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Antoine
02-06-2006, 10:35 PM
A rare glimpse inside GM's reverse-engineering facility

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http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/02/new-car-graveyard-resized.jpg (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.02/teardown.html)

With all of the late model automotive carcasses laying about (each painstakingly disemboweled, weighed, measured and cataloged), one could be forgiven for thinking that a wrong turn unwittingly revealed Hannibal Lechter 's garage, or at very least, a freakishly clinical salvage operation. But reverse engineering facilities like the one Wired Magazine was able to glad-hand its way inside are less about socially unacceptable mania, and more about financial satisfaction and keeping up with the corporate Joneses.

In GM's Warren Tech Center, engineers play CSI (Cost Savings Investigators), taking the competition's latest and greatest, and tearing them limb-from-limb, fender-from-fender, and-wire-from wire until even the vehicle’s original designers couldn’t recognize it.

The General (and most other manufacturers) don’t do this out of some perverse superiority streak, though it must be somehow satisfying to literally tear the competition apart. But this isn’t some unconventional employee morale boosting program, GM tears down showroom-fresh cars to not only see what makes them tick, but to see how much those ticks cost. Doing so not only allows a look at what the competition is up to, it gives them more informed ways to pressure their own suppliers for less expensive and/or better engineered parts.

Click on the pic for a fascinating window into a place where few are granted access.

CasopoliS
02-06-2006, 10:41 PM
http://ly.lygo.com/ly/wired/wired/archive/14.02/images/FF_136_teardown1_f.jpg

holy crap they have computer-controlled invincible engineers too!!!!

Brian MP5T
02-06-2006, 10:46 PM
GM Needs all the help it can get..

anarchistchiken
02-06-2006, 10:54 PM
http://ly.lygo.com/ly/wired/wired/archive/14.02/images/FF_136_teardown1_f.jpg

holy crap they have computer-controlled invincible engineers too!!!!


Invisible?

mp3moose
02-06-2006, 10:55 PM
GM Needs all the help it can get..

Seriously, if they fold, who will we make fun of?

Rogue
02-06-2006, 10:56 PM
http://ly.lygo.com/ly/wired/wired/archive/14.02/images/FF_136_teardown1_f.jpg
name that car

Brian MP5T
02-06-2006, 11:24 PM
name that car

SHIZAWAGON!

CasopoliS
02-06-2006, 11:40 PM
first glance a Honda Element
but did not compare to a real car yet.... just first glance

invisible and invincible. You cannot hut what you cannot touch. GM is going all out......

romecandleboy
02-06-2006, 11:46 PM
Don't get me started on 'GM'. Lets just say they should spend more time working on the traditional engineering process before they start reversing it.

Rogue
02-06-2006, 11:56 PM
first glance a Honda Element
but did not compare to a real car yet.... just first glance
i thought so, too, but now I'm not sure

romecandleboy
02-06-2006, 11:59 PM
It's not an Element. The Element doesn't have a door beam in the middle (french doors).

Rogue
02-07-2006, 12:02 AM
not a Scion xA, either... now i'm really stumped

romecandleboy
02-07-2006, 12:09 AM
X-Terra ??

Rogue
02-07-2006, 12:11 AM
are we seriously stumped or are we just going on with this to be funny?

scion xB
i'm seriously stumped. i don't think it's the xterra

DE31
02-07-2006, 12:12 AM
haha sorry i thought it was the xB first but then i realized that the rear d-pillar is different...

Rogue
02-07-2006, 12:13 AM
not the xB either

DE31
02-07-2006, 12:14 AM
ok looking at it you can see where the groove is for what may be the sliding door guide. and for the size i'd say Mazda5?

*edit* nope the rear where the bumper would meet is different.

Rogue
02-07-2006, 12:17 AM
Toyota Sienta
http://www.napolex.co.jp/konbpedalIMAGE/images/16_r4_c3.jpg

DE31
02-07-2006, 12:20 AM
i think your right
http://www.toyota.co.jp/netz/amusement/wallpaper/wp_images/sienta_1024_01.jpg

YellowMP5
02-07-2006, 12:21 AM
not cars related but i thought it was also an interesting article
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.10/kirlin.html

Rogue
02-07-2006, 12:23 AM
i cheated and went to the article. if you click on the picture, the caption explains that ti's the Toyota.

romecandleboy
02-07-2006, 12:25 AM
i cheated and went to the article. if you click on the picture, the caption explains that ti's the Toyota.

I told you it was the Toyota.

Rogue
02-07-2006, 12:27 AM
where? :D

p5power
02-07-2006, 02:05 AM
Don't get me started on 'GM'. Lets just say they should spend more time working on the traditional engineering process before they start reversing it.
lol...(werd)