoiler on the 3 hatch already doesn't line up properly with the lines and curves of the car, I can envision that spoiler being even worse. Overall I like what they've done, they've made an otherwise unbearable 3 hatchback look dare I say it -- muscular. I think that's why they went with the hatch, the sedan is too sleek. The hatch already had the bulgy fenders and hood.

They fixed it up a lot though, the front end of the normal hatchback scream PT Cruiser to me, it was all about the grille being taller than the headlights. Damnit and I'm going to be in the market for a car soon too :P

[goldwing2000]

Hatin' the spoiler but everything else is cool.

[Gambino]

Hatin' the spoiler but everything else is cool.
I am kinda with you, I dont HATE it, but I do like the normal 3 hatch spoiler better.

[pluto316]

If I was going to get another FF car, that'd be it for sure.

[goldwing2000]

I am kinda with you, I dont HATE it, but I do like the normal 3 hatch spoiler better.

I don't like the normal 3 hatch spoiler, either. Completely useless. I even took mine off.

One thing I can say for the MPS one, it may actually help keep the back window clear.

[Kansei]

it may actually help keep the back window clear.

The MPS one might help keep it clear? It doesn't look too different in design than the P5 one and ugh the P5 rear is always dirty after a mile or so of driving, especially with the salty streets. In the rain I doubt I could get the car out of the garage without covering the back of the car in mud :P

How is the MPS one different than the stock 3 spoiler other than the inclusion of the LED brake light strip like in the P5.

One last question: Is it better or worse going from the 3 spoiler to no spoiler?

[goldwing2000]

How is the MPS one different than the stock 3 spoiler other than the inclusion of the LED brake light strip like in the P5.
Because the stock 3 one doesn't have any space under it. It's like a backwards baseball cap. I figure if there's an air gap, theoretically it could re-direct the air flow across the window and keep it clear. It's all theory, though. I haven't seen a functional spoiler on any FWD car, so there's no reason to think they'll start now.


One last question: Is it better or worse going from the 3 spoiler to no spoiler?

Better or worse, how?
Looks? Better, in my opinion.
Window cleanliness? Better, also. Easier to clean, too.

[Kansei]

I didn't think the MPS one looked like it had an air gap, I guess I didn't look closely enough.

[Gambino]

I didn't think the MPS one looked like it had an air gap, I guess I didn't look closely enough.
definately a gap
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/images/vehicles/upcoming/ms3/veh_upcoming_ms3_1.jpg

[Kansei]

definately a gap
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/images/vehicles/upcoming/ms3/veh_upcoming_ms3_1.jpg

That's the MS3 not the 3 MPS :P

I'm talking about the euro-spec one that the first pics were of. I looked again and it definitely has no gap.

[Gambino]

That's the MS3 not the 3 MPS :P

I'm talking about the euro-spec one that the first pics were of. I looked again and it definitely has no gap.
look at that, you are right.

http://response.jp/issue/2006/0303/article79939_1.images/109649.jpg

[ghettobubba2001]

I don't like the normal 3 hatch spoiler, either. Completely useless. I even took mine off.

One thing I can say for the MPS one, it may actually help keep the back window clear.


no matter what you do all hatch vehicles will be dirty on the back window, everything is sucked behind the car... thats just the way it is.

[thasilver3]

whens this beast coming out?

[Newf]

I actually like the new spoiler. Gives the rear end more character. Still wish they picked better wheels. I wonder if us canucks will get hid's this time around.

[chuyler1]

It doesn't matter what wheels they picked...people will pawn them off on other Mazda owners and upgrade. I bet they'll look nicer on the P5.

(thinks about that for a second)

If it comes to the states in a timely fashion I'll give my P5 to my fiance and trade in her Corolla for MS3. Then I'll put the MS3 rims on the P5 and take my new RX-8 rims and put them on the MS3. That'll look nice.

[Kansei]

It doesn't matter what wheels they picked...people will pawn them off on other Mazda owners and upgrade. I bet they'll look nicer on the P5.

(thinks about that for a second)

If it comes to the states in a timely fashion I'll give my P5 to my fiance and trade in her Corolla for MS3. Then I'll put the MS3 rims on the P5 and take my new RX-8 rims and put them on the MS3. That'll look nice.

Why do all the Mazda wheels look good on the P5? Someone needs to get some MS6 wheels on a P5 already :P

[chuyler1]

Pretty much. I've seen the Mazda3 wheels on a P5 and they look pretty decent.

[tsunami]

but have you seen the p5 wheels on the 3??? (will post pics soon)

[cbc]

Except for that mini whale-tail of a spoiler (ick) SWEETNESS! (thumb)

[bazooka joe]

why did i look at this post...........! my wife will kill me.....just like she did when i brought the protege home almost 5 years ago....hot off th press: at your MS dealer this summer (2007 model)...this one i'm test drivin

[chuyler1]

Heh heh...now you know why I'm scheming to trade in my fiance's Corolla!

[bazooka joe]

this might just be the next bazooka mobile!

[Antoine]

If I buy a new car in the future...There is a damn good chance it will be an MS3!

[orlandomsp]

I see LED tails.

[Rogue]

that is an option on the new 06 models, probably standard on the MS3

[jbiird317]

....hot off th press: at your MS dealer this summer (2007 model)...this one i'm test drivin

can you really verify this?? Cuz I ink the deal on my first new job out of school next week, i may go drop a deposit on one of these if theyre coming out that soon

[cbc]

heck call yo' local dealer verify it yo own Bad Seff!!(bump)

[goldwing2000]

heck call yo' local dealer verify it yo own Bad Seff!!(bump)

(werd)

[Newf]

heck call yo' local dealer verify it yo own Bad Seff!!(bump)

you don't actually think any dealer is going to have any idea about this yet do you?

[cbc]

If they want your business bad enough they will.
They ARE part of Mazda, bazooka joe isn't.(thought)

[Foolish]

I hope it's available in the P5/MP3 Yellow. Perhaps when Dru finishes law school, we'll trade in my sedan on one.

[Rogue]

doubt it will be. seems like all the colors have the mica fleck. I saw a Mz3 Hatch with the MSP yellow today.... it was "ok" at best. The P5/MP3 yellow was so much better.

[romecandleboy]

If I buy a new car in the future...There is a damn good chance it will be an MS3!

I was always curious..what car do you drive ?

The MS3 is smokin' !! I'm pretty close to getting a new MX-5, but this is putting some doubts in my mind.

[bazooka joe]

If they want your business bad enough they will.
They ARE part of Mazda, bazooka joe isn't.(thought)

:(

[jbiird317]

If they want your business bad enough they will.
They ARE part of Mazda, bazooka joe isn't.(thought)

ha ok well the only reason i asked is cuz last month i went to test drive the 3 and rx8 and i asked about when to expect the ms3 and he told me that it would never make it to production, basically laughed at me for asking (btw, i will never go back to his dealer for business now cuz hes clearly a jackass)

[Mazda3]

Great section on the MS3 is now up at Mazda.ca under upcoming models. It just went up a few hours ago. Its the most detailed info available to this point.

[WetsuitxNinja]

I like the wheels looks very VWish. I want the bulgy like a moose hood too. definately beefs it up a bit.

[Antoine]

Great section on the MS3 is now up at Mazda.ca under upcoming models. It just went up a few hours ago. Its the most detailed info available to this point.

Sweet...Can you start a new thread and summarize the main points!?

I would really appreciate it (2thumbs)

[goldwing2000]

Great section on the MS3 is now up at Mazda.ca under upcoming models. It just went up a few hours ago. Its the most detailed info available to this point.

MazdaUSA has a section, too.

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=upcomingMS3


With over 250 horsepower, the MAZDASPEED3 redefines the meaning of speed. Its high-performance MZR 2.3-liter DISI Turbo engine, six-speed transmission, and razor-sharp handling turn it into a beast on the road. And with muscular, flared front fenders, floating fog lamps, aerodynamically powerful edges, and flush black interior it looks wild, too. Red stitching accents the seating, steering wheel, and shift knob for a swift, sporty refinement. And the 18”, 10-spoke aluminum alloy wheels, roof spoiler, and big, boisterous tailpipe keep the style flowing all the way to the rear end. But while other sports cars stop at “sports,” the MAZDASPEED3 features some remarkable assets. An upgraded brake system makes for alert and active safety. And for the tightest handing and responsiveness during hard cornering, Mazda provides the combined power of an enhanced suspension, the smart Mazda Advance Impact-energy Distribution and Absorption System, powerful four-wheel ABS, and a newly developed torque-reduction system with limited slip differential. Well engineered and beautifully designed, Mazda’s nimble MAZDASPEED3 is one of the fastest sports compacts with an FWD layout on the market.

Key Features
External Dimensions
Overall width (mm) 1765
Overall height (mm) 1465
Wheelbase (mm) 2640
Front Tread (mm) 1535
Rear Tread (mm) 1525
Engine Type Inline 4-cylinder, DOHC turbo petrol
Max. power* (hp) more than 250hp
Max. torque* (lb-ft) 280 at 3000 rpm
Transmission 6-speed manual
Suspension and Wheels
Front suspension MacPherson Independent struts
Rear suspension Independent Multi-link
Wheel size 18x7J
Tire size 215/45R18 93Y

jbiird317: I'd say that pretty much confirms that it's coming out. :rolleyes:

[jbiird317]

jbiird317: I'd say that pretty much confirms that it's coming out. :rolleyes:

gotcha, thanks... i never doubted it was coming out, i was just trying to get a good time frame as to when i can get my hands on one

[goldwing2000]

gotcha, thanks... i never doubted it was coming out, i was just trying to get a good time frame as to when i can get my hands on one

Yeah, that was more of a (stfu) for that goofball dealer you talked to.

Anyway, it looks like they're labeling it as a 2007 model so I'd look for a release date some time this fall. Although Mazda Canada says "Set to arrive at Canadian dealerships this summer... " (dunno)

[RHAGEL]

Whats with them putting the specs in metric and using the word "petrol". Where the hell do they think we live?

[Mace Windu]

well , if it's off the canadian site that makes sense.

But seriously why haven't we gotten everything from Mazda yet, what's the hold up on the zoom-zoom?

[SaaBaaDoo]

I think I might just have to break down and buy one of these!!! I'll see if my wife wants the MSP.

[RHAGEL]

well , if it's off the canadian site that makes sense.

But seriously why haven't we gotten everything from Mazda yet, what's the hold up on the zoom-zoom? It was actually off the US site, that is why I was confused.