What have you done to your P5 today??

[mx-p5]

She ain't awake when I leave! I leave at 10 to 7. She doesn't even wake up till after 10

[aMaff]

Funny and true. She walks in the house after parking next to it in the garage yesterday and walks in, goes, "Is that a PT Cruiser??!!!?!?" Then points and laughes at me :(

LMFAO

[CTt3P5]

She ain't awake when I leave! I leave at 10 to 7. She doesn't even wake up till after 10

Um....rev the engine until she flies out of bed running through the house to stop you? haha

I also find it so funny 'cause it sounds like something Tamz would do to me.

[dxaveP5]

^^^ hahaha lmao this is too funny.

this dude tried to race me this morning when he heard my exhaust and he ended up slippin his tires on the ice and off the road in epic embarassment
icy as heck here in Dallas.

[mx-p5]

May have just scored myself some RX8 wheels with tires

[CTt3P5]

May have just scored myself some RX8 wheels with tires

Going for the uber lifted P5 look, eh? haha j/k

I <3 the RX-8 wheels....they look damn good on the P5.

[mx-p5]

I am gonna go take a look/pick em up today after work.

I won't be installing on my car, i might throw em on callie's though.

If and when they go on my car, it'll be once it is lowered.

Or, i can put em on my car in prep for the WV trip! No snow bank will be too big for my car to conqure! lol

[SATimko]

RX8 wheels + P5 = brakes that look to be the size of CDs.

[mx-p5]

I could always order a set of these

http://addmorehp.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/suzuki_karimun_dk1346ci_4.jpg

[dxaveP5]

if u put em on ur p5, i'll take ur Harts off ur hands :D

[mx-p5]

I likes my harts on my car. If Callie no likes, i might throw em back up for sale.

But, at the price they are, i just can't say no

[SATimko]

Sure you can...

Hand the wallet back to Callie.

[CTt3P5]

I likes my harts on my car. If Callie no likes, i might throw em back up for sale.

But, at the price they are, i just can't say no

You could always sell them to me for the price you are paying. :)

Put the RX-8 on yours, the RH's on Callie's and sell the black ones on craigslist...may break even/make money depending on how good of a deal you are getting.

[mx-p5]

She'll kill me if i pull her wheels. Her car is EXACTLY as she pictured what she wanted.

So, I just got the warning I better not touch her wheels.

Plus, i likes my RH's too much to go to rubberband tires and even more extreme 4x4 mode.

So, i am probably still gonna pick em up and try to make a teeny bit of money off of em.

[mx-p5]

SOB> I also just stumbled on an 03 MSP part out

Full Interior
Front and back Bumpers
Full Aftermarket race turbo kit! NOT STOCK!!
ALOT MORE

Emailed him to get details for any body else intrested in some parts

Also, to see if he's on here or not.


And I AM NOT LOOKING FOR PARTS FOR MY CAR> Looking for others that might be intrested in some parts

[SATimko]

Ok Ty. Here's the plan that I've made for you. Buy the RX8's. Turn them around for like 300. Take the money, buy springs.

[magnumP5]

SOB> I also just stumbled on an 03 MSP part out

Full Interior
Front and back Bumpers
Full Aftermarket race turbo kit! NOT STOCK!!
ALOT MORE

Emailed him to get details for any body else intrested in some parts

Also, to see if he's on here or not.


And I AM NOT LOOKING FOR PARTS FOR MY CAR> Looking for others that might be intrested in some parts
I'll bite. Keep us informed :D

[mx-p5]

That's kinda the plan. lol

And I'm looking out for you guys on the parts off the MSP.

Here's the email I got about the MSP

"It's off an 03 Mazdaspeed Protege. The motor was built and it was on 15 lbs of boost daily and I raced a z06 on the high way and I turned the boost up to 20 lbs and blew the motor.. It was the dark charcoal color.. The car made a little over 350whp untuned"

[aMaff]

Ok Ty. Here's the plan that I've made for you. Buy the RX8's. Turn them around for like 300. Take the money, buy springs.

YES!

[mx-p5]

You guys think I didn't think of that from teh start? I might be mod happy, but i am kinda smart

[Chicoloco]

I shall call you The Parts Bounty Hunter.

[CTt3P5]

Ok Ty. Here's the plan that I've made for you. Buy the RX8's. Turn them around for like 300. Take the money, buy springs.

YES!

x3

[mx-p5]

Just got an email. Here is waht dude has left for sale off his MSP

Turbo gt28rs comes with manifold n downpipe perfect condition dual
ball bearing 5,000 miles 1000
Front mount w/ injen hard pipes and perrin pipe connectors (Intake
side and exhaust side) Greddy type s bov 420
Cargo trunk net 20
Greddy boost controller 150
Oem body kit with fogs 200
Door panels amd oem ricaro seats 400
Injectors 60
Split fire 200
Head lights 150
Shift nob 20
Spoiler 100

[roy_o_banion]

Are you keeping the knob?

[mx-p5]

I'm gonna pass on all his parts. I rather keep saving for springs.

I can ask for a pic of the knob if you're interested though

[roy_o_banion]

Yes Please.

This one haz different threads than the p5?

[ZOOMit]

Anyone looking for HIDs for their P5. Check my sig.......threadjack!!

[mx-p5]

Get outa here Honda boy! lol

[mx-p5]

I think it's the same. But, i can't be 100% sure. I've got a TWM, not stock

[TWISFM]

pro5x2- where are these rx8 wheels how much and do they have tires..

[ZOOMit]

Get outa here Honda boy! lol


At least both of mine are running!! lol

[mx-p5]

And FYI, it's a Sparco Knob i just found out.

And Jeremy, oh snap. It's on now.

My car is dead due to a stupid previous owner

[aMaff]

Anyone looking for HIDs for their P5. Check my sig.......threadjack!!

Get outa here Honda boy! lol

At least both of mine are running!! lol

GIRLS! You're both pretty. Now shut the hell up.

[ZOOMit]

And Jeremy, oh snap. It's on now.

My car is dead due to a stupid previous owner

That sucks man. Your getting a new motor out of it though right?

[roy_o_banion]

And FYI, it's a Sparco Knob i just found out.

And Jeremy, oh snap. It's on now.

My car is dead due to a stupid previous owner

Pics?

[mx-p5]

GIRLS! You're both pretty. Now shut the hell up.

Someone thinks i'm pretty!?!?!?!? (alright)

And, i NEED a new motor, it just is up to the warranty adjuster to decide who pays for it


And Roy, as soon as i get a pic, i'll pass it on.

[magnumP5]

Pics?
+1

The '03 MSPs had Sparco shift knobs (actually they all are but only the '03s were labelled such). I'm more interested if the leather is still there or not. It's really hard to find one of these in good condition and I've kind of been after one for quite some time.

Pending it's condition I might grab it if Roy here doesn't.

[roy_o_banion]

Do you know about the threads on it magnum? I swear I read that they are different somewhere.

[TWISFM]

msp and p5 have diff threads

pro5x2- where are these rx8 wheels and do they have tires?

[mx-p5]

Should have pics tonight of the knob.

But, they won't be "Proper" pics, since i don't own em. All I can do is forward an email if someone else wants to buy the knob. It's in Fort Lauderdale, so, good hour south of me. I COULD pick it up, but, it'll be cheaper to just have it mailed from him to who wants it

And as much as i want to help ya, i got dibs on those wheels. I am needing suspension something awful, so, i think i'm gonna throw em up on ebay and the FS section here.

Unless you got some suspension goodies to trade

[magnumP5]

msp and p5 have diff threads
No, DX/LX/ES Sedans, P5s and MSPs all have the same thread pitch and diameter. The MP3s have the different pitch (10x1.25 as opposed to 10x1.5 I believe). The issue with MSPs is that the knob is much "deeper" than the other model's knobs in that the threaded part is much further inside the knob. The stock shifter on the P5 has a metal piece that gets in the way and doesn't allow the knob to be threaded on. I believe most, if not all aftermarket shifters will allow the use of the MSP knobs.

[roy_o_banion]

Ah, that's what I heard, thanks.

[roy_o_banion]

Okay, I am trying to find some 15" steelies for my protege. Does anyone know what car came with a 15" 5x114.5 bolt pattern with an appropriate offset?

[mx-p5]

Miata? Jeff is rockin Miata wheels on his car.

[SATimko]

Those aren't 15's.

[roy_o_banion]

No steel wheels, the miata is too good of a car for that. I think all the 626's had 14" for steel and the only ones with 15" were alloys. And all the older proteges are 4-lug. Unless you have a good idea of where to buy new steel wheels?

[JDM-P5]

You can get DSM (Eclipse/Talon/Laser) wheels for relatively cheap.
I had 2 Eclipses. A 2G a-body (96) and a 2G b-body (97-99)...both were 5x114.

[magnumP5]

You can get cheap DSM (Eclipse/Talon/Laser) wheels for relatively cheap.
w00t! Cheap wheels for cheap!

[roy_o_banion]

Okay, time to call up junkyards I guess. Craigslist has not netted me anything for quite a while now.

[JDM-P5]

w00t! Cheap wheels for cheap!

Damn it quoted before I could even fix my mistake!!!

[mx-p5]

Doh, i fail on teh miata wheels.

And, that Sparco knob is kinda jack'd up

[JDM-P5]

Later model Miatas have 5x114.

Nice Shift knob.

[aMaff]

Later model Miatas have 5x114.

Nice Shift knob.

as in the NCs, yes.

[roy_o_banion]

And 16" and up, am I right?


Doh, i fail on teh miata wheels.

And, that Sparco knob is kinda jack'd up

whoa!

[magnumP5]

Doh, i fail on teh miata wheels.

And, that Sparco knob is kinda jack'd up
Yep, stock '03 MSP shift knob and it is indeed missing it's leather wrapping...

[mx-p5]

So, that a no on the knob? lol

He's also got the front bumper, skirts, and rear bumper for sale. Waiting on ap ic of that as well.

[CTt3P5]

Okay, I am trying to find some 15" steelies for my protege. Does anyone know what car came with a 15" 5x114.5 bolt pattern with an appropriate offset?

As Phil said look for some Eclipse/Talon/Laser wheels. My 14" steelies are from a 1993 and are 14x5.5 +35 offset with the 67.1 hubbore and 5x114 bolt pattern.

Miata? Jeff is rockin Miata wheels on his car.

Yup but they are my summer wheels and 16's. :)

Okay, time to call up junkyards I guess. Craigslist has not netted me anything for quite a while now.

I picked mine up at a local junkyard for $100. Here's a good website for some reference. Did a quick look and it seems as though the Diamante wheels will work as well.

http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/Vehicle_Bolt_Pattern_Reference.cfm

[roy_o_banion]

Thanks for the link Jeff. Last time I went to the junk yard, none of the cars had all four wheels on them. And they had a few sets inside, but they were crazy overpriced. I guess I need to keep looking. I don't know maybe more protege5 wheels are the ticket.

As for the knob, magnum can have it if he wants.

[JDM-P5]

ATTENTION TY!!!
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123728033
$550

[CTt3P5]

Thanks for the link Jeff. Last time I went to the junk yard, none of the cars had all four wheels on them. And they had a few sets inside, but they were crazy overpriced. I guess I need to keep looking. I don't know maybe more protege5 wheels are the ticket.

As for the knob, magnum can have it if he wants.

NP...hope it helps. Don't you have more than one junkyard around town. I called several within a 40 or so mile radius before finding a set.

[roy_o_banion]

Well I went to all 3 of the ones I know. I just called a couple of wheel guys, and they want 75-85 a wheel. I think I will likely get alloys the way things are going. Not that it's a bad thing really, I was just trying to be cheap.

[mx-p5]

ATTENTION TY!!!
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123728033
$550

Funny thing, i'm not even tempted.

I've come to grips with i am not boosting the car.

My funds are tied up in headlights at the moment, then will be in suspension, then i'm done with the car.

[Foolish]

Left her in the driveway so I could drive the miata to work. Ah the joys of daily driving the shouty car to break the new engine in LOL

Liar! You don't have a P5 anymore!

...do you?

[aMaff]

Liar! You don't have a P5 anymore!

...do you?

wow, I got my "what have you done to your..." threads mixed up :(

No, alas I don't have a P5 anymore. But I did leave the S sitting for the reason I stated. Did the 1st oil change today as well on the new motor

[dxaveP5]

Motormount SALE!!!!!
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123728297
iono if these mounts are good tho?
are they

[azmp5]

I nedd to replace some of mine , so I hope they are good . I am very interested in them.

[fremast]

I've heard a lot of good things...
Been looking at 'em myself.

[mx-p5]

I drove past it again this AM in the PT Loser.

I'll be using the Loser to go get wheels and tires today after work though. We couldn't meet up lastnight to get em

[vel]

No, DX/LX/ES Sedans, P5s and MSPs all have the same thread pitch and diameter. The MP3s have the different pitch (10x1.25 as opposed to 10x1.5 I believe). The issue with MSPs is that the knob is much "deeper" than the other model's knobs in that the threaded part is much further inside the knob. The stock shifter on the P5 has a metal piece that gets in the way and doesn't allow the knob to be threaded on. I believe most, if not all aftermarket shifters will allow the use of the MSP knobs.

thanks for the info, just bought one of these. looks like it was in great shape. totally forgot about the fitment. should be here any day now.

[mx-p5]

I am selling the Injen CAI i just installed on teh wife's car to fund my lowering.

It's for sale now (http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123728413)

[aMaff]

I am selling the Injen CAI i just installed on teh wife's car to fund my lowering.

It's for sale now (http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123728413)

(rofl)(rlaugh)

[mx-p5]

Not so funny with this.

I installed it asking if she liked the sound or the look, she can have it. She doesn't care either way, so, i'll pull it.

This isn't me. I gave her the option, she doesn't want it.

So, i' pulled it.


I first bought it with the intent to resell, but gave her the option if she wanted it, she could have it. She doesn't care, so, i took it back

[ZOOMit]

I tired to sell my HIDs...But no one wants them :(

[mx-p5]

I am hoping to sell the RX8 wheels too. But, i have a feeling they will end up on Ebay.

And, the problem with HID's is they can be had for sSOOO cheap brand new anymore.

Does suck.......cause i'm gonna be trying to sell mine too, but i 'll be selling as a combo with the black'd out headlights

[ZOOMit]

damn Tylor you better not be giving me any competition in the HID department!! lol


edit - im selling mine for $60 shipped...thats cheap rite??

[mx-p5]

Sorry. I've been told new headlights should ship Friday, so, i'll have my Apexcone setup FS too, as well as the Pro5 black'd headlights next week

[magnumP5]

I tired to sell my HIDs...But no one wants them :(
I've been debating about taking those off your hands for a while too. The install just worries me (as does other things). I've also pretty much froze my mod spending for the last three months too. Ideally, I would have liked to pick these up from you and the filler caps that were for sale as well. Saving money does suck...

[mx-p5]

Install couldn't be easier.

Plug bulb into ballast

plug ballast into stock wiring harness

put bulb in headlight

tuck ballast if you so choose



DONE



And, while some consider it MORE work to remove the bumper and headlights, i did, just so i knew the bulb was seated right and the fact I didn't get a hand cramp from trying to squeeze the HID bulb in without touching anything on the passenger side

[ZOOMit]

I've been debating about taking those off your hands for a while too. The install just worries me (as does other things). I've also pretty much froze my mod spending for the last three months too. Ideally, I would have liked to pick these up from you and the filler caps that were for sale as well. Saving money does suck...

Just bumped it down to $55 (alright) It sucks I paid more than double for em and only used them 3 months. Bahhhh....

Yeah I know what you mean about saving money. I want to mod my car more something baaaad....But I'm trying to do regular maintenance on them first.

[mx-p5]

I paid $130 for my kit, WITHOUT any warranty.

[ZOOMit]

I paid $130 for my kit, WITHOUT any warranty.


sucks don't it!! lol


(shady)

[mx-p5]

Si.

[magnumP5]

Yeah, my '86 pickup pretty much died in the cold yesterday after work so I've got to spend some money to fix that. Unfortunately the P5 is not a very good winter DD in it's current state.

[JDM-P5]

i 'll be selling as a combo with the black'd out headlights

LMK when you do this...if the price is reasonable...I'll buy them.
Just remember I asked first.

[mx-p5]

I've actually had about a half dozen members PM me asking about the headlights.

And, as i told them, $250 for headlights and $300 with Apexcone 4300K hid lowbeam kit


If all the members are serious, i might have to go auction style with it.


Also, just picked up these beauties

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/cbrjeeper/DSC01371.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/cbrjeeper/DSC01372.jpg

And, it isn't the most tread in the world, but, i can't complain

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/cbrjeeper/DSC01373.jpg

[dxaveP5]

well if u dont want em, u can shoot me a pm :D

[magnumP5]

Looks like the P5 is the new DD for the next few days...

...time to start looking for a new truck.

[mx-p5]

The Yota down for good?

[magnumP5]

The Yota down for good?
Might be. The alternator is definitely dead but they can't figure out why it is overheating with the heater on (yes, on, you read that correctly (shrug)) and they said it looks like there's oil all over one side of the engine. They ran out of time tonight so they'll be finishing the diagnostics tomorrow morning. I've already started looking at new '09 Tacomas :D

[goodfornothing]

I just bought ZOOMit's HID's today. The first thing I bought for my car this month. Next is a tranny flush.

Then I'm saving for some boost. Or a motorcycle. :)

[mx-p5]

I got a call from the mechanic.

Inspector came today, and, the car did just what it should. Knock'd its little head off, spit coolant out the tailpipe, and coolant temp spiked to the point the adjuster made him shut it down before it even reached temp.

So, tomorrow he starts the tear down process to see what he finds.



Good thing is the mechanic knows the adjuster, and they both agree i should get a whole new motor out of it. Without breaking it down, the adjuster said he's pretty sure i'll have a cracked head or something with as bad a knock as it's got now


So, I roll in the PT Looser for the rest of the week

[goodfornothing]

Loose like a goose.

[fremast]

New motor FTW!

Congrats!

[magnumP5]

New motor FTW!

Congrats!
Seriously! I wish I had a warranty to do stuff like this. Something tells me that if I tried to pursue an aftermarket warranty they'd just laugh in my face :(

[mx-p5]

Something tells me the same thing. lol

I did pull the header though so intake and exhaust are the only mods.

Should help a little.

And, i just hope they pony up for a NEW motor, rather than something they find in a junkyard



oh, and question:

Will RX8 wheels with the stock 225/45/18's fit without rubbing much?

[i12drivemyMP5]

oh, and question:

Will RX8 wheels with the stock 225/45/18's fit without rubbing much?Thinking this might require fender rolling to not rub........especially if lowered any.

[mx-p5]

I was thinking more about rubbing on teh struts. I sit higher than any other Pro5, so i am not worried about rubbing the fenders. lol

[SATimko]

Until you hit a bump...

[mx-p5]

Won't rub my fenders. I got mad clearance

[SATimko]

You'll be surprised how much the suspension moves...

[mx-p5]

I know. i'm just playin. I forgot, the ride height jokes are on TMF

[mx-p5]

OH and, as soon as payment clears from the sale of the intake, payment is being made on some Eibach Pro's.

4x4 mode will be no longer!!!

[SATimko]

Good. I'm glad to see that the whole plan worked in your favor.

[mx-p5]

So far so good.

ANd i got good news on the headlights too.

[CTt3P5]

Congrats on the new motor.....maybe your mechanic could source one from PG or SpeedCircuit?

Congrats x2 on getting the springs.....one day I'll have some.....

[mx-p5]

I wish. He wants a NEW motor, but he has a feeling the warranty company is not gonna wanna pay for NEW

[SATimko]

Here's an idea man... when I got the replacement B18C1 for the Civic, the total bill was around $5400 for an $1100 motor. Warranty will most likely go junkyard motor like the insurance company did for me.

[mx-p5]

That's kinda what i'm thinking.

Good thing for me though, there aren't any Protege's in any junkyards from here to orlando to miami.

[CTt3P5]

I wish. He wants a NEW motor, but he has a feeling the warranty company is not gonna wanna pay for NEW

I know you and your mechanic would prefer new, but if they wont spring for it you can get one with under 30k for $1199.

http://www.speedcircuit.net/product_info.php?cPath=21_38&products_id=172&osCsid=ea3fdeba9a5bf93c4bb30ceab3cf0764

[mx-p5]

Yeah, i figured. We'll see what he finds when he tears the motor down today.

[shane02pro5]

Hope everything works out for you on the motor!

I wasn't happy with the drop from the Prokit...I was planning on switching to Sportlines but came across the coilovers that were less than the sportlines and tokico blues so...

[mx-p5]

Got pics of the Prokit?

Any other unhappy customers?

I'm not looking to drop it totally. I just want some wheel gap eliminated and still maintain a good ride since it's just a daily driver

[roy_o_banion]

You find a deal on the eibachs, I thought you were going with H&R? Oh yeah, 4x4 fTMFw!

[mx-p5]

Yeah, eibachs for $150, so, i'm leaning that way.

[magnumP5]

I want coilovers...

[ZOOMit]

Sold my HIDs yesterday...

[mx-p5]

Congrats!

[A louie]

Tein > eibach

[mx-p5]

which is better for daily driven needs to still be comfortable?

I'm not going for lowest Pro5 or best in the corners.

Just looking for a good all around drop and still smooth ride


And, find me some Tiens for $150

[ZOOMit]

which is better for daily driven needs to still be comfortable?

I'm not going for lowest Pro5 or best in the corners.

Just looking for a good all around drop and still smooth ride


And, find me some Tiens for $150

Chk the spring rates of both...you want something comparable to stock.

[goodfornothing]

One of my headlight bulbs just burned out. Good thing I bought ZOOMit's HID's.

I'm also looking for some lowering springs and was considering the Pro-Kit. Let me know what you find out Pro5x2.

[WhiteKnight]

i changed my oil, replaced the loose dash kit, and got new tires for the snow.

[magnumP5]

which is better for daily driven needs to still be comfortable?

I'm not going for lowest Pro5 or best in the corners.

Just looking for a good all around drop and still smooth ride


And, find me some Tiens for $150
I bought my Tein S-Tech's used for $125 :D

Either way, from what you describe the Prokit is the best choice.

[A louie]

Tein > eibach

[magnumP5]

Teins have linear springrates, the Eibachs have progressive. Teins are also lower. From what you describe you want the Eibach Pro-kit is the best choice for you.

[SATimko]

Mazdaspeed B-specs > Teins.

Heh.

[mx-p5]

4x4 pwns you all!

[TWISFM]

washed her.. and about to buy rims and tires.. aftermarket ftw

[mx-p5]

just picked up AWR adjustable rear endlinks

[magnumP5]

just picked up AWR adjustable rear endlinks
Ha, have fun. If you think the rear end is noisy now...

[SATimko]

He shouldn't be too bad if he's listened to what we've told him a hundred times. I have AWRs and they're silent.

[magnumP5]

He shouldn't be too bad if he's listened to what we've told him a hundred times. I have AWRs and they're silent.
I dunno, I had AWR endlinks and the Progress rear swaybar and I couldn't keep it quiet. I did everything you were supposed to: used ramps to lift the rear so the suspension was still compressed, adjusted the endlinks so the bar ends were as close to horizontal as possible, I made sure the endlinks didn't bind when I inserted the bolt and I tightened the hell out of them! They would be quiet for about a day or two and then would get noisy no matter how much torque I applied to the bolts/nuts.

[JDM-P5]

Tylor...why are you buying all this crap and your car is broke?

[mx-p5]

I don't know what you're talking about. lol




warranty is fixing the car though.

[JDM-P5]

Good for you then,

I was just thinking..."what if they don't"...you'd be stuck in that PT Bruiseyourego for ever.



Imagine endless days of your wife making fun of you....not to mention the people on here...whew.

[mx-p5]

tokico's on ebay. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOKICO-4-HP-STRUTS-SHOCKS-MAZDA-PROTEGE-99-04-BEST-P_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33590QQihZ027QQitemZ4 00016687411QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW#ht_500wt_1154)

opinions please? If they look good to you guys, i'll be buying

[ZOOMit]

tokico's on ebay. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOKICO-4-HP-STRUTS-SHOCKS-MAZDA-PROTEGE-99-04-BEST-P_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33590QQihZ027QQitemZ4 00016687411QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW#ht_500wt_1154)

opinions please? If they look good to you guys, i'll be buying


I've heard good things about Toxis, combine those with some Eibachs and you got yourself a nice setup for around $450. Although combining different shocks w different springs will always give you a different ride (you like my analogy dont you Tylor?). You know what I mean rite? it'd be like putting some Teins S techs on Toxicos, its gonna ride different, how different I dont know. There's a suspension thread around here somewhere that should help. (usa)

[roy_o_banion]

I think he's asking about getting them from ebay/that seller. Not how would he like them on a protege. It's not like there are tons of options for protege struts.


Edit: And I drove it in a bit of snow


http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/roy_obanion/DSC_1959.jpg

[D-rock240]

tokico's on ebay. (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5336012636&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Febaymotors%2FTOKI CO-4-HP-STRUTS-SHOCKS-MAZDA-PROTEGE-99-04-BEST-P_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33590QQihZ027QQitemZ4 00016687411QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW%23ht_500wt_1154 )

opinions please? If they look good to you guys, i'll be buying

Decent price, I think that's around what I paid through PG. I'm happy with my Tokico/Espelir setup.

[mx-p5]

If I can pick em up through Ken for that price, i'll go that route.

I'd rather buy from 1) an approved vendor here and 2) someone I know i can trust

Hmm.....$380 on his site.

I know it's only $50, but, i can't take $$$ outa the bank. it's all gotta come from paypal.

Which, is also pending the sales of the RX8 wheels

[dxaveP5]

i got a full kit on forums here brand new for 400shipped. :D in the summer.
its pretty good, its also on pg.com its the tokico strut/spring combo for like 500?
but yea i got a good drop
but i want a lil more of a drop now.

[DeanSweet]

I actually hand washed my P5 in the driveway! How often can I say that on December 19th in Southern Ohio!?! :)

[mx-p5]

i dunno what i said. lol

[SATimko]

Say again?

[goodfornothing]

Are the stock MSP struts Tokico's?

[aMaff]

Are the stock MSP struts Tokico's?

They are, but they're not the regular market Protege HPs, they're have different spring perch height. Not sure on the strut valving.

[SATimko]

Re-valved blues.

[goodfornothing]

Since I plan on getting the pro-kit, would it be worth it to pair the springs up with some MSP struts?

[SATimko]

Get the Tokicos made for the Protege5.

[goodfornothing]

k.

[SATimko]

MSP struts, since the spring perch height is different, will make the rear stand higher. That's why a P5 sags in the rear when you put MSP springs on any other strut. Plus I don't think the P5 rear end links will line up right with the MSP struts.

[goodfornothing]

Thanks for the info! I'm just going to run the Pro-kit on my stock struts until I have money to buy tokico's.

[Breeegz]

^If you are doing the install yourself, I suggest doing both at the same time... I had a bitch-of-a-time with my stock struts and springs. If I were to do it all over again, I'd swap the package deal...

[goodfornothing]

Thanks for the advice, Breeegz. I'm not quite sure if I want to do a lot of mods to my car though. I keep going back and forth with this.

I'm getting my MSP exhaust soon and my HID's so I'm a bit giddy about that :).

[Foolish]

Actually, we've got the MSP struts on the P5 with P5 Eibachs. Handling is great, ride is great, stance looks great.

I think spring fit (wagon vs. sedan) is more important than strut fit.

[fremast]

I bit the bullet and went all the way to coilovers. I personally love them (even on the daily driver) but they're not for everyone. Though I have it set up relatively tame at the moment (you can still can see the top of the sidewall, and the ride isn't punching me in the kidneys), I love having the option to go totally agressive whenever I feel like it, and maybe some day I'll drop it another inch just for the kicks.

I've also been driving the P5 in several inches of snow... man is it fun as long as the idiots aren't in the way... some people really should just stay home in real weather... I'm cautious enough I'm never near their sliding insanity, but I could get everywhere a hell of a lot faster if they weren't driving at 5 miles an hour and somehow still locking up all four corners... welcome to the Pacific Northwest, I guess.

And I installed Dave B Rings tonight in 19 degree weather (okay, the ring install was done inside, but had to pull the guage cluster and reinstall when done in the cold)... no pics yet, but what can I say: they're Dave B Rings... we all know what they look like, and most of us love 'em. I'm certainly pleased as punch and pie...

My wife even likes them, which is good because I have another set under the tree for her LS...

[SATimko]

Actually, we've got the MSP struts on the P5 with P5 Eibachs. Handling is great, ride is great, stance looks great.

I think spring fit (wagon vs. sedan) is more important than strut fit.

I've done a couple springs with MSP struts and have found the perches to not line up well with the springs at all. Have you had any problems like that? Got a pic of the P5?

[mx-p5]

Also intrested to see Eibach's on MSP struts. I can pick up a set of those cheaper than new Blues

[goodfornothing]

The reason why I brought MSP struts up because there are some in the FS forum lol.

[goodfornothing]

Just got my Mazdaspeed axleback right now! Taking it to the shop to get it installed because I don't have jackstands or the right tools yet :(

EDIT: INSTALLED
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/imxaxputo/08.jpg

LOVE IT! It's funny how dinky the stock muffler looks compared to this.

[dxaveP5]

haha looks good. wish i had money i wouldve gotten the Tanabe Medalion Touring axleback and do custom 2.5 piping.
its alot quieter than this one, but just a wee bit louder than the RB catback

[Bret2002]

i just installed my mazdaspeed axleback as well, i absolutely love the tone and rumble of this exhaust, and the tip looks so good

[goodfornothing]

I'm actually quite pleased with the deep tone of this exhaust. It's not even that loud for me.

Random: I'm suddenly craving a Monster right now...

Anywho, since I plan on lowering my car with Pro-kit springs, I'm wondering what kind of tires would fit. I'm shooting for 205/45R17's. Would I have to roll my fenders for these?

[dxaveP5]

no your fine.

and mazdaspeed seems to be a little too loud for me now. not annoying but wishing it was a little quiter.

[i12drivemyMP5]

Just got my Mazdaspeed axleback right now! Taking it to the shop to get it installed because I don't have jackstands or the right tools yet :(

EDIT: INSTALLED
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/imxaxputo/08.jpg

LOVE IT! It's funny how dinky the stock muffler looks compared to this.Hey, I know that tread pattern, lol. Gitcha some tiny hose clamps on the muffler hanger stalks on the inside of each rubber hanger to keep it centered in the bumper cutout.

[goodfornothing]

Haha Nexen tires.

I noticed the same thing that it's not centered. I'm thinking about getting some new exhaust hangers then ziptying them, so hopefully that'll straighten it out.

[mx-p5]

i used small hose clamps. HOlds up better than zipties.

[DeadGeneration]

I can center mine, but then when I use the car it drifts towards the center. Sounds like a 2009 project, so minor though.

[goodfornothing]

Hmm...
I looked at it again and I kind of like it not being centered :).

[Dom 2.0L]

30 more cm (± 10 inches) of snow here! loads of e-brake fun in the streets! But god is she dirty now... -15 celsius so I can't do anything about it right now

21st of december, first winter day! lol 4 months to go (cabpatch)

[goodfornothing]

Just changed my left burnt out headlight bulb. $17 bulb from Kragen lol. I can't be driving for a week with just one bulb.

[rooster1]

hey i was guna buy ZOOMit's hids! lol.. im back from the dead!
boy all this holiday nonsense has got me racked. im straight broke lol.

i guess this means ima move onto my next project. the audio!
first up i gota install my sony headunit. then later down the road some upgraded speakers, then a nice sub or pair of subs.

wow i have a long way to go on this car theres so much i want to do,
but its all good considering i just got it an i am going to ride it till the wheels fall off yo. (usa)

[goodfornothing]

Looks like I beat you to the HID's, rooster1.

Audio isn't important to me. It's da sp33d! Or lack thereof.

[Breeegz]

It's not about the boost in the booster, it's about the twist in the twisties...

[mx-p5]

Just got the phone call mechanic is gonna start tearing the motor down today

So, now we sit and wait.

Also, body shop next door is gonna come by and take a look at the lip to quote me how much to paint it


And, i need more opinions or experience of KYB struts compared to the tokico blues. I know Andrew says they are crap, but, i can get springs and struts shipped cheaper than I can get Tokico blues alone

Is it a crappy trade off? Should i stick with the blues and pass on teh KYBs?


Car is just daily driven and won't see track time, so i'd like it to be dropped but keep as close to stock suspension feel as possible

[SATimko]

Then save money and failure time and stick with stock struts.

In all honesty, if you lower it, just go with the tried and true Blues.

[mx-p5]

tokico:2
KYB:1


Looks like i gotta get the rx8 wheels sold for some tokico blues

[roy_o_banion]

Yeah, I think you would notice the extra unsprung weight as well.

[mx-p5]

Rear endlinks just showed

[JDM-P5]

Then save money and failure time and stick with stock struts.

I have had no problem with the OEMs and Teins.
(lol2)

[SATimko]

I've got the Mazdaspeed B-specs on stock struts (tho I shouldn't). They're bound to fail soon. I hope I can off the car before they do though.

[D-rock240]

I've got the Mazdaspeed B-specs on stock struts (tho I shouldn't). They're bound to fail soon. I hope I can off the car before they do though.

Blasphemy :(

Would you get another Mazda if you sold the P5?

[SATimko]

MS6. It all depends on if the bank will give me a loan. If I get the loan, the MS6 is mine. If they don't, then I'm taking my bonus, fixing the rust, and living with it.

My reasoning is that I already have a project car, and it's much easier and cheaper to make it a competitive car for Auto-X. I want something I'm not going to feel the urge to mod all the time.

[Breeegz]

Anywho, since I plan on lowering my car with Pro-kit springs, I'm wondering what kind of tires would fit. I'm shooting for 205/45R17's. Would I have to roll my fenders for these?

I'm no expert, but when talking about lowering and tire fit, offset of the rims is a very important factor. +45 offset will probably fit but +35 offset would probably need a test fit to be sure.

IIRC the stock 16's are +50 offset and I get 55 series rubber to fit awesomely during the winter, and I'm running +40 offset 17's with 40 series rubber during the short Alaskan Summer and it's tight, but no major rubbing (I think I rubbed a couple times on potholes(sad2)).

^Food for thought

[TWISFM]

should i be ok with a 18x7.5, +45mm offset

link to rims http://www.msrwheels.com/wheels_detail_specs.cfm?id=135

[goodfornothing]

You thanks for that man.

Well I do plan on getting 215/40R17 tires and the rims I'm getting are 17x5 with a +40 offset. I might have to get a 5mm wheel spacer since I will be lowering my car.

I'm no expert, but when talking about lowering and tire fit, offset of the rims is a very important factor. -45 offset will probably fit but -35 offset would probably need a test fit to be sure.

IIRC the stock 16's are -50 offset and I get 55 series rubber to fit awesomely during the winter, and I'm running -40 offset 17's with 40 series rubber during the short Alaskan Summer and it's tight, but no major rubbing (I think I rubbed a couple times on potholes(sad2)).

^Food for thought

[Sveivo]

I'm no expert, but when talking about lowering and tire fit, offset of the rims is a very important factor. -45 offset will probably fit but -35 offset would probably need a test fit to be sure.

IIRC the stock 16's are -50 offset and I get 55 series rubber to fit awesomely during the winter, and I'm running -40 offset 17's with 40 series rubber during the short Alaskan Summer and it's tight, but no major rubbing (I think I rubbed a couple times on potholes(sad2)).

^Food for thought

Actually if you changed every offset figure in this post to a "+" number, it would be correct! (headbang)
You thanks for that man.

Well I do plan on getting 215/40R17 tires and the rims I'm getting are 17x5 with a +40 offset. I might have to get a 5mm wheel spacer since I will be lowering my car.

A spacer will lower your effective offset, making it +35, which will be even less suitable.

There is no easy way to increase offset without machining.

[Breeegz]

You thanks for that man.

Well I do plan on getting 215/40R17 tires and the rims I'm getting are 17x5 with a +40 offset. I might have to get a 5mm wheel spacer since I will be lowering my car.

Actually if you changed every offset figure in this post to a "+" number, it would be correct! (headbang)


Um, yeah, I meant positive offset... I used negative offset in my Monte Carlo.(hi)

Good thing I don't claim that elusive "Expert" title. Fixed.

[mx-p5]

Eibach Pro's will soon be mine. Payment sent lastnight!

Coming down out of 4x4 mode!

[D-rock240]

MS6. It all depends on if the bank will give me a loan. If I get the loan, the MS6 is mine. If they don't, then I'm taking my bonus, fixing the rust, and living with it.

My reasoning is that I already have a project car, and it's much easier and cheaper to make it a competitive car for Auto-X. I want something I'm not going to feel the urge to mod all the time.

That would be sweet. White MS3? :)

Yeah I can understand that. Technically you have two project cars if you count the bimmer.

[SATimko]

If I had an MS3, it'd be like having two Civics with the number of ricers I'd have to deal with.

[mx-p5]

including other MS3 owners. 99% of the MS3 owners here are ricers

[SATimko]

Yep. Exactly. The MS3 ushered in a new generation of ricers to the Mazda community. I've witnessed many first hand.

[evilmonkeyMSP]

thats because 90% of the "kids" that bought MS3s came from SRT4s lol

[mx-p5]

If I could afford it, i'd be in a MS3.

But I be no ricer, although I do have cheap tires on my car. lol

[evilmonkeyMSP]

meh, we were gonna do a MS3, but decided we'd both prefer a WRX

[mx-p5]

yeah, but MS3 is a good bit cheaper, well, i don't recall with the 09's

I am not even gonna start this conversation again, i am keeping the Pro5

i just bought new springs, endlinks, and rear strut bar.

Awaiting struts

[SATimko]

If I could afford it, i'd be in a MS3.

But I be no ricer, although I do have cheap tires on my car. lol

You're too ADD to fully be a ricer. You may have different parts on the car frequently, but you'd ask all of us to no end what we thought about them before you bought them. Hahahaha. Not necessarily a bad thing.

[mx-p5]

lol.

you speak truth Phen.

But, if i were to get a MS3, i think wheels, tint, and stereo would be the only upgrades to the car.

Don't wanna mess with the turbo, since it already sucks

[SATimko]

Yeah...don't wanna do anything to void the warranty like everyone else...

[mx-p5]

yeah, pretty much.

I am enjoying the warranty on my car right now. lol

[ZOOMit]

If I could afford it, i'd be in a MS3.

But I be no ricer, although I do have cheap tires on my car. lol


Your a ricer NOW Tylor bwwhahaha (hah)

[mx-p5]

shut up honda boy! lol

[SATimko]

Watch who you're calling Honda boy.

[mx-p5]

oh snap, they're EVERYWHERE!


j/k. i can't talk. I miss my Honda

[ZOOMit]

oh snap, they're EVERYWHERE!


j/k. i can't talk. I miss my Honda

We need a new thread "so what did you do to your Honda today" (stoned)

[mx-p5]

We have a "What did you do to your Non-Mazda" thread already

[ZOOMit]

We have a "What did you do to your Non-Mazda" thread already

Well then, I see you've been whoring up the fourms lately... lol j/k

[mx-p5]

whatchew talkin bout Willis?

[SATimko]

We need a new thread "so what did you do to your Honda today" (stoned)

Spun up to 8400 rpm... I really wish my Mazda did that stuff.

[mx-p5]

Go get an RX

[JDM-P5]

Or a Miata...which revs to 8...lol.

[mx-p5]

Or, a Mini with an RX motor in it!

[mx-p5]

to anybody running sedan headlights, what did you use for the turnsignal on the outsides of the lights?

[evilmonkeyMSP]

a ligthbulb

[mx-p5]

I got the bulb, i do not have the adapter/plug that goes into the turnsignal


P.Niss

[evilmonkeyMSP]

(lol2)

[mx-p5]

Go look at the sedan. Does it have the same connector going into it that is on teh Pro5 bumper marker?

[evilmonkeyMSP]

its in the garage at home.

[mx-p5]

and?

[evilmonkeyMSP]

and....my employer was not able to relocate our house inside the building for me....so i'm not near it at the moment.... :p

[mx-p5]

Tell your employer he sucks then

[evilmonkeyMSP]

lol

[aMaff]

Or a Miata...which revs to 8...lol.

Yeah... except no. Stock is somewhere b/w 7000 and 7400 depending on the year. (my 92 is 7250). The tachs on the early cars are really slow (or fast I guess). It'll indicate some retarded RPM (near 8 grand) but it's not what it's doing. An accurate tach proves tihs.

[JDM-P5]

Wheeeee!

[SATimko]

Ty, I'd be willing to believe it's the same plug. It'd be rather dumb for Mazda to make different wiring harnesses, simply based on a different turnsignal, but I don't know for sure.

[mx-p5]

hmm...then looks like i will just black out tint the bumper light since it won't be used


Or, see if the body shop would be willing to fill it in and repaint the bumper too, so no more bumper light

[Sliver5]

get that lip painted....

[mx-p5]

getting it quoted tomorrow, as well as repaint the bumper and delete the bumper marker

[sube]

Actually if you changed every offset figure in this post to a "+" number, it would be correct! (headbang)


A spacer will lower your effective offset, making it +35, which will be even less suitable.

There is no easy way to increase offset without machining.

IIRC the factory offset is +50, the lower the offset moves the wheel out toward the fender, this is loading up the bearings and can cause premature wear. Don't know about Mazda, but Subaru would not warranty wheel bearings that had failed because a lower offset rim was used on the car. Incidently I realise that most P5s are out of warranty by now but this would apply to newer cars like the M6 and M3.

Pat.

[rooster1]

i want to relocate my front license plate an then fill in an repaint the bumper.

[mx-p5]

Oh, and fill the license plate bolts too. Those will be gone

[Sveivo]

IIRC the factory offset is +50, the lower the offset moves the wheel out toward the fender, this is loading up the bearings and can cause premature wear. Don't know about Mazda, but Subaru would not warranty wheel bearings that had failed because a lower offset rim was used on the car. Incidently I realise that most P5s are out of warranty by now but this would apply to newer cars like the M6 and M3.

Pat.

Everything you said is right. The only reason I said +35 is that he was looking a wheel with +40. A 5mm spacer would make it +35.

Yes, that it true about wheel bearings, but I honestly wouldn't sweat it. Subaru must be notorious for weak bearings?

Pretty much any mod you do puts more "stress" on one thing or another. That's what it's all about! :D And seriously, your bearing will probably outlast the car anyway, unless you have a Subaru.

[slideshow240]

so does that mean the clicking i hear under braking only is a wheel bearing or just brakes? clicking sounds like axles but they are like new looking and clean as hell

[Sveivo]

so does that mean the clicking i hear under braking only is a wheel bearing or just brakes? clicking sounds like axles but they are like new looking and clean as hell

Not sure about that. Bearings usually make a humming/gridning/thumping type of noise.

I just had recently my front bearings done (130K miles now) and my winter wheels are +40. I don't think it's really that bad.

[TWISFM]

what do you all think of buying a rim that has a crack in it but is being repaired...?

[ZOOMit]

depends on how big the crack is, are we talking something minimal?

[TWISFM]

should be small getting a picture of it in a few days. but the seller said it was minimal.

[ZOOMit]

if it's minimal your probably okay. I've had one on one of my stockers and i ran it like that for 4yrs before I swapped rims out. Just depends on how thick and long the crack is. (get yer mind outta the gutter) lol

[Sveivo]

should be small getting a picture of it in a few days. but the seller said it was minimal.

Not worth the headache to me. You're spending the money anyway. Think about it :D

[Dom 2.0L]

Dead battery here I think. It was really cold those past days and I didn't start the car for I think 3 days because there was too much shoveling to do before reaching the street. Now it won't start and it clicks. Any tips about the battery? Would it be dead? What should I buy next if it is? I'm thinking about getting a block heater. Is it worth it? Asking for any help I can get!

Thx!
-Dom

[Sveivo]

Dead battery here I think. It was really cold those past days and I didn't start the car for I think 3 days because there was too much shoveling to do before reaching the street. Now it won't start and it clicks. Any tips about the battery? Would it be dead? What should I buy next if it is? I'm thinking about getting a block heater. Is it worth it? Asking for any help I can get!

Thx!
-Dom
I don't doubt it's dead if it's dead cold where you live, especially if it sat for a couple days. My old battery would perform considerably worse if I didn't drive for a few days. But the cold just pwns it.

I recently got rid of my stock battery (yes, stock :P). "Upgraded" to a Diehard Gold (640 CCA). It does the job.

[Dom 2.0L]

Ok I would keep the name in mind, anyone else live in freakin' cold places and changed their battery? I would like a couple of good brands to look for and prices if possible

[fremast]

I agree it sounds like you've got a dead battery...
Recently went through the same thing with my stocker, though it never quite quit on me... was really close (cranking amps were down to like 200)...

I did some research, and chose an Optima red top myself...
And right after I installed it, the starter cranked like crazy in 19 degree farenheight weather... felt like I could have raced the car on the starter motor alone... 8-)

[Dom 2.0L]

Ok, took note of the Optima Red top! I think many people run this battery too on the forum from what I saw in pics. Where's the best place to buy it? And are there others you guys would suggest?

[nc p5]

optima red top only way to go!!!

[mx-p5]

taking the wife's car today, instead of the PT. Hopefully get the rear fenders rolled, then hope to hear back about my car today, if i need a new motor, or if the warranty company wants to put a bandaid on the current block

[SATimko]

optima red top only way to go!!!

They are nice. My Yellow top died in 13 months however. Warranty is 12... Talk about pissed!

[evilmonkeyMSP]

meh, always seemed like wasted money to me....no issues w/ the duralast i put and have had for a few years (dunno)

[SATimko]

Yeah. After my issues with the Yellow Top, I said screw it and went Duralast too. Why pay 3x more for a battery that lasted half as long? Hopefully my incident was a rare thing.