What have you done to your P5 today?

[cboe's_mp5]

Inner pad shaved to bare metal, outer pad looking almost new. I'm not sure exactly what's wrong yet, but I'm going to work with the caliper to make sure the piston isn't frozen. I'm really not in the mood to rebulid it, so I'm hoping I don't have to get into much with it. I've got it torn apart right now and I sprayed a healthy dose of PB Blaster on the piston. We'll see in the morning. I have to find a parts store near me that has the rear rotors in stock tho...


i only read this if you are talkoing about the back break they twis instead of pull/push

[whitemp5seattle]

I don't what I'm gonna do today...I have a lot of free time and it's REALLY sunny outside.

Maybe I'll paint my calipers? thinking about painting them red with some sort of brush on paint...easier that way :p

or maybe I'll install the msp pedals I have sitting around...

[Kansei]

msp pedals ftw!

5.5mm drill bit for the accelerator pedal, 7mm socket for the nut on the back side

and have fun with the clutch/brake pedals :P

[redpr5]

i gotta change out my fronts some day!
yea its definetly worth it along with tweeters, i have to really tune everything though, im not used to having so much high range. (its actually a little too much for me, and i have to turn the gain down on my subs, its WAY too loud lol)

[whitemp5seattle]

msp pedals ftw!

5.5mm drill bit for the accelerator pedal, 7mm socket for the nut on the back side

and have fun with the clutch/brake pedals :P

thanks! I'm about to try the clutch and brake pedals first. if I can get them on then I'll borrow my friends drill to install the accelerator. Wish me luck!

Did you get that nut off the last strut yet?

[whitemp5seattle]

ok got the clutch and brake pedals on...mostly lol

they're about 3/4ths the way on...they're definitely not going anywhere and sit even. I used the metal hook of a bungee cord to help get the darned rubber grommet over the metal. worked well enough for me I guess. my fingers hurt.

[Kansei]

yeah my fingers hurt for a while after getting those on. I had those two on for a couple months before I did the accelerator, and it was a quick job.

wait, that drill bit size I posted is wrong.. that's the allen wrench size you'll need for the bolt that goes through the pedal. I don't recall what the drill bit size was right now >_<

[whitemp5seattle]

4.5mm or 3/16" the instructions say :)

and a 2.5mm allen wrench. you got the 7mm socket wrench right though

[Kansei]

2.5mm?? that's crazy small. I know I had to buy another set because I didn't have half-mm sizes.

Yeah I used a 3/16 drill bit and that worked great.

wait I'm out in the garage right now I can go check.

Yup, 2.5mm it is.

[Mr. 4500 RPM]

i am going to clean the interior, something that has not been done in months for the poor p5, its been neglected recently.

[whitemp5seattle]

2.5mm?? that's crazy small. I know I had to buy another set because I didn't have half-mm sizes.

Yeah I used a 3/16 drill bit and that worked great.

wait I'm out in the garage right now I can go check.

Yup, 2.5mm it is.

how's that last strut going?

[Kansei]

how's that last strut going?

Haven't touched it yet today :P but I did get the 2nd garage laptop set up nicely :P

I also finally adjusted my e-brake .. now it only takes like 4 clicks to be firm, it wasn't like that even when I first got the car :P

I also drilled the hole for the LED for the factory alarm.. I had it drilled before, but I replaced that piece with a new one and the LED has just been dangling. Also the little trim piece down by the accelerator pedal around the floor air vents is finally reinstalled.. probably hasn't been in the car in a year haha.

My gauge cluster beeps again too... but with an 01 or early 02 speaker, my 02.5 speaker was different so I decided to swap.. just a little soldering, and two wires and good to go.

[whitemp5seattle]

I didn't even know you could adjust the parking brake. mine clicks like a bajillion times (about 9 or 10 times actually)

[Kansei]

it's crazy simple to do. Just pull up that trim piece that surrounds the e-brake handle, and on the driver's side of the handle there's a 10mm nut. Just tighten it. I just used a long 10mm socket with a 3" extension, worked great.

[D-rock240]

picked up the car from mr. spoiler with the lip on and such. here are pics, 56 will shit itself. the last one is my fav

Wow much better than the camerphone pic u sent me! Just get some nice springs and you're set, you don't need any aftermarket wheels. Those stock wheels look hot on a well dropped P5 w/the DG lip.

[bazooka joe]

went to the WPI show today...had a good time...nice weather here finally! the ladies appreciate mazda's too!

[Kansei]

Wow much better than the camerphone pic u sent me! Just get some nice springs and you're set, you don't need any aftermarket wheels. Those stock wheels look hot on a well dropped P5 w/the DG lip.

stock wheels with spacers look really nice. they are way too tucked in stock. I had project kics spacers front and rear and it really set off the look, even before I was lowered.

[gottacatchup]

Auto-x :)

[reynoldsrobbie]

today I changed my alternator belt and got the front calipers repainted. No time for the rears today.

[whitemp5seattle]

what paint did you use? brush on or spray?

[PimpSmurf]

Factory says 130, but who cares what the car makes to the crank? The car won't go anywhere w/ just the crank. Knowing what it makes to the ground is a much more useful number.





And wutz isn't a word :p

wutz totally iz a word... hahaha... i just wanna know wut it lookz like on paper... gives me something to compare with my old car... u know about torque though?... itz honestly almost more important, i mean thatz where the car excells

[CTt3P5]

Took a drive thru the mountains in the Poconos to get to Fernwood Resorts for my daughters dance competition. She brought home two (first) and two (second) awards.

[bazooka joe]

Took a drive thru the mountains in the Poconos to get to Fernwood Resorts for my daughters dance competition. She brought home two (first) and two (second) awards.

woot woot!!(2thumbs)

[reynoldsrobbie]

what paint did you use? brush on or spray?
I used Dupli color yellow brake caliper spray paint. In the past Ive done it with the brush on version (red and yellow). So, far this looks to be a brighter yellow! The brush on color looked a lil mustardy. I like it so far. We'll see if it holds up better than the brush on. Ill have to do the rears later this week.

[Mr. 4500 RPM]

well i cleaned the interior and got all the winter crap on the floor and carpets out :) and then took it to a car wash and waxed it by hand. the wax made all the scratches come out and made me want to die :(

[JoshP5]

7:45am - completed thorough washing and drying of P5.
8:05am - Local bird applied improvement to vehicle's finish.

[BadKarma]

7:45am - completed thorough washing and drying of P5.
8:05am - Local bird applied improvement to vehicle's finish.

8:00pm - Josh has duck for dinner...

[redpr5]

My gauge cluster beeps again too... but with an 01 or early 02 speaker, my 02.5 speaker was different so I decided to swap.. just a little soldering, and two wires and good to go.
my car stopped beeping and dinging not too long ago dont know why either. the only time it dings is if the key is in the ignition and the door is open. but other than that it stopped dinging when i start the car.

[whitemp5seattle]

it dings when you start the car? my car doesn't do that...?

[silverpro5]

last night the car was running like HELL, i had to gun the thing and drop the clutch just to get it started and it was misfiring and lurching all over the place. it had brief fits of this behavior over the past few days, but last night was undrivable. finally a CEL came on, so at 1:30am I drove over to trusty autozone, and sure enough P0300 random misfire or some crap. it turns out one of my spark plug boots had come unseated and was arcing across my plug. from a potentially ugly CEL it was only a $1.25 fix for some grease stuff to put between my boots and plugs to help prevent arcing!

i had to laugh at myself at 2:30am in the parking lot of autozone removing my spark plugs. if i hadn't have been so tired i would have been really pissed. autozone FTW!

Also, does anyone else get a lot of transmission noise from their kartboy shifter bushings? Especially in 5th I can really hear the gears wizzing, kinda sounds like a diesel or something.

[Kansei]

it dings when you start the car? my car doesn't do that...?

I don't think it does at all if you have your seatbelt buckled before starting the car.

I finished installing my springs! wewt. I gotta order a couple nuts and washers from mazda to "complete" the job, until then I'm not putting the trunk back together and I'm gonna have some rattles.

What we (myself and an acquaintance from roclife.org) ended up needing to do was clamp onto the strut piston (!) with pipe pliers (not to be confused with a pipe wrench), padded with those blue disposable shop towels they sell at auto parts stores. The trick is that not only do the shop towels protect, they also give grip :)

time to start a thread in the onlinemazdaparts.com section to ask about the strut nuts and those washers with the "D" cutout in them. (spin)

As for the tein s-techs.. zomg they raised my car! Seriously by like a full inch in the rear, and maybe.. 0.25 inches up front. :'( at least she sits evenly now, I hope they settle a little lower. I have no way of testing out the springrates in Rochester because well.. a bunch of flat straight roads is no good way to test handling (bird) , but I did take her over some serious potholes and I gotta say, the ride quality is muuuuuch better now. Didn't feel bouncy at all.

(band)

[Kansei]

last night the car was running like HELL, i had to gun the thing and drop the clutch just to get it started and it was misfiring and lurching all over the place. it had brief fits of this behavior over the past few days, but last night was undrivable. finally a CEL came on, so at 1:30am I drove over to trusty autozone, and sure enough P0300 random misfire or some crap. it turns out one of my spark plug boots had come unseated and was arcing across my plug. from a potentially ugly CEL it was only a $1.25 fix for some grease stuff to put between my boots and plugs to help prevent arcing!

i had to laugh at myself at 2:30am in the parking lot of autozone removing my spark plugs. if i hadn't have been so tired i would have been really pissed. autozone FTW!

Also, does anyone else get a lot of transmission noise from their kartboy shifter bushings? Especially in 5th I can really hear the gears wizzing, kinda sounds like a diesel or something.


duuuuuude you have a 24 hour auto parts store????

(fu) (fu) (fu) (fu) (fu) (fu)

I would kill for that. As long as it was within like 5 miles, it would save me so much stress while working on my car. I know all the auto parts stores aroudn here are open 8a-9m, and usually on sundays close at 5 or 6. :( ftl

[silverpro5]

duuuuuude you have a 24 hour auto parts store????

(fu) (fu) (fu) (fu) (fu) (fu)

I would kill for that. As long as it was within like 5 miles, it would save me so much stress while working on my car. I know all the auto parts stores aroudn here are open 8a-9m, and usually on sundays close at 5 or 6. :( ftl

i know, sweet huh. at around 1am i was looking online at different locations in my area, and one said its hours were "24." I was like NO WAY, so I called and the guys laughed and said "yeah we're open"

[reynoldsrobbie]

duuuuuude you have a 24 hour auto parts store????

(fu) (fu) (fu) (fu) (fu) (fu)

I would kill for that. As long as it was within like 5 miles, it would save me so much stress while working on my car. I know all the auto parts stores aroudn here are open 8a-9m, and usually on sundays close at 5 or 6. :( ftl
I have 2 24hr Autozones within 10 miles of me. FTW!

[reynoldsrobbie]

last night the car was running like HELL, i had to gun the thing and drop the clutch just to get it started and it was misfiring and lurching all over the place. it had brief fits of this behavior over the past few days, but last night was undrivable. finally a CEL came on, so at 1:30am I drove over to trusty autozone, and sure enough P0300 random misfire or some crap. it turns out one of my spark plug boots had come unseated and was arcing across my plug. from a potentially ugly CEL it was only a $1.25 fix for some grease stuff to put between my boots and plugs to help prevent arcing!

i had to laugh at myself at 2:30am in the parking lot of autozone removing my spark plugs. if i hadn't have been so tired i would have been really pissed. autozone FTW!

Also, does anyone else get a lot of transmission noise from their kartboy shifter bushings? Especially in 5th I can really hear the gears wizzing, kinda sounds like a diesel or something.
The shifter bushings shouldnt cause any kind of sound like that. Ive had my B&M with kartboy bushings for around 5 months now and havent had a problem.

[amsgator]

mine kinda grinds when i shift sometimes...idk if it's the bushings or what doin it. its like if i am pushing to go into gear but it's not in gear it kinda grinds. idk weird sound

[silverpro5]

is it maybe the heatshield rattling against the linkage? I definitely noticed it after installing my B&M and Kartboy bushings, no noise at all before. perhaps I should change my tranny fluid as well...

[Rednecks_wife]

We took the P5 to Phoenix International Raceway to watch the NASCAR race last night. Then in the traffic jam getting out Bill thought we just had to watch CARS the movie on all 3 screens in the car.

[Kansei]

is it maybe the heatshield rattling against the linkage? I definitely noticed it after installing my B&M and Kartboy bushings, no noise at all before. perhaps I should change my tranny fluid as well...

You'll get a little whine through the shift lever with the kartboy bushings, that's normal. If it's loud (like other people in the car notice it) then yeah that's probably the heat shield. I had to remove the heat shield and cut a region off so that the shift lever wouldn't hit it (I have the TWM).

[whitemp5seattle]

I have a B&M ss and the kartboy bushings...I notice that when I rest my hand on the shifter (the weight of my hand kinda pulls it one way or another) it makes a tiny whirring noise. When I take my hand off it it's fine. So now I just drive without resting my hand on the shifter all the time

[reynoldsrobbie]

I have a B&M ss and the kartboy bushings...I notice that when I rest my hand on the shifter (the weight of my hand kinda pulls it one way or another) it makes a tiny whirring noise. When I take my hand off it it's fine. So now I just drive without resting my hand on the shifter all the time
Thats wierd, mine doesnt make a sound. I did ditch my heatshield completely though.

[PimpSmurf]

r there any engines that r easy ta do an engine swap with a P5?... cuz this 1.6 is not the honda 1.6 i had in my si and i'm a little disappointed... i wanna know if there r optionz ta go bigger

[GMalatrasi]

is it maybe the heatshield rattling against the linkage? I definitely noticed it after installing my B&M and Kartboy bushings, no noise at all before. perhaps I should change my tranny fluid as well...
Hey are you still looking for a P5 mani?
Is it just the mani or the cat as well?

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

Thanks to Topher, got my CAI in....anyone know where I can find the brace for a CP Racing Strut bar? I got the bar, but no brace to relocate the Cruise Control...?

[redpr5]

I don't think it does at all if you have your seatbelt buckled before starting the car.
oh. lol maybe that was it, idk, i dont remember if i had it on or not, my ADD kicks in a lot in the morning before i go to school lol. so i didnt really pay attention, but that was probably it. cuz it dinged yesterday.

[JoshP5]

r there any engines that r easy ta do an engine swap with a P5?... cuz this 1.6 is not the honda 1.6 i had in my si and i'm a little disappointed... i wanna know if there r optionz ta go bigger
There's a shop in Canada that swaps in the 200hp 2.5L JDM Mazda KL-ZE V6 for like $5K. Search for details.

[silverpro5]

Hey are you still looking for a P5 mani?
Is it just the mani or the cat as well?

well mostly just the j-pipe below the first cat actually

[GMalatrasi]

Oh well I need that one myself... Alrighty good luck then.

[CTt3P5]

woot woot!!(2thumbs)

:)....how did you do in the car show (other than attracting the girls)? :)

[jfoust31]

r there any engines that r easy ta do an engine swap with a P5?... cuz this 1.6 is not the honda 1.6 i had in my si and i'm a little disappointed... i wanna know if there r optionz ta go bigger

reading your post makes my eyes bleed. just because you are on the internet doesn't mean you're not allowed to use real english. wtf is with those "z"s, "r"s, "cuz"s and "ta"s?

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

reading your post makes my eyes bleed. just because you are on the internet doesn't mean you're not allowed to use real english. wtf is with those "z"s, "r"s, "cuz"s and "ta"s?


And your not Mazdas247's spell checker. (poke)

[Kansei]

And your not Mazdas247's spell checker. (poke)

Who is? Can I be the spell checker??

when on the internets, feel free to use "ZOMG" and "LAWL" and "WEWT" and such, but make the rest of the words english :)

[bazooka joe]

:)....how did you do in the car show (other than attracting the girls)? :)

haha...great show...lots of nice cars...no trophies here :( i'm 3 for 4 now!! got 3 more coming up in the nxt cpuple of months:D

[CTt3P5]

haha...great show...lots of nice cars...no trophies here :( i'm 3 for 4 now!! got 3 more coming up in the nxt cpuple of months:D

Sorry to hear that....but here's to the next 3. (drinks)

[JoshP5]

reading your post makes my eyes bleed. just because you are on the internet doesn't mean you're not allowed to use real english. wtf is with those "z"s, "r"s, "cuz"s and "ta"s?

itz kool, yo! (yupnope)

another thing that bugs is punctuation maybe its internet style but it makes it hard to figure it out i'd rather just not read it some members wonder why they don't get responses it's because everyones eyes are bleeding eventually we give up and dont really care to begin with this isn't english class but come on people its about communicating with fellow members have some courtesy.

Number 3 pet peeve is ultralong paragraphs. They just seem to turn me off. I spend all day reading difficult technical papers, so the last thing I want when I spend some leisure time on the forum is to wade through a huge block of text. The 'enter' key is your friend. Outline style facilitates the process. No one's style will change upon reading this, but that's cool. I'll still wade through the long paragraphs, squint my eyes at stylized text, and reread poor sentence structure again and again to extract the meaning. Ok, I'm done. Please proceed with your posting. :)

[aMaff]

*whistle*

Alright, that's out of the way now. Back on topic, or the beatings will continue until grammar improves!

I drove her to work. wewt! zomg mang

[silverpro5]

And your not Mazdas247's spell checker. (poke)

your -> you're

couldn't resist that one :D

[Kansei]

*whistle*

Alright, that's out of the way now. Back on topic, or the beatings will continue until grammar improves!

I drove her to work. wewt! zomg mang

now that's more like it :)

(cabpatch)

I drove my car with my s-techs and they make me smile :)

I really need to get the rear strut bolts tightened down though, the rattling and motion I can see (trunk is still ripped out, seats folded down) when driving.

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

your -> you're

couldn't resist that one :D


but its still english....leave me alone...fat fingers here....like typing with mozarella sticks.(ugh)

[whitemp5seattle]

lol you guys are funny

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

Lol, great sig man....but you shall not brain wash me....but if someone can answer my question!?!?

Does anyone know where I can find a CP Racing Cruise Control bracket?

[magnumP5]

Lol, great sig man....but you shall not brain wash me....but if someone can answer my question!?!?

Does anyone know where I can find a CP Racing Cruise Control bracket?
if you figure that one out let me know too... although I'm pretty sure I'll be making my own soon. In the mean time, the lack of cruise isn't all the back - I still got over 30+ mpg on my 5 hr drive back to school.

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

No I mean I don't mind not having the cruise control(I never use it) but I just don't want it hanging loose in the engine bay. I just want something to hold it down, therefore the bracket.

[magnumP5]

No I mean I don't mind not having the cruise control(I never use it) but I just don't want it hanging loose in the engine bay. I just want something to hold it down, therefore the bracket.
Yeah I removed the whole thing for the time being but the cable is currently zip-tied to the STB - it isn't pretty but it does the job until I can figure out what I will be doing with the cruise control.

[BadKarma]

And your not Mazdas247's spell checker. (poke)

"You're", not "your"... :)

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

"You're", not "your"... :)


..............(fu) lmao, just kidding man. But you still suck, lol.


Hey magnum...any problems with taking the cruise control unit out? Or jst the fact that you have to zip tie them somewhere.

[redpr5]

i need to reset my ecu again
apparently driving fast while its learning is a bad idea lol. oh well. ill do that tomorrow
because right now i am getting the world's shittiest gas mileage for an econobox. im talkin ~19mpg.....yeeeeeaaaa about that..

[reynoldsrobbie]

i need to reset my ecu again
apparently driving fast while its learning is a bad idea lol. oh well. ill do that tomorrow
because right now i am getting the world's shittiest gas mileage for an econobox. im talkin ~19mpg.....yeeeeeaaaa about that..
thats about what I got on my first 2 tanks when I put the turbo on.

[amsgator]

driving fast is a good thing...it makes the ecu think u always drive hard so then when u granny drive you get better mileage. "drive like you stole it" once you reset it

[BadKarma]

..............(fu) lmao, just kidding man. But you still suck, lol.


Hey magnum...any problems with taking the cruise control unit out? Or jst the fact that you have to zip tie them somewhere.

Haha! ;)

Clear corner lights arrived today... Hoping to get them installed this weekend!

http://www.msprotege.com/members/BadKarma/ClearCornerLights.jpg

[redpr5]

driving fast is a good thing...it makes the ecu think u always drive hard so then when u granny drive you get better mileage. "drive like you stole it" once you reset it
well i ran the piss out of it a lot so that way the ecu could map the AFR through all the rpm ranges, but now that its reset the gas mileage has been REAL shitty. so idk what to do. should i just let it be and see if it gets better after a few tanks or should i reset it again?
if i should reset it again, how should i drive the car?

[whitemp5seattle]

supposedly you run rich for a while after resetting your ecu I thought? maybe just give it a while for your ecu to adjust "stuff" and hopefully you'll be back at 28 mpg soon!

[redpr5]

supposedly you run rich for a while after resetting your ecu I thought? maybe just give it a while for your ecu to adjust "stuff" and hopefully you'll be back at 28 mpg soon!
yea it def runs rich right after you do it, i mean ungodly rich. makes for nice pickup though :P but yea i suppose ill wait like 2 or 3 tankfuls of gas and if it hasnt improved by then, ill reset it again.

and yea what i would give to be at 28+mpg. i havent seen that in awhile. i get around 24, damn you intake lol

[whitemp5seattle]

what intake do you have? I get about 28 mpg...but I also drive a lot of freeway/non-stop highway miles...

[redpr5]

what intake do you have? I get about 28 mpg...but I also drive a lot of freeway/non-stop highway miles...
Bomz SRI yea i dont do a lot of highway driving, im mostly city

[amsgator]

yea it def runs rich right after you do it, i mean ungodly rich. makes for nice pickup though :P but yea i suppose ill wait like 2 or 3 tankfuls of gas and if it hasnt improved by then, ill reset it again.

and yea what i would give to be at 28+mpg. i havent seen that in awhile. i get around 24, damn you intake lol

the intake shouldnt drop the mileage...i still get that much like 28-32 highway

[meinp5]

Haha! ;)

Clear corner lights arrived today... Hoping to get them installed this weekend!


Those are the Celica lights right? I remember reading about that a while back but I forget now. Where did you get them from?

[redpr5]

the intake shouldnt drop the mileage...i still get that much like 28-32 highway
it dropped mine. i wish i had a AFR gauge, thatd be handy. cuz i mean with more air comes the need for more fuel. and i never reset my ecu when i put the intake on, i just got around to doing that like 3 or 4 days ago.

[BadKarma]

Those are the Celica lights right? I remember reading about that a while back but I forget now. Where did you get them from?

Yup! Celica lights, got them off of eBay.

[magnumP5]

Hey magnum...any problems with taking the cruise control unit out? Or jst the fact that you have to zip tie them somewhere.
Nope no problems taking it out. Removing the cable from the cruise unit was a bit of a PITA but after fighting that everything just came out - just a matter of loosening some nuts and unplugging a connection. I had a picture of when I first installed mine a while back...

[GMalatrasi]

Damn 28mpg? Last tank I got 22mpg and that's the most I've ever seen other than when I drove to Miami.
Damn automatics!

[magnumP5]

Damn 28mpg? Last tank I got 22mpg and that's the most I've ever seen other than when I drove to Miami.
Damn automatics!
Sweet, I'm turbo'd and I still get over 30 mpg highway, about 28 mpg mixed and about 25 mpg city. Really romping on it only yields about 22 mpg though (boom03)

[amsgator]

Damn 28mpg? Last tank I got 22mpg and that's the most I've ever seen other than when I drove to Miami.
Damn automatics!

lol. it usually comes out to around 25-26 because most of my driving is city but when i go back home (my parents) i mostly drive highway and i get better mileage as long as i dont drive fast, like over 70 or 80

[Kansei]

Sweet, I'm turbo'd and I still get over 30 mpg highway, about 28 mpg mixed and about 25 mpg city. Really romping on it only yields about 22 mpg though (boom03)

I got 33ish highway :) wewt

but since most of my driving is city traffic, really short trips, or romping on it, I've gotten like 18mpg on a couple tanks.

Before I was turbo, 33-36highway and like 27 as my worst ever recorded (with all the NA mods I had).

The car really does impress me with the gas mileage it gets :)

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

:( I wish I had a manual. But still, I love my wagon. Hey magnum, you think you might be able to get a pic of it now? Just so I can get a feel of how you might have taken the cable out?

[Kansei]

oh yeah, I have pics of my car on s-techs.. just one that looks like it isn't too blurry.. took the pics after 8, it was way rainy too..

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

Well I need pics of the CP Racing strut on a car with the CC unit completely off.

[Yaggie1]

Nothing today, since I have been in PA for the last three days.........On a good note, I am packing right now for a 6am flight back home and some happy driving tomorrow. I did manage to work 30 hours Sat and Sun this weekend though.(notcool)

This week, oil change, header goes back on, eyelids installed, hopefully a bath in prep for the first MI fun drive of the year (yippy)

[whitemp5seattle]

did you take your header off for the winter or something?

[Yaggie1]

I originally took it off just because of the noise on my 70 mile highway drive to work everyday. I never decided to sell it on the chance I would miss it and put it back on the car. I am hoping I can sound deaden enough this Summer and maybe it won't drive me crazy.


did you take your header off for the winter or something?

[whitemp5seattle]

ah I see. what's your setup again? (exhaust? intake?)

I'm planning on doing some sound deadening this summer too. Too bad we don't live closer...we could do it together!

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

Lol, You definately don't want my setup then, lol. Well maybe you might....

[THE Phen]

-Front calipers red. Rears were done previously by MeinP5
-Kartboy bushings finally installed
-XM Tuner installed. Direct connection to my Pioneer deck.
-DaveB rings, and burned one to a crisp. D'oh!!! Long story. Got another large one from DaveB himself tonight.
-Painted the center of the needles silver.

I was busy today.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Chupotimko1/Cars/Mazda%20Protege5/04-23-07_2335.jpg

that's my DaveB ring.

[rednecks_r_us]

-Front calipers red. Rears were done previously by MeinP5
-Kartboy bushings finally installed
-XM Tuner installed. Direct connection to my Pioneer deck.
-DaveB rings, and burned one to a crisp. D'oh!!! Long story. Got another large one from DaveB himself tonight.
-Painted the center of the needles silver.

I was busy today.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Chupotimko1/Cars/Mazda%20Protege5/04-23-07_2335.jpg

that's my DaveB ring.

OK thats just violates one of the man rule subsection somewhere. You can't just post up pictures of mangled car parts with out a story. Its just not right.

[Bala]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Chupotimko1/Cars/Mazda%20Protege5/04-23-07_2335.jpg

that's my DaveB ring.


Waaaaaaahhhhhht?!

[Bala]

OK thats just violates one of the man rule subsection somewhere. You can't just post up pictures of mangled car parts with out a story. Its just not right.

(mswerd)

[magnumP5]

Well I need pics of the CP Racing strut on a car with the CC unit completely off.
Sorry for the delay but here is the pic I posted in the engine pic thread. If you look closely you can see the cable just hanging there.

[THE Phen]

Ok, so what happened with the ring. I had taken them out of the box they were shipped in and put them on my coffee table. A day or two later, I was showing them to a friend of mine and for some reason or another, I put the big one back into the shipping box. Only the big one. Sunday is the day that I burn any cardboard or paper that I accumulate during the week, so rather than look to see if anything was in the box before burning it, I just took everything out there and lit it. Why check it? I saw them on the coffee table. Unfortunately, it was just two of them. The rings don't like fire. Always double check that all parts are where they should be!

[StealthWyvern]

Ok, so what happened with the ring. I had taken them out of the box they were shipped in and put them on my coffee table. A day or two later, I was showing them to a friend of mine and for some reason or another, I put the big one back into the shipping box. Only the big one. Sunday is the day that I burn any cardboard or paper that I accumulate during the week, so rather than look to see if anything was in the box before burning it, I just took everything out there and lit it. Why check it? I saw them on the coffee table. Unfortunately, it was just two of them. The rings don't like fire. Always double check that all parts are where they should be!

lol that sucks but at leat you managed to get another one without having to purchase another set.

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

Ok, so what happened with the ring. I had taken them out of the box they were shipped in and put them on my coffee table. A day or two later, I was showing them to a friend of mine and for some reason or another, I put the big one back into the shipping box. Only the big one. Sunday is the day that I burn any cardboard or paper that I accumulate during the week, so rather than look to see if anything was in the box before burning it, I just took everything out there and lit it. Why check it? I saw them on the coffee table. Unfortunately, it was just two of them. The rings don't like fire. Always double check that all parts are where they should be!


LOL.


And magnum, thanks for the pic. I think I might just do what you did until I can find that damn brace.

[redpr5]

lol. it usually comes out to around 25-26 because most of my driving is city but when i go back home (my parents) i mostly drive highway and i get better mileage as long as i dont drive fast, like over 70 or 80
right now im probably getting about 18-19mpg, before the intake i got 31, after it i got anywhere from 24-26mpg. im hoping with this ecu reset i just did itll go up to 28+
i really wish i had a 5 speed, i hate automatics. highway yields better gas mileage, but not as good as a 5 speed

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

Boys Don't Cry....lol, trust me I wish I had a 5 speed also, but one can't complain because its still one sexy car. :)

[redpr5]

Boys Don't Cry....lol, trust me I wish I had a 5 speed also, but one can't complain because its still one sexy car. :)
agreed, it is a sexy car.

[Kansei]

But with an automatic it's a sexy car with NO SOUL.

:P

[aMaff]

P5 = Shaggin Wagon :)

[redpr5]

But with an automatic it's a sexy car with NO SOUL.

:P
tell me about it, automatic FTL, the sad thing is, i got in my car and tried to press the clutch to start it (nuts) i need to own a 5 speed lol


P5 = Shaggin Wagon :)
ya damn right its the shaggin wagon. i always tell people that :D

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

But with an automatic it's a sexy car with NO SOUL.

:P

Go shove it up your bootay, okaykaykay? (boom06)

[whitemp5seattle]

today I'm driving my p5 to contest a traffic ticket I got in January... wish me luck!

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

Good luck bud. Lol, what was the traffic ticket for?

[meinp5]

today I'm driving my p5 to contest a traffic ticket I got in January... wish me luck!


Yikes...what happened to your right to a speedy trial? 3-4mths. later isn't very quick. Good luck though.

[Kansei]

horrible picture showing drop stance on s-techs (morning after install.. so not at all settled:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/231/471137134_43c436e4f8.jpg

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

Looks like the same drop as the Eibach Pro Kit, with stock struts.

[meinp5]

Looks good. I want to get a set of teins.


horrible picture showing drop stance on s-techs (morning after install.. so not at all settled:

[Kansei]

Yikes...what happened to your right to a speedy trial? 3-4mths. later isn't very quick. Good luck though.

Well luckily I don't think they held him in jail until his "trial".

Jeffrey.. going to the courthouse in Bantam? At least it's a nice drive, just don't get a ticket on the way there ha!

[Kansei]

Looks good. I want to get a set of teins.

What do you have right now? Your car looks pretty low. My car will never look low on 205/40-17 tires (loser)

[meinp5]

What do you have right now? Your car looks pretty low. My car will never look low on 205/40-17 tires (loser)

Right now i'm on stockers. The picture you see is Eibach prokit and tokico hps. I still have the tokicos on but I want to get a different spring. This time I was something linear. It's not like our cars are a smooth ride anyway.

[Kansei]

my ride is MUCH smoother on the stiffer, linear teins than it ever was on the progressive, soft goldlines..

it was either that the tokico HPs were valved too high for the goldlines or because of using stock bumpstops before. buying a pair of msp bumpstops (just the two are needed) when lowering a Protege5 should be mandatory. I wish I had known the first time!

[meinp5]

I didn't even think about getting new bumpstops when I lowered. Which two did you change out? I'll have to get on OnlineMazdaParts and figure out how much they are.


my ride is MUCH smoother on the stiffer, linear teins than it ever was on the progressive, soft goldlines..

it was either that the tokico HPs were valved too high for the goldlines or because of using stock bumpstops before. buying a pair of msp bumpstops (just the two are needed) when lowering a Protege5 should be mandatory. I wish I had known the first time!

[Kansei]

I didn't even think about getting new bumpstops when I lowered. Which two did you change out? I'll have to get on OnlineMazdaParts and figure out how much they are.

I couldn't find them on their site.. like most MSP stuff it isn't listed.

The MSP has the same ones on all four corners.. they are very similar to the front Protege5 ones.. slightly shorter (maybe 1/3"), but stiffer. So buy a pair, install them on the front, and install your old front ones on the rear.

Then point and laugh at how massive the stock rear bumpstops are..

I'll go dig up the thread with the bumpstop pictures and part numbers..

[aMaff]

I just got new mazdaspeed strut tops and bumpstops

[Kansei]

part number: BN7H-34-111 (order 2 or 4)

photo comparison compliments of bala:

http://www.msprotege.com/members/Bala%20de%20Plata/Bump%20Stops%2001.jpg

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

sorry if this is delayed but....why do you say you can never get your car looking low on 205/40 17? Mine looks pretty low on 215/40ZR17's.....?

[amsgator]

part number: BN7H-34-111 (order 2 or 4)

photo comparison compliments of bala:

http://www.msprotege.com/members/Bala%20de%20Plata/Bump%20Stops%2001.jpg

not familiar w/ bumpstops, so whats the benefit of gettin these?

[meinp5]

not familiar w/ bumpstops, so whats the benefit of gettin these?

Bump stops limit the travel of the shock/strut. Smaller bumpstops = more travel. I wouldn't suggest this for stock struts. The tokico HP's are ment for lowered cars and could handle it.

[amsgator]

Bump stops limit the travel of the shock/strut. Smaller bumpstops = more travel. I would suggest this for stock struts. The tokico HP's are ment for lowered cars and could handle it.

so you would or wouldn't recommend it? you said you would but then said the HPs could handle it. Not sure if you meant the stocks couldn't handle it or not

[Kansei]

^^ he means "wouldn't"

[meinp5]

^^ he means "wouldn't"

Fixed. Thanks.

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

But.....why would you want more travel on the strut....wouldnt your car ride crappy? Lol, sorry newb also.

[amsgator]

But.....why would you want more travel on the strut....wouldnt your car ride crappy? Lol, sorry newb also.

i'm guessing to make it a lil more comfortable ride? idk. have to wait for answers

[meinp5]

But.....why would you want more travel on the strut....wouldnt your car ride crappy? Lol, sorry newb also.

If you lower your car with a spring and you're using stock bump stops that are taller then you're pretty much riding on the bumpstops all the time. This doesn't allow the strut to travel as it should to smooth out your ride. It really makes great sense now that I think about it.

[JoshP5]

it was either that the tokico HPs were valved too high for the goldlines or because of using stock bumpstops before.Or both. :)

[Kansei]

Or both. :)

I never was one for scientific method.

Braking force diminished after car accident? change the pads, rotors, fluid, and brake lines.. and none to the same model they were before.

I'd make a great doctor :P

"But doctor, I just have a slight head cold!"

"TAKE YOUR DAMN VICODIN, IBUPROFEN, MARINOL, AND VIAGRA AND LEAVE ME ALONE!" (blah) (rant) (rockon)

[aMaff]

less travel = bumpy ride. The purpose of the bump stops is to keep the shock / strut from bottoming out (which generally will destroy it). When you lower it, you decrease your strut travel. Think of it this way: Ever ridden in a go cart? That is literally 0 suspension travel (except for some tire flex). Bumpy, right? Ever ridden in a stock benz E class? Tons of suspension travel. Smooth as butter (of course this is really over simplifying things, but you get the idea).

Most lowering springs do not have high enough spring rates to keep the car off of the stock bump stops during hard cornering. B/c of that, w/ a long (stock) bumpstop, you'll basically be riding on the bumpstop, not letting the suspension do its job. This not only makes for a harsh ride, but can also make for some skittish handling when your spring rate suddenly goes from 150# to approaching infinity (for the record: exageration) as you hit the bump stop.

I hope that helped, as I'm @ work, and it's probably pretty convoluted.

[JoshP5]

Chris, are you running the MSP front upper strut mounts and/or rear trailing arms that Edwin recommends?

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

less travel = bumpy ride. The purpose of the bump stops is to keep the shock / strut from bottoming out (which generally will destroy it). When you lower it, you decrease your strut travel. Think of it this way: Ever ridden in a go cart? That is literally 0 suspension travel (except for some tire flex). Bumpy, right? Ever ridden in a stock benz E class? Tons of suspension travel. Smooth as butter (of course this is really over simplifying things, but you get the idea).

Most lowering springs do not have high enough spring rates to keep the car off of the stock bump stops during hard cornering. B/c of that, w/ a long (stock) bumpstop, you'll basically be riding on the bumpstop, not letting the suspension do its job. This not only makes for a harsh ride, but can also make for some skittish handling when your spring rate suddenly goes from 150# to approaching infinity (for the record: exageration) as you hit the bump stop.

I hope that helped, as I'm @ work, and it's probably pretty convoluted.


Lol, no. I actually felt smarter from one of your posts....that is a first...HOLY CRAP! Lol, just kidding.

[aMaff]

it's about time right? For the record, I replaced all of my bump stops w/ the mazdaspeed ones when I did my RB springs / illuminas.

[amsgator]

If you lower your car with a spring and you're using stock bump stops that are taller then you're pretty much riding on the bumpstops all the time. This doesn't allow the strut to travel as it should to smooth out your ride. It really makes great sense now that I think about it.

so if i get springs and smaller bump stops could i do w/o new struts?

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

it's about time right? For the record, I replaced all of my bump stops w/ the mazdaspeed ones when I did my RB springs / illuminas.

So did you do that on the Miata or the P5? And how is the ride difference?

[aMaff]

that depends on whether or not your struts have enough valving to handle the new springs.

[JoshP5]

Apples and oranges.

[amsgator]

that depends on whether or not your struts have enough valving to handle the new springs.

and how would i go about finding this out

[aMaff]

I did it on both cars. I dunno abt the difference on the P5, b/c I did the bumpstops at the same time I lowered it, so I can't really give a comparisson of lowered w/ or w/o shorter bumpstops.

On the miata, I can. The rear had the stock bump stops for a little while. The miata has little shock travel to begin with, and I was WAY low (like slammed lol) in the rear. W/ stock bump stops, going over bumps on the interstate meant negative G's (ie me coming of the seat lol). With new, shorter bump stops, the ride was noticeably improved. After I rasied it up to a non-retarded height, the ride was INCREDIBLY better. B/c I've got very good shocks on the car that can easily handle the spring rates I have (which are 375#/in in the rear, 550#/in front), the ride is actually very good for a car as stiff as it is. I don't even take everything out of 'race mode' (ie soften the valving, etc) after the races anymore. I've pretty much got it where I like it.


EDIT: For the record, the mitat almost rides as well as the P5 lol.

Amsgator, you can generally call the shock manufacturer and tell them what spring rates you plan on running, and they'll tell you yes or no.

[meinp5]

so if i get springs and smaller bump stops could i do w/o new struts?

Well...you don't have to...but if you don't you'll likely blow the stockers out. Then you'll need new struts anyway. So I would bypass that step and do all the work at one time.

[Kansei]

Chris, are you running the MSP front upper strut mounts and/or rear trailing arms that Edwin recommends?


I replaced the "spring seat" (the piece of rubber under each spring).. If I replace the perches, I want some more adjustability than the stock front upper strut mounts.

[CTt3P5]

Nothing....but I am getting a good education on bump stops!

[amsgator]

:) i'm gettin an edumacation on mounts. i think i am about to order the sls front mount (reading other threads :p)

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

The power of reading and the search button, lol. by the way, ams...did you ever get your engine problem resolved?

[amsgator]

it still shakes but i think it's from the header. it's not as bad as it was, one of the plugs was pitted and i changed all 4 and i think that helped quite a bit.

i think the front and passenger side mounts are ripped so that's why i was going to order the sls front, that may help as well. i'll get their side mounts when the driver's side mount comes out, i just dont like the idea of replacing one side mount and not the other.

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

I would buy the whole kit, not just one or two. That's like having your girl get only one implant and not the other side, lol.

[amsgator]

exactly. they only have the front and passenger side though so i am gettin the front. the front makes the biggest difference from what i've heard so i'm just gettin that til they come out w/ the other side. hopefully get it in next week

[whitemp5seattle]

Hey e'rebody,

To answer questions asked on previous pages, I got my ticket for "traveling fast" (I was caught going 48 in a 30...honest mistake...oops). Original trial date was in March, but I was traveling for work so I had it reschedule to today.

I went in, talked to a state attorney, explained that it was just a mistake and thatr I have a good driving record with no tickets. Waited in line for almost an hour to talk to the guy for 2 minutes.

I ended up paying a "charitable contribution" of $75 and having the ticket anulled. So no insurance hike. Yay! (And the original ticket was for $167 or something, so $75 is great)

(nana)

[Yaggie1]

Just the Injen, the OBX header and the Racing Beat catback.

Yeah, that'd be a bit of a drive for both of us !! (boom01)


ah I see. what's your setup again? (exhaust? intake?)

I'm planning on doing some sound deadening this summer too. Too bad we don't live closer...we could do it together!

[Yaggie1]

Man..................that's just cold..........

BTW, without a turbo it's just a sexy car with no soul.......


But with an automatic it's a sexy car with NO SOUL.

:P

[amsgator]

Man..................that's just cold..........

BTW, without a turbo it's just a sexy car with no soul.......

my car has a soul (dance)

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

.......................lol. sorry that was funny for some reason.

[CTt3P5]

Hey e'rebody,

To answer questions asked on previous pages, I got my ticket for "traveling fast" (I was caught going 48 in a 30...honest mistake...oops). Original trial date was in March, but I was traveling for work so I had it reschedule to today.

I went in, talked to a state attorney, explained that it was just a mistake and thatr I have a good driving record with no tickets. Waited in line for almost an hour to talk to the guy for 2 minutes.

I ended up paying a "charitable contribution" of $75 and having the ticket anulled. So no insurance hike. Yay! (And the original ticket was for $167 or something, so $75 is great)

(nana)

Glad to hear it all worked out for you! No insurance hike is huge....now let's take some lead outta that right foot! hahahaha

[amsgator]

it does though! it doesn't have a turbo, but it still has a soul :) it's 5-speed :p

[aMaff]

all your soul are belong to Mazda

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

Ok Shang Tsung :D

[bazooka joe]

[quote=whitemp5seattle]Hey e'rebody,

To answer questions asked on previous pages, I got my ticket for "traveling fast" (I was caught going 48 in a 30...honest mistake...oops). Original trial date was in March, but I was traveling for work so I had it reschedule to today.

I went in, talked to a state attorney, explained that it was just a mistake and thatr I have a good driving record with no tickets. Waited in line for almost an hour to talk to the guy for 2 minutes.

I ended up paying a "charitable contribution" of $75 and having the ticket anulled. So no insurance hike. Yay! (And the original ticket was for $167 or something, so $75 is great)
(nana)quote]

nice work, it pays to go to court (well, you end up paying, but you know what i mean)
oh ya, drove about 100 miles today, windows down sun roof open...man i love driving this car!(sun)

[aMaff]

So? I've been doing that for about a month now (outie)

:p

GA FTW!

[Salmon_Rob]

30.8 mpg mixed ftw

[Kansei]

30.8 mpg mixed ftw

33+mpg and turbo ftw ;)

[bazooka joe]

So? I've been doing that for about a month now (outie)

:p

GA FTW!

(loser)

[amsgator]

well i ordered the motor mount a few minutes ago from SLS...it was like 61 dollars, gah! can't wait til the summer when i get more money.

[aMaff]

(loser)
lol I'm not gonna lie tho. I seriously miss that clam chawdaaa

[BadKarma]

lol I'm not gonna lie tho. I seriously miss that clam chawdaaa

Say it frenchie! Say chowda!

[ZoomZoom03]

installed my Pioneer Ipod adapter to compliment my AVIC-D1 Nav system...so much simpler than constantly changing CDs (drinks)

[silverpro5]

installed my momo shift knob......VERY NIIIICE!

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k287/LucasVD/momo.jpg

[Kansei]

I PWWWWWNED a Celica GTS with header, catback, intake, cf hood, stock wheels (the kinda small looking gts ones).. the guy was so shocked that he pulled up beside me at a light a few minutes later and asked me what the hell my car was (maybe he was confused by the "323" badging on the rear).

I wish my car was more sleeper looking though.. the wheels, hood, and especially the HKS SSQV really give me away.

If people didn't try to race me I'd be better able to resist the urge :P

[bazooka joe]

lol I'm not gonna lie tho. I seriously miss that clam chawdaaa
http://re3.mm-a7.yimg.com/image/3768991041 (http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dchowda%26fr%3Dyfp-t-501%26toggle%3D1%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr2%3Dtab-web&w=599&h=379&imgurl=www.thebostongondola.com%2Fsitebuilder%2Fim ages%2Fchowda2-599x379.png&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thebostongondola.com%2Fchowd a.html&size=24.9kB&name=chowda2-599x379.png&p=chowda&type=png&no=17&tt=381&oid=9a73437fe4910c30&ei=UTF-8)

[amsgator]

I PWWWWWNED a Celica GTS with header, catback, intake, cf hood, stock wheels (the kinda small looking gts ones).. the guy was so shocked that he pulled up beside me at a light a few minutes later and asked me what the hell my car was (maybe he was confused by the "323" badging on the rear).

I wish my car was more sleeper looking though.. the wheels, hood, and especially the HKS SSQV really give me away.

If people didn't try to race me I'd be better able to resist the urge :P

how many lengths

[Kansei]

It was a race* to 55 (speed limit) so not many.. I'm a bad judge of these things, but I'd have to say.. 1.5? no clue though really.. he was definitely totally behind me :P

*defined as a "spirited drive"

[amsgator]

sweet. dont those have 180 hp or something like that?

[aMaff]

http://re3.mm-a7.yimg.com/image/3768991041 (http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dchowda%26fr%3Dyfp-t-501%26toggle%3D1%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr2%3Dtab-web&w=599&h=379&imgurl=www.thebostongondola.com%2Fsitebuilder%2Fim ages%2Fchowda2-599x379.png&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thebostongondola.com%2Fchowd a.html&size=24.9kB&name=chowda2-599x379.png&p=chowda&type=png&no=17&tt=381&oid=9a73437fe4910c30&ei=UTF-8)
bahahahaha I love it!

[Kansei]

yeah 180ish hp at like 8 billion rpms.. they make barely more torque than a stock protege5 engine hehe

[amsgator]

yeah 180ish hp at like 8 billion rpms.. they make barely more torque than a stock protege5 engine hehe

never understood the major dif btwn torque and hp. :( i know newb question

[Shasta]

I washed mine up again tonight. I'm going through more car wash soap than gas. lol

At $ 1.05 per litre ,no wonder.

[FrolessWonder]

Bought my CB set-up today, im also waiting for my gauge rings and new tail light still.

[BadKarma]

never understood the major dif btwn torque and hp. :( i know newb question

I don't get it either, I'm totally new to all of this :( . Here's what I've got so far: Torque is the rotational force that is directly produced, while horsepower is calculated from: (Torque x Engine speed) / 5,252 = Horsepower.

So I guess HP is a derivative of torque, where 5252 is the magical number where HP is equal to torque. Anyone have a good explaination of it all for us?

[magnumP5]

I PWWWWWNED a Celica GTS with header, catback, intake, cf hood, stock wheels (the kinda small looking gts ones).. the guy was so shocked that he pulled up beside me at a light a few minutes later and asked me what the hell my car was (maybe he was confused by the "323" badging on the rear).

I wish my car was more sleeper looking though.. the wheels, hood, and especially the HKS SSQV really give me away.

If people didn't try to race me I'd be better able to resist the urge :P
Niiice... I took a RSX a while back just because I didn't want him to cut me off - should have seen the look on his face. It's funny though, I've had at least a few people ask when kind of car I drive. The best was when an older guy in another P5 asked me what kind of car it was - he thought it was some kind of special edition Mazda or something. I guess it was the MSP wheels and the 323F emblem...

[mazda_pro5_2nr]

Ams, think of it this way and its pretty easy. A Honda motor can be spanked off the line due to the fact that they lack so much torque but if you race one top end....good luck.

But if you have shitloads of torque, it is used more on off the line. Cars that have tons of torque and not a lot of Hp are not good top end.

So basically, HP is used more at the top end, but torque is more useful off the line.

[khaosman]

Took off the intake manifold to get better access to the starter and whatnot to hook up some wires and hoses, also working on making the wires not look like complete and utter shit (see this post: http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3118917&postcount=820 )

http://www.khaosman.com/albums/whygodwhy/DSC09667.sized.jpg

Collected a lot of dust and bumper stickers since March 11... :(

[Kansei]

dude clean that shit.. buy some "quick and easy wash".. no rinsing needed. I use it in my garage in the winter all the time :P

[JoshP5]

So I guess HP is a derivative of torque, where 5252 is the magical number where HP is equal to torque. Anyone have a good explaination of it all for us?
Well, HP is never equal to torque since they have different units; it's like comparing apples to oranges. I'm not a mechanical engineer, but I could be, so here goes :)

Torque is the amount of force produced at a certain distance from something that rotates, like your axle or crankshaft. It has units of work.

Power is an amount of work done per unit time.

Power=work/time=torque/time. That 5252 is in the forumula to make the units work out right: Power is measured in horsepower, Torque in ft*lb, reciprocal time in RPM. In Europe, where they measure Torque in Newton-Meters and Horsepower in Kilowatts, that number will be different. but the principle is the same.

So torque is more or less the force your car applies to the ground to impart motion; power indicates the rate at which your car performs some task.

That's my shot; InstallShield2 could probably give a beautifully elegant explanation, you may want to post the question in the 2.0 tuning subforum.

[khaosman]

dude clean that shit.. buy some "quick and easy wash".. no rinsing needed. I use it in my garage in the winter all the time :P

First things first... get her running. Once I've got that done and got all the lead out of my right foot (might take a while!), I'll give her a proper bath.

[Foolish]

Installed the DaveB brushed rings. Very nice!

[JoshP5]

Just polished off the first ful tank of gas since switching from BKR5E-11s to ZFR5F-11s. Keeping octane at 87, mileage went from 24mpg to 26! :)

Filled up with 89 this time to see if there's any difference on the next tank. Maybe my ECU will advance the timing a little.

[aMaff]

Do you have the stock ECU? If so, probably not by a noticeable amount...

[JoshP5]

Stock ECU. If I get 1mpg more on 89, it'll be worth the overhead.

[aMaff]

Why? Cost should come out the same lol

[silverpro5]

i filled up with 93 last time, so far mileage isn't drastically improved.

[aMaff]

not only is it not improved, you're killing your cat(s). You're probably not getting a full burn w/ the timing set to stock running 93 octane.

[silverpro5]

woops ;) I'll bring it back down next time. cats are for sissies anyway

EDIT

When I had my spark plugs sitting on the tarmac at autozone they were all covered with white stuff (carbon I presume) and the guys said it looked like I was running really lean. Could this be true?

[bazooka joe]

another 100+ miles today, closing in on 99,000...bought her a new parada spec II today :)

[JoshP5]

Why? Cost should come out the same lol
I guess I meant to say you break even right around +1mpg. But I didn't factor in the cost of wear on the cat.

Although I always ran 89 in my Miata and had no cat problems--it would ping on 87.

[Kansei]

today I registered my P5 for the first autocross of the season.. as well as the test and tune the day before.. all this weekend :)

[bucksatan]

Today I got my windows tinted, it looks great. Now I just have to let it fully cure and I am golden.

[reynoldsrobbie]

I got my new muffler today. Its the brand new Megan Racing MU-MOE. I hope to get it installed on Sat.

[amsgator]

I got my new muffler today. Its the brand new Megan Racing MU-MOE. I hope to get it installed on Sat.

i'll take the $20, you can keep the muffler (rofl)

[reynoldsrobbie]

i'll take the $20, you can keep the muffler (rofl)
its your for $20+shipping+paypal fees! LOL!

[gottacatchup]

woops ;) I'll bring it back down next time. cats are for sissies anyway

EDIT

When I had my spark plugs sitting on the tarmac at autozone they were all covered with white stuff (carbon I presume) and the guys said it looked like I was running really lean. Could this be true?

Carbon is black and having it on your plugs means you're running rich. Having white plugs like you do does mean you are running lean though.

[PimpSmurf]

Carbon is black and having it on your plugs means you're running rich. Having white plugs like you do does mean you are running lean though.

good to know *filing in long term memory*


honestly though

[PimpSmurf]

I got my new muffler today. Its the brand new Megan Racing MU-MOE. I hope to get it installed on Sat.

did u pick a nasty lookin $20 bill so it would make the muffler look nicer by comparison?



well it worked, looks great... how much was it?

[reynoldsrobbie]

did u pick a nasty lookin $20 bill so it would make the muffler look nicer by comparison?



well it worked, looks great... how much was it?
strictly for size comparison. My friend is sponsered by them, so he gets me a discount. About half MSRP is all I can say. LOL!

[silverpro5]

Carbon is black and having it on your plugs means you're running rich. Having white plugs like you do does mean you are running lean though.

What can I do to fix the lean mix? A day prior to this I had put 1/2 a can of Seafoam into a nearly empty gas tank, could that have caused it? I would think that my injectors are clean. Might it be fuel pump/filter related?

Thanks

[amsgator]

its your for $20+shipping+paypal fees! LOL!

you give me the 20 and i'll pay shipping and paypal fees on the shipping :)

[reynoldsrobbie]

well i think i mite actually make about 15 bux off that.... shipping is 39 cents :-) paypal fees wont be much.... hmm...
meant Id sell it for $20 + shipping + paypal

[amsgator]

meant Id sell it for $20 + shipping + paypal

ggrr.... nvm i'll pass :)

[reynoldsrobbie]

ggrr.... nvm i'll pass :)
LOL! You sure? I have a few of them I could sell you. Ill even combine the shipping charges!

[amsgator]

LOL! You sure? I have a few of them I could sell you. Ill even combine the shipping charges!

nah. i need it NOW. i dont have time to wait for shipping :)

[Bala]

Hey peeps - Robbie bought my lugs: http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2709201&postcount=1 and they don't work with his wheels due to his holes being smaller than OEM.:( I'm going to be buying them back from him, unless I can assist him in passing on the savings to another member. Robbie, if you could measure and post the diameter of the install socket, we will know who can use them ...

[reynoldsrobbie]

Hey peeps - Robbie bought my lugs: http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2709201&postcount=1 and they don't work with his wheels due to his holes being smaller than OEM.:( I'm going to be buying them back from him, unless I can assist him in passing on the savings to another member. Robbie, if you could measure and post the diameter of the install socket, we will know who can use them ...

[reynoldsrobbie]

NO BUENO!

[Worbit]

before:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/mer|in/headerbefore.jpg

and after! :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/mer|in/headerafter.jpg

All thanks to robbie! :D He sold me the headers like 3 weeks ago and i finally got around to installing them! :D

[Bala]

NO BUENO!

Booooooo! Yeah - looks like if you need "tuner style" lugs these are too big. If you are running OEM size lugs - you're in luck.

[reynoldsrobbie]

before:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/mer|in/headerbefore.jpg

and after! :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/mer|in/headerafter.jpg

All thanks to robbie! :D He sold me the headers like 3 weeks ago and i finally got around to installing them! :D
Damn! Lookin good! Get the non foulers?

[whitemp5seattle]

good to know *filing in long term memory*


honestly though

http://www.verrill.com/moto/sellingguide/sparkplugs/plugcolorchart.htm

[whitemp5seattle]

dang Bala...I just bought some mazda locking lugnuts...oh well

[PimpSmurf]

http://www.verrill.com/moto/sellingguide/sparkplugs/plugcolorchart.htm

that's hella kool, but it's too much for me to remember... i'll have to use a bookmark this time... hahaha


and Worbit, those headers look sick... the elimination of rush is the joy of every man... hahaha


EDIT: sry for all the "hahaha"s... sometimes i do it a lot, just like with using "z"s everywhere... sometimes i do it and sometimes i don't

[silverpro5]

http://www.verrill.com/moto/sellingguide/sparkplugs/plugcolorchart.htm

Nice! The "mechanical damage" one looks like a torture victim.

Mine was white like the "ash fouled" but not as bad as the one in the picture. I'm going to attribute it to the Seafoam in the gas tank.

[Yaggie1]

Hey Silver, off topic, but are you going to make the drive this Sat ??


Nice! The "mechanical damage" one looks like a torture victim.

Mine was white like the "ash fouled" but not as bad as the one in the picture. I'm going to attribute it to the Seafoam in the gas tank.

[Kansei]

Today I spilled a little chai on the silver trim piece around the cupholders. Stupid super stealth pothole ninjas

[Salmon_Rob]

did you have your emergency cleaning kit?

[Kansei]

you mean the Protege5 hoodie in my back seat? yes. It worked wonders :p

Tonight I might be parking my car downtown on the mean streets for a Modest Mouse concert :)

I'm thinkin it'll be a better idea if it isn't raining for my roommate and I to just ride our bikes there.. no paying for parking, no car getting stolen, etc...

[amsgator]

you mean the Protege5 hoodie in my back seat? yes. It worked wonders :p

Tonight I might be parking my car downtown on the mean streets for a Modest Mouse concert :)

I'm thinkin it'll be a better idea if it isn't raining for my roommate and I to just ride our bikes there.. no paying for parking, no car getting stolen, etc...

make him drive :)

[aMaff]

that theory works great until you realize that there's no rule stating they can't steal j00r ch1t @ h0m3!

[Kansei]

that theory works great until you realize that there's no rule stating they can't steal j00r ch1t @ h0m3!

My home isn't in the ghetto. The location of the concert most certainly is.

If they steal our bikes, we can walk back.. it's only like 2 miles.. through the ghetto.. at night.. in Rochester.. for two puny little out-of-town kids.. (boom03) (confused)

Dealing with getting a new bike > dealing with my car getting smashed to shit and/or stolen.

As for taking his car.. well it might have 230,000 miles on it, but the thing is damn mint (feels newer than my car when you drive it (smash) ).. it does have a much nicer alarm system than the mazda oem option alarm...

[iLisa]

dark blue car + yellow pollen = green p5 :(

[amsgator]

dark blue car + yellow pollen = green p5 :(

yellow car + yellow pollen = yellow p5 (eekdance)

hehe. green isnt such a bad color :)

[Kansei]

dark blue car + yellow pollen = green p5 :(

now it's more unique.. they never did make a green P5 :)

[magnumP5]

dark blue car + yellow pollen = green p5 :(
red car + yellow pollen = orange P5...

I think I'm 2/3 towards being spicey (first)

[silverpro5]

Hey Silver, off topic, but are you going to make the drive this Sat ??

I'd love to, but next week is an academic maelstrom. Maybe another time....

[whitemp5seattle]

I want to install some kartboy exhaust hangers today but it's kinda cloudy out...might rain soon... :(

[amsgator]

bought the steel wool to attack my header to try and clean it up. hopefully get to it tomorrow.

[whitemp5seattle]

get it ceramic coated by jet-hot!

[whitemp5seattle]

oh, and I just finished putting in the new exhaust hangers! I was working on the last one, and it started to rain big heavy drops. I was like "NO YOU DON'T!!!"

and then the rain stopped after 15 seconds and hasn't started again since :)

yay for exhaust hangers! I took some pics so I might make a how-to since there isn't one on the forums yet...

[amsgator]

get it ceramic coated by jet-hot!

heck no. that will cost more than the header itself. poor college kid here

[rednecks_r_us]

heck no. that will cost more than the header itself. poor college kid here


Go sell your plasma it'll be worth it


LOL

Jet hot = FTW

[amsgator]

Go sell your plasma it'll be worth it


LOL

Jet hot = FTW

i've thought about selling plasma but i still wouldnt spend that much just for a coating. it bothers me that its discolored a lil but it doesnt bother me 200+ dollars worth

[whitemp5seattle]

there's a GB for Jet-Hot going on though...only $130 to coat headers (approx)

[amsgator]

there's a GB for Jet-Hot going on though...only $130 to coat headers (approx)

yea but still. thats like a weeks pay since i work part time and school full time. plus i'd have to put the stock mani back on and crap. too much of a pain

[PimpSmurf]

dark blue car + yellow pollen = green p5 :(

yep, "powder coating"... hahaha... would be pretty funny if someone actually powder coated a whole car though... it would probably be really expensive... hahaha

[whitemp5seattle]

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123668662

[altspace]

I mis this thread :(

[FrolessWonder]

got my new tail light and new oil pressure gauge! Tomorrow i will go to get them tinted and will finally not have a broken tail light.

[evilmonkeyMSP]

put in a K&N drop in filter and removed all the extra intake piping and replaced it w/ myelbow from the MSP

[iLisa]

red car + yellow pollen = orange P5...

I think I'm 2/3 towards being spicey (first)
orange p5.... *sigh* they would be awesome......


now it's more unique.. they never did make a green P5 :)


yellow car + yellow pollen = yellow p5 (eekdance)

hehe. green isnt such a bad color :)
Oooh.. green p5 by iLisa.. it has a nice ring to it :)

[Kansei]

My car hasn't gotten any pollen on it? north ftw.. wait no it just sucks here :p

[CTt3P5]

Drove to work in the rain.....I really wish it would stop this so I can paint my brakes.