HID Conversion

[chimmy106]

Yo I got a 06 6er wanting to convert over to HID! What types of bulbs and where can I find a conversion kit?

[chimmy106]

Yo I got a 06 6er wanting to convert over to HID! What types of bulbs and where can I find a conversion kit?
anyone? or does no one know?

[chimmy106]

awesome

[Raynman]

Two HID manufacturers that the 6 community have dealt with are XenonExpert and McCulloch (i don't have the link handy here at work). The stock bulbs are H1 so you'll probably want to stick with that bulb. Color output is up to your preference, of course.

[Mazda0-6ty]

Two HID manufacturers that the 6 community have dealt with are XenonExpert and McCulloch (i don't have the link handy here at work). The stock bulbs are H1 so you'll probably want to stick with that bulb. Color output is up to your preference, of course.


PIAA makes a H.I.D. bulb that just goes into your O.E.M. LIGHTS AND NOONE will know the difference. I have replaced all mine with them inlcuding my fogs and am more than happy with them. I had actual H.I.D.'s on my VW Jetta and they look the exact same.

[InFlames]

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119525&highlight=xenon+hid+helios

[Raynman]

PIAA makes a H.I.D. bulb that just goes into your O.E.M. LIGHTS AND NOONE will know the difference. I have replaced all mine with them inlcuding my fogs and am more than happy with them. I had actual H.I.D.'s on my VW Jetta and they look the exact same.

Just a point of clarification:

PIAA Xtreeme White Plus bulbs are halogen bulbs, not bona fide HID systems. They're halogen bulbs with a color output similar to HIDs.

[Mazda0-6ty]

Just a point of clarification:

PIAA Xtreeme White Plus bulbs are halogen bulbs, not bona fide HID systems. They're halogen bulbs with a color output similar to HIDs.

Actually I know that. That is why I said "I have replaced all mine with them inlcuding my fogs and am more than happy with them. I had actual H.I.D.'s on my VW Jetta and they look the exact same"
"LOOK THE EXACT SAME" AND "AM MORE THAN HAPPY WITH" Indicate that I really did know that but didn't care because they work more than well enough. I don't need to spend the extra money just so I can say that they are the real thing when they look AND work the same,but thanks for your attention materialistic ideals anyway.

[Raynman]

...but thanks for your attention materialistic ideals anyway.

Materialistic? Hardly. Do you consider the Europeans and the Japanese materialistic because HIDs dominate about 50% of the head lamp market share there? :rolleyes:

I don't even have HIDs nor do I care for them...for now. If anything I can be accused of possessing too much attention to detail so much so that it borders on anal retentiveness. I just wanted to avoid the confusion of mistaking PIAA bulbs as HID bulbs, as you described them:

PIAA makes a H.I.D. bulb...

Hence the point of clarification: They may have HID color output, but the fact of the matter is they're halogen bulbs. Yes, you know the difference. However, your statement might lead to some confusion and needed clarification, which is by no means a personal attack nor merits an underhanded dig at my ideals - whatever you may think them to be.

I don't know why you got all defensive. I made no judgements on your choice of modifications. If anything I'm glad they work out for you.

[ssinstaller]

If you want HID's get them.

You can find halogen bulbs that have the same "look", but a blue/white halogen bulb has less actual light output than a regular halogen bulb of the same wattage, and neither come anywhere close to the output of an HID bulb.

[Mazda0-6ty]

I merely pointed out an "Alternative" for those who don't have an unlimited budget for these things,but are still looking to improve over O.E.M. (WHICH IT DOES!) as some people have families to take care of,etc and can't justify spending every dime they make on there car as alot of people in the forums are in this position for one reason or another. I KNOW the difference,but that was not what this thread was about in the first place. Please move on as this advice was for people in different situations than that of the people who keep droning on and on about the differences in lighting,but thank you anyway for looking really hard for something to argue about here anyway!
I persay am not cheap either,I already have 10,000 in my car in aftermarket,but my car is NOT daily driver and I rarely even drive it at night anyway so I really don't care that much about the lighting as I drive my Ranger most of the time anyway and save my six for nice summer days.
Besides I have a family and kids to take care of as well as TWO other car payments so my Headlights are NOT my first priority and I am sure I still have as much money invested in my car as most of the people here anyway.
WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD all those people trying to tell me what's what!
To all the others who understand what I was saying in the first place...Good Luck and Have a Great Day!

[seanmcsean]

hey now, take it easy folks!!

I actually thought about purchasing those PIAA bulbs that you recommended 6ty. They seem to be a good alternative to the stock headlamps.

[ssinstaller]

I merely pointed out an "Alternative" for those who don't have an unlimited budget for these things,but are still looking to improve over O.E.M. (WHICH IT DOES!) as some people have families to take care of,etc and can't justify spending every dime they make on there car as alot of people in the forums are in this position for one reason or another. I KNOW the difference,but that was not what this thread was about in the first place. Please move on as this advice was for people in different situations than that of the people who keep droning on and on about the differences in lighting,but thank you anyway for looking really hard for something to argue about here anyway!
I persay am not cheap either,I already have 10,000 in my car in aftermarket,but my car is NOT daily driver and I rarely even drive it at night anyway so I really don't care that much about the lighting as I drive my Ranger most of the time anyway and save my six for nice summer days.
Besides I have a family and kids to take care of as well as TWO other car payments so my Headlights are NOT my first priority and I am sure I still have as much money invested in my car as most of the people here anyway.
WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD all those people trying to tell me what's what!
To all the others who understand what I was saying in the first place...Good Luck and Have a Great Day!


You really should work on your tone. People come on here for info and advice and everyone(myself included) can understand a dissenting opinion, but your posts are inflammatory.

If you don't agree with my opinion that's fine, but don't get all pissy because I don't agree with yours.


Chris

[Mazda0-6ty]

hey now, take it easy folks!!

I actually thought about purchasing those PIAA bulbs that you recommended 6ty. They seem to be a good alternative to the stock headlamps.

It was merely an alternative I mentioned,I never realized it was gonna make me a bad guy for offering a cheaper alternative for others.....lol

It had nothing to do with an opinion for others to agree with so thank you for being the only person to see it for what it was!

[JENZm6]

I changed my 2 front headlights to Nokya H1 bulbs and it looks good, but now I want to change the stock yellow front parking lights blue so they don't clash with the blue headlights. Does anyone know what code or bulbs I should be looking for? Thanks for your help.

[rk2581]

There's a sticky on this.......
Exterior Lighting -
Low Beam: H1
High Beam: H1
Fog Light (non-sport): H1
Fog Light (sport): H3
Fog Light(Speed 6) H11
Front Parking Light: 194
Front Turn Signals (North America): 1157
Front Turn Signals (Global): 1156
Front Side Markers: 194
Rear Brake Light: 7443
Rear Turn Signal: 7440
Rear Back up Light: 921
Rear License Plate Lights: 194

Interior Lighting -
Interior Door Lights: 194
Interior Dome Lights: 194
Glove Box Light: 194
Vanity Mirror: 74
Trunk light: Sedan - ? Hatch - 31mm Festoon

hope this helps

[tunersteve]

RPM sells the DDM/Apexcone HIDs for a really good price, plug and play, and lifetime warranty. If you want HIDs, do the research, so you know what you're getting into. I personally love mine on my MS6 and won't be buying another car that doesn't have them. My friend with his Fusion Sport has them in 8k 55w lows/fogs and they look fantastic.

[MikeM6s]

Wow! this thread sure got lit up for a while there (boom01), as a former owner of Xenon HIDs on my 04 M6S I can say the the Silverstars are no match for HID comparison. I would like to know more about the PIAA bulbs and other non HID bulbs. I want brighter lights ( HIDs spoiled the hell out of me) but I’m not willing to do the HID thing till I get head light projectors I’m happy with. Does anyone here have experience with non HID bulbs that they are happy with? I’m sure we all know we’re talking about the “H1” bulb.



EDIT;
here's a PIAA link http://www.piaa.com/Bulbs/Bulbs-H1.html

[OJ Bartley]

Mike, the GE Nighthawks are pretty well regarded for a straight up halogen replacement. You won't have a blue tint to them, but they're supposed to be some of the best bulbs for actually putting light out on the road. Give 'em a quick google for more info.

[MikeM6s]

OJ
Thanks for the info, here's what I found;

http:http://www.gelighting.com/na/business_lighting/education_resources/literature_library/catalogs/downloads/auto_00_full_catalog.pdf//

I see you have the Falkens, me too although I run on the 912s. Awesome tires so says me and Consumer Report.

[rk2581]

I am actually thinking about using a conversion kit like these found here:

http://hidwholesaler.com/nsort.asp?sort_id=21&nsort_id=100

anybody have any experience with these? (uhm)

[wh1te0nr1ce]

find the 79.99 shipped slim kits off ebay that are xentec. I have used/installed these for years and have nothing but positive experiences with these.

[rk2581]

find the 79.99 shipped slim kits off ebay that are xentec. I have used/installed these for years and have nothing but positive experiences with these.

Great, thanx!!! (breakn) I'll have to check if to see if they have any kind of warranty!

[SubXer0]

^ i also have used the ebay kits, and also had one of the more expensive kits back in the day when they were starting to get popular, the ebay kits are nearly as good only thing to caution you about is i've noticed the color temp rating seems to be different in the cheap kits compared to the more high end kits
for example a 10000k in a cheap kit is often the same color as a 6000k kit in a more expensive kit, but you could always get the hardware from the cheap kits then buy replacement bulbs that are better quality which often works quite well and saves money for those on a budget

[OJ Bartley]

OJ
Thanks for the info, here's what I found;

http:http://www.gelighting.com/na/business_lighting/education_resources/literature_library/catalogs/downloads/auto_00_full_catalog.pdf//

I see you have the Falkens, me too although I run on the 912s. Awesome tires so says me and Consumer Report.

Yeah, the Falkens have been really good, although I never actually had the Potenzas on MY car (they were bald when I bought, and I had the broker put the Falkens on new before I picked it up), I think they were a good substitute. Terrible in snow though, right now I'm on Hankook W300's for winter.

I am actually thinking about using a conversion kit like these found here:

http://hidwholesaler.com/nsort.asp?sort_id=21&nsort_id=100

anybody have any experience with these? (uhm)

I don't have any real experience with this yet, but I have been looking at upgrading my stock HIDs to an aftermarket kit, and someone posted a link to this site on another forum, which has some pretty great pricing on DDM and Apexcone kits... I don't know exactly how much is involved in converting from halogen, but have a look around and at least it might be another option for you: http://www.ddmtuning.com/hidkihidbuhi.html

[rk2581]

Thanx OJ, (bowdown) There's nothing wrong with more options! Being that they are halogen projectors, it should be a fairly simple switch like changing a bulb (and mounting the ballasts). I have a pretty sharp cut-off now and I know it will only be amplified by the HIDs so I am really looking forward to that. I just want to put some more light (white light) out there in front of me.

[OJ Bartley]

NP, dude! Just make sure you aim them properly when you get them all set up, and let us know how it turns out!

[rk2581]

To any of you that have done the conversion: did you take the bumper off? I seen arguments for installing both with and without taking the bumper off.

[nevaneva86]

Yo I got a 06 6er wanting to convert over to HID! What types of bulbs and where can I find a conversion kit?
I saw some pretty good deals on ebay, just do a little research on what kind of lightening you want...personally I like the 6000k (which is a bright white) but it's up to you if you want coloured lights or not.

[JSKCKNIT]

To any of you that have done the conversion: did you take the bumper off? I seen arguments for installing both with and without taking the bumper off.

I was hoping someone would have answered this!! I'm about to do a HID conversion install. Everything I've read says remove the bumper. It looks like you can get right in there without removing the bumper if you have small hands; OR, come in through the wheel well.
(flame2)

[amilliems6]

see what i dont get from ddm tuning is whats the difference between

these
http://www.ddmtuning.com/index.php?p=product&id=102&parent=85

and

http://www.ddmtuning.com/index.php?p=product&id=101&parent=85



also here is the kit from ebay that ive been hearing nothing but great reviews on.. im planning on ordering one in about 2 weeks.. i wanna do my hid fogs before winter

* 2 x HID Bulbs
* 2 x Ballasts
* 2 x Wire harness
* 4 x Zip ties
* All necessary wires and install accessories
* Installation diagram (English)

$55.99 shipped!


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H1-H3-H4-H7-H11-XENON-HID-CONVERSION-KIT-9005-9006-9007_W0QQitemZ160314309524QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotor s_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item16031430952 4&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1308#ht_10156wt_1201


http://www.hidxtra.com/ebay/799230.jpg

[amilliems6]

BUMP

does anyone know what i said from above?

[MilleniaFan]

I have a 2005 Mazda 6 Sport Hatchback. Is the fog light H3 or H1. I am confused. Also, could I replace but the lowbeam an fog light with ddm 55w without overheating? Would I have any problems running to sets of aftermarket HIDs?

Thanks.

[tunersteve]

Without looking at specific light output for those bulbs, it's hard to say. At 35w, I'm not sure if one will be brighter than the other.

Just keep in mind, color (in K) does not equal brighter bulbs. You need to look at the light output (in lumens), and the higher the number, the more usable light.

[tunersteve]

I have a 2005 Mazda 6 Sport Hatchback. Is the fog light H3 or H1. I am confused. Also, could I replace but the lowbeam an fog light with ddm 55w without overheating? Would I have any problems running to sets of aftermarket HIDs?

Thanks.

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122467

There's your listing of bulbs for your car. Looks like you have an H3 bulb on yours.