What have you done to your P5 today?

[D-Cash24]

Did the fog light mod heres a pic of it at night.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2585000-2585999/2585581_28_full.jpg

[mx-p5]

Oh, forgot to say, bought a set of amber side markers to match the bumper lights.

Foglight mod looks good!! What bulbs are you running in the turnsignals?

Tylor

[MTV]

Oh, forgot to say, bought a set of amber side markers to match the bumper lights.

Foglight mod looks good!! What bulbs are you running in the turnsignals?

Tylor

Ya +1. What bulbs are those?

[D-Cash24]

I dont remember what i have in there exactly but i believe they are a set of PIAA blue bulbs. i dont think that they are legal due to a flashing "blue" light but they look more white with a blue tint in person.

p.s. MTV i like what you have done to your car, looks a lot like mine.

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

Trying to buy new bulbs...AGAIN for the drivers side...since I've had this car, I've blown maybe 4 sets of bulbs, including 3 Silverstars...and only on the drivers side...getting sick and tired of all these bulbs blowing(even blew the stock bulb...)

[nautical_lifens]

buy hid's there more reliable.. and if you get a set with a lifetime warrenty then your set

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

But I'd rather get the volts checked that are running through thse wires cuz either way, the HID's could also blow, less of a chance of course, but still a chance seeing as to how many I have blown on non HID bulbs...

[MTV]

I dont remember what i have in there exactly but i believe they are a set of PIAA blue bulbs. i dont think that they are legal due to a flashing "blue" light but they look more white with a blue tint in person.

p.s. MTV i like what you have done to your car, looks a lot like mine.

Thanks man.

[808MP5]

bought new bolts for my adjustable cams. Set both exhaust and intake cams advanced 3 degrees. Seems a little more responsive. Also went to the dyno shop and their prices for three dyno runs is pretty high. $100+tax for three runs. I also asked them how much to tune my cams and they said $300. To me that seems pretty high considering I could just PAU for three dyno runs and adjust the sh1t myself between each run. Hmmm.

Damn Taylor I hope u get a new motor. That would be sick.

[StealthWyvern]

washed it including the door and hatch jams

[Yaggie1]

washed it including the door and hatch jams

Lucky, all I did was add some more salt and dirt to the exterior of mine.....

[808MP5]

Lucky, all I did was add some more salt and dirt to the exterior of mine.....

that's a perfectly natural occurence. I do that everyday. Not to mention add about 50miles also.

[Yaggie1]

that's a perfectly natural occurence. I do that everyday. Not to mention add about 50miles also.

I hear you there, I got 65 miles one way to work everyday....

[Woody54]

washed it including the door and hatch jams

are there times when you don't wash the door jams?

[ColdSteel]

Looked at her longingly from the front window. Then went back to doing homework. (bang)

[ZOOMit]

I hear you there, I got 65 miles one way to work everyday....

I thought I had it bad at 45miles one way...I had left her outside in the airport parking lot for 4 days. Not a scratch on her! (alright) ...I missed my baby! lol

[808MP5]

dang u guys got some far drives. What's that a tank every 3 1/2 days. And gas isn't getting any cheaper.

[aMaff]

I drive 6 miles to work (alright)

[nc p5]

Ijust installed a new mazdaspeed exhaust!!!

[StealthWyvern]

are there times when you don't wash the door jams?

yes their are times when I dont wash the door jams. It only needs it in roughly a 1:3 ratio of when i wash the car. Well I take that back the top of the rear hatch jam needs it more often, but they dotn get as dirty as you would think.

[Kymerik]

This should have been for yesterday but yeah, Installed my Infinity Kappas :) Now they just need the amplifier to bring out the loudness :) that's later today though, bout to leave to get the wood and misc hardware to make the false floor.
btw, the stock tweeter molding SUCKS! only pressure between the grill on the kappa tweeter and the door's interior sheet metal are holding the tweeters in place, at least its a tight squeeze so it works out

[jhillzoom]

Doing head light black out, and polishing the lenses with the 5 min headlamp kit followed by PlastX right now. The calipers are getting painted tomorrow, and then a good wash (including the door jams).(spin)

[Yaggie1]

dang u guys got some far drives. What's that a tank every 3 1/2 days. And gas isn't getting any cheaper.

Oh yeah, few trips to and from work and mine's empty.....

[EMPIRE]

Anyone looking for koing hotswaps?

[magnumP5]

Rear swaybar install = epic fail...

Need 22 mm wrench/socket for transmission fluid change...

Not enough space for seafoam so no oil change today...

Well, at least I'm still working on the Mazda6 rear wiper mod. 1 for 5 today and still going...

[ZOOMit]

Oh yeah, few trips to and from work and mine's empty.....

+1

I know what you mean....The exhaust drone and van halen keep me company though

(band2)

[Circuit]

Sent payment for an AWR header today. Woot!

[whitemp5seattle]

nice! where did you find it? AWR headers aren't being made anymore...

[Circuit]

nice! where did you find it? AWR headers aren't being made anymore...

One of the members on our local forum was selling it. I just had to grab it, even though my audio system isn't even done yet, it was just something you can't let go.

[evilmonkeyMSP]

finally ditched the shitty metra kit and installed the MSP pocket and cross bar....much better.

[Kymerik]

finally ditched the shitty metra kit and installed the MSP pocket and cross bar....much better.

the what? sorry for asking for an explanation but I'm still learning this car

[i12drivemyMP5]

I did this..........No, the emblem isn't stuck on. Left it plain took the polish down a bit so it's more silver.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/i12drivemyMP5/PKGTRAY8.JPG

edit - OK, Brach did this at my request. I trimmed it to fit, rounded the corners to match indention & fastened it down with 2 aluminum binding posts.

[Salmon_Rob]

thats really fucking cool

[jhillzoom]

Thats bas ass! know where I can find a MP5 emblem?

[ZOOMit]

That's looks awesome

[evilmonkeyMSP]

i tossed out the shitty surround you get to install an aftermarket CD player and replaced it w/ the CD pocket that comes in the MSP/Mp3
the what? sorry for asking for an explanation but I'm still learning this car

[MTV]

i tossed out the shitty surround you get to install an aftermarket CD player and replaced it w/ the CD pocket that comes in the MSP/Mp3

The one that opens and closes?

[evilmonkeyMSP]

yeah, i just took some pics w/ my phone...hold on

[evilmonkeyMSP]

Pic 1 is what WAS installed.

And pic 2/3 is whats installed now. To do it you need to order the cross bar that mounts in the middle to seperate where the HU goes and where the pocket goes. You also need to find a pocket from a MSP or MP3.

Looks much better!

pardon the camera phone pics

[MTV]

Really nice. What I like about it is that you can hide all your stuff in there.

Where did you get it from?

[CTt3P5]

Keep checking the f/s threads and put up a wtb thread. I have seen them go anywhere from $35 to $85 used. New they are about $100 (pocket) and $15 (support bar) from onlinemazdaparts.

I just saw one yesterday in the f/s section....maybe he still has it?

**edit**Just checked and it is gone....

[MTV]

Keep checking the f/s threads and put up a wtb thread. I have seen them go anywhere from $35 to $85 used. New they are about $100 (pocket) and $15 (support bar) from onlinemazdaparts.

I just saw one yesterday in the f/s section....maybe he still has it?

Thanks for the info man.

I might get one, I might not. The thing is, I keep my phone in that pocket and when I have the music on loud, the only way I know it's ringing is when I see the screen lit up. With this particular pocket, I'd be missing calls night and day..

So I'll see.

[Salmon_Rob]

so today i changed my oil, replaced many bushings, lubed many things, and washed and waxed the car. twas a fun busy day

[MTV]

I just let mine chill in the garage while I did homework all day.

[Kymerik]

Let's see, changed the oil, bought an alternator belt (mine's squeeling) but havent got around to putting it on yet.

[Kymerik]

Oh yeah and bought a new subwoofer to make the false floor an easier job and to prevent losing too much vertical space:

Pioneer TS-SW301 Shallow Series Sub - 250RMS 1000MAX - its only 3.5" deep , i decided against the 350RMS 1400MAX --

[evilmonkeyMSP]

lol ive had it sitting in my garage for over a year, just got it from a member on the boards.
Really nice. What I like about it is that you can hide all your stuff in there.

Where did you get it from?

[MTV]

Let's see, changed the oil, bought an alternator belt (mine's squeeling) but havent got around to putting it on yet.

Same here, alternator belt squeel...

I'm just gonna have to keep WD-40'ing it until I get it tightened in a few days. :'(

[magnumP5]

so today i changed my oil, replaced many bushings, lubed many things
I thought this thread was for what you did to your P5 today... ;)

[Salmon_Rob]

heheheheheh ;) you know me i get excited

[JPB-Pro5]

lubed many things...

K Y would you do that?(rofl2)

[Salmon_Rob]

lube makes everything better ;)

[NCZ13]

lube makes everything better ;)

minus food. ive never been in a situation where im eating a nice meal and i think to myself. wow this could sure use some lube.

[JPB-Pro5]

minus food. ive never been in a situation where im eating a nice meal and i think to myself. wow this could sure use some lube.

Mayo!FTW!(glare)

[mx-p5]

I black'd out the headlights on the wife's white Pro5 and installed the TechOne kit from Protophile. Not a bad weekend for not having my car.

Oh, and EvilMonkeyMSP, I picked up the last RX-7 Walmart had. These things are selling like crazy!!!!! They had over a dozen of the RX-7 when I went in the first time and got mine. Went back for yours 2 days later and there was only one left!! Eitherway, I got it, so, i'll be bringing it to Classic Mazda

Now the pics

Tylor

[evilmonkeyMSP]

yeah that looks great on the white...

and sweet! (alright)

[Salmon_Rob]

minus food. ive never been in a situation where im eating a nice meal and i think to myself. wow this could sure use some lube.what about a nice whole cucumber

[evilmonkeyMSP]

and.........now i've thrown up.

[aMaff]

what about a nice whole cucumber

wow, you would too...



(rlaugh)

That kinda reminds me of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY8jaGs7xJ0

[Salmon_Rob]

bwahahahahhaahah

[aMaff]

him and you, in the nude, bein rude, doin stuff with the food!

[Salmon_Rob]

bwahahah

[Nomad]

Applied yellow film to the fogs on my P5 and my Mazda 3 hatch.
Now I'll have to get yellow signal bulbs to get rid of the orange.

[NCZ13]

flight of the conchords is taking over the world.

im getting bluebatmobile smoked tailights w/ reverse and turn cutouts installed today.

sponserships ftw =P

oh and hes thinking about making a template for the rear valence as well.

ill post up pics of how it looks later today.

[knightryder]

Sorry i'm a bit of a newbie with the pro5...but can someone help me locate the O2 sensor?...i got it checked out and mine is failing on me

[evilmonkeyMSP]

which one?

[knightryder]

damn i don't know...i didn't know there was more than one...a buddy just checked it for me and said the O2 sensor was failing...maybe i should get a mmore specific reading haha

[mx-p5]

I believe there is one in the header and one in the midpipe. Please correct me if I'm wrong

Tylor

[knightryder]

oh okay cool...i thought there was one in the headers i just didn't know about the midpipe sensor...thanx

[NCZ13]

I believe there is one in the header and one in the midpipe. Please correct me if I'm wrong

Tylor

no theres 2 in the header. one before the precat and one after.

i believe on the msps theres one after the secondary cat... i could be wrong tho

[mazdaspeed777]

I got my Progress installed with new AWR endlinks:

Comparison to stock:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/8c74cd3ce4d6.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/1f1398b03ce7.jpg

Ready to install:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/975141e1990a.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/26ccc1e1a049.jpg

Installed:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/983fb2210d18.jpg

[mx-p5]

So how does she handle now??? Looks good!!

Tylor

[joneb4evr]

I just bought some oem nozzles for the front windshield. Do they just clip in? Nothing came with them just the nozzle, so I assume. :)

[mx-p5]

Are they OEM Tribute nozzels? Or OEM pro5 nozzels?

As to the install, pull the hose out from the bottom. Just pull straight down.
To get the nozzel out, squeeze the little prongs on the side and push up out of the hood. Then to reinstall, just snap it down in the hood and reattach the hose. Good to go

Tylor

[aMaff]

yup. Pull the hose off of the current nozzle, and use a 10mm socket to disengage the clips. You can work it off from the top of the hood. Then you just push the new ones in and reconnect the hoses

[mx-p5]

10mm socket? Hmm. I managed to get it out with my fingers

[evilmonkeyMSP]

(boom07)

[aMaff]

You can, but it's real easy w/ a deep well 10mm socket.


And yes taylor, that IS what she said.

[evilmonkeyMSP]

lol she?

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

She, he, does it really matter to Muff? Lol.

[aMaff]

lol she?
ooooooh yeaaaaaaah

She, he, does it really matter to Muff? Lol.
LOL you=>(flame2)<=me

[evilmonkeyMSP]

dee dee deee

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

Hahahaha, touche....touche.....

[Kymerik]

I got my Progress installed with new AWR endlinks:

Comparison to stock:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/8c74cd3ce4d6.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/1f1398b03ce7.jpg

Ready to install:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/975141e1990a.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/26ccc1e1a049.jpg

Installed:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/983fb2210d18.jpg

Holy hell that things gigantic compared to stock

[mx-p5]

It looks even bigger the second time around!! And yeah, she said that too

Tylor

[evilmonkeyMSP]

hahahaha

[aMaff]

so you're a grower not a shower huh? (rofl)

[joneb4evr]

Are they OEM Tribute nozzels? Or OEM pro5 nozzels?

As to the install, pull the hose out from the bottom. Just pull straight down.
To get the nozzel out, squeeze the little prongs on the side and push up out of the hood. Then to reinstall, just snap it down in the hood and reattach the hose. Good to go

Tylor

They are for the pro5. I was considering getting the tribute ones, but i figured I'll just stick to stock pee streams, instead of the spray. My brother had installed the ones with the LED lights (chrome, with white lights) and I don't like them, they look stupid. So I went back to stock. I'll stick them on during one of my breaks here at work. Thanks :)

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

so you're a grower not a shower huh? (rofl)


I have a shower...does that count? Lol.

[mazdaspeed777]

So how does she handle now??? Looks good!!

Tylor

Have not had a chance to take her on a drive yet. I am painting my M3 side mirrors and trying to get the remains of the Damn front stock endlinks so I can install AWR endlinks in the front as well.

[Demoniam]

New rims and tires

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2088/2258789228_f8fd6d72a0_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2136/2258789236_2ddcff176d_b.jpg

[mazdaspeed777]

^^^lucky!!!^^^

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

Is it just me or is your car asking to be lowered? Great looking car though :)

[Kymerik]

Is it just me or is your car asking to be lowered? Great looking car though :)

I agree, she's begging to be lowered~

[Demoniam]

eventually, it'll happen!

[THE Phen]

I love the look of the MSP wheels on the P5's. I had a couple non-Mazda people comment on the ones on mine before winter hit.

[MTV]

Demoniam, you da man! MazdaSpeed Racing Harts FTW.

Now get a drop man, the car really needs it!

Matt

[MTV]

Forgot to ask... What size tires are you running?

[joneb4evr]

Finally put on the stock p5 washer nozzle jets. they aren't too bad. :) i angled mine just right so the washer fluid can spread pretty good across the whole windshield when the wipers pass.

[CTt3P5]

I black'd out the headlights on the wife's white Pro5 and installed the TechOne kit from Protophile. Not a bad weekend for not having my car.

Oh, and EvilMonkeyMSP, I picked up the last RX-7 Walmart had. These things are selling like crazy!!!!! They had over a dozen of the RX-7 when I went in the first time and got mine. Went back for yours 2 days later and there was only one left!! Eitherway, I got it, so, i'll be bringing it to Classic Mazda

Now the pics

Tylor

Lookin' good. Does she like the end result?

I picked up two of the RX-7's as well. But they were the only two on the shelf when I went.


New rims and tires

Drool.....I <3 those wheels.

[magnumP5]

I got my Progress installed with new AWR endlinks:
Very nice! I was supposed to do that this past weekend but the rear endlinks owned me. How do you have the AWR endlinks setup? I'm curious because I need to get new ones and am debating between the AWRs and the OEM. How does 'preloading' the swaybar affect handling?

[o.g.sk8er]

The AWR problems people are talking about are due to installation error.
Everybody seems to think the car should be off the ground when installing these. In fact it should be on the ground.
Tony @ AWR and I went through this at his shop.
When installing these end links, you must install them with no binding of any kind. Everything must be relaxed. The bolts must be able to go through the end link, the sway bar/strut with no binding at all. Its kind of hard to explain.
The way I install mine is as follows:
You should do this one side at a time.
Install the end link on the strut first. Tighten this down all the way, leaving the bottom one loose. Line up the bottom bolt of end link and make sure it goes in straight in without any hang ups or binding. It should go in and out smoothly. You may have to loosen the jam nut and adjust accodingly. Once you have determined that everything is good, go ahead and tighten up the lower endlink bolt.


If you tighten all this stuff up while your car is off the ground, the end links will bend, no question.

[magnumP5]

^^^ Considering that I'm dropped about 2" all around and don't have a lift that will prove to be difficult. I also don't have those drive-on ramp things; only jack stands and a pneumatic jack. I suppose I could always support the rear of the car on the stands and then jack up each tire with the jack to allow for install?

Again, only part of my question was answered. What is the point of the adjustability of these? Is it just to make them fit correctly for different applications or is there a rear difference in handling?

[mazdaspeed777]

Hmmm... Yah magnum. I installed them while the car was jacked up and rear wheels off. I have not driven the car yet so maybe I should remove them and install them like ogsk8er suggested. Going to have to buy wedge ramps though.

Has anyone else had there AWR endlinks bend after installing them while the car is jacked up?? I dont see how it would make a different since the sway bar just pivots in place after you lower it anyway. If it was really critical to install while the car is on the ground then I would think they would have put that in the directions they sent with the endlinks.

[Demoniam]

Forgot to ask... What size tires are you running?
215/45/z17

[A louie]

^^^ Considering that I'm dropped about 2" all around and don't have a lift that will prove to be difficult. I also don't have those drive-on ramp things; only jack stands and a pneumatic jack. I suppose I could always support the rear of the car on the stands and then jack up each tire with the jack to allow for install?

Again, only part of my question was answered. What is the point of the adjustability of these? Is it just to make them fit correctly for different applications or is there a rear difference in handling?

I have some ramps you can borrow next time you are in the 757

[magnumP5]

I have some ramps you can borrow next time you are in the 757
Make take you up on that but I hope to God I'm not driving around that long without a rear swaybar. It's a very funny feeling - the front being planted and the rear swinging all over the place...

[mazdaspeed777]

Make take you up on that but I hope to God I'm not driving around that long without a rear swaybar. It's a very funny feeling - the front being planted and the rear swinging all over the place...

I have been driving around with no front or rear sway bar connected(had to cut all stock endlinks to get my Espilers on) for the past 3-4 months. Not any more though

[o.g.sk8er]

Has anyone else had there AWR endlinks bend after installing them while the car is jacked up??

yes..I have. Here's the ending result. They look worse in person. I had some really bad ones, but I cant find them.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/o.g.sk8er/AWR.jpg

I have a hard time putting my thoughts into words on this one. The is something that you kinda get a feel for. It's not just throw them on and go...this is why people are having noises, wear, and bending. I have no noises, no wear, nothing. Just works.

Also, I hope this will answer your question magnum.
I believe the point of the adjustability, is for the use of many different sway bars. The object is to get whatever bar you are using, as level with the ground as possible. (I hope that make sense.) If you have the end links too short, the bar will fold over itself and bend the links and possibly break the brackets as well. I did this once, and I learned. Conversely, if you extend the end links too long, then it will hyper extend, so to speak. I did this as well.

Guys, I'm telling you the best way is make sure everything is relaxed, and the sway bar level with the ground. I have found this to be the most reliable, and provides the best performance.

Have a look at what I mean by having the sway bar level with the ground:
http://www.msprotege.com/members/o.g.sk8er/AWR%20008.jpg
http://www.msprotege.com/members/o.g.sk8er/AWR%20009.jpg

Notice the rear bar is about level with the ground. I believe this is the key...
This is what works for me. All set ups are different, but my car seems happy this way. hehe

[Kymerik]

Cleaned my EGR valve today sortof, couldnt get it seperated from the solenoid so i used Qtips and BrakeKleen. However now it's throwing a code :/ need to find out what that is :/ and yes before you ask i tightened everything back down and connected everything back up...oh well

[Kymerik]

correction, no more CEL :) yay must not have liked the brake kleen residue

[mx-p5]

Lookin' good. Does she like the end result?

Yeah, she loves it!! But, she's not sure about her HID kit. I ordered the TechOne 4000K kit, but on fireup it's super blue!! No tint of purple, but very blue!! She feels like she's having a harder time seeing now as opposed to her halogens. I mean, the bulbs are WAY brighter, but the color temp isn't quite right for her. I'm gonna try to pickup a Catz yellow fog and see if adding a really bright yellow will help with the contrast for her.


As to my car, the warranty adjuster didn't showup yesterdy to look at the motor, so, she still sits. And I still roll in a minivan


Tylor

[Chicoloco]

Yeah, she loves it!! But, she's not sure about her HID kit. I ordered the TechOne 4000K kit, but on fireup it's super blue!! No tint of purple, but very blue!! She feels like she's having a harder time seeing now as opposed to her halogens. I mean, the bulbs are WAY brighter, but the color temp isn't quite right for her. I'm gonna try to pickup a Catz yellow fog and see if adding a really bright yellow will help with the contrast for her.


As to my car, the warranty adjuster didn't showup yesterdy to look at the motor, so, she still sits. And I still roll in a minivan


Tylor


I think you should check that out, where you ordered them. Sounds like you have different bulb temps. 4000k should be whiteish/VERY bright . How do they look when they have warmed up?

[mx-p5]

on startup, they're VERY BLUE!! as they've warmed, they still look blue. It almost monotones everything out. It's strange. My 4300Kit looks like the flippin sun is out. Keeps the colors normal. Her kit just washes everything out. It's hard to describe. But, it could also be the 2300K PIAA fogs I've got adding to it on my car keeping things normal. I 'm not sure.

I pm'd Protophile to see if there is a way to check bulb temp. Just waiting to hear back.



Tylor

[Chicoloco]

Sounds like you have wrong bulbs. Is there a way you can check their temps? Like does it have something printed on them?

[magnumP5]

...useful information...
So how exactly did you install these if you didn't jack up the rear of the car? Did you use ramps or did you just do it on the ground (seems difficult).

[evilmonkeyMSP]

ramps is the easiest way. That way the suspension stays loaded...

[aMaff]

or... remove wheels, put the car on jack stands, then jack the car at the bottom of the knuckle to the point where the suspension just takes the weight of the car off of the jack stand, and do it there with the suspension loaded to ride height.

[evilmonkeyMSP]

lol ramps sounds easier to me (crazy)

:p

[aMaff]

yeah, but then you're under the car working with not a lot of room. This way, you've got easy access to all the parts you're working with, and more room to swing tools.

[evilmonkeyMSP]

that = truth

[aMaff]

It's one of those 5 minute things that will save you 15 minutes of frustration if you go the 'easy' route.

[mazdaspeed777]

yes..I have. Here's the ending result. They look worse in person. I had some really bad ones, but I cant find them.

I have a hard time putting my thoughts into words on this one. The is something that you kinda get a feel for. It's not just throw them on and go...this is why people are having noises, wear, and bending. I have no noises, no wear, nothing. Just works.

Also, I hope this will answer your question magnum.
I believe the point of the adjustability, is for the use of many different sway bars. The object is to get whatever bar you are using, as level with the ground as possible. (I hope that make sense.) If you have the end links too short, the bar will fold over itself and bend the links and possibly break the brackets as well. I did this once, and I learned. Conversely, if you extend the end links too long, then it will hyper extend, so to speak. I did this as well.

Guys, I'm telling you the best way is make sure everything is relaxed, and the sway bar level with the ground. I have found this to be the most reliable, and provides the best performance.

Notice the rear bar is about level with the ground. I believe this is the key...
This is what works for me. All set ups are different, but my car seems happy this way. hehe

So basically I need to adjust my AWR endlinks to the point where the sway bar is level with the ground where ever that may be? So I have not driven my car or moved it at all since I installed my Progress sway bar and AWR endlinks. I installed them with the car jacked up so do you think the AWR endlinks would have bent just by lowering it back down, or does that come after driving it? I will have to check tonight to see if they are bent, I really hope not. I cannot afford to buy another pair! Man AWR should really put this into there install instructions, arent they at falt for the bent endlinks if they dont mention this in the instructions?

[o.g.sk8er]

hehe..I'm really skinny so for me to get under the car without ramps is not a problem. lol
But yea, ramps will make it easier. You can get these ramps pretty cheap at Pep Boys. I think mine were $19.95.

[o.g.sk8er]

So basically I need to adjust my AWR endlinks to the point where the sway bar is level with the ground where ever that may be? So I have not driven my car or moved it at all since I installed my Progress sway bar and AWR endlinks. I installed them with the car jacked up so do you think the AWR endlinks would have bent just by lowering it back down, or does that come after driving it? I will have to check tonight to see if they are bent, I really hope not. I cannot afford to buy another pair! Man AWR should really put this into there install instructions, arent they at falt for the bent endlinks if they dont mention this in the instructions?

yes..try to adjust the bar so it's level with the ground. I really doubt you bent anything by lowering the car on the ground. I found that when things bent it was when I was screaming around a turn and the inside wheel would hit a nasty bump causing them to bend. or going in a driveway too fast at an angle. Try to avoid this. I think you are fine.

I'm interested in seeing these instructions. I have never seen any instruction for the end links. Anyway you can scan it? :p

[aMaff]

yes..try to adjust the bar so it's level with the ground.

That's called zero pre-load. If the bar's at any angle, with the ground, it's got load on it. If you're sitting still and it's got load on it, it's pre-loaded. The goal is zero pre-load.

[o.g.sk8er]

Exactly!~ well said!

[CTt3P5]

That's called zero pre-load. If the bar's at any angle, with the ground, it's got load on it. If you're sitting still and it's got load on it, it's pre-loaded. The goal is zero pre-load.

Word(s) for the day - zero pre-load Never knew that...thanks for the edamacasion.

Pulled the cover for the Mazda6 wagon rear wiper off and cut the annoying tab off with an exacto knife. Now I can raise the wiper off the glass without removing the cover. Especially nice on a day like this....when we are supposed to get 1-3 inches of snow and 1/2 inch of ice.

The cover does fit snug but I noticed that the cover now swings freely off the glass as well. Has anyone else who has done this lost the cover while traveling at highway speeds?

[mx-p5]

Have yet to do the 6 mod, so, nope. No lost covers.

[aMaff]

Word(s) for the day - zero pre-load Never knew that...thanks for the edamacasion.

LOL glad to be of service :)

[magnumP5]

or... remove wheels, put the car on jack stands, then jack the car at the bottom of the knuckle to the point where the suspension just takes the weight of the car off of the jack stand, and do it there with the suspension loaded to ride height.
That's a very novel idea. Might just have to try that now. A wealth of helpful information in here lately

[CTt3P5]

Have yet to do the 6 mod, so, nope. No lost covers.

Didn't do this yet? Oh, forgot you are taking the neighborhood kids to soccer practice this week....

Sorry couldn't resist any longer. :)

Well, just in case I am going to order a spare from onlinemazdaparts when I order the clips for my roof filler strips. Just trying to think of what else I can add to the list.

[aMaff]

That's a very novel idea. Might just have to try that now. A wealth of helpful information in here lately

I did that to set up the endlinks for the the front sway bar of the miata. Only problem is you need 2 jacks to get it to work. You'll set the 1st one, but then you have to hold it in position for when you do the other side.

[mx-p5]

Didn't do this yet? Oh, forgot you are taking the neighborhood kids to soccer practice this week....

Sorry couldn't resist any longer. :)




LOL. Yeah. and probably next week as well. Rental company just told me to keep the van, as they are making more money renting thier cars to others. Noone wants the van. Oh well. Still waiting to hear what's gonna happen with my motor. This sucks

Tylor

[evilmonkeyMSP]

lol

[i12drivemyMP5]

I did that to set up the endlinks for the the front sway bar of the miata. Only problem is you need 2 jacks to get it to work. You'll set the 1st one, but then you have to hold it in position for when you do the other side. Yeah, I did mine like that. Floorjack to lift & factory scissor jack to unload endlink until it pulled right out of the sway & strut by hand. Went back in same way. Preload for Rear stb - no preload for endlinks.

[magnumP5]

I did that to set up the endlinks for the the front sway bar of the miata. Only problem is you need 2 jacks to get it to work. You'll set the 1st one, but then you have to hold it in position for when you do the other side.
Yeah I've got a 2 ton pneumatic jack and the stock one so I think I should be fine. Guess it's settled, AWRs for me.

[mx-p5]

lol. I posted, saw it was wrong, checked another thread, comeback and it's magically fixed!!!








Then I noticed it had been edited. Nice. I like the reasoning though. I don't suck at it, I just suck at copy paste. I had already posted, then went back to copy the previous post and edited mine.

Tylor

[CTt3P5]

lol. I posted, saw it was wrong, checked another thread, comeback and it's magically fixed!!!








Then I noticed it had been edited. Nice. I like the reasoning though. I don't suck at it, I just suck at copy paste. I had already posted, then went back to copy the previous post and edited mine.

Tylor

Huh?

[aMaff]

I edited one of his posts because apparently he doesn't suck at HTML tags, but sucks at life instead :p

Something about panties in a wad, I'm not even really sure anymore.
(alright)

[mx-p5]

Thongs don't wad my friend. You know that

[aMaff]

LOL yeah, I totally didn't see that coming. (pukey)

[mx-p5]

Oh snap! Mechanic is telling me I will probably need a new shortblock. I just looked up onlinemazdaparts.com and the MSRP for a new shortblock is $3200. Protegegarage is selling the Speedcircuit forged built engine for $3600. Hmmmmm........I am more than willing to pay the $400 difference. Difficulty comes in if the mechanic can get that motor somehow under the warranty company. I'm not looking to have the warranty company cover the motor once it's in. I'm just curious if I can use the check for the new shortblock on the forged engine. Time to call the mechanic back.

Tylor

[evilmonkeyMSP]

the warranty co will probably have to make the decision as they would be responsible for covering breakage

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

Unless warranty is up on the car.

[aMaff]

Unless warranty is up on the car.

Thanks, that was some excellent insight. Considering he's been talking about the warranty for a good while now, I think it's safe to assume that it is still under warranty

(gossip)

[evilmonkeyMSP]

LMAO Balls = kicked!
Thanks, that was some excellent insight. Considering he's been talking about the warranty for a good while now, I think it's safe to assume that it is still under warranty

(gossip)

[StealthWyvern]

Thanks, that was some excellent insight. Considering he's been talking about the warranty for a good while now, I think it's safe to assume that it is still under warranty

(gossip)

Captin Obvious to the resuce! lol

[aMaff]

LMAO Balls = kicked!
(first)

Captin Obvious to the resuce! lol
Hey, I do what I can!

[mx-p5]

lol. Too funny too funny!! Yeah, I got a 2 year 24,000 mile warranty. I bought the car 4 months ago(roughly)

Muff's the man

Balls=Kicked. ROTFL

Tylor

[A louie]

Do I hear balls?!?!?!

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

No...no balls for P5 owners.

Going back to stock tires and wheels for a while untill I can get some good tires...any recomendations? Looking at the g-force Sport.

[aMaff]

I've heard nothing but good things about Kumho SPTs. They will be the next tires to grace the P5 :)

[Kymerik]

I've always loved Dunlop DZ101's~ i had 2 sets on my cougar, super sticky, stiff sidewalls, i loved them, just DONT DRIVE IN SNOW!

[magnumP5]

I've heard nothing but good things about Kumho SPTs. They will be the next tires to grace the P5 :)
+1 Very good tires - not loud at all with good treadwear. They're a little soft on the sidewalls but you'd noticed that only with 'hard' driving. I currently have these but will probably be upgrading to some Azenis or the like in the future.

[Woody54]

drove her to the chicago auto show today... i love looking at nice new cars (2thumbs). the new lexus IS-F is so sick. 450hp v-8 in a lexus, damn son!

[aMaff]

Santa came to my house today!

mmmm, S-techs

[CTt3P5]

Interesting commute home today. By the time I left work there was about a half inch of snow on the ground. Main roads were no problem, just wet. It was the secondary roads that got me.

First untouched road I turned onto I had traction issues. And this stretch was flat, but she kept drifting to the right. So I would back off the gas and then lightly get back on it. At one point I was spinning tires at 2k. So after cruising two blocks at 5-10mph I came across my next hurdle.

A pretty steep hill with a slight bend at the top which also happens to be a 4-way stop. So I accelerate and back off and accelerate and back off, well about half way up, it didn't matter, I was going to the right again even when backing off. So I put the hazards on and backed down the hill. I knew my chances were slim to begin with but wanted to give it a try.

After sliding to a stop at one more intersection and almost sliding past my street, I made it home.

So Kumho Ecsta AST's = good in dry and wet, not so good in even a little bit of snow with tread wear. Last winter I had no issues with them in a similiar storm but they were new. Upon checking the tread depth when I pulled into the driveway both front tires are 5/32nds across the tire. Tires have just over 20k in 16 months.

Sorry I got long winded, just wanted to share.

[CTt3P5]

Santa came to my house today!

mmmm, S-techs

Damn, he missed my house. (mad)



:D

[aMaff]

Damn, he missed my house. (mad)



:D

yeah, I'd have to say between PA and GA, he missed by a good shot!

[CTt3P5]

yeah, I'd have to say between PA and GA, he missed by a good shot!

Haha or he simply got confused with the P and the G and misdelivered my springs to you. Kindly forward them my way at your expense. :rolleyes:

[JPB-Pro5]

Santa came to my house today!

mmmm, S-techs

I Likey! For the P5? or Miata? Perfect ride height on the P5 and so fun!

[JPB-Pro5]

Washed and clayed the car today. Detailing is both enjoyable and depressing.
I get to find all the "wounds" on my car...Thumbs up to mazda for a crazy thick paint job...(no)

[NCZ13]

Washed and clayed the car today. Detailing is both enjoyable and depressing.
I get to find all the "wounds" on my car...Thumbs up to mazda for a crazy thick paint job...(no)

did you wax afterwards?

clay removes everything... so if you didnt wax you have no protection on your paint right now.

my p5 got a full wash that took about 40 minutes. the wheel rims were polished with mothers metal polish, the exhaust tip got the same treatment. i cleaned my engine bay up with black magic engine detaliler. applied a coat of nxt, wiped that off, and right now the first layer of sealant is curing over night. in the morning im going to remove it, apply another layer, let that dry. than apply 2 coats of gold class just for looks.

tomorrow will be a good day =)

[JPB-Pro5]

Yep def. waxed, feels reeeeal nice, I was stroking my car afterwards untill some redneck drove past with a "dude your gay look" on his face...

Some people just don't understand!!


Is there any way of repairing the plastic or rubber, at the bottom of all the windows? Mine is such an eyesore...

[NCZ13]

Yep def. waxed, feels reeeeal nice, I was stroking my car afterwards untill some redneck drove past with a "dude your gay look" on his face...

Some people just don't understand!!


Is there any way of repairing the plastic or rubber, at the bottom of all the windows? Mine is such an eyesore...

the only way besides replacing it is to use trim dressing. IMO the best over the counter trim dressing is stoners trim. stoners products are really really good. especially their glass cleaner.

where in cali are you?

[JPB-Pro5]

Right on, I'll have to check that out never heard of it... though I probably need to replace mine their so bad.:mad:

[evilmonkeyMSP]

glad to hear the Ecsta AST are good in both conditions....these will be going on the P5 soon seeing as my buddy can get them for me for $300 installed
Interesting commute home today. By the time I left work there was about a half inch of snow on the ground. Main roads were no problem, just wet. It was the secondary roads that got me.

First untouched road I turned onto I had traction issues. And this stretch was flat, but she kept drifting to the right. So I would back off the gas and then lightly get back on it. At one point I was spinning tires at 2k. So after cruising two blocks at 5-10mph I came across my next hurdle.

A pretty steep hill with a slight bend at the top which also happens to be a 4-way stop. So I accelerate and back off and accelerate and back off, well about half way up, it didn't matter, I was going to the right again even when backing off. So I put the hazards on and backed down the hill. I knew my chances were slim to begin with but wanted to give it a try.

After sliding to a stop at one more intersection and almost sliding past my street, I made it home.

So Kumho Ecsta AST's = good in dry and wet, not so good in even a little bit of snow with tread wear. Last winter I had no issues with them in a similiar storm but they were new. Upon checking the tread depth when I pulled into the driveway both front tires are 5/32nds across the tire. Tires have just over 20k in 16 months.

Sorry I got long winded, just wanted to share.

[aMaff]

Haha or he simply got confused with the P and the G and misdelivered my springs to you. Kindly forward them my way at your expense. :rolleyes:
uh...ya man, I'll get right on that.

I Likey! For the P5? or Miata? Perfect ride height on the P5 and so fun!
For the P5. I've got mad custom shizz on the miata y0! It was actually kind of funny. When I opened the box I was like DAYUM these bitches are HUUUUGE! The whole winter I've been messing with 6" x 2.25" hypercoil race springs on the miata. These things are fuh-normous compared tho those lol

[Woody54]

Washed and clayed the car today. Detailing is both enjoyable and depressing.
I get to find all the "wounds" on my car...Thumbs up to mazda for a crazy thick paint job...(no)

i hate finding all the little imperfections. is the mazda touch up paint any good? or is it crappy just like all the others? (don't worry i'm not getting my hopes up)

[evilmonkeyMSP]

i got a botle of yellow touch up paint...its not perfect... i tried it on a couple of spots and its hard to get it to not stand out...I just kept ending up wiping it off lol

[i12drivemyMP5]

Small OBX oil catch can on the vc to intake side. Larger one in mail for pcv to intake manifold side. We'll see on the krank vents. I'm on a "don't feed the animal oil" kick. lol

[aMaff]

Eh, on an NA protege, there shouldn't be hardly any oil coming through those.

[i12drivemyMP5]

Fully understand "should" & "shouldn't". When I did the vtcs removal, whenever that was, the intake manifold had some gold color to it around where the pcv hoses hook into it. There's filmy stuff inside the hose going back from vc to intake. I go thru 1/4 qrt of oil, every 2 weeks which is about 600 miles or so at 75-80mph on frwy. Just recently switched to castrol hi mileage 10-30 from syntech 0-30 german stuff with no difference in consumption. My car doesn't leak, doesn't smoke at startup or at all, pcv is clean & functional. None of the plugs look crazy & the tips are ashy color just like they should be. Compression is all good accross the cylinders. What does that leave?

[Kymerik]

drove her to the chicago auto show today... i love looking at nice new cars (2thumbs). the new lexus IS-F is so sick. 450hp v-8 in a lexus, damn son!

Eh, I think i'd stick with either the CTS-V or hell even a GTR > the ISF

[Redcoat]

Hey JPB...I was patrolling CA auto ads on craigslist and saw your car. Are you actually selling your fine ride?

[mazdaspeed777]

I'm interested in seeing these instructions. I have never seen any instruction for the end links. Anyway you can scan it? :p

Yah, I can try, or I can just copy the page word for word for ya if your interested.

[Kymerik]

Installed the Red LED Dome light~its damn near blood red at night, i effin love it

[MyZmZm]

anyone interested in an 4 layer, all-weather car cover for the p5? i sold my car a few months ago, and still have the cover (custom-fit/sized for the p5) sitting in the garage; used only one winter while i parked the p5, in like-new condition. $250 brand new, asking $150obo.

i also have a thread for my headunit and amp if anyone's interested; check out the fs section :)

[mx-p5]

Installed the Red LED Dome light~its damn near blood red at night, i effin love it

Let's see some pics! Just make sure the flash is off. lol

Tylor

[silver slotege]

I bought it.
Well, it was about a week ago, but you get the picture.

[CTt3P5]

I bought it.
Well, it was about a week ago, but you get the picture.

You can't just post up that you bought it a week ago!! We want details....color, year, 5spd or auto, any mods, do you plan to mod, etc, etc.

BTW Welcome (hi) There is a lot of useful info to be found here.

[o.g.sk8er]

Yah, I can try, or I can just copy the page word for word for ya if your interested.


oooh! That would be great! No big hurry. I appreciate your offer!

[mx-p5]

Welcome welcome again to you sir!! You'll now be broke.


Also, side note for everyone, I updated the aftermarket foglight thread, but, no hits so far. I'm contemplating ordering a set of PIAA 520's or Catz 85 watt yellow fogs. What's the opinions? Is paying the additional $100 for the name PIAA worth it? Or, would I be just as happy with Catz?

Thanks in advance.


And to keep thread related, what did I do today to my Protege? I drove past it sitting at the mechanic's shop. *Sniffle*

[Sliver5]

drove to school back(cabpatch)

[evilmonkeyMSP]

apparently the school didnt work (lol2)


drove to school back(cabpatch)

[CTt3P5]

(lol)

[Kymerik]

I spent an additional 30 minutes trying to find somewhere to run the power cable for my Amplifiers with no avail. It's starting to look like I'm going to need a 2nd set of eyes. Oh and then I drove to work (still here)

[silver slotege]

You can't just post up that you bought it a week ago!! We want details....color, year, 5spd or auto, any mods, do you plan to mod, etc, etc.

BTW Welcome (hi) There is a lot of useful info to be found here.

Yeah, sorry.
Well, I have an '02 Protege5. Its silver, 5-speed (only way to go), black interior. It came with clear taillights, not really a fan, but whatever.

Mods planned... Well, I havent given it much thought yet. Every other car I have ever had, I have modded. So I know I will eventually. I have mostly just been getting the thing into as good of condition as I can. I changed the timing belt with idler and tensioner, water pump, coolant flush, oil flush, new plugs, ect.

Eventually I think I want to go turbo. Seems like a pretty easy job for these cars and lets face it, if you want to go fast, there is no easier way to do it.
In the mean time I want to get a little lower/stiffer ride, better wheels, projector lights... ha, I guess I put more thought into it than I originally thought.

I joined this forum because I used it for a reference when changing my timing belt so I thought I needed to join, learn, and then give back what I can. So here I am.
I am an engineer, so if anyone needs calculations or explanations, let me know. haha.(alright)

[808MP5]

put $20 gas. Got 347.6 miles on one tank. Probably could have gotten a few more but wasn't taking any chances.

[mx-p5]

I am an engineer, so if anyone needs calculations or explanations, let me know. haha.(alright)

Alright, got one for ya.

What is the circumference of a Moose?

(5 bonus points to anyone that can name the reference)

Tylor

[aMaff]

2 trains enter a tunnel. What time does train A reach Perkipsie.

[A louie]

Alright, got one for ya.

What is the circumference of a Moose?

(5 bonus points to anyone that can name the reference)

Tylor

Its Micheal paler with his face in a pie times Douglas Adam square.


But I don't know, thats just what a ninja told me once

[A louie]

2 trains enter a tunnel. What time does train A reach Perkipsie.
Ask yo momma

[mx-p5]

Its Micheal paler with his face in a pie times Douglas Adam square.


But I don't know, thats just what a ninja told me once

5 Bonus points for A louie!!

Don't know what they're good for, but they're always good to have on hand.(mj)

Tylor

[evilmonkeyMSP]

(crazy)

[A louie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpTaBulIL_w

watch it till the end. You will see

[shane02pro5]

That's Too hilarious!!

[CTt3P5]

Parked her in the garage! Woot!!

But only because the MPV was dropped off at the mechanics for inspection/emission testing.

[808MP5]

got my recon permit. Put my hid's back on along with my silverstars and cf eyelids. Plus double sticker my tv antenna boosters to the rear window.

[justanothermp5]

lol at the video
"the powdered sugar wuld be...powdered swords" hahahaha man that was goood

[Foolish]

Ordered tires for it! Woohoo! No more unintentional racing slicks!

[mazdaspeed777]

Hey o.g.sk8er, I tried your advice on making the sway bar parallel to the ground and this is what happened:

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/bfd71445e376.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/a1bd393a4622.jpg

So as you can see one of the control arms now blocks the sway bar from even connecting to the endlinks! Gar! This is even with the car lowered all the way to the ground(not jacked up or on stands). So MagnumP5 I would not suggest you do it like this because it does not work. I don't know if the control arms are set up differently on the sedans or what.

So would anyone know the best setting to adjust my AWR endlinks to? I would think if the endlinks would reach the sway bar to have the endlink ends all the way screwed into the center that would be the strongest stiffest setting

[o.g.sk8er]

wow! I must apologize, as I had no idea that the progress bars ends were that much longer than the RB. I really feel bad about this man. The RB one seems to be ok this way, but yea it is quite obvious this is not true with your progress bar. Well, try to put it back the way it was with the end links relaxed as possible and you should be ok. Again apologies for the confusion.

[magnumP5]

wow! I must apologize, as I had no idea that the progress bars ends were that much longer than the RB. I really feel bad about this man. The RB one seems to be ok this way, but yea it is quite obvious this is not true with your progress bar. Well, try to put it back the way it was with the end links relaxed as possible and you should be ok. Again apologies for the confusion.
So the Racing Beat swaybar has shorter ends than the stock bar? I have both my Progress and stock swaybars sitting here in front of me and they are identical sans thickness. So crap, did I make a mistake ordering the AWR endlinks? I'm beginning to wonder now what the ideal setup would be then? I suppose I could always just make the AWR endlinks the same length as the stockers and reinstall. I mean the stocker never bent/broke and they have been through a lot but then again they also weren't attached to a 22 mm thick swaybar! Anyone have a decent picture of the stock swaybar/endlink setup? I only have a single half-assed pic from when I was removing it.

On another note, my car decided to stall out twice today as I was getting ready to shut her down. I'm really trying to remember if I just accidentally dropped the clutch (7 lb flywheel really gets rid of any lurch) or if she really stalled out. Both times she started right back up just fine with good vac readings. I might just be out of my mind. It is Valentine's Day...

[o.g.sk8er]

this is very strange....have a look at this pic....see how the end link is on the inside of the lateral link? I really have no idea why the progress bar positions the end link on the outside of the bar. (dunno)
http://www.msprotege.com/members/o.g.sk8er/AWR%20009.jpg
I really dont know what to say about all this...(dunno)

oh, and no you didnt make mistake in ordering the end links magnum. You will just have to play around with them and see what works best for your application.

[magnumP5]

this is very strange....have a look at this pic....see how the end link is on the inside of the lateral link? I really have no idea why the progress bar positions the end link on the outside of the bar. (dunno)

I really dont know what to say about all this...(dunno)

oh, and no you didnt make mistake in ordering the end links magnum. You will just have to play around with them and see what works best for your application.
Well the Progress bar is the EXACT same design as stock but just a thicker bar (22 mm as opposed to whatever stock is - 16 mm?). You have the Racing Beat bar off the Mazdaspeed Proteges I assume? Didn't those cars also come with shorter rear endlinks? If so, I now know and can see why. Well I guess I'll just have to wait until my endlinks come in and I'll play around with them then. Mazdaspeed777, let me know if you make any headway!

[o.g.sk8er]

again, strange... I dont think the end links are the issue in this case. On mazdaspeed777's, he cant rotate the sway bar up and down without hitting the lateral links. Mine you can move it up and down without hitting anything.
strange...sorry guys..I have no answer. (peep)

[magnumP5]

again, strange... I dont think the end links are the issue in this case. On mazdaspeed777's, he cant rotate the sway bar up and down without hitting the lateral links. Mine you can move it up and down without hitting anything.
strange...sorry guys..I have no answer. (peep)
You have a P5 right? You haven't changed the rear subframe or anything?

[o.g.sk8er]

yea, yea..P-5 correct. I have AWR trailing arms, Espilier springs, v-brace kit and tokico blues...but, the only difference between the MSP and P5 subframe is just a small mounting tab measuring about 2 or 3 mm.

[JaysP5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpTaBulIL_w

watch it till the end. You will see

I have been watching ask a ninja for almost 2 hours....thanks....im hooked!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzKcPiqmHN4&feature=related the ninja is totally right about Ohio... watery chilli and mediocre sports teams!!!

[mx-p5]

I have been watching ask a ninja for almost 2 hours....thanks....im hooked!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzKcPiqmHN4&feature=related the ninja is totally right about Ohio... watery chilli and mediocre sports teams!!!

Welcome to the dark side.

We're omnibusing now baby!!

Tylor

[i12drivemyMP5]

I mean the stocker never bent/broke and they have been through a lot but then again they also weren't attached to a 22 mm thick swaybar! I have had the Progress 22mm rr sway with oem endlinks attached to tokico Illuminas for quite awhile. Have never broke an endlink or tab on strut nor is there any noise whatsoever. Mine is oriented above the lateral link bar. Close but not touchy.


On a fun note, since the freeway was empty at 4:45a.m., busted 120 in the sport auto like it was nothing. 75-80 to 120 took no time, climbed right up on it. Everything felt same as doing 55 except for wind noise. Car was planted, solid, no vibes, even threw it around a bit, felt great. Flame as you will but noone was around so whatever. Not something that happens more than once in a great while. Gotta know the car's limits.

[magnumP5]

yea, yea..P-5 correct. I have AWR trailing arms, Espilier springs, v-brace kit and tokico blues...but, the only difference between the MSP and P5 subframe is just a small mounting tab measuring about 2 or 3 mm.
I guess the Racing Beat swaybar is just designed differently then. Interesting; I've never read that or heard of anyone reporting this anywhere. Well, I'll make due with the AWRs but I also have some OEM endlinks that should be on the way as well just in case I don't like the AWRs.

[sprinter119]

Finished the piping to my mazdaspeed axleback i now have a mazdaspeed catback and it is LOUD!!!!

[mx-p5]

Finished the piping to my mazdaspeed axleback i now have a mazdaspeed catback and it is LOUD!!!!

Let's hear it! Vid please?

Tylor

[i12drivemyMP5]

I guess the Racing Beat swaybar is just designed differently then. Interesting; I've never read that or heard of anyone reporting this anywhere. Well, I'll make due with the AWRs but I also have some OEM endlinks that should be on the way as well just in case I don't like the AWRs.Are you gonna do the clunk fix with the firewall grommets to keep'em quiet or has that issue been eliminated? I remember back a ways where that was a problem with the AWR's. There was even a how-to for the fix.

[Salmon_Rob]

the racing beat sway bar is designed differently, hence its different endlinks. its oriented more down than the stock, and it has about an inch longer endlinks.

[magnumP5]

Are you gonna do the clunk fix with the firewall grommets to keep'em quiet or has that issue been eliminated? I remember back a ways where that was a problem with the AWR's. There was even a how-to for the fix.
I don't know yet. I know AWR has released at least one revision with the endlinks. I won't really know until I install them and see how they work. I'm just going to try to install them with the least amount of stress and binding possible and see how that goes. If they do prove too noisy, I may just try the grommet-fix (thanks Brian MP5T) and if that doesn't help I'll probably just go back to using the stockers.

[THE Phen]

Buy a big box of O-rings, and put as many of the bloody things as you can on there. It helps, trust me.

[mazdaspeed777]

Hey O.G.sk8er, Dont worry about the mixup, you did not know. Basically the progress sway bar ends are just longer as I believe some of you mentioned above. I will just have to put it back to the way I had it but this time I will adjust the endlinks so the sway bar ends are as close to the the lateral links as possible to have them more parallel to the ground as possible. I will let you guys know what works.

[mx-p5]

Just talked to the mechanic. He put the motor back together and is going to pull it and the trans out of the car. He said there is crap all over the place inside the motor. So, he's just gonna pull the whole motor for the warranty guy to come look at. It NEEDS a new motor he said

I asked about upgrades, IE the new forged motor from Protege Garage. He said we'll cross that bridge when we get there. He said it might be easier to get forged pistons and rods over thew hole motor, but, we'll see. He also told me if I wanted to upgrade the clutch, or anything, now's the time. Labor costs are going to be tack'd onto the warranty company. So, i'll be ordering all new motor and tranny mounts, possibly a new clutch, and afew other goodies.

I'll keep ya'll posted.

Oh, and, no more minivan. They got me into a new Avenger. YIPPEEEEE


Tylor

[evilmonkeyMSP]

lol sweet...

[mx-p5]

Yup. The mechanic thinks I might be able to pull off the SpeedCircuit motor if I pay the difference. Teeheehee. I never thought I'd be so happy that my motor is about to blowup.

Now, quick question, if I were to get the speedcircuit motor, I'd get the 9:1 compression pistons. I don't ever plan on boosting more than 14 psi. It does not come with a head. Can I use my stock head? Or will it need some work?

And, the possibility of not getting the speedcircuit motor, would forged rods and pistons be enough for low boost application? What else should I upgrade while the motor is out?

Tylor

[evilmonkeyMSP]

Kooldino is going to be the one to PM on that....he builds them.

[Kymerik]

So does the new avenger feel like a slug like everyother non-SRT dodge?

[mx-p5]

So does the new avenger feel like a slug like everyother non-SRT dodge?

Sure does. But, that V6 sure screams like I'm flying!!

And I'll PM Kooldino. Thanks for the headsup!!

Tylor

[Foolish]

Took it to the car wash! So shiny!

Also, vacuumed it. It's a much happier car now. :D

[mx-p5]

Well, after researching the SpeedCircuit engine, I don't have a month to wait on the motor to be built, so, I'll be upgrading the motor the warranty company wants to get. I'm gonna have the mechanic quote a new short block from Mazda, MSRP'd at $3200. Then order the same motor through Ken at Protege garage and use the difference plus a little money from me for the forged pistons and rods.


Oh, and here's my new ride for at least the next week.

http://photo.ringo.com/253/253927245O422786802.jpg


Tylor

[808MP5]

sweet loaner. I would trade my car for that.

[Kymerik]

sweet loaner. I would trade my car for that.

I wouldn't...until an SRT version of the Avenger comes around i'm hands off...the 2.4 world i4 isn't impressive, the 3.5L is hardly "high output", it handles like a tank, weighs about as much as one too, oh and Dodge trannies FTL

[mx-p5]

It's a decent rental. I'd NEVER trade the Pro5 in on this thing though!! See how I like it by the end of next week.

Tylor

[808MP5]

wash and wax/polished her for the weekend. Cars all legit/street legal :)

[Woody54]

Yup. The mechanic thinks I might be able to pull off the SpeedCircuit motor if I pay the difference. Teeheehee. I never thought I'd be so happy that my motor is about to blowup.

Now, quick question, if I were to get the speedcircuit motor, I'd get the 9:1 compression pistons. I don't ever plan on boosting more than 14 psi. It does not come with a head. Can I use my stock head? Or will it need some work?

And, the possibility of not getting the speedcircuit motor, would forged rods and pistons be enough for low boost application? What else should I upgrade while the motor is out?

Tylor

I wish my motor had blown up under warranty!

I'd just go buy a beater for a month and wait for the fun motor(drive2)

[mx-p5]

I wish my motor had blown up under warranty!

I'd just go buy a beater for a month and wait for the fun motor(drive2)

I would, but, I don't think the warranty company would understand why it's taking a month to get a motor. I think I'ma just get forged pistons and rods for now.

Tylor

[CTpro5]

Finally have time and nice weather to do my Oil Change+ ATF Flush, and AEM filter wash.
Oil was long overdue(6000 miles). Used my usual oil Mobil1, oil was all black and thick. Then was the auto tran. Flushed using The How to's by Mad Hatter. also long overdue (40,000 and 6 years) used Mobil1 ATF.
The Flush How to's was VERY EASY, and I will say at least 98% Replacement of oil ATF.
Next, will be Brake pads. maybe Hawk hps.

[boostdprotegelx]

I would, but, I don't think the warranty company would understand why it's taking a month to get a motor. I think I'ma just get forged pistons and rods for now.

Tylor

i have a built block ready to sell....
8.5:1 compression, JE pistons Pauter rods. .. you can just bolt your stock head up to it. no problems...Mine's ready to go... we can work something on shipping.

[evilmonkeyMSP]

link?
Finally have time and nice weather to do my Oil Change+ ATF Flush, and AEM filter wash.
Oil was long overdue(6000 miles). Used my usual oil Mobil1, oil was all black and thick. Then was the auto tran. Flushed using The How to's by Mad Hatter. also long overdue (40,000 and 6 years) used Mobil1 ATF.
The Flush How to's was VERY EASY, and I will say at least 98% Replacement of oil ATF.
Next, will be Brake pads. maybe Hawk hps.

[CTpro5]

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94623

[mx-p5]

i have a built block ready to sell....
8.5:1 compression, JE pistons Pauter rods. .. you can just bolt your stock head up to it. no problems...Mine's ready to go... we can work something on shipping.

Thanks for the offer, but, I don't think I'll be take your motor. The mechanic will have to order it. I don't think you can bill him for it. lol. What are you asking for it though? Also, If i were to do the built motor, I wanted the 9:1 compression for lower boost. How many miles are on your motor? Just incase I decide to get your motor anyway to build for the turbo?

Tylor

[boostdprotegelx]

Thanks for the offer, but, I don't think I'll be take your motor. The mechanic will have to order it. I don't think you can bill him for it. lol. What are you asking for it though? Also, If i were to do the built motor, I wanted the 9:1 compression for lower boost. How many miles are on your motor? Just incase I decide to get your motor anyway to build for the turbo?

Tylor

8.5:1 is my compression.(BUILT FOR BOOST)... . it's got like 2k miles on it. i took it out of my engine bay b/c i'm doing 8.0:1 compression..for SERIOUS boost.. .. it's ready to bolt up. you get it. put your head/alternator/etc on and boom done.

and lo0king for a grand.

[mx-p5]

Hmm. $1000? I call dibs till Monday. That's when I hear from the mechanic as to what I'll be doing for sure. 8.5:1 is for what kinda boost? I'll be running less than 14psi. Who built the motor and what specs have you got? Thanks again for the offer!

Tylor

[boostdprotegelx]

Hmm. $1000? I call dibs till Monday. That's when I hear from the mechanic as to what I'll be doing for sure. 8.5:1 is for what kinda boost? I'll be running less than 14psi. Who built the motor and what specs have you got? Thanks again for the offer!

Tylor

to be honest. i don't have specs.

Wagner motorsports built the block for a guy named clintt. I bought it from clintt as he did not even use the motor before he decided to part out due to bills.
Wagner is now closed down. The motor ran great. it was in my car. i just decided on lower compression. Kooldino worked/tuned my car. i need a replacement block, or 200.00 more or so

you can boost high w/ this motor. it'll handle it. just not what i'm gonna throw at it!.

[Circuit]

Yesterday dynamat'ed the floor of the hatch. See my audio build thread for the pic!

[magnumP5]

mazdaspeed or o.g. do either of you guys have pics of your AWR endlinks? I just got mine in the mail and even at their shortest adjustment height they are still like 3.5 inches longer than the stockers. I want to make sure I got sent the correct part and not the front endlinks by accident.

[mazdaspeed777]

mazdaspeed or o.g. do either of you guys have pics of your AWR endlinks? I just got mine in the mail and even at their shortest adjustment height they are still like 3.5 inches longer than the stockers. I want to make sure I got sent the correct part and not the front endlinks by accident.

Here is a pic of my front endlinks I have yet to install do to some stubbern stock endlinks. So if they look anything like these they are front endlinks:

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/9e6ce250e9de.jpg

And here is a pic of the rear endlinks, they are much shortere than the front endlinks. About half as long:

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/26ccc1e1a049.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/983fb2210d18.jpg

[magnumP5]

Here is a pic of my front endlinks I have yet to install do to some stubbern stock endlinks. So if they look anything like these they are front endlinks:

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/9e6ce250e9de.jpg

And here is a pic of the rear endlinks, they are much shortere than the front endlinks. About half as long:

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/26ccc1e1a049.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q82/mazdaspeed777/983fb2210d18.jpg
Well fuck, another screwed up order from PG - that's the second order of mine they've screwed up in less than one year! Yeah, it looks like they sent me the fronts - mine have the same black tube housing and everything. Well looks like I need to get ahold of Ken again...

[mazdaspeed777]

Well fuck, another screwed up order from PG - that's the second order of mine they've screwed up in less than one year! Yeah, it looks like they sent me the fronts - mine have the same black tube housing and everything. Well looks like I need to get ahold of Ken again...

Dang, sucky! Do you have aftermarket front endlinks already? If not you should just keep them and order some rear ones. I bet Ken would give you a discount on the rear ones for your trouble.

[mitchell21]

Installed a blue (to match the exterior) pine tree shape new car secant air freshener .

[Sveivo]

Installed a blue (to match the exterior) pine tree shape new car secant air freshener .

You can say your car is modded now :P