TURBO KITS AVAILABLE (need 50 members)!!!!

[kflyfshr7]

I just got off the phone with GREDDY and one of the techs said that if I (kflyfshr7) could get 50 MP3 owners to commit to buying a turbo, they (GREDDY) would make one for our beautiful and unique cars!!!!!!!!!!! Come on guys, let's show the import world that we CAN compete and look GOOD doing it!!!

[enry]

I've heard things like these 30 times already.

tell him this: there's a ton of protege and soon protege5 owners out there. a properly designed turbo kit would be compatible with the mp3, p5 and the regular protege, and I'll be damned if they don't make a profit.

[ 10-26-2001: Message edited by: enry ]

[hukster00]

true , what's the price and what's in the kit, and how mach hp will it make, :confused: and good luck getting 50 people with out the price and some dyno results hehe :p

[kflyfshr7]

Obviously I can't tell you what the specs are since there isn't one yet!!! But the guy did tell me that at least 50 people would have to commit in order to get it in the making. He also said that we would all get the kit for a decent price. What this means, I don't know, but NOTHING will happen until a few of us get together and demand one be made. Look, I am a proud MP3 owner and I just want to have what everybody else wants, MORE HP! Maybe we can sign a petition or some shit. I don't know what steps to take next, but I DID talk to a tech guy and that is exactly what he told me. Help me out here people. And I don't care if you have heard this sort of thing 30 times. I am relaying the message given to me by GREDDY.

[ArcTan2x+k]

yeehaw!

consider me IN !! if the results and the price is good! :D

[MazdaMP]

me too, good price and decent performance increase and i'm in!
how much do u usually pay for someone to install a turbo?

[APEXistud]

If GReddy can guarantee a time frame and a price, I'll be in. So if you can get those 2 questions answered, you'll probably have a lot od buyers interested. I propose we start a list, so any GReddy Tech who decides to get on the MP3 board can see the guaranteed buyers.

kflyfshr7
ArcTan2x+k
MazdaMP
APEXistud San Jose, CA


What we should also do is put our locations or at least city and state. Ok, people I know you guys are interested. And this won't be a kit made by some whole in the wall tuner shop. This Is GReddy. I hope this kid isn't talking smack and lying about speaking to GReddy. Keep this post alive. :)

[Nathen]

Guys, I've been looking for a turbo system since i purchased the vehicle. If anyone knows where to get one, I'll support it just as long as I get some hp in my MP3. The price I would have to agree on some of you saying that it's got be right and the hp gain, well thats got be true too. If all is good, I'll take it, I'M IN.

email me at meng33@hotmail.com if you want. :rolleyes:

[StuttersC]

I have a question, kflyfshr7 talked to a tech? What does that mean, exactly? Everytime I've heard "tech" in the auto industry it usually means a line mechanic, or sometinhg like that. I'd like to know the people in charge are behind a kit before I say yay or nay...

Is the Greddy company behind it, or is it just some line worker who is lookin' to make some extra cash on the side?

[kflyfshr7]

Good morning to all! When I spoke to Greddy I asked to speak to a technician not a sales rep. He said in order for the company to make a profit and make it worth their while, they would have to have atleast 50 buyers. Keep putting your names on the list and in the meantime I'll contact Greddy again and inform them that we have a list started. Maybe they can give me some general specs on horsepower and price. I'll keep everyone posted. Thanks for all your repsonses! :D

[TXMP3]

Count me in on the list.

[NC_MP3]

I am in, but why don't you post the tech's name and maybe the phone number to Greddy. I would like to call them too.

[APEXistud]

I see what you guys are saying about knowing the fine details, but at any rate, buy making a list of "definately interested" buyers, any shop who is considering building a kit can see how many people are really interested. I too would like more information as well. Here's the new list.....

Updated list
kflyfshr7
ArcTan2x+k
MazdaMP
APEXistud San Jose, CA
Nathen IN.
Leonardo (possibly in)

[enry]

I down with this too, provided specs/price are interesting.

[Karl Marx]

Hey.. i'm in too provided we get the specs and prices first... but 50 people is alot of people..

Updated list:

kflyfshr7
ArcTan2x+k
MazdaMP
APEXistud San Jose, CA
Nathen IN.
Leonardo (possibly in)
Enry
Karl Marx


damn there is no preview feature ?
Btw enry, can you make the window bigger for the messages, i didn't notice until now but since the new UBB version its smaller again.

[ 10-28-2001: Message edited by: Karl Marx ]

[Mp3cHikn]

Put me in there..

[BobboJ]

Oh yeah!!! I wanna know a price and HP, of course..I'm REAL interested....sign me up Uncle Sam.....I gotta get me a GReddy!!!! :D :D :D

[javy212]

Like everyone else, assuming the price and hp are reasonable, I'm definitely in...

Updated List:
kflyfshr7
kflyfshr7
ArcTan2x+k
MazdaMP
APEXistud San Jose, CA
Nathen IN.
Leonardo (possibly in)
Enry
Karl Marx
Mp3cHikn
BobboJ
SteveMP3nj NJ/NY, USA

[javy212]

Apparently kflyfshr7 wants twin turbo's!! hehe.... Sorry about that... :rolleyes:

[Mp3P0]

definately interested. count me in provided all checks out, blah, blah, blah...

anaheim, ca

[NC_MP3]

Hey you forgot me hehe. I am in if it is decent and affordable. Btw, affordable for a turbo kit is ~$3000 hehe. I just got a Gen Drag 3 kit for my Integra, $3300 and came with everything I could ever want, even a front mount intercooler. Should take it to about 265 @ the wheels running about 6-7 psi of boost.

[Razhael]

well, today i left my rx8 dreams, just too much money for me to save and besides, i dont like the idea of getting out of debt and putting myself in more devt again.

Anyway, im in for the mp3 tuning, BUT, dont we need a performance clutch first? lets suppose we get the turbo kit, but i know for experience our mp3 stock clutch its really, well, average...

also it would be nice to know what kind of kit r we getting (how much psi, what turbo size, etc..)

anyway, im going to a performance shop for custom turbos on friday afternoon, i will update u guys if i can get some nice deal.

[toolman24594]

count me in on the turbo

[APEXistud]

If the kit is coming from GReddy, I think the kit will most likely usa a Mitsubishi TD05 turbo. They use a TD05 for both the GSR and the SI turbo kits. You don't really need that big of a turbo for our 2.0 liters. Bigger turbo means more lag in most cases. With the TD05 or the turbo APEXi uses the AXb5360 is also another good one, even better because it's ball-bearing.

Updated List

1 kflyfshr7
2 ArcTan2x+k
3 MazdaMP
4 APEXistud San Jose, CA
5 Nathen IN.
6 Leonardo (possibly in)
7 Enry
8 Karl Marx
9 Mp3cHikn
10 BobboJ
11 SteveMP3nj NJ/NY, USA
12 Mp3PO Anaheim, CA
13 NC_MP3 (possibly)
14 Razhael
15 toolman


Here are some parts I feel are going to need to be included if a turbo kit is produced by any company who decides to make a kit: All necessary clamps and hoses, exhaust manifold (preferably cast iron), all nessecary piping, heat shield, air filter, oil return and feed lines, decent sized from mount intercooler (not too big for fear of pressure drop) and definately a boost controller.

Some of the things I think will be better of optional are: Upgraded fuel system, upgraded ignition system, lighter flywheel and clutch, fuel pump, turbo timer, guages, that's all the stuff I can think of right now. I know I missed some stuff, so you guys should add to the list of parts you'd like to see the kit come with, but do realize, the more you add, the higher the cost of the kit. And I'm not turbo Guru, I just know some of the basics.

One last thing, if you guys know of any shops that are concidering building a custom turbo kit for the MP3's and Protege5's. Be sure to point this post out to them, so they know that are serious buyers out here that are waiting.

[ 10-29-2001: Message edited by: APEXistud ]

[Jag61180]

I'm in too!

[Razhael]

thx apexistud, i will try to memorize yer post by friday so i can sound more like a peep who actually knows what hes talking about :D

also, jag61180, im going to some store in arlington that a friend of mine recommended, dunno if u know of any others in the area.

[Razhael]

by the way, i think asking 50 orders its kind of too much... if we dont get more orders we should still try to convince them with the numbers we have right now

[Jag61180]

razheal,

what store? I do nothing all day I could meet you there.

[Razhael]

well jag, what u can do (if its true u dont do nothing all day) is go there and speak with the peeps! i have a tight schedule and its gonna be kinda difficult to find time, but i hope that on friday i can go around.

but, if u can go, ask around, prices and stuff, that would be WONDERFUL!

this is their site, but theres not much there since they are rebuilding the stuff: http://www.alamoautosports.com/
u can find the address there, its:

1218 Colorado Lane #C-3
Arlington, Texas 76015

man, i would really appreciate, if u have the time, to please go around and ask them about a custom job for our 140hp engines, how much, what parts would be included and stuff... :)

[Jag61180]

Razheal,

I am good friends with all the people at Alamo Autosports. I live in the neiborhood behind them. If you take colorado till it dead ends to medlin, thats the back of my house. I know brice yingling and larry very well. I bought most of my stuff from them and used to hang out with them every day. They are not very knoledgable about the MP3's, I went to them the first day I got it and talked to larry.

[Jag61180]

One more thing, They will do a custom job for our cars, But I think out of all the shops in the world alamo is the most expensive!!! Also they take a long time to complete a job, beleive me I am not flaming them, I love their work, but they are pricey. I think they quoted me around $4000-6000 to custom build one, and they would have to keep my car for a month or so. I think I'll wait for a while till they know more about our cars. Also Larry told me he did not know anything about our fuel system and without knowing he could not quote me a firm price.

[NYCZMP3]

I AM DOWN...JUST GET BACK OT EVERONE WIT THA SPECZ.....

[Razhael]

sucks to be us huh jag?
well, im going today @ 4, i had some faith because an accord owner told me they were talking around 2k to 3k, but of course, thats for a Honda... right now im trying to do some research in some japanese site somebody posted in the yahoo groups...

what other kind of stuff do they make?

[APEXistud]

Man that would be great if the kit was to only cost 2-3k. Most of the good turbo kits for Honda's (the one's that include everythihng) cost around 4-5.5k once everything is included. And that is including everything, from from upgraded injectors and fuel system to a thicker head gasket. Knowing this, I'm not expecting the kie to be in the 3k range, but it will definately be nice.

[Razhael]

nah, i went yesterday, the guy didnt look interested at all, not even for the custom job, i dont know what ppl problem is in this days. Anyway, lets hope this greddy list is not just a rumor...

[Razhael]

Originally posted by kflyfshr7:
<STRONG>I am sooooooooooo pissed off at GReddy right now. I called on Monday and all of the techs were at a car show so i spoke w/someone else. When i told him about what the tech told me (50+ people for turbo kits) he laughed. he then asked me the name of the tech i spoke with so he could get him fired. he informed me that greddy is not interested in making a turbo kit for the MP3, even if we do have 50 people on a list. I just wanna say to everyone that im sorry about the bad news, but i did try to hook everyone up. i guess we need to look elsewhere. any suggestions? keep the list going b/c we can refer to it when needed.
ill see ya guys,
kflyfshr7</STRONG>

seems like our friend here was confused and posted this reply in another topic...

well, this just sucks...

[Jag61180]

Hey Razheal,

I said a while back in a few posts that rotory performance has a kit in the works. They are from garland. I think the car prototype they have is a P5, but its all the same.

[APEXistud]

The only differences (engine wise) between our the MP3 and the P5 that I can find are the ECU's timing is slightly different and we have the FS-ZE intake manifold. Which has a higher flow rate than the P5, other than that though, I think our cars are the same. In theory, what ever kit they make for the P5 will fit the MP3 and we'd yeild higher HP numbers. Take notice that I say "in theory".

[ 10-31-2001: Message edited by: APEXistud ]

[LinuxRacr]

Originally posted by Jag61180:
<STRONG>One more thing, They will do a custom job for our cars, But I think out of all the shops in the world alamo is the most expensive!!! Also they take a long time to complete a job, beleive me I am not flaming them, I love their work, but they are pricey. I think they quoted me around $4000-6000 to custom build one, and they would have to keep my car for a month or so. I think I'll wait for a while till they know more about our cars. Also Larry told me he did not know anything about our fuel system and without knowing he could not quote me a firm price.</STRONG>

You are damn right about them being expensive! When I had my focus, I had the SOHC Engine. They would have done a custom for it, but I wasn't gonna pay $6000 !!! I know Larry, Brice, Chris, etc... I'll have to meet you sometime. If you find out anything direrent, let me know!

[MazdaMP]

i know i already posted this, but Z Motorsports in Houston takes 4k for a custom kit installed and they need it for 1 week :)

[APEXistud]

Sad to say it, but I believe that this turbo post is officially dead. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

[MP3-Owner]

What about HKS for a turbo? Didn't they make one for the 1999 Street Protege? The red one? Anyone kow about this turbo?

[1sty]

This is a letter i wrote Greddy over 2 months ago:
I realize that Greddy makes turbo systems for Civics, Integras, and Miatas because of their high numbers and a strong owner base willing to Turbo charge. However I believe that the Mazda MX-6, Ford Probe and Mazda Protégé are perfect candidates for turbo systems. I realize their numbers are not as overwhelming as civics but the market for aftermarket goodies for these cars is virtually untapped and is itching to be exploited. Unlike the aftermarket for Hondas in which you compete with an infinite number of companies, Jackson, Hotshot, HC, DC, Apex and Neuspeed to name a few. Currently only a few parts exist for Mazdas / Fords and they are of questionable quality. One simple visit to probetalk.com will reveal the many eager Mazda/Ford fans praying for quality turbochargers. Lastly, I believe the new Protégé is a perfect place to start based on their attractive style, low price, and roomy engine bay, not to mention their practicality far above Integras and Miatas. A possible bonus could be a guaranteed number sold to Racing Beat and Mazda for next year’s MP3 Protégé, which is in dire need of more power.

Take it as you will all I got back from them was that they had no plans of it also I posted it on Probetalk and got about 50 people to resend it to Greddy, eventualy they told us no way and asked us to stop sending it. SO by all means copy it and send it again I will.