mwill756
11-15-2005, 12:08 AM
Ok this has been driving me crazy, here is the situation:
'99 Protege, 1.6L, 77K
Only routine maintenance that has been kept up is oil changes
I think it has had one tuneup
About 4 weeks ago, I noticed that following a normal cold start, engine idle speed would slow down, and sometimes the engine would die. If I gave it a little gas the engine would return to normal idle, and be fine. It would not happen after warm starts. Shortly thereafter I got the CEL. I bought a code reader, and it told me P0171. I found this forum and I started to do some research. I read the Hayes manual, Mazda repair manual, and some related threads on here. My code reader is one of those cheapies that only reads and erases the codes.
Following the advice from here I cleaned the MAF sensor, no luck with code. Then I used a bottle of fuel injector cleaner, no luck. Finally, I replace the front/first 02 sensor with a Bosch universal. No luck, my reader kept showing the same code and it would not clear.
I took a break from troubleshooting and for the next 2 weeks car ran fine, but cold start/idle problem continued and CEL remained on. Then today after being on the rode for 1+ hrs, car had trouble accelerating. From a stop, I would press the accelerator and it would accelerate very sluggishly. It also seems to accelerate slower at cruise. Then sometimes during an acceleration it would switch gears several times (up and down) or that's what it felt like. It seemed like the engine was not keeping a steady RPM so the transmission was having a hard time picking the right gear.
Took it home and did some more research. I pulled the PCV valve and gave it a shake, it rattled fine. I pulled the plugs (NGK) and they looked fine (I guess?), they had a light brown color on them. I also accidently pulled out the fuel injectors (I thought they were the spark plugs, I am really new at all this) Once I saw and smelled the fuel I decided to disconnect the battery. After I put everything back together and took it for a drive the CEL light was out and the car seemed to run fine, but it had the cold start/idle problem.
Does anyone have any idea what is going on? Why didn't the code reader clear the code? I know why disconnecting the battery cleared the code, but why didn't it come back on? Are the cold start/idle, CEL, and acceleration problems related? Or do I have multiple problems?
Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
'99 Protege, 1.6L, 77K
Only routine maintenance that has been kept up is oil changes
I think it has had one tuneup
About 4 weeks ago, I noticed that following a normal cold start, engine idle speed would slow down, and sometimes the engine would die. If I gave it a little gas the engine would return to normal idle, and be fine. It would not happen after warm starts. Shortly thereafter I got the CEL. I bought a code reader, and it told me P0171. I found this forum and I started to do some research. I read the Hayes manual, Mazda repair manual, and some related threads on here. My code reader is one of those cheapies that only reads and erases the codes.
Following the advice from here I cleaned the MAF sensor, no luck with code. Then I used a bottle of fuel injector cleaner, no luck. Finally, I replace the front/first 02 sensor with a Bosch universal. No luck, my reader kept showing the same code and it would not clear.
I took a break from troubleshooting and for the next 2 weeks car ran fine, but cold start/idle problem continued and CEL remained on. Then today after being on the rode for 1+ hrs, car had trouble accelerating. From a stop, I would press the accelerator and it would accelerate very sluggishly. It also seems to accelerate slower at cruise. Then sometimes during an acceleration it would switch gears several times (up and down) or that's what it felt like. It seemed like the engine was not keeping a steady RPM so the transmission was having a hard time picking the right gear.
Took it home and did some more research. I pulled the PCV valve and gave it a shake, it rattled fine. I pulled the plugs (NGK) and they looked fine (I guess?), they had a light brown color on them. I also accidently pulled out the fuel injectors (I thought they were the spark plugs, I am really new at all this) Once I saw and smelled the fuel I decided to disconnect the battery. After I put everything back together and took it for a drive the CEL light was out and the car seemed to run fine, but it had the cold start/idle problem.
Does anyone have any idea what is going on? Why didn't the code reader clear the code? I know why disconnecting the battery cleared the code, but why didn't it come back on? Are the cold start/idle, CEL, and acceleration problems related? Or do I have multiple problems?
Any help would be appreciated, thanks.