MS6 wheel specs

[eE jeremy]

I don't take delivery for a couple months, but maybe you guys can help me out. What size wheels are stock 18" x 7"?, what is the lug pattern 5 x ?mm, and last, what is the offset? I'm not diggin the stock wheels...

[ferdinand]

I don't take delivery for a couple months, but maybe you guys can help me out. What size wheels are stock 18" x 7"?, what is the lug pattern 5 x ?mm, and last, what is the offset? I'm not diggin the stock wheels...
18X7 5-114 and offset is 55 (I think). I'm not a big fan of them either. I wish tirerack would hurry up and list available wheels for the car. If someone knows another place that can guarantee fitment on the MS6 please let us know where.

[daedalus]

sounds like fitment is identicle to the MSP except we ran 17" stock. Replacements should follow the same general guidlines, stay high offset (+48mm), i bet you could fit a 7.5 in there, but then again, i would want to wait too until there was a definative answer.

[StuttersC]

Fitment should follow the regular 6. High offset is a must, and depending on tire size you will need to roll the rear fenders.

There is 4.86 inches of ground clearance vs the 5.1 on the regular sedan, so the drop will mean you definitely need to pay attention to the tire size.

18x8's fit, 18x7.5's fit, once again, given the proper offset and tire size.

[eE jeremy]

what is the lug pattern, 5x114mm?

[ferdinand]

what is the lug pattern, 5x114mm?
yes

[jaw307]

it's 5x4.5'' but yeah 5x114.3

[Rumpleforeskin]

I'd much rather size down to a 17" wheel that is 6.5" wide and real lightweight. No need to worry with real wide tires when you've got such a strong awd system

[daedalus]

contact area is contact area.... and as the pntiac expression goes... wider is better.

I would be intrested to know what kind of aeffect running a staggered fit on the MS6 would do. The tuning boys in japan have been using Wider wheels/tires in the front, and smaller in the rear to increase turn in and sterring responsivness, and allowing the rear to rotate faster. I know they made a big hoopla about it in a SCC article on the Blitz EVO about a year ago and how much of a difference it made.

[StuttersC]

I'd much rather size down to a 17" wheel that is 6.5" wide and real lightweight. No need to worry with real wide tires when you've got such a strong awd system

You don't want to go skinnier than stock. That is useless.

You can run a 17x7 or even a 17x8 that is light enough. On a 17x8 you would be able to run different sized tires to get the stagered fitment effect that is mentioned above and still maintain your basic rotational diameter.

[Rainman]

You don't want to go skinnier than stock. That is useless.

You can run a 17x7 or even a 17x8 that is light enough. On a 17x8 you would be able to run different sized tires to get the stagered fitment effect that is mentioned above and still maintain your basic rotational diameter.

So you could also run 18x8 in the front and 18.7 in the rear for the same effect, correct?

R

[StuttersC]

So you could also run 18x8 in the front and 18.7 in the rear for the same effect, correct?

R

Technically, yes. But you would benefit more from running the same sized wheel front and back and simply running a skinnier tire in the rear. If I remember correctly, that is what the SCC article reffered to.

[cheesefarmer]

....i wish i could've used my 17x7.5 enkei rpf1 rims with summer tires at the track this summer to see how the car goes with lightweight rims and tires....but i didn't wanna pony the $$ for winter rims....

[nicka]

The service manager at my dealership says that there was a guy who tried to put 17" on his MSP6, but his wheels actually seized up because some slush/ice/snow got up within the wheel and there was no room for the brake calipers. Anyone hear of this happening to anyone else? Can anyone say for 100% if it is possible to put 17s on that car?

[Rainman]

The service manager at my dealership says that there was a guy who tried to put 17" on his MSP6, but his wheels actually seized up because some slush/ice/snow got up within the wheel and there was no room for the brake calipers. Anyone hear of this happening to anyone else? Can anyone say for 100% if it is possible to put 17s on that car?

I am currently running high-offset 17" steelies with my winter tires. Originally, the tire guy thought there might be a problem, but they did a test fit and it was OK. I have driven the car through all sorts of crap with our crazy weather lately and I have nad NO problems. Other than the usual rusting rotors when the rotors are wet (I experience this problem on both the MSP and MS6) I have no issues at all with the wheels. I was actually considering putting 17" on the car in the summer since I am not a fan of the stock rims.

R

[nicka]

I am currently running high-offset 17" steelies with my winter tires. Originally, the tire guy thought there might be a problem, but they did a test fit and it was OK. I have driven the car through all sorts of crap with our crazy weather lately and I have nad NO problems. Other than the usual rusting rotors when the rotors are wet (I experience this problem on both the MSP and MS6) I have no issues at all with the wheels. I was actually considering putting 17" on the car in the summer since I am not a fan of the stock rims.

R

Thanks, Rainman. What offset do you have on those steelies?

[nicka]

Thanks, Rainman. How much of an offset are we talkin here?

[Rainman]

Thanks, Rainman. How much of an offset are we talkin here?

I'll have to check that for you. I don't know the exact measurement off-hand.

R

[jaw307]

the offset is "high" like most import cars witch means 35+ offset would be fine for any aftermarket wheels with a 5/4.50-114.3 lug pattern

[nicka]

Got it! :)

[mazda6gal]

After reading this post and thinking about teh whole winter tire thing I think that I may go with the steel rim idea, it is cheaper and although some say ugly... But I am going for the cost effective way to get thru the winter, I dont want to or have the cash for nice looking rims and tires for teh winter. My thoughts are get steelies and GREAT tires.... Any one else have opinions???

thanks

michelle

[Rainman]

After reading this post and thinking about teh whole winter tire thing I think that I may go with the steel rim idea, it is cheaper and although some say ugly... But I am going for the cost effective way to get thru the winter, I dont want to or have the cash for nice looking rims and tires for teh winter. My thoughts are get steelies and GREAT tires.... Any one else have opinions???

thanks

michelle

This is the way to go. Why trash aftermarket rims in the snow, slush, and salt if you don't have to. Besides, the car is dirty way more often in the winter than it is in the summer, so why not save your money for summertime goodies and just go with the steelies. If the steelies get scratched up, its OK....they're steelies. If your aftermarket "winter" rims get scratched up you might not be so happy.

Go with the steelies with good tires combo...you won't regret it.

R

[mazda6gal]

So after doing a 360 in my driveway on ice today I am off to find steelies and tires I am new at this so what am i looking for in terms of size and offset etc for 17 and 18 inch rims
Thanks
from a
newbie


Michelle

[nicka]

You Can go to http://www.net-comber.com/tirecalc.html and find out what size you need to have the same diameter in a 17 inch steelie (that's the most important), then go to www.tiretrends.com (Canadian) and do a lookup for that size. I have a set of Pirelli all seasons on my speed6 now, that'll do for the rest of the season. I'll purchase probably a set of Bridgestone Blizzak next season and a set of 17 inch steelies.

[Rainman]

17" rims with offset ~ 35mm (did a quick measure this evening, but at -20 degrees C I wasn't spending a lot of time outside with exposed fingers...LOL). Tires are 215/50R17 Dunlop Graspic 2s.

Initially, the tire guy didn't think that they would fit over the calipers. He thought that he might have to go to a 16" rim to find appropriate clearance. However, after doing a test fit, he found that the clearance was fine and that there were no rubbing/binding issues.

I have had them on the car for 3 months through all sorts of weather and I have never had a problem with them at all. If I had had more money, I might have gone with Toyo winter tires instead. I have those on the MSP and I love them. The Graspic 2, although rated well, don't feel quite as grippy as the Toyos.

R

[StuttersC]

the offset is "high" like most import cars witch means 35+ offset would be fine for any aftermarket wheels with a 5/4.50-114.3 lug pattern

What?

The stock offset of the Mazda6 wheel is +60...+35 won't work...

You need to be in the 48+ range to get wheels to fit on the Mazda6

[Rainman]

What?

The stock offset of the Mazda6 wheel is +60...+35 won't work...

You need to be in the 48+ range to get wheels to fit on the Mazda6

I realized the error when I checked the receipt today. According to my invoice this is what was installed:

Dunlop Graspic DS2 215/50R17
Steel Wheels 17" 5x4.5" (114.3mm) bolt pattern, +42.755 offset
No spacers used to my knowledge.

I have been driving through mucho slush and snow without any problems whatsoever. No contact with the fenders or contact with the calipers. The installer had to do a test fit first to be sure that they would clear the calipers, but once on the car be found that there were no clearance issues.

R

[ferdinand]

....i wish i could've used my 17x7.5 enkei rpf1 rims with summer tires at the track this summer to see how the car goes with lightweight rims and tires....but i didn't wanna pony the $$ for winter rims....

I'm using the stock oem wheels for my winter wheels and have done that with my past three vehicles. I think the factory wheels for the mazdapeed 6 are just OK and rather heavy. With the factory wheels and 18 inch snow tires (215/45/18) - this car is as good a winter vehicle as anything I have driven in the snow. I would rather spend money on a summer set-up than buy a wheel/tire set-up for the winter - plus I knew that they would fit and didn't stress about offset, clearance, or speedo error. Steelies are a good option, but I just don't like the way they look on any car that I have seen them on.

[Rainman]

Steelies are a good option, but I just don't like the way they look on any car that I have seen them on.

True enough, they do look kinda ghetto. However, I just can't bear the thought of my rims oxidizing with all the salt that they put on our roads locally. Even aluminum rims oxidize...the oxide is just clearless so most people don't think that they rust. The steelies already look ghetto so I don't worry about them rusting.

R

[ferdinand]

True enough, they do look kinda ghetto. However, I just can't bear the thought of my rims oxidizing with all the salt that they put on our roads locally. Even aluminum rims oxidize...the oxide is just clearless so most people don't think that they rust. The steelies already look ghetto so I don't worry about them rusting.

R
No doubt - if I liked the stock rims more, I wouldn't put them through the harsh winters...and even though I don't especially care for the rims, I still find myself washing the car weekly and keep wheel cleaner in the car for when I go through the car wash (so maybe I do like them a little :) )

[mazda6gal]

Ghetto or not they are less expensive so if you hit a harsh pot hole no troubles.. however while on my quest for steelies, i am having NO luck!!!

[cheesefarmer]

The service manager at my dealership says that there was a guy who tried to put 17" on his MSP6, but his wheels actually seized up because some slush/ice/snow got up within the wheel and there was no room for the brake calipers. Anyone hear of this happening to anyone else? Can anyone say for 100% if it is possible to put 17s on that car?


i have enkei rpf1 17's with winter tires ... we've had about 5" of snow/slush/water/refrozen snow/ice in the last week and i've had no problems with my 17's with wheels seizing. there is a lot of room inside the wheel and brakes.

btw, i have 48mm offset on my wheels, it sticks out about 13mm compared to stock wheel setup

[nicka]

i have enkei rpf1 17's with winter tires ... we've had about 5" of snow/slush/water/refrozen snow/ice in the last week and i've had no problems with my 17's with wheels seizing. there is a lot of room inside the wheel and brakes.

btw, i have 48mm offset on my wheels, it sticks out about 13mm compared to stock wheel setup

How much did the Enkei's run for ($)?