I can't drop the P5.....

[TeamPlayers]

Cause my wife said that she will foget that it is lowered. (boom07)

But I can respect that. So are there any other ways of enhancing the handling of the P5 at stock ride hight? I put some better rubber on but I think I can get more out of her.

[aMaff]

Cause my wife said that she will foget that it is lowered. (boom07)

But I can respect that. So are there any other ways of enhancing the handling of the P5 at stock ride hight? I put some better rubber on but I think I can get more out of her.
rubber, motor mounts (stop wheel hop) sway bars, and better struts

[TeamPlayers]

rubber, motor mounts (stop wheel hop) sway bars, and better struts


yeah wheel hop is driving my crazy, feels like I can never get on it with out the car bouncing all over the place

[aMaff]

easy on the throttle.....it's bad for ur CV axles, and tranny...I'm gonna put up with it until I decide to make the big jump into STS...you have to wait til you're pointed straight to go WOT...

[Brian MP5T]

You can drop it off at my house. I need parts.

[TeamPlayers]

You can drop it off at my house. I need parts.


dont tempt me...I was half tempted to sell the P5 a while ago

well I guess motor mounts are my next purchase

[aMaff]

dont tempt me...I was half tempted to sell the P5 a while ago

well I guess motor mounts are my next purchase
you don't need to use the stiffest ones btw, if u get them, ur whole car's just gonna shake sitting @ idle lol, not exactly the best for a Daily...just a thought

And y'd u wanna sell the P5?

[TeamPlayers]

you don't need to use the stiffest ones btw, if u get them, ur whole car's just gonna shake sitting @ idle lol, not exactly the best for a Daily...just a thought

And y'd u wanna sell the P5?

If I dont need the stiffest, which ones do I need to get?

I thought about selling the P5 due to lack of power. My P5 sits next to an Evo everyday and everytime I drive it it just feels slow after driving my Evo. But I got plans for the P5. Dont know what exactly but plans none the less. Stay tuned for when I take her to the Nurburgring in March. (thumb)

[chuyler1]

Get some 16x7 wheels and throw some 205/55/16s on them (5% larger than stock). It will help with the wheel gap.

[TeamPlayers]

Get some 16x7 wheels and throw some 205/55/16s on them (5% larger than stock). It will help with the wheel gap.

16x7??? whats stock?

[aMaff]

If I dont need the stiffest, which ones do I need to get?

I thought about selling the P5 due to lack of power. My P5 sits next to an Evo everyday and everytime I drive it it just feels slow after driving my Evo. But I got plans for the P5. Dont know what exactly but plans none the less. Stay tuned for when I take her to the Nurburgring in March. (thumb)
HA! No shit lol. I'll trade ya! I think AWR makes 95, 80 and 70 (or 75, I can't remember) durometer (hardness) mounts, and a lot of ppl have just replaced just the front one w/ the softest one and say it eliminated wheel hop. I think I'm gonna go w/ the 80's when I do mine. Also, it's not a good idea to just replace the front mount, as it puts extra strain on the rear. It IS a bitch to do the rear, but it's definately do-able.

So, can I have the evo? You could get my P5, take the engine out, do a rear mount setup and have the first twin engine P5.....it's just a though...all that glory, and at the price of a measley Evo...

[aMaff]

16x7??? whats stock?
16x6. if u use taller tires, ur accelleration will suffer...I've got 205-40-17's on it now for street use...they're a little shorter than stock, and don't ride too stiff.

[chuyler1]

The difference is marginal. The MSP has 5% larger overall diameter compared to the P5 and other than the turbo, nothing is done to compensate with regards to gear ratios (AFAIK).

[TeamPlayers]

So, can I have the evo? You could get my P5, take the engine out, do a rear mount setup and have the first twin engine P5.....it's just a though...all that glory, and at the price of a measley Evo...


I would be more than happy to sell you my Evo if I could get it back to the states legaly. The whole JDM RHD might make customs kinda mad

[i12drivemyMP5]

205 40 17s will make excess wheel gap if not lowered any.

[the tortoise]

I think I'm gonna go w/ the 80's when I do mine. Also, it's not a good idea to just replace the front mount, as it puts extra strain on the rear. It IS a bitch to do the rear, but it's definately do-able.


I'm hoping to just install the 70 durometer front mount. The goal is to reduce the driveline lash without adding too much vibration.

How much life will only having the front take out of the rear? Also, if the rear mount wears due to the extra strain, can I just install the RR inserts?

--- Sorry to threadjack ---

[aMaff]

I'm hoping to just install the 70 durometer front mount. The goal is to reduce the driveline lash without adding too much vibration.

How much life will only having the front take out of the rear? Also, if the rear mount wears due to the extra strain, can I just install the RR inserts?

--- Sorry to threadjack ---
yeah, but if I'm not mistaken, those are still only the side mounts. It'll help, but, you know. I'm planning on getting the 80's front and rear, and getting either the AWR or the RR inserts for the sides. that should keep the thing pretty damn planted lol

[the tortoise]

I thought that RR-Racing made inserts for the existing stock mounts.

[Chilledboost]

correct me if im wrong but is wheel hop the loud banging noise i get when i do a burnout

[aMaff]

yeah...that's what I said. Leave the side mounts stock, because they don't do a whole helluva lot, but put the RR inserts there to re-enforce them

[aMaff]

correct me if im wrong but is wheel hop the loud banging noise i get when i do a burnout
yes, that is your CV axles, wheel bearings, and transmission crying out in utter agony....

EDIT: U've got a speed, so add the LSD to the list

[Chilledboost]

what do i do to correct this

[aMaff]

Motor mounts...read the thread lol

[Chilledboost]

well do you think i sould replace the cv axles since i did it or do you think they are ok i have only done it 2 or 3 times as soon as it starts banging i let off the throttle

[the tortoise]

yeah...that's what I said. Leave the side mounts stock, because they don't do a whole helluva lot, but put the RR inserts there to re-enforce them

I was actually referring to an insert for the rear mount. I think this may be a good performance/vibration compromise.

[Protephile]

Do the MSP (Racing Beat) springs/suspensions work on the 5s?
I never really knew for sure.
Anyway, you're talking about less than an inch drop in ride height and a significant improvement in handling if they fit...

[aMaff]

ya, they fit. .75" drop f/r if I'm not mistaken. I'm pretty sure u could sell her on that ;)

[ronin12]

well do you think i sould replace the cv axles since i did it or do you think they are ok i have only done it 2 or 3 times as soon as it starts banging i let off the throttle
they should be ok, if you hear clicking coming from your front end while turning and accelerating(note: NOT A BURNOUT, LIGHTLY like a normal person) then the c.v. joint(s) are no good, if there is no clicking you should be fine

from what I have read the msp springs could fit the P5, but is not recommended harsher ride than the RB springs made for the P5( I think)

[aMaff]

I was actually referring to an insert for the rear mount. I think this may be a good performance/vibration compromise.
oooh, gotcha. I don't know if they make them for the rear or not...

well do you think i sould replace the cv axles since i did it or do you think they are ok i have only done it 2 or 3 times as soon as it starts banging i let off the throttle
No...I mean, unless you really want to be out the money lol. Na, they're not THAT sensitive, just try not to do it a whole lot. I auto-x, and I"m still sortof a n0oB @ it, and for my first few races I'd just stomp on the pedal coming out of corners, and it would buck like crazy (the inside wheel literally bounces up and down as it tries to gain traction...). Basically, it's "driver error." I wasn't any faster (no traction), and I was tearing up my car. I have make a concious effort now to keep my car at the limit so that I don't get wheel hop...and like I said, motor mounts will remedy the situation.

[kakarot]

Yep, pair the Racing Beat/Mazdaspeed springs with a set of Tokico HP's and you will get a very nice improvement in handling for not too much money and you will barely notice the difference in ride height. I love mine. I can easily go head to head in handling with my buddy's Cooper S. Only drawback is that WILL definately loose some ride quality. The set-up is a bit stiff.

[Chilledboost]

if you are looking for the mazdaspeed springs, sway bar kit and the struts.
the dealership i work at has the package i think they only want $ 950 for all of it

[TeamPlayers]

Yep, pair the Racing Beat/Mazdaspeed springs with a set of Tokico HP's and you will get a very nice improvement in handling for not too much money and you will barely notice the difference in ride height. I love mine. I can easily go head to head in handling with my buddy's Cooper S. Only drawback is that WILL definately loose some ride quality. The set-up is a bit stiff.


interesting

[Mike R]

I'm running the racing beat springs and tokico illuminas. With an AWR rear bar my car handles great, rides great, and sits almost at the stock hieght.

[SkinnyJoint]

tockico's with espelir springs here i love it, i wish it was a little stiffer, will prolly get some better springs soon

[Brian MP5T]

dont tempt me...I was half tempted to sell the P5 a while ago

well I guess motor mounts are my next purchase

Your wife will not appreciate them and then she will not wat to drive the caqr and then you can DROP THE CAR!

(thumb)

[NJP5Guy]

easy on the throttle.....it's bad for ur CV axles, and tranny...I'm gonna put up with it until I decide to make the big jump into STS...you have to wait til you're pointed straight to go WOT...

that is the class i got put into and i didnt even have my suspension then. i was so outclassed.

[NVP5White]

yeah wheel hop is driving my crazy, feels like I can never get on it with out the car bouncing all over the place

I've recently thought about rigging a shock absorber between the engine and chassis to act as a...well, shock absorber. I think that might provide enough slowing of the engine movement (not necessarily reduce the amount of movement) thus preventing the resonent windup-release-windup-release that turns basic loss of tire grip into massive wheel hop. The key term here is resonent movement, by preventing the immediate release of energy by the rubber engine mounts, I can prevent that torque from being sent to the wheels, thereby allowing them maintain grip. Even if the tires lost grip, there would be no sympathetic thrashing of the engine inside the mounts.

Please, let me know if this is way off base. I know it probably would be seen somewhere is it were effective...I'm probably not the first guy to think of this.

Thanks

[Brian MP5T]

They have those already. It's called an engine dampener. It sucks.

[aMaff]

ya, you COULD just get engine mounts, and it would work just as well lol.


that is the class i got put into and i didnt even have my suspension then. i was so outclassed.
What did u have then? And how's it going now?

[bazooka joe]

Cause my wife said that she will foget that it is lowered. (boom07)

But I can respect that. So are there any other ways of enhancing the handling of the P5 at stock ride hight? I put some better rubber on but I think I can get more out of her.

am i missing something? i dropped my car, and i rarely have to worry about hitting stuff...the only thing i wacked once was those stupid cement tire stops at the shopping center, maybe a real steep and direct incline, but that would go for any smaller car...i don;t know, but i've never had an issue...?

[SkinnyJoint]

am i missing something? i dropped my car, and i rarely have to worry about hitting stuff...the only thing i wacked once was those stupid cement tire stops at the shopping center, maybe a real steep and direct incline, but that would go for any smaller car...i don;t know, but i've never had an issue...?

im with u man, ive never scraped or hit anything as well. does she like drive with her eyes closed like most women do? (oooooooo) lol

[aMaff]

(outie)

[NJP5Guy]

ya, you COULD just get engine mounts, and it would work just as well lol.


What did u have then? And how's it going now?

i had everything in my sig but the tires ans struts/springs. other cars in that class were highly modified. i had to go back and see what i was up against. i was only able to do one event last year. hoping for more this year.

[aMaff]

The ladder bar is STS legal?

[NJP5Guy]

The ladder bar is STS legal?

well sts is street modified and the ladder bar was a mod. though they never inquired about all my mods. in the intake alone put me in sts.

[sidpro5]

Cause my wife said that she will foget that it is lowered. (boom07)



That's funny. I have mine riding on Eibach Pro-Kits and my wife doesn't even know it. Ha!