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pbdave

01-07-2006, 10:41 PM

Well we have decided. We like our stock audio system overall, but it is kinda lacking on the low end, even my wife agrees!

So now we are looking for options to add a bit-o-bass. Anyone done anything sub-wise yet? As life now involves strollers & other useful equipment we cannot do a standard sub box, so I am thinking something molded & built in either to one of the side bins at the back, or....?

Thoughts? Seen anything out there?

Myztri

01-08-2006, 01:22 AM

im interested in the replies to this...

WhitewaterPearl

01-08-2006, 09:42 PM

I too have been pondering how to get one in the passenger side rear bin. Another option is attaching a powered subwoofer to to back of the third row seat so when the seat is folded down it would lay flat just behind the 2nd row seats not eating up too much cargo space. We have only used the 3rd row seats once so for us down is almost always.
More than likely I'll go the route of a (small) subwoofer; I hear one of the best is the Kenwood KSC-SW1.

CasopoliS

01-08-2006, 09:50 PM

A search would find more threads about this topic than ... well the total post count from all three beginning posters.

Gobe_Air

01-09-2006, 12:05 AM

A search would find more threads about this topic than ... well the total post count from all three beginning posters.

I'd doubt that..., they're discussing how subs would fit into a "not so roomy' 2006 Mazda5, but I could be wrong

A link would be helpful (sun)

CasopoliS

01-09-2006, 08:38 AM

Ah shit my bad.... I keep getting it mixed up with the Protege5.... where this has been discussed a ton.
I cannot help with the mazda5, but good luck. Over time the knowledge base will grow....

the_saint

01-09-2006, 09:34 AM

I know this won't help, but I've seen a Premacy with 2 12s (boom07)

There is a guy from another forum who installed a Kenwood KSC-SW1, but doesn't have any pics yet.

Here's what he had to say...
Finished my subwoofer install this weekend. I used the speaker level inputs, and placed the unit behind the third row seats. I thought I could squeeze it somewhere like under a second row seat to save room, but then I wouldn't be able to slide the seats forward. I may try to move it later if I feel inclined to experiment.

Also reworked my i-Pod installation. I tapped into the front cigerette lighter, and mounted another outlet under the cupholders. I am using a Belkin Auto kit (a charger with a 3.5mm audio output) to connect to the Auxmod at the radio. Also I installed a Ground Loop noise filter to get rid of noise, and engine whine, while the charger is in use. I still have another 3.5mm input from py previous install, so I have a splitter at the Auxmod in order to give me a dedicated iPod connection, and an accessory input for portable DVD players or whatever.

The Kenwood doesn't take up a lot of space and REALLY adds strong bass. Everyone on Crutchfield was right. Works great, won't set off car alarms, but will thump HARD once adjusted right.

For a remote turn on lead, I tapped into the radios wiring harness. The wire I used is ORANGE WITH SILVER DOTS. I used some info on M**************** to point me in the right direction, but all of our wiring has different colors.

P.S. Even WITH the third row seats removed, THE REAR SIDE PANELS ARE A #$^&^%#^% TO DEAL WITH!!! If removing these, GO CRAAAZY SLOW, like a clip at a time slow. The seatbelt lower mounts ALL go on the OUTSIDE of the panels, and don't lose the threaded plastic that the upper bolts screw into. I only have one now.

It was worth it.

pbdave

01-09-2006, 12:22 PM

the_saint

01-09-2006, 12:34 PM

Thanks Saint - what forum was that on? Maybe I can chase it up there for a pic!
mpvclub.com
In the Mazda5/Premacy section.
I forget the guy's name (and I'm too lazy to search for it again) but if you search "Kenwood KSC-SW1" under the Mazda5 section you'll find it.

the_saint

01-09-2006, 02:41 PM

Here's those 2 12s
lol

http://images3.carview.co.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPat/173576/P1.jpg

pbdave

01-09-2006, 10:41 PM

Here's those 2 12s
lol

YIKES!

'spose I could always strap the stroller to the roof hey? That is if it ever stopped RAINING here! Not to mention a setup like that would probably walk away in 15minutes 'round here.

I still am thinking (dreaming) about something in those side bins...

the_saint

01-09-2006, 10:54 PM

YIKES!

'spose I could always strap the stroller to the roof hey? That is if it ever stopped RAINING here! Not to mention a setup like that would probably walk away in 15minutes 'round here.

I still am thinking (dreaming) about something in those side bins...
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Apparently theft isn't as big of an issue in Japan as it is here in the good ol U.S. of A.

as for the side bins...what exactly are you thinking? actual subs? There isn't a whole lot of room in those side bins unless you're thinking about doing something that runs up the sides. Something that involves cutting out the bins and molding an enclosure that runs up the side behind those side panels.

My though was removing the spare (yeah, I know http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/mlsaint78/SMILEYS/vava.gif) as well as the jack and whatnot and putting a sub in the spare tire well.

pbdave

01-10-2006, 01:59 PM

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Apparently theft isn't as big of an issue in Japan as it is here in the good ol U.S. of A.

as for the side bins...what exactly are you thinking? actual subs? There isn't a whole lot of room in those side bins unless you're thinking about doing something that runs up the sides. Something that involves cutting out the bins and molding an enclosure that runs up the side behind those side panels.

My though was removing the spare (yeah, I know http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/mlsaint78/SMILEYS/vava.gif) as well as the jack and whatnot and putting a sub in the spare tire well.

The side bins are pretty small - I need a good sunny day here to nose around further. I had been thinking that there may be enough room for a 6" in some sort of molded enclosure, but it would definately have to be small. More along the lines of a bazooka tube than some serious boom.

The kenwood all-in-one unit is also intruiging. I will keep digging and post if I fin anything compelling!

Protege52003

01-10-2006, 02:18 PM

mount the amp under you seat and use a small box in the back that you can easily remove if you need the full space.....thats what i do!

the_saint

01-10-2006, 02:26 PM

mount the amp under you seat and use a small box in the back that you can easily remove if you need the full space.....thats what i do!
I've been tossing around that idea using a bazooka tube as a half a$$ed system for the time being.

Fran82

01-11-2006, 09:50 AM

There is/was a subwoofer on the market that fit inside the spare tire, I think Pioneer made it. Don't know how well it worked, but if you can still find one that might work out as an easy option.
On the other hand, I've also been looking at sub options. I used to install stereos, alarms, and what not. There definitely seems to be room for a custom fiberglass enclosure behind the rear panels. I haven't taken them apart, but for a decent 8" sub you can have an enclosure as small as 1/4 cu. ft. of airspace, which is about a shoebox. A decent 10" will require about 1/2 cu. ft. which looks like you could get, then it's just a matter of actually fitting the 10.
The other option I was thinking about was behind the center dash. I've seen small subs mounted up front before and they sounded incredible. With that console area where the shifter is (I have an automatic), it looks like there might be some space there. I'm sure others have taken it apart, so is there ANY room there?

pbdave

01-11-2006, 06:05 PM

I've been tossing around that idea using a bazooka tube as a half a$$ed system for the time being.

On that topic I was thinking maybe you could mount a 'zooka tube on the lower part of the rear door - that way it is out of the way whether the seats are up or down.

Wiring would prob be a bitch tho.

the_saint

01-11-2006, 06:33 PM

I don't think the lift struts would be able to handle the weight. Plus unless you're a short person, you'd probably hit your head (or with my luck, it'd fall off and land on my head!) even if you lift the gate to the second stop. The wiring would probably be the easiest part. lol

pbdave

01-12-2006, 03:29 PM

the_saint

01-12-2006, 03:44 PM

According to their site (link (http://www.sasbazooka.com/products.asp)), the passive (non-amplified) tubes range from 11# for the 6.5" up to 26# for the 10".

pbdave

01-19-2006, 01:08 PM

**bump** for new ideas.... anyone... anyone?

WhitewaterPearl

01-19-2006, 09:07 PM

How about a pair of 6x9 powered subs?
http://www.kenwoodaudio.com/Gulf/prodDetails.asp?Cat=Car%20Entertainment&SubCat=Speakers&Model=KFC-WDA69RC

WhitewaterPearl

01-19-2006, 09:17 PM

this one is quite compact...
http://www.alpine-europe.com/content/english/a694.det.SWD-1600_6-1-2--16cm-DUAL-LOAD-DESIGN-POWERED-SUBWOOFER-BOX-4-937%3B.htm

WhitewaterPearl

01-19-2006, 09:18 PM

small tube...
http://www.pioneer-eur.com/eur/product_detail.jsp?product_id=601&taxonomy_id=25-130

pbdave

01-20-2006, 12:19 PM

How about a pair of 6x9 powered subs?
http://www.kenwoodaudio.com/Gulf/prodDetails.asp?Cat=Car%20Entertainment&SubCat=Speakers&Model=KFC-WDA69RC

Now there's an idea - kids be damned, I am replacing the rear speaker with subs.... :)

That is a very intruiging product. I bet that this setup could quite easily be installed into the rear side bins without much fuss at all (and without eliminating the factory rear speakers) - AND it would be barely notceable from outside the vehicle if looking in. I think this is the best idea yet!

Anyone know how these little beasts sound?

I also took a peek at the "mini-sub" and "mini-tube". Their dimensions are:

sub: 11.1" x 7.67" x 3.6"
that is like smaller than a sheet of letter-sized paper! and only 3" thick! I must go outside and measure.....

tube: 6.3" x 6.1" x 15/5"
small as well but I don't think it will fit anywhere I am thinking of.

Thanks WWP! Great ideas - I will follow these ones up with a bit-o-research.

pbdave

01-20-2006, 12:41 PM

here are some pics from another forum / cardomain of the Kenwood KSC-SW1 Subwoofer installed in a 5. He also has pics of his iPod installation. Very cool setup!

source: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2233142

the_saint

01-20-2006, 12:46 PM

I remember hearing about these things like 10-12 years ago but I never actually 'heard' them. I don't know if they are all they claim to be. But if they are, they might be an option.
Aura Bass Shakers (http://www.aurasound.com/bassshaker/frameset2.html)
http://www.aurasound.com/bassshaker/images/product_bassshaker.jpg

chuyler1

01-20-2006, 01:19 PM

How about a pair of 6x9 powered subs?
http://www.kenwoodaudio.com/Gulf/prodDetails.asp?Cat=Car%20Entertainment&SubCat=Speakers&Model=KFC-WDA69RC

I think this is a portion of the market that needs to develop some more. No one makes 8" 6x9", 6.5", or 6x8" free-air subwoofers anymore. Now that amps have sub-sonic filters I think it is a viable option for people with sedans that don't want to use up trunk space. Since you would mount them directly to the rear deck they have a potential to get more sound into the cabin than a single 8" or 10" sub sitting in the trunk. If you set a subsonic filter at 25-30Hz they will perform quite nicely.

the_saint

01-20-2006, 02:39 PM

How about a pair of 6x9 powered subs?
http://www.kenwoodaudio.com/Gulf/prodDetails.asp?Cat=Car%20Entertainment&SubCat=Speakers&Model=KFC-WDA69RC
Are these things available in the US? I just googled 'WDA69RC' and it brought up links to sites from the UK.
And that number didn't turn up on ebay at all. (uhm)

pbdave

01-20-2006, 02:47 PM

haven't found much info on the 6x9 subs.

have found a lot of info on the Alpine unit & it's competing product from kenwood called the "w00x".

these are both billed as under-seat subs, but get remarkably high reviews online.

here is one test:
http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/S-1YBxmk4kJFB/reviews/20040413/bass_reviews.html?page=4

I am doing more reading on the w00x today & will post installed pics of both later on.

chuyler1

01-20-2006, 02:50 PM

Prolly not. I've never even heard of them and they are not listed on Kenwood's site if you choose USA as your country.

WhitewaterPearl

01-20-2006, 09:17 PM

Prolly not. I've never even heard of them and they are not listed on Kenwood's site if you choose USA as your country.
Many overseas web vendors will ship to North America some even show prices in US currency and accept credit card payments online.
Back in 1997-99 many of us Subaru "WRX wanna be's" purchased stuff directly from Japan, Australia, HK, UK and Germany all the time. It's just a matter of knowing exactly what you want and trusting who you are about to send your hard earned cash (bank draft) to.

I personally wouldn't hesitate to purchase from an overseas web site...but that's just me.