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lilpud
01-11-2006, 01:02 AM
ok well om wanting to do a little bit of boosting to my msp but i no its not a good idea to do boosting with plastic piping soooo i was wanting to no u anyone was wanting to sale piping or knew of a place to buy hard piping

MrDiggler
01-11-2006, 01:06 AM
Try www.turbohoses.com (http://www.turbohoses.com/) and please insert some puncutation & capitalization in your posts. It will make it much easier for others to read and comprehend.

I think there are many who have boosted 10 psi or more with the factory pipes. I know I'll take mine to 9 or 10 psi with them very soon.

lilpud
01-11-2006, 09:34 AM
my bad man i woke up last night at like 1 and I wanted to find out about the hard piping on my car. hahah

but you think that the stock piping can take 10 psi???

silverspeed03
01-11-2006, 12:23 PM
my bad man i woke up last night at like 1 and I wanted to find out about the hard piping on my car. hahah

but you think that the stock piping can take 10 psi???


The question isn't can the piping take 10 psi, can your motor take it. I hope you have some other bolt-ons to make it easier on your car.

lilpud
01-11-2006, 12:44 PM
i have an intake and thats about it. i mean 9 or 10 isnt going to be that much on the engine is it?????

pluto316
01-11-2006, 12:49 PM
i have an intake and thats about it. i mean 9 or 10 isnt going to be that much on the engine is it?????

(hah)

You over-estimate the durability of the FS-DE without engine management.

lilpud
01-11-2006, 12:51 PM
soo what yall are saying is that you cant do a damn thing to a mazdaspeed protege without some type of up's......yes??

pluto316
01-11-2006, 01:02 PM
soo what yall are saying is that you cant do a damn thing to a mazdaspeed protege without some type of up's......yes??

Some type of up's? What the hell are you talking about? Don't raise the boost without a new intercooler and exhaust. Even then, don't go past 8psi unless you REALLY want to see what the rods look like inside your motor, cause you'll have a nice window in your block to see them. You NEED engine management with forced induction when raising the boost.

lilpud
01-11-2006, 03:27 PM
oo ight well damn i have only had the car maybe a month and im just looking on doing a few things to it for now maybe spending around 500 to 700 bux.

Do you think you could give me some ideas on what to do 1st?

quatelate
01-11-2006, 03:33 PM
oo ight well damn i have only had the car maybe a month and im just looking on doing a few things to it for now maybe spending around 500 to 700 bux.

Do you think you could give me some ideas on what to do 1st?
idonno if u can still get the dsm convert afc but its like 300 bucks... that could help with the boost but i dont have one so i donno how much u can actualy raise the boost with it. u could prolly get 10psi if u dont drive like a dumbass.

byohndspeed
01-11-2006, 03:38 PM
you could do dsm's afc, and a new midpipe..that would be in your budget and give some good gains.

lilpud
01-11-2006, 03:40 PM
where can i get a dsm afc????

quatelate
01-11-2006, 03:46 PM
where can i get a dsm afc????
here on the website go into the forsale section in the mazdaspeed protege section it should be one of the first few threads but i donno if they still sell it and im too lazy to check

lilpud
01-11-2006, 04:17 PM
i didnt see any....damn well any more ideas??

POSEIDON
01-11-2006, 04:19 PM
Some type of up's? What the hell are you talking about? Don't raise the boost without a new intercooler and exhaust. Even then, don't go past 8psi unless you REALLY want to see what the rods look like inside your motor, cause you'll have a nice window in your block to see them. You NEED engine management with forced induction when raising the boost.


He's being a bit over-dramatic about this, but he is right. Although I have friends running 10psi daily on stock pipes and stock ECU.

lilpud
01-11-2006, 04:23 PM
what ecu upgrade should i get???

i really dont want to spend an ass load on it but if i have to i have too

CasopoliS
01-11-2006, 04:23 PM
If reliability is important to you, don't boost 10psi without exhaust, intercooler, management, etc. It can be done, but it is BETTER to do it safely.

byohndspeed
01-11-2006, 04:26 PM
dsm still sells them. go to the msp marketplace section and look for the gb for afc's. then pm dsm about getting one.

lilpud
01-11-2006, 04:31 PM
well im not really worried about boosting it up to 10psi right now i was just thinking something like 8 or9 psi

lilpud
01-11-2006, 04:54 PM
ight i sent him a pm asking if i could buy one..........

what all will it do for me??

CasopoliS
01-11-2006, 05:09 PM
You will be able to control Air/Fuel ratios with it. You can upload air/fuel tables or 'maps' into the unit using a serial cable. Most people have best luck with a USB to serial adapter. There are some air/fuel tables online that you can download. The car will run much better.

There is an install thread around here somewhere, that shows you how to connect the 5 wires that are required. Its easy if you know how to solder.

lilpud
01-11-2006, 05:38 PM
am i look at a power boost here or just something that will help my car run better for mods later

CasopoliS
01-11-2006, 05:58 PM
no power boost, just more 'even power'. Your powerband will be smoother and nicer for everyday driving. It gets rid of hesitation problems that so many MSP owners have seen, and it allows for safe moddifications. If you get a wideband O2 gauge, you can tune it and watch your AFRs to see if you made the right changes.

lilpud
01-11-2006, 06:23 PM
ooooo ok

well thanks for the input

sooo im probly going to get this what should i get after i do that

pluto316
01-11-2006, 08:26 PM
He's being a bit over-dramatic about this, but he is right. Although I have friends running 10psi daily on stock pipes and stock ECU.

I thought Zeus got an EVO?

byohndspeed
01-11-2006, 10:52 PM
i would do a new midpipe.the stockie has 2 cats. and very resrtictive.