Tuning and Warrenty

[FX-MAN]

I had a Toyota Celica, the dealership put in an AEM CAI, Hotshot Header, and TRD Exhaust (now that's toyota part, so that one they were obviously OK with), and a lightweight flywheel... They said my warrenty was fine since they did all the work.

Will Mazda do intake and exhaust on the MS6 (once they become availible)? Or do you guys think that would void the warrenty?

[JOMO]

most likely it will void the warrenty. Mazda will blame aftermarket intakes for blown speakers. Happened to a friend of mine.

[maltodextrin]

Null and Void.

[Da 6]

It all depends on dealership and their comfort level. If you come off as soneone who just randomly threw parts on the car they might be a lil leary vs. someone who somewhat comes off as someone with basic or better knowledge of cars.

[Killer]

My opinion is warranty and mods are dealer specific. Just ask before you mod, or find a dealer that is mod friendly.

[Da 6]

Some issues also might require you to go back stock ;) Not nessesarly to hide anything, but some troubleshooting requires stock parts.

[seanmcsean]

most likely it will void the warrenty. Mazda will blame aftermarket intakes for blown speakers. Happened to a friend of mine.


(boom07) that makes no sense

[Da 6]

Thas a mitsu tactic! mazda dealerships aren't usualy that anal with a pine tree air freshener mirror modification.

[JOMO]

(boom07) that makes no sense
I know it makes no sense. But that happened to a friend of mine. He went in for blown door speaker, but they refused to fix it under warrenty because he had a cai. so he went to another dealership and they took care of it. Im not making it up, no point, just saying the excuses that they come up with.

[dabears2k]

doesn't matter. Under the magnussen-moss act, a dealer cannot void your warranty unless they can ABSOLUTELY prove that THE SPECIFIC part in question caused the failure. Either find a mod-friendly dealership or mention the magnussen-moss act to your dealer of choice if they give you any problems.

[-pixy-]

(boom07) that makes no sense

yes it does. because of the added sound of the CAI he needed to turn up the stereo beyond its design capacity. if he did not have a CAI he would not have had the volume so loud and would not have blown a speaker.
:p

[seanmcsean]

ah, thank you pixy-san (rei)

[-pixy-]

no problem :)

[FX-MAN]

There is an awesome rally shop (they tune mostly Subaru) about an hour north of me, with an AWD dyno. They said they could do a custom exhaust job based on their custom STi application and estimate I would get about 10% increase in torque to the wheels (so like 22lbs/ft I guess?)

What could go wrong related to swapping stock for custom exhaust? I have had an aftermarket exhaust in every car I have owned in the last 15 years, but never had a custom exhaust done.

[Rainman]

My dealer actually sponsored some of my mods for a local car show. Everything on my MSP the dealer is aware of and I have not had any issues with warranty claims.

R

[TampaSport20]

There is an awesome rally shop (they tune mostly Subaru) about an hour north of me, with an AWD dyno. They said they could do a custom exhaust job based on their custom STi application and estimate I would get about 10% increase in torque to the wheels (so like 22lbs/ft I guess?)

What could go wrong related to swapping stock for custom exhaust? I have had an aftermarket exhaust in every car I have owned in the last 15 years, but never had a custom exhaust done.

One reason turbo cars do so well with exhaust upgrades is that it usually allows the turbo to spool quicker and at a higher boost level, even with everything else at stock settings....

the added power can be used as an excuse by the dealer for a failure in anything from the turbo system to the engine to the drivetrain......

[Da 6]

Speed 6 it would show Positive #'s, non Speed 6 would show Negative #'s cause the headers and unexplained crush bent piping are the restriction on the 6s. 6i had no major restrictions on exhaust side.

[Nando 6i]

Speed 6 it would show Positive #'s, non Speed 6 would show Negative #'s cause the headers and unexplained crush bent piping are the restriction on the 6s. 6i had no major restrictions on exhaust side.


Is there a link where it shows what dealers are mod friendly through out US?
Is it true that if your car is ever caught driving on the streets with mazdaspeed performance parts you would get either your car towed or fined?

[Da 6]

search any site that sells mazdaspeed 6 intake and it will come up as mazdaspeed orange=not street legal

[forrestt]

Is it true that if your car is ever caught driving on the streets with mazdaspeed performance parts you would get either your car towed or fined?

Where did you read or hear this?

The only time you'll possibly have a problem is at inspection time - it may fail the visual and/or emissions portions of the inspection..

[smo0f]

you dont ever get your car towed, you just fail inspection, then you get tickets for driving it with a failed inspection outside of the allotted time they give you after the inspection. unless you drive a car that's just blowing out herpes, terrorists, or a lot of black smoke out of the exhaust, or can be heard within a radius of 2 miles, no one is gonna bother you

[FX-MAN]

lol.... towed :)

I have a mazdaspeed car... I am in trouble.. tehee

[Da 6]

if a chevy impala or Ford police intercepter can cetch your mazdaspeed, you deserve the tow ;) I had cars bellowing smoke into my car thru the A/C when I was in texas and they didn't get towed. If you voluntarly pop the hood then thats on you. Mazdaspeed intake isn't CARB(Street legal) Most intakes aren't cause of the costs to get each application CARB stamped. I heard of everything up to evo owners getting tickets for their factory wings but only case I heard was in NY with a dodge neon and a Iceman intake where he voluntarly poped the hood for the cop.

[FX-MAN]

Actually, I had a '78 impalla from a police auction (my first car.. it cost me $250US). That Chevy V8 350 pulls pretty frickin hard. I don't know. I used to tell people to grab something out of the back seat, and when they would unstrap to and lean over the bench seat, I would floor it and dump them into the back seat. I could lift the front wheels off the line. I have been trying to get BACK to that feeling for years. Don't knock US Muscle unless you have driven one. They go REALLY fast in a straight line.

Down side of Muscle cars is that you end up with about 8miles to the gallon...

[Da 6]

See Black Panther in sig below ;) I actualy get better MPG than the 6i. Both cars have been modded and had warenty stuff done. Depends on dealer and what you modded. When I reflash the pcm on the other car it just looks like I pulled the negative cable.

[SVOGT]

Actually, I had a '78 impalla from a police auction. I could lift the front wheels off the line.
What did you have, 20 manhole covers in the truck or a lot of LSD? (hah)

[FX-MAN]

lol... no... I had a supercharged DC police spec V8 350 (350ci 5.7 litre) small block Chevy engine (thumb) the same engine you would find in Mustangs, Corvettes and Camaros back then, a '78 man, we are talking REAL classic muscle (I would think you would understand, being a "ford man"). W/O a supercharger the 8.5:1 compression 78 Chevy V8 would put out 350bhp. We had no dyno back then to test this thing on, but the closest thing I have felt to that pull I would have to say is my friends tuned to 400hp STi, when you consider weight/hp I would guess that my impala was putting at least 400hp to the road.

In highschool, I beat a brand new '91 turbo camaro by about 5 car lengths on our 1/4 mile stretch. I have never owned a car since that comes close to it in a straight line.

My point was... that police cars are made to catch just about anything, so think twice before you go thinking you can outrun one in your speed6. Those of us who live in Vancouver BC can (or could?) go race them at boundary bay to see how fast these guys are.

Since that 78 impalla was my first car, and I paid almost nothing for it, I didn't even appreciate how nice it was. My neighbor had a superbee he built from the ground up that could take me pretty easily, but he was never able to get his to be street legal. so other than that... nope...

I am getting all nostalgic thinking about that car. It stopped going in reverse when I was a Sr. in highschool.. then I jumped it on this road where you could catch serious air, and on the landing lost the front bumper and the exhaust (impalla not so good for jumping). I got hit by a backhoe backing out of a construction site (where we used to go to do donuts, and mess around.. my buddy rolled his car there once). The backhoe nearly ripped off the rear bumper. I spray painted the car for fun one afternoon... My best friend put balogna on it in the winter (which eats away the paint), so when that car finally died on me (it needed a new tranny, which would have cost more than the accord I ended up buying) it had polkadots on camo spray paint, no front bumper, a loose rear bumper, and an exhaust held on by coat hangers. It was a great engine though, and nicknamed "Mad Max" by my school friends, since it looked like something from that movie ;)

Trying to get that kind of power back, was why I got into tuning my cars.

LOL... and come to think of it I DID have cinderblocks in the trunk to get some extra weight on the rear tires to keep them from spinning (I couldn't afford good tires) ;)

Anyway the speed6 is much better if you have to turn...

[Da 6]

My point was... that police cars are made to catch just about anything, so think twice before you go thinking you can outrun one in your speed6.

LOL it was a joke! Don't really do that cause you actualy can out run the car but not the radio or choppers ;) but the specs are as follows for S&G

http://www.allpar.com/squads/police-cars/charger-police-testing.html

[FX-MAN]

Yeah, that's '05 numbers. The 3.9 litre V6 in the new impala is in no way a match for the V8 in the old ones.... (and I assumed it was a joke :P ) .

Even the American muscle cars of today (like the new Hemi Charger) don't come close to what an old 480hp Dodge Superbee Hemi Charger could do.

[FX-MAN]

Back on topic. Has anyone done a custom exhaust on a speed6 yet?

[JDM Sam]

AEM Intake is pending release.
DC possibly has a exhaust too.

[Rainman]

Back on topic. Has anyone done a custom exhaust on a speed6 yet?

I am hoping to price a custom exhaust in the next few weeks.

R

[FX-MAN]

Awesome. I have a shop willing to do a custom Magnaflow setup for me, but I am not sure I want a Magnaflow exhaust and with the small problems I have had pop up with the car over the last little while, I would like to keep my warrenty. Which means custom might not be an option. I need to find something Mazda would be willing to install. (which probably rules out Turbo Back as well).

[BlkZoomZoom]

Have you seen the exhaust yet? It's pretty much a straight shot to the back. I don't see anybody coming out with anything than a cat-back as the cat is shoved up right off the turbo. A new y-pipe and some mufflers will probably make it sound pretty good though.

[Da 6]

black out the fake tips and have real ones

[FX-MAN]

Yeah, I think those fake tips are the driving force for a lot of people who want exhaust, they wouldn't be so bad if the real tips were sitting farther back like they do on the RX-8 so you can't see them right away.

I really want to open up the throttle response though, I don't care too much about power gains (although it's always nice to see some). Looks like AEM intake is out any day now according to a guy who sells AEM parts on another board, and someone has put a modden 6s Injen intake in their MS6 http://forum.***************/index.php?showtopic=45412. I want to see if Mazda will install the AEM for me (the CAI puts the filter right where the current resonator is, so it shouldn't even significantly raise the risk of getting Hydrolock).

Then I guess just wait on a real exhaust with dyno numbers.