OEM Supercharged 323Fs/P5s from Switzerland

[TStar]

I've been investigating this little "secret" about the BJ series...

Mazda Switzerland has equipped/sold a few units of the 323F 2.0 (p5) with Superchargers, today I got the confirmation email about that "rumour" from Mazda CH.
I'll try to get some details about that baby....

I thought I should let you know (sun)

[Johnnybass]

I've been investigating this little "secret" about the BJ series...

Mazda Switzerland has equipped/sold a few units of the 323F 2.0 (p5) with Superchargers, today I got the confirmation email about that "rumour" from Mazda CH.
The model was called 323F GT and delivers 180PS at the engine.. I'll try to get some details about that baby....

I thought I should let you know (sun)


pleeease do!

[hookdupdelsol]

pleeease do!
(thumb)

[Prodigy]

whoa... sweet.


*subs*

[TStar]

some small update
name: 323F GT-R
power: 182 PS
equipped by: Baumann Speed (seems they're equipping the swiss mazda models frequently with this or that.. owner is Peter Baumann, 3183 Adliswil, Switzerland)
his cardomain adress HERE (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/571409)
e-mail.peter.baumann@willy-gruppe.ch
what he wrote on cardomain
I am Chefsales-Manager of Mazda Center Willy AG in Zürich.The Car is in Showroom Kondition,and my personal Car.Like the RX-8.If you have question
pleas e-mail.or ask Peter Baumann

i will try to track this down ^^

[Robot Romeo]

(ohsnap!)

[peepsalot]

cool

[anarchistchiken]

That cardomain page isn't very helpful. Lets get some details. Somebody go to Zurich, quickly.

[MyZmZm]

Subbin for more info...

[vindication]

awaiting more info

[SkinnyJoint]

badass

[Brian MP5T]

Sub

[khaosman]

Sub

scribble

[Djaries]

bring the mation

[Kansei]

awesome *subscribes* I wanna see how they fit the SC in

[aMaff]

sub-scrizzle fo shizzle

[macklum]

sub

[Lord_Zath]

Omg!

[SilverBulletES]

sub like a mofo

[Nutari]

I kinda like his van. pretty interesting.

the RX-7 is bad ass..

[AlbNYPR5]

Fo sheezy, subscreezy!

[Raganoo]

sub

[anarchistchiken]

You guys know you can subscribe to a thread without posting in it, right? Just click the "thread Tools" bar at the top of the page.

[AlbNYPR5]

You guys know you can subscribe to a thread without posting in it, right? Just click the "thread Tools" bar at the top of the page.

What fun would that be? Fo sho?

[justanotheradikt]

You guys know you can subscribe to a thread without posting in it, right? Just click the "thread Tools" bar at the top of the page.

seriously...no fun at all

[01bluemp3]

werd^^

[viVid]

I'll be in Europe this April, maybe I'll stop by and pick one up :)

[ebmp5]

i would like to see this baby

sub!!!

[wagoneer]

Ok guys theis is my first post. I did some research from this thread and here are my findings.

http://masaa.cool.ne.jp/fmazda/member/syoukai/masato/masato.html

...whatcha think. Is this possible?

[pingdum]

Ok guys theis is my first post. I did some research from this thread and here are my findings.

http://masaa.cool.ne.jp/fmazda/member/syoukai/masato/masato.html

...whatcha think. Is this possible?
Yes

[stdntDrvr]

now all we need is the info on the s/c

[wagoneer]

Yes

Well ok then. Can one of the more experienced guys get on this and keep us posted. Or is this old news? If it is my apologies...

I did an altavista babelfish translation and found the manu'fr to be Ricoh Racing. I've never heard of them but perhaps someone else has.

[azeli73]

I think what you found was not from Switzerland but Japan. Here is what I found:


http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.ricohracing.com/&prev=/search%3Fq%3DRicoh%2BRacing%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rl s%3DGGLG,GGLG:2005-33,GGLG:en

[azeli73]

Power Egg!!(ugh)

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.ricohracing.com/&prev=/search%3Fq%3DRicoh%2BRacing%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rl s%3DGGLG,GGLG:2005-33,GGLG:en

[Kansei]

Obtaining you probably smile, denouncing, it is good. Strange motor sound is the drug, it is the stimulant. The engine being broken, if it places and changes it is good, it is is.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://masaa.cool.ne.jp/fmazda/member/syoukai/masato/masato.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://masaa.cool.ne.jp/fmazda/member/syoukai/masato/masato.html%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3D G

[Kansei]

Hey since that SC must also replace the intake manifold where it is, that would mean no fear of loose screws for all! For some reason this is so exciting for me even though I'm satisfied with the power my car has with intake/header/catback/udp/intake_cam. I don't know what it is, superchargers just seem like safer and reliable things to me for some reason. Maybe it's just because they can be installed so cleanly.

Time for another awesome Japanese -> English translation quote.
...the similar type successor aircraft without coming out, the veteran still it is active service.

[SilverBulletES]

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://masaa.cool.ne.jp/fmazda/member/syoukai/masato/masato.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://masaa.cool.ne.jp/fmazda/member/syoukai/masato/masato.html%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3D G

I lived there a year and I still love those translations:

In my feeling, being to become fast not to be wrong it does, but you cannot explain the reason.

Effect? Honesty you do not understand.
In the car of the ???? attachment as for the effect it is doubt, but? Well, you remove being it is wasted.

Mr. Sparkle banish your power problems to the land of wind and ghosts!

[rednecks_r_us]

I want a right hand drive P5 with a supercharger.

[i12drivemyMP5]

Power egg appears to be same thing as adding 2-4 ounces of acetone to every 10 gallons of gas-it initiates complete combustion of the gas. I like the s/c setup on the ricoh racing link showing s/c on FSZE motor. Looks like it eliminates the strut tower bar though. I might actually consider doing this, with more research........somebody, anybody hurry & talk me out of it.

[vindication]

whoah, any info on that SC or the power output at what psi?

[azeli73]

the link states that the ford got 193. however I can't make out just how much of the supercharger is being used.

Translation: The next day power checking, according to of 193 horsepower target being 40 horsepower over, vis-a-vis normal 149 horsepower satisfactory!

[Pro5Monkey]

Ummm... I think this is it...

http://www.aai-racing.com.tw/Super%20Charger/Tierra.htm

[vindication]

ohh I remember seeing that thing

[aMaff]

*drool*

[macklum]

The kit looks great ,need to find pricing and avaliabilty . It looks like you get to keep your AC .

[peepsalot]

Ummm... I think this is it...

http://www.aai-racing.com.tw/Super%20Charger/Tierra.htm
I'm no doctor, but I think that intake manifold has a tumor.

[Pro5Monkey]

The kit looks great ,need to find pricing and avaliabilty . It looks like you get to keep your AC .

One post here says $4,500? OUCH!.....

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb222/showthread.php?t=35342&page=3&pp=15

[Lord_Zath]

Obtaining you probably smile, denouncing, it is good. Strange motor sound is the drug, it is the stimulant.

[Reffoxel]

Power egg appears to be same thing as adding 2-4 ounces of acetone to every 10 gallons of gas-it initiates complete combustion of the gas. I like the s/c setup on the ricoh racing link showing s/c on FSZE motor. Looks like it eliminates the strut tower bar though. I might actually consider doing this, with more research........somebody, anybody hurry & talk me out of it.

Never heard of the adding of acetone. I've heard of adding some other industrial solvent (can't remember the name) but if it's what I'm thinking that's just to raise the octane level of your fuel (ie. homebrew race fuel). And definitely not something you want to leave in you fuel system very long, as it will eat away at gaskets and seals.

what this thing seems to be is like those silly magnet things sold over here that wrap around your fuel line that supposively ionizes the fuel and enables it to burn more effeceintly. And it looks like you drop this ceramic ball that has some rare earth metal into your tank and then after 100,000 Kilometers you fish it out with a magnet on a string and replace it with a new one. It's suppose to improve power and gas mileage.

[Brian MP5T]

^^^ Adding a metal ball? What a crock...

[BradC]

Never heard of the adding of acetone. I've heard of adding some other industrial solvent (can't remember the name) but if it's what I'm thinking that's just to raise the octane level of your fuel (ie. homebrew race fuel).
Thinking of Toulene?

[POSEIDON]

^^^ Adding a metal ball? What a crock...


Yeah, I've seen these as well. People actually do that shit. It's mind numbing. I'm sure we've all seen these for your factory airbox..

http://i11.ebayimg.com/01/i/05/ag/7c/bf_1.JPG

[POSEIDON]

Thinking of Toulene?

Xylene as well.

[Djaries]

Never heard of the adding of acetone. I've heard of adding some other industrial solvent (can't remember the name) but if it's what I'm thinking that's just to raise the octane level of your fuel (ie. homebrew race fuel). And definitely not something you want to leave in you fuel system very long, as it will eat away at gaskets and seals.

Its called toulene and its pure octane if you add about 10% to your gas it just increases the octane level

[Reffoxel]

Yep that's the ticket.

Thinking of Toulene?

[i12drivemyMP5]

Go to smartgas.net & read up. I'm not looking to raise octane levels, my car does not need it. I'm talkin about more mileage & less carbon build up from unburnt fuel (wasted fuel). I'm getting 50-75 miles more a tank depending on driving habits which is about a $4.50 - $6.00 rebate on every tank at current prices ($2.10 a gallon for regular). The more gas costs the more money this saves me. The gallon of acetone costs approx $14.00 & there are approx 25 tanks in that gallon at the rate of 4-5 ounces in 14 gallons of gas. 25 X 4.50 - 6.00 = $112.50 - $150.00 of savings that the gallon of acetone generates so it turns $14.00 into $112.50 - $150.00 or more if tamer driving habits are utilized. Getting 9-10x returns on your investments many other places these days? My tailpipe is not sooty carbon black either so I'm guessing this also might slow the egr clogging issues these cars have. We'll see. I'm well aware of the other little octane raising tricks. That would be silly for this vehicle & not what I'm doing.

[pingdum]

Try this: Acetone Thread (http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120640)

[misbehave]

sub sub

[SlowPro98]

I can't be the only one who noticed that it's an AWD sport 20? that thing must be awesome!

[misbehave]

I can't be the only one who noticed that it's an AWD sport 20? that thing must be awesome!

They have it in Japan since long time ago.
The body/fender is also different than a regular Protege.

[TStar]

hm got some new,different info from that huge swiss mazda dealer

they said that this company was responsible for the supercharger installations

Bemani Motorenbau AG
Industriestrasse 5
5712 Beinwil am See

062 771 07 55 Tel.
062 771 42 86 Fax

unfortunately they got no email, ah,maybe i'll send a fax or so

[justanotheradikt]

sweet! keep us updated!

[jonlong]

subscribing

[SlowPro98]

Would any of the board member who speak Japanese be willing to open a dialog with the author of that webpage?

I would love to see some more pictures of the intake manifold, maybe some underside shots to see the awd, the transfer case and axles, his exhaust set up, his ecu (is it piggy backed? oem? etc), How hard was it to do? how much did it cost, did he have to alter the hood or hinges to make it all fit?

Shit, ask if they want to join the board so we can bask in the beauty of their supercharger

[flat_black]

That's actually Tiwanese, and the other one is in German, based out of Switzerland. Some other parts of Switzerland speak Dutch, but these guys do German, it looks like.

http://www.bemani.ch/

Looks like there's two options. The Tiwanese one looks pretty pricey, but the whole new manifold is pretty substantial of a project.

My bet is that they used this supercharger:

http://www.magnusonproducts.com/images/mp62sc.jpg

Like they did on the Focus.

[Dimitrios]

mmm...twin screw S/C....

They mention they use Magnuson as their Eaton supplier:
http://www.magnusonproducts.com/superchargers.htm, with the MP62 above: http://www.magnusonproducts.com/mp62.htm

They're in Ventura, CA:
Magnuson Products, Inc.
1990 Knoll Drive
Ventura, CA 93003
(805) 642-8833- Phone
(805) 677-4897 - Fax
Hours: M-F 8:30AM-5:00PM (PST)
www.MagnusonProducts.com (http://www.magnusonproducts.com/) - Web Site

Their Australian counterparts are here:
http://www.harrop.com.au/products/superchargers.html


Eaton: http://www.automotive.eaton.com/product/engine_controls/superchargers/index.asp

[POSEIDON]

still rather have a womp set-up..

[Kooldino]

still rather have a womp set-up..
womp womp womp womp.

Why?

[Dimitrios]

still rather have a womp set-up..

I'm going to bite my tongue so hard on that..........(deadhorse

[twilightprotege]

still rather have a womp set-up..

i'd rather keep air conditioning thanks!

[Prodigy]

womp > jesus

[POSEIDON]

i'd rather keep air conditioning thanks!

(A) More monkey power

(B) Actually exists..Well, more than that at least.

(C) AC is for pussies since I've never actually used mine

(D) It's release date is so far in the future, it gives me time to save for a new car.

[viVid]

Weapon of Mass Propulsion = Vaporware

Maybe y'all should get a Leadfoot bezel too - they'll probably both be done about the same time :)

(poke)

[POSEIDON]

Weapon of Mass Propulsion = Vaporware

Maybe y'all should get a Leadfoot bezel too - they'll probably both be done about the same time :)

(poke)


Hey, I have a leadfoot cluster..

and WOMP has just had major delays. You doing that yourself..

[viVid]

Congrats... you're half way there then! :)

[chicaboo]

Yeah, us Australians (twilight and I) are pussies cos we want a/c for 80-110F days hey?
I'm not a fan of having the supercharger behind the engine, but I don't like the WOMP position for it either (expensive in a front ender...). I'd much rather see a torque bar across the front to use the space in front of the gearbox, I don't mind losing 5hp from a torque bar setup...
The Taiwan/Japanese and German/Nederlands setups seem ok, and all we need is the IM and mounting hardware, and we can buy the EMS, pulleys and M45/M62 screw locally. No reason it can't be done if most the work has been done already...

Chicaboo.

[POSEIDON]

Congrats... you're half way there then! :)

Yeah, you can choke on that saracasm.

[POSEIDON]

Yeah, us Australians (twilight and I) are pussies cos we want a/c for 80-110F days hey?
I'm not a fan of having the supercharger behind the engine, but I don't like the WOMP position for it either (expensive in a front ender...). I'd much rather see a torque bar across the front to use the space in front of the gearbox, I don't mind losing 5hp from a torque bar setup...
The Taiwan/Japanese and German/Nederlands setups seem ok, and all we need is the IM and mounting hardware, and we can buy the EMS, pulleys and M45/M62 screw locally. No reason it can't be done if most the work has been done already...

Chicaboo.

I live in florida. Yes, you are pussies. <3

[rednecks_r_us]

I live in AZ I need AC.

You want to know how our summers feel. Turn on your oven to 120 degrees and crawl in and close the door behind you.

[Prodigy]

Just drive faster... with the windows down.

[peepsalot]

I live in AZ I need AC.

You want to know how our summers feel. Turn on your oven to 120 degrees and crawl in and close the door behind you.
Hot and dry is not so bad. At least when you sweat, there is a purpose to it. Hot and humid is the worst.

[chicaboo]

That is our heat, hot and humid, FL is no worse than Brisbane, it's very similar, a pinch cooler even.

[status50]

womp > jesus

Jesus once lived.. Womp lived once too.. One car, one person and 5 or so people out there money..

[status50]

(A) More monkey power

Only a dumb monkey would buy something like that..




(B) Actually exists..Well, more than that at least.

Like Jesus



(C) AC is for pussies since I've never actually used mine

You should just buy a horse then. No AC and you will actually get it.




(D) It's release date is so far in the future, it gives me time to save for a new car.
When Jesus comes to save us.

[misbehave]

(A) More monkey power

(B) Actually exists..Well, more than that at least.

(C) AC is for pussies since I've never actually used mine

(D) It's release date is so far in the future, it gives me time to save for a new car.


er... Do you use any antiperspirant or deodorant regularly?(boom07)

[i12drivemyMP5]

If AC is for pussies then why did you buy a car that even has it on there? Might want to take it off so you aren't driving the same pussy car that you're trying to bust on. Yeah "it's for pussies" means women love it when you take them somewhere & they don't have to sweat the whole time which means you get some pussy. Guess your palm doesn't mind going without AC. No AC would be great in places without summer or on a race car. Unless one or more of those conditions exist then you're just making excuses for something else.

[anarchistchiken]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. People on this forum have literally no sense of humor.

[macklum]

has this ever gotten off topic . started out about a supercharger system ,then fuel additive ,now AC or the lack of . how about getting this back to the topic of the post and deleting all the post not on topic .

[pingdum]

has this ever gotten off topic . started out about a supercharger system ,then fuel additive ,now AC or the lack of . how about getting this back to the topic of the post and deleting all the post not on topic .
When I went to buy my 5, the salesman tried to charge me xtra for AC. "All right," I said, "Show me one that doesn't have AC. That shut him up quick.(poke)

[Prodigy]

Jesus once lived.. Womp lived once too.. One car, one person and 5 or so people out there money..
THEIR (thumb)

[TStar]

so today i sent a fax to bemani... let's see if i get an answer and what the content may be...

[SlowPro98]

so today i sent a fax to bemani... let's see if i get an answer and what the content may be...

awesome (thumb)

[Dimitrios]

I emailed Harrop a few days ago; got a reply just a bit ago. Perhaps someone in Australia with a 323 or anything else with an FSDE 2.0 or other variant can help out?



Dimitrios...

Thanks for your Mazda supercharger kit enquiry.

At this time we do not have a kit-type solution for the Mazda range.

We have been concentrating our development & engineering on the larger
Chevrolet & Ford engines, however we have begun the design of our some
of our other solutions and intend to release them during the next year.
One of our significant challenges is the availability of engine data and
the ability of installers to integrate the supercharger into the engine
management and calibration systems.

We will keep you informed as we continue to develop a comprehensive
range of kits.

Regards ...
Ken L. Nunn, General Manager, Harrop Engineering Australia

My mail via their website:


-----Original Message-----
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
Dimitrios (dsaranteas@owc.net) on Saturday, January 7, 2006 at 08:51:30
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Dimitrios

subject_text: Mazda 323 2.0L supercharger

message:

Hello,

I'm a member of an online forum called MSprotege.com
(http://www.msprotege.com). There has been a grassroots effort over the
past year to build a supercharger for the 2.0L (and possibly 1.8 and 1.6
FS and BP engine variants) available in the US (known as Proteges here,
323/323F, Familia/Sport20s, elsewhere). The grassroots project has had
many delays, it is of unproven reliability, and is based on a
centrifugal s/c that requires the removal of "creature comforts", such
as the air conditioning compressor. Needless to say, a market exists for
this vehicle and it's variants for a reliable, supported, product (much
like the Jackson Supercharger kits available in the US for other makes).

The grassroots effort information can be had here:

Recently, this thread was created on the MS Protege boards, renewing
much more interest:

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123620914 (with
discussions going back to 2003:
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23987) and
http://www.clubprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21547&highlight=superc
harger, in which the setups may actually be OEM,. The threads were begun
by a member in Germany, along with foreign projects such as these to add
fuel to the discussion:

323F Supercharged:
http://masaa.cool.ne.jp/fmazda/member/syoukai/masato/masato.html

and

Tawainese install on a Ford Tierra:

http://www.aai-racing.com.tw/Super%20Charger/Tierra.htm

There are even kits for the 1.8L BP Miata:

http://www.kennebell.net/superchargers/mazda/miata/miata.htm

http://www.gomiata.com/vfenmisu.html

http://www.jacksonracing.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=38403

http://www.flyinmiata.com/projects/ubercharger.asp

(with the Miata/MX-5 certainly having less room than a
323/Familia/Protege; I don't believe physical room is a concern.

That said, there appears to be some connection between Harrop, Magunson,
and Bemani of Swtizerland: http://www.bemani.ch/english/home_en.htm

I would imagine that the feasiblity of such a product is not an issue,
as it has been done. Would your company have any information about this,
so should we contact someone else? Please advise as the interest is
great for the right marketer of such an item.

Regards,
Dimitrios

[chicaboo]

Updates? Bump.

[TStar]

nothing *sigh*

[Dimitrios]

*ahem*
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2216658&postcount=93

[TXMazdaSpeeder]

http://masaa.cool.ne.jp/fmazda/member/syoukai/masato/masato7.jpg


is it just me or does that look like a greddy emanage in front of the shifter?

[Undercover]

that sad....

[Dimitrios]

(bump)

[65racecoupe]

http://masaa.cool.ne.jp/fmazda/member/syoukai/masato/masato7.jpg


is it just me or does that look like a greddy emanage in front of the shifter?

That yellow supercharged P5 looks really cool.

[TStar]

time to dig out that thread..maybe some of you people could send a fax to bemani as well.. maybe they start reacting when they get more inquiries..

[Dimitrios]

TStar, have you/can you tracked down any part numbers for all this?

[TStar]

well, my previous statement says it all :-\

[Dimitrios]

I sent another email as I will be in Zurich and then Athens next week. It's a crap shoot, but I'd be willing to have stuff shipped to Athens and then bring home if at all possible.

I also emailed "Peter Baumann" off the first page and it bounced back.

[Brian MP5T]

Turbo...

http://media.putfile.com/MP5T-Ricer-Flyby

SC

http://media.putfile.com/SS-SC-Ricer-Flyby

(sssh)

[nate0123]

now that's some major SC whine

[pnfnj]

Damn you!!!!!!!!!! i love the sound of that car.(headbang)

[Crazee D]

(whine) "I Want FI TOO!!" (/whine)

[Kansei]

I've been whining about SCs for months now. I want one a lot but don't have the knowledge, skills, time, or energy to do what Brian has been doing with his 944. Someone make me a kit or I'll be forced (pun intended) to go FI with a turbo.

I'm a HUGE fan of the SC whine when paired with a nice exhaust to balance it out. Don't want to sound like an electric car or anything.

[samm5149]

[QUOTE=POSEIDON]
(C) AC is for pussies since I've never actually used mine
QUOTE]

well for those of us who live in HOT florida we NEED it.....especialy during summer!

[Kansei]

(C) AC is for pussies since I've never actually used mine


well for those of us who live in HOT florida we NEED it.....especialy during summer!

He does live in Florida.

[misbehave]

[quote=samm5149]

He does live in Florida.

Was he born in an oven?

[Breeegz]

he's just not a pussy...


lol

I can think of a few places hotter than FL... and most are in the middle east (been there, done that 120 heat index)

[Breeegz]

in november

[StealthWyvern]

well for those of us who live in HOT florida we NEED it.....especialy during summer!

We do...? This is news to me! This is my first car with A/C and ive lived in Texas, Cali, Las Vegas, New Mexico and I can keep going, but you get the oint. (Moved around way to much) Don't get me wroung I love my A/C now that I have it.

[chicaboo]

Bumpegé5...

[Brian MP5T]

More Bump

[P5inder]

SC whine > BOV sound... period.

Only if I had the $$ and they actually manufactured a proper SC kit for the P5......:(

[Kansei]

SC whine > BOV sound... period.

Only if I had the $$ and they actually manufactured a proper SC kit for the P5......:(

Yeah it's one of very few things for this car that aren't available at this point.. and probably won't ever be :(

I really wanted to supercharge with a nice yummy roots blower but oh well :(

[protegeric]

someone heer on the forum has a supercharged P5... man, i cant remember hoo. but there`s a protege supercharger out there, that one wont work?

Yeah it's one of very few things for this car that aren't available at this point.. and probably won't ever be :(

I really wanted to supercharge with a nice yummy roots blower but oh well :(

[Kansei]

someone heer on the forum has a supercharged P5... man, i cant remember hoo. but there`s a protege supercharger out there, that one wont work?

SuperMattyP or something like that was his name before he was banned on here. He got about 160whp nonintercooled. It forces a removal of the A/C... well his did because it wasn't a roots intercooler.

[protegeric]

there u go... and yeah the protege supercharger makes u remove the A/C, yeah... hmm... i dont know then... get a small block chevy...

SuperMattyP or something like that was his name before he was banned on here. He got about 160whp nonintercooled. It forces a removal of the A/C... well his did because it wasn't a roots intercooler.

[turbo fs-2.0]

I rahter get the roots type one and keep the a/c like the one from Taiwan it bolts to the intake side of the head!

[Lord_Zath]

The s/c that matty was developing (The WOMP) required the AC to be removed.

There are others that don't.

[Donas64]

subbin

[Demoniam]

yo quiero p5 supercharger..

I'll trade one of my nuts for one!



no seriously...1 kid is all I want....Supercharge my p5 and you choose which nut you want!

(sub)

[kableguy]

Children suck(smash) , you can have both of my nuts for a s/c P5!! (yippy)

[Crazee D]

Back from the DEAD... again

[Dimitrios]

To put the Mazda in Switzerland "rumours" to rest. Email from info@mazda.ch, Monday, 5/7/2007, on my inquiry per the same:


Dear Dimitrios,

Yes, the US Protégé was the 323F in Europe and Familia in Asia.

Concerning supercharger for this model, it is true that a supercharger version was developed by an independent Swiss tuner for the 2.0 engine and that a few cars were converted by customers. To our knowledge, this was no kit, but a modification done by the tuner. This was no official version sold by Mazda (Suisse). Still to our knowledge, the tuner is no longer converting 323's.

With best regards

The Mazda Team


WOMP 4evar

[aMaff]

pwn4g3

[Crazee D]

Well that sure helped....NOT!

Wish they had offerred some real info.
Like what "swiss tuner" and some tech data would be nice.

[Maxx Mazda]

SUpercharged 323's are sweet!

[aMaff]

Well that sure helped....NOT!

Wish they had offerred some real info.
Like what "swiss tuner" and some tech data would be nice.
jerks.

[arcane73]

found this earlier...
http://www.autocoast.com/MazdaSpeedClubRides.htm
scroll down to the laser blue p5....i can't say for sure but it seems to have an alabama tag on it.....but if anyone is serious enough about it...you may be able to contact someone via the email link at the bottom of the page

[nate0123]

found this earlier...
http://www.autocoast.com/MazdaSpeedClubRides.htm
scroll down to the laser blue p5....i can't say for sure but it seems to have an alabama tag on it.....but if anyone is serious enough about it...you may be able to contact someone via the email link at the bottom of the pagethat's the same guy that was developing the WOMP kit, no idea what the status of that is now, I stopped watching a while back

[aMaff]

Unfortunately, that project's been dead for a while. That's MattyPs ride.

[Lord_Zath]

yup it's dead.

[Dimitrios]

Well that sure helped....NOT!

Wish they had offerred some real info.
Like what "swiss tuner" and some tech data would be nice.

They're the OEM; it's not like they're going to keep track of every modifier/tuner out there, much less support it, even further less provide hard tech data.

I agree on which Swiss Tuner; I'll shoot them another email.

That'd be like saying Chevy would have fully supported Yanko modifieds with a warranty and performance numbers.

[Dimitrios]

Well that sure helped....NOT!

Wish they had offerred some real info.
Like what "swiss tuner" and some tech data would be nice.

So, I get a random email today in reply to my 4 week old reply where they stated it was a turbocharger in lieu of a supercharger.

That said:


Dear Mr. Saranteas,

You are indeed correct, it was a supercharger. We did ask some dealers who had cars transformed for their customers at the time. It appears that, according to their testimony 12 cars were transformed, of which, still according to the dealers, more than half experienced technical problems.

The firm offering the kit and transformation was Wittwer Motorsport in Arbon (Switzerland).

Since it's a long time ago, we don't know if it still is available.

We hope this answers your question

With best regards
The Mazda Team
info@mazda.ch


Now, doing a quick Google yield mostly two relevant links:


http://www.ssi-switzerland.ch/Shops/Shopost.html

Happy Divers
Hr. Wittwer Hans Ruedi
Stickereistr. 6 / Postfach 232
9320 Arbon

Tel 071-446 26 76
Email: wittwer-motorsport@bluewin.ch


Further down the Google results:


http://www.z-engineering.com/Einbaupartner.htm

Wittwer Motorsport in Arbon entwickelte und vertreibt einen Kompressorkitsatz für den Mazda 323F und den Mazda 6, unter Verwendung des Z-Engineering Kompressor ZR2. Wittwer vertreibt ebenfalls unseren Kitsatz für den Mazda MX5


(Translation from German [edited for grammar/paraphrasing]:

Wittwer Motorsport in Arbon have developed and a compressor kit set out for the Mazda 323F and the Mazda 6, using Z-Engineering compressor ZR2.
Wittwer is developing a kit for the Mazda MX5 using our product.


Therefore, this assumes that Z Engineering provided Wittwer with the compressor and/or other technology to develop the kit [for the 323/323F].

Going to Z Engineering's page (in German) would then prompt the user for the English speaking brethren amongst us:

http://www.z-engineering.com/engl/Index_en.htm:


Dear customer,

Thank you for your interest in our products!

From now on, MC Racing is the responsible distributor of our supercharger products into all "english speaking countries".

Please visit the Homepage of MC Racing for further informations"


The MC Racing URL yields this page, which is all VW it would seem:
http://www.supercharger.ch

Trying to get more information the Ruf Kompressor in Google (and Mazda):
http://www.google.com/search?q=Ruf+Kompressor+mazda&btnG=Search&hl

So I sent an email to MC Racing (forwarded my Mazda Switzerland email to them along with a link to this thread). Their reply:


hello dimitrios

mc racing did never suppy superchargers for the mazda 323/protege model.
we had kits for the mx-5 model (nb-model) several years ago.

we will shortly bring back the superchargerkit for the mazda mx-5 (nb model) as a summer revival.

i want to state clear that we do not have anything to do with the mentioned tuner stated in the e-mail of mazda switzerland.
we do not have any relationship with wittwer motorsport.

our supercharger systems have to successfuly prove a test of quality on different cars before we do release them.

kind regards,
mirco calzolari
mc racing


That's all kids!!!

WOMP luv fo'evah

[Crazee D]

Argh!