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mikeyb
11-16-2005, 10:52 AM
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=100 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=3>http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_45/car_portal_pic_22590.jpg (javascript:self.close())</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3>Striking nose of the Geneva show car has been carried over intact to Honda's new hatchback
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=100 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=3>http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_45/car_portal_pic_22591.jpg (javascript:self.close())</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3>With its sweeping lines, new Civic is radical departure from its plain-looking predecessor</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=100 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=3>http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_45/car_portal_pic_22592.jpg (javascript:self.close())</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3>Bold looks continue inside, and cabin is spacious, too</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=100 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=3>http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_45/car_portal_pic_22593.jpg (javascript:self.close())</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3>It's not only the Civic's exterior that stands out; the cabin is equally radical. Featuring twin digital dash displays (left) - one for the speedometer, the other for the rev counter - as well as high-quality plastics and lots of space front and rear (right), it's a brilliant place in which to spend time.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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It's the car that everyone is desperate to drive - and Auto Express has done exactly that! We are the first UK magazine to jump behind the wheel of Honda's radical new Civic - a machine that promises to shake up the compact family hatchback sector when it goes on sale in January.

Ever since the Japanese maker took the wraps off the striking Civic Concept at the Geneva Motor Show in March, excitement about the car's impending launch has been building. Many thought Honda would never put such a daring-looking model into production, but when the official pictures were released in August, barely a detail had changed.

Now we've driven it, the big questions are as follows: Is the Civic a new class leader? Or is it all show and no go? There's only one way to find out!

While its predecessor was a worthy family car, it looked mundane. But the new Civic couldn't be more different. Away from the glitz of a motor show, the dramatic wedge-like profile really stands out. The first thing that hits you is the sporty, low front end and bold one-piece plastic grille, behind which the headlamps and Honda badge are encased.

A deep air intake, flanked by triangular spotlights, completes the Civic's chiselled nose. Rear door handles hidden in the C-pillar and a rising waistline draw you to the tail, which is dominated by a spoiler that splits the screen, and angular light clusters. In terms of design, this is the only area of weakness - it appears fussy - although overall the car looks fantastic. The Civic stands out in any company; and against rivals such as the Ford Focus, Vauxhall Astra and VW Golf, it's truly futuristic. Not even SEAT's Leon can compete for visual drama.

Designers often tend to run out of steam when they get to the interior, but this hasn't been the case at Honda. The sweeping dashboard features twin digi-tal displays and includes lots of neat details, such as the red starter button, a gearlever that sprouts from a silver metal ball and alloy pedals.

Build quality is superb, with classy plastics and solid-feeling buttons - particularly the rotary knob mounted on the centre console. This is similar to BMW's iDrive controller, and operates the optional satellite navigation. The cabin is neatly arranged, with ventilation switches located close to the driver.

Unlike most replacement models, the Civic hasn't grown in size. In fact, it's slightly shorter than its predecessor, and is lower by 35mm. However, interior space doesn't suffer, since the width has risen by 65mm.

There's bags of room for passengers, while mounting the fuel tank centrally under the front seats makes space for a lower rear bench. Squeezing three adults into the back could be a struggle, though, particularly if they are tall. A compact rear suspension layout has helped increase boot capacity. The load area is vast, and features a


twin height floor, giving a maximum g figure of 485 litres - that's 100 litres more than in the Focus. Versatility is further boosted by rear seats which fold flat simply and quickly, with a clever mechanism inspired by that found on the firm's Jazz supermini.


So the Civic is certainly practical, yet it also promises to be very safe. Honda is expecting a five-star Euro NCAP crash test rating, thanks to its stiff new body structure, while front, side and curtain airbags are fitted as standard, along with traction and stability control. But what's the new Honda like to drive?

From the moment you turn the ignition and the classy digital read-outs magically illuminate, the car impresses. Finding a comfortable driving position is easy, as the reach and rake of the steering offers a wide range of adjustment, while forward visibility is great, with thin A-pillars and a large glass area. On the move, the first thing you notice is the smooth ride. The new electric power-steering has more weight and feel than the outgoing car's set-up. In bends, the Civic is agile, its body resisting roll well and the wide, low stance providing confidence-inspiring stability.

We will have to try the Honda on a bumpy UK B-road to see how it copes with the harshest surfaces, but for now we reckon it's nearly as good to drive as a Focus. The chassis is backed up by an excellent engine and gearbox combination. Our car had the 138bhp 2.2-litre i-CTDi diesel, and with 340Nm of torque, it delivers brisk acceleration, feeling every bit as quick as the class-leading 8.4-second 0-60mph time suggests.

Equally impressive is the lack of turbo lag, with a strong response even at low revs, while the six-speed gearbox has a short and positive change. Refinement is good, too, although at higher engine revs you'll never confuse the diesel variant for a petrol car. Mind you, with a combined economy figure of 55.4mpg and CO2 emissions of only 135g/km, private and company car buyers alike won't be too concerned. Negatives are few and far between, although we couldn't help feeling that rear visibility is poor. The thick C-pillars make for tricky manoeuvring, and the spoiler bisecting the window obscures your vision, particularly on the motorway. But that's about it for criticism. Equipment is generous, with most trim levels getting climate control, while ES versions add cruise control and a panoramic glass roof. Prices are competitive, too, with the ES model costing about the same as the equivalent Focus and £900 less than the Golf.

It all adds up to a very impressive package. Not only is the Civic practical, well built and good value, it's also great to drive and uniquely styled. There's no doubt it's a winner, and Honda's rivals should be very worried indeed.
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source:http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/61924/wild_civic_hits_road.html

Katya4me
11-16-2005, 10:58 AM
Nice, this is the first Civic that I would actually seriously consider.

RyanJayG
11-16-2005, 11:00 AM
side view its sort of 323F'esque

Newf
11-16-2005, 11:17 AM
i don't know man, that's a bit strange.

MSP #167
11-16-2005, 11:46 AM
i just threw up in my mouth

tunersteve
11-16-2005, 11:58 AM
The interior is pretty cool, but the front end looks like something out of Tron. I hope this never comes to the US as a hatchback form. Good luck putting a new exhaust on there too.

Spooled
11-16-2005, 12:07 PM
That 3rd photo makes the guy look like he's driving a golf cart or something. It looks like he's stuffed in there and the steering wheel angle is 45 degrees.

mooS mooS
11-16-2005, 12:07 PM
This is what happens when a Nissan Murano and Mercedes Hatch Copulate.

Throw in a bunch of RX-8 Triangles and let's call it a day

Spooled
11-16-2005, 12:09 PM
55mpg isn't too bad, though!

Velocifero
11-16-2005, 01:27 PM
Its not too too bad, good luck getting a short shifter, and the rear window is disgusting!
http://www.msprotege.com/members/Velocifero/ugly.JPG

Captain KRM P5
11-16-2005, 01:43 PM
holy ugliness batman

peepsalot
11-16-2005, 03:38 PM
I wasn't familiar with that engine so I did a search and came up with this:
http://world.honda.com/HDTV/news/2003-4030226_1a/

Pretty interesting stuff.

Spooled
11-16-2005, 04:17 PM
Its not too too bad, good luck getting a short shifter, and the rear window is disgusting!


The back reminds me of the Mercedes C230:
http://www.cartalk.com/content/testdrives/Reviews/Images/mercedes-C230-rear-angle.jpg

Spooled
11-16-2005, 04:18 PM
I wasn't familiar with that engine so I did a search and came up with this:
http://world.honda.com/HDTV/news/2003-4030226_1a/

Pretty interesting stuff.

Continuously variable swirl valve = VTCS, haha

mikeyb
11-16-2005, 04:19 PM
The back reminds me of the Mercedes C230:
http://www.cartalk.com/content/testdrives/Reviews/Images/mercedes-C230-rear-angle.jpg

Yes it does! I was thinking this Euro only Civic looks like it could be a Pontiac or Saturn here because of the way the frontend looks.

Spooled
11-16-2005, 04:19 PM
I like the variable vane turbo, though.

Spooled
11-16-2005, 04:24 PM
Damn, I just realized that the article was released in 2003

toucci
11-16-2005, 04:25 PM
Wow, that interior is pure ownage. I like something radical. It has its qualities... I think this one will really grow on me! Kudos to Honda!

Oh and "if you don't have something nice to say don't say anything at all" really applies here.

Foolish
11-16-2005, 04:28 PM
I think the hatch is trying to remind us of the CRX, but failing. I also think the front end is hideous, and reminds me of the old Mercury Sables with the wierd center light between the headlights.

mikeyb
11-16-2005, 04:30 PM
I like the interior in this Civic. I really don't care for the rest of the car.

peepsalot
11-16-2005, 05:14 PM
Continuously variable swirl valve = VTCS, haha
Sorta, except ours is more of a Binary thing as opposed to continuously variable. Only opened or closed I believe. And only used during warmup so they say.

nalspeed
11-16-2005, 07:18 PM
are you kidding me wtf is that it looks like a geo metro men!

Newf
11-16-2005, 07:44 PM
the front reminds me of the zylon( xylon.... spelling? the silver robot doods) from the old tv show battle star galactica

mikeyb
11-16-2005, 08:15 PM
the front reminds me of the zylon( xylon.... spelling? the silver robot doods) from the old tv show battle star galactica

Cylons

glyph
11-16-2005, 09:59 PM
why two pedals with a stick shift? did I miss something?

smurfedpro5
11-16-2005, 11:45 PM
wtf

spike blue
11-16-2005, 11:47 PM
is ugly dont like it , i like the inside though

Roywhitep5
11-16-2005, 11:51 PM
that would fail so bad here in the states. the top gear guys said it was beautiful and called the m5 ugly. weird!

lasermp5
11-17-2005, 12:09 AM
hug your toilet ftw! (blarf)

Amemiya
11-17-2005, 02:56 AM
scary looking.

JOS3
11-17-2005, 08:55 AM
looks like a space capsule

Phoenix5
11-17-2005, 12:50 PM
(blarf) ...that's all I have to say!

glyph
11-17-2005, 06:40 PM
I bet those pedals were photoshopped or something. They don't even look right.

MSP #167
11-17-2005, 06:58 PM
I bet those pedals were photoshopped or something. They don't even look right.


looks like the gas pedal and the dead pedal are shown....i bet the clutch and break are hidden by the steering wheel.

glyph
11-18-2005, 10:32 AM
But look at the angles of the pedals. It just doesn't look right. How would they get reflections like that in the footwell?

Either way, I'll let you know when my neighbor gets his new hybrid civic.