Can someone estimate my whp

[Jaysanooch]

Based on my mods bellow....I'm running stock boost. Just curious, I realize a dyno test would answer my question but just wondering until I go on the dyno, if anyone might able to give me a ball park figure.

With all my mods, I'm happy to say that the car runs great....almost no heatsoak, more torque and boost is constant. That was my goal really....the way it should of been delievered by Mazda. It feels faster except I think I'm being fooled by the loud exhaust tone now.

[smo0f]

so your only performance mods are smic, hard pipes, exhaust, and intake. still at stock boost i presume? should be around 180-190 whp from what i gathered on this forum. a a bit more maybe

[.mazda.speed.]

almost 200 higher your boost to 8-9 the motor can take it.

[Puckpimp71]

178

[jsahyoun]

Based on reading this forum: 185 at most

[Jaysanooch]

Thanks guys....I figure between 175-185, and if I average out what y'all are guessing...it should be about that. It feels like it anyway. I'll find out for sure real soon...thanks again.

[low_psi]

Yea, 175-185 is a good range.

[vxfilmer1000]

i agree with everyone else between 170 and 180

[orng1]

178
You think he'll get that much, I'd like to be nice but I've seen a few of these cars with similar mods dyno low. I'll say 168.

[Jaysanooch]

You think he'll get that much, I'd like to be nice but I've seen a few of these cars with similar mods dyno low. I'll say 168.

lol...jeez don't tell me that. Who knows...I gotta get it dynoed I guess. It's the damm exhaust that fools me a little....all that noise now making me think I'm going just as fast! Oh well, the price you pay to remove restrictions. It's just the in cabin noise that's annoying past 3500 rpm.....can i do something for this? Some kind of sound proofing?

[orng1]

dynamat works miracles

[Jaysanooch]

Thanks for the info...it might be obvious to put that all over the floor but would putting it just in the trunk area help? or is the source from cat back? Any advice would be great..thanks for your patience.

[MrDiggler]

Thanks for the info...it might be obvious to put that all over the floor but would putting it just in the trunk area help? or is the source from cat back? Any advice would be great..thanks for your patience.

My mods are very similar to yours, and I got 169.1 hp on a Dynojet. You can check out the dyno sheets section as it's posted there. I suspect that this particular Dynojet is reading a bit low, because my baseline stock pull was 143, I think. I was hoping for nearly 200 whp as well, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

BTW, I put my silencer in my Vibrant exhaust, and it did help quite a bit with no loss in power. I don't know if your exhaust has one or not. Also, I've noticed that a lot of my resonance seems to come from the roof. Right when it was booming one night (with the silencer out) I happened to reach up for my map light and noticed that the roof structure was thrumming in time with the exhaust. I dropped the rpms and just as the booming quit, the roof quit vibrating. May be a coincidence, may not.

[03orgspd]

w/ my mods, I got about 198 whp and 258 ft. lbs/torque but most of my power came w/ the unichip bringin out the full potential of my mods. Worked wonders..here's the link to some pics and the chart.

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123622363&highlight=quicky+spicy

[Protege52003]

time to dyno to find out!
-R

[Jaysanooch]

BTW, I put my silencer in my Vibrant exhaust, and it did help quite a bit with no loss in power. I don't know if your exhaust has one or not. Also, I've noticed that a lot of my resonance seems to come from the roof. Right when it was booming one night (with the silencer out) I happened to reach up for my map light and noticed that the roof structure was thrumming in time with the exhaust. I dropped the rpms and just as the booming quit, the roof quit vibrating. May be a coincidence, may not.

I think it makes sense what your saying I'll have to check it out the source of the humming more closely....I'll thought of wearing ear plugs for now(lol).

As far as my whp goes....I'm anxious more than ever to hook up my car now. I wouldn't be surprised by whatever number I end up getting. I'm not expecting miracles either...I just wanted to free up restriction mainly but from what you guys are telling me a unichip might be the answer to getting full potential. I was hoping not screw around with ecu tuning just yet....I have no clue in that department...just want the car to run well.

Even though the car feels and runs great right now, the car could still be running shitty A/F ratio's from what a gather on this forum....so that's a consern for me right
now. Hopefully all is well....if not, can the dyno guy fix A/F ratio's on his machine or do I need to get a unichip first?

Thanks...for your patience guys!

[MrDiggler]

I'm about to get DSM Convert's AFC. I think as far as bang for the buck, it can't be beat. My A/F ratio needs some serious help, and the dyno session illustrated it well.
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123624253

[FastMSP]

It should be around 180whp

[Rawyzf]

Very similar to my mods.

Before the Vibrant I was at 169whp. So I would guess around the 180 mark is about right.

[Blitzd]

260 but thats beacuse of a certain mod. (thumb)

[livelyjay]

Check my signature for my results. I have about the same mods as you, just added the AFC. My guess would be around 180whp, but it all depends on the dyno too because they vary.

Also, Dynamat does not do wonders for the exhaust and cabin noise. How do I know, because I installed a trunk kit and it did next to nothing for sound absorption. Dampening it did a lot, but not absorption. I plan on doing a noise reduction project in the near future. Here's the plan: 1 roll RAAMAudio BXT for sound dampening (this is the same as Dynamat Extreme) and 4 yards of RAAMAudio Ensolite (this is for sound absorption). That with some adhesive spray comes to $210 shipped from RAAMAudio directly. It's a great price and is supposedly good enough for the sound absorption I want. It will cover the doors, wheel wells, rear deck, and the back of the rear seats. If you want to get to extreme levels, add in .5 - 1.0 more rolls and about 4 more yards of Ensolite for the entire trunk and the passenger floor.

[Jaysanooch]

Livelyjay...great info, thanks! I think it's worth it...for the money to. So I should put both insulation product one over each other with adhesive spray under and in between. O.k. and for the doors, I should just make a cut out, stick it on and snap the door panels back on? Kinda obvious but just wondering maybe by sticking it over just the door panels themselves and then snapping them back on?

[livelyjay]

Livelyjay...great info, thanks! I think it's worth it...for the money to. So I should put both insulation product one over each other with adhesive spray under and in between. O.k. and for the doors, I should just make a cut out, stick it on and snap the door panels back on? Kinda obvious but just wondering maybe by sticking it over just the door panels themselves and then snapping them back on?
If you check out the NASIOC forums, there is a great walkthrough that was written by a guy named Rick from RAAMAudio.

1. 1 layer of BXT on the outer door shell, 2 layers behind the speaker, then 1 layer of Ensolite over the top of that
2. Seal off the holes to the outer shell with tin/aluminum and screws (not necessary, but provides extra material for BXT to attach to)
3. 1 layer of BXT on the inner door shell then 1 layer of Ensolite over the top of that
4. Put the door panel back on

[Jaysanooch]

Livelyjay

I emailed Rick and he honestly said that his product would help but that he didn't think it would really help. He said to consider some kind of silencer first then maybe his product. I appreciated his honesty....cause what a bitch of a job that would of been. I'm gonna put it on hold and maybe check other options.

[livelyjay]

Livelyjay

I emailed Rick and he honestly said that his product would help but that he didn't think it would really help. He said to consider some kind of silencer first then maybe his product. I appreciated his honesty....cause what a bitch of a job that would of been. I'm gonna put it on hold and maybe check other options.
Yeah, he's a good guy and I kind of wish I realized they were in Oregon because I could have picked up all the stuff this past weekend while I was there and just carried it onto the plane with me.

I already have a silencer in my exhaust and I'm pretty confident the foam and mat will help quiet it down a bit more. I tried driving with foam ear plugs in and that helped out big time, so I'm guessing the foam and mat will be about 1/4 as effective. Just a guess though.

[jeffmsp]

are you flashed?

[jeffmsp]

your in montreal, the temps will help. My car is noticably faster when the temps are below freezing.

[Jaysanooch]

are you flashed?

Yes I'm flashed and running stock boost. I realize that the sub zero temps do make my car run great....although last night after a couple of hours of joy riding....I took off at the light and was spinning past 5000 so I slap it in 2nd and my car just practically stopped. Like severe turbo lag then the rpm's climb and it's o.k. I tried it again and the same happened...it's only at full throttle. If I go easy on the throttle it's o.k. It just ruined my evening and I don't know why it does this? I'm going down to see Nick to install the mpi and tune and I hope this will fix everything. I'm not looking for crazy horsepower, I just want the car to run perfect at stock boost. Hope this is the answer.

[Jaysanooch]

Just thinking now...when my car has been running a few hours, quick shifting into 2nd gear at full throttle always sucked. I thought at the time that it was "heatsoak" shitty intercooler or something. Since the mods I figured I solved the problem because the car runs amazing. But it always ran amazing even when completely stock from a cold start with a decent amount of warming up first.

What I'm getting at is, most of my crazy driving is within the first 45 minutes and then I usually worry about tickets and stop doing light to light runs. And if i did, 2nd gear sucked...so my problem is still there!

Have any of you experienced this....cause I thought it was just do to the shitty stock intercooler. I've upgraded my smic...so I guess it hasn't helped all that much. Of course, it might be some other issue. I hope the Mpi tuner is my answer to this problem.

[BOOSTR]

Adding the smic probably upped your boost 1 psi and holds it steady throughout the RPM range. At least thats what mine did for me. I bet you are in the 185-195 range based on your mods. Add a boost controller to the mix and 200+ will be no problem. Just don't go crazy with the adjustment.