View Full Version : Gotta be VICS...
Protephile
09-10-2005, 11:04 AM
So last night, I'm driving home from work and merging onto a four-lane road. I rev it up to @ 5000+ shift, then shift again. As I shift into fourth
I hear clinkity-clink, not sure where it's coming from. I downshift as I head for a light and as soon as my car comes to an idle, the engine stalls. I'm thinking, WTF??
Start it up again and the clinkity-clink sound of something rattling around in the engine is clearer now that I'm at rest...whatever is jumping around is erratic, not steady and my idle is all over the place.
As soon as the light changes I find a place to pull over. I called Mazda Roadside Assistance and had them tow it to a dealer about five minutes away. The dealer better not give me any crap about my mods, this is clearly a warranty issue.
It's gotta be the VTCS, right? I'd love to know for sure but the stinkin' dealer service is closed on Saturdays.
Anyway, if that is what it is, I'm gonna ask the dealer to remove it completely, since I'm running the MP3 ECU...
Same thing happened to me but it kept fouling out my sparkplug in the #4 cylinder. It happened alot when I shifted at high rpms.So i was misfiring and could not go anywere without the whole car shaking back and forth. But I put my car back to stock and got the warrenty work done. Hope they dont give you any crap for aftermarket parts.Good Luck.
Protephile
09-14-2005, 01:38 PM
Bump for anyone who cares...the service manager confirmed it is the VTCS system.
I stopped by last night because I hadn't heard anything, even after calling, and the service tech last night said yeah, we pulled it in and there's damage to the #4 plug.
Yeah, big revelation.
This morning they called me and said the work will be done under warranty, so that is good news. They are replacing the intake mani with a newer version--the VTCS system is allegedly riveted on, not screwed, so we'll see...
I tried to talk the guy into an MP3 manifold but he wouldn't go for it and I didn't want to mention that I had the MP3 ECU in case that would change their minds about repairing it under warranty. Hopefully they won't find some bonehead reason to reflash mine.
SubXer0
09-14-2005, 01:57 PM
the VTCS system is allegedly riveted on, not screwed, so we'll see...
thats BS i just removed it its just held in with screws i'd tell them to remove it or do it yourself the car is sooo much better without that crap in there now
justanotheradikt
09-14-2005, 02:13 PM
i think he was talking about a new mani that just came out...not the one that was put into our cars....
Protephile
09-14-2005, 02:36 PM
thats BS i just removed it its just held in with screws i'd tell them to remove it or do it yourself the car is sooo much better without that crap in there now
Haha, Dante, did you read the initial post? Why should I do all this myself
if it's damaged and under warranty?
As for the rivets, yes, it's an updated manifold. The original one was held in with screws.
Bah, I tried to talk the guy into giving me the old mani, too, so I could take the VTCS off myself and maybe have a port & polish done but he said it had to go back to Mazda. Damn...
its not VTCS, its VICS. Its the screws that are getting lose.
Dunno how good the manager and mechanic at your dealer are, but if you look through the forums, ALL people that had same problem had VICS fuck up not VTCS. Good thing that you have it all taken care of.
Protephile
09-14-2005, 06:01 PM
its not VTCS, its VICS. Its the screws that are getting lose.
Dunno how good the manager and mechanic at your dealer are, but if you look through the forums, ALL people that had same problem had VICS fuck up not VTCS. Good thing that you have it all taken care of.
Sorry, my bad...can you please change the thread title for me so I don't look like a complete moron?
Dexter
09-14-2005, 06:03 PM
its going to SCREW you.
Sorry, my bad...can you please change the thread title for me so I don't look like a complete moron?
hehe no biggie bro. Thread title changed (wink)
GOod thing that you took the car to dealer already. How long do you have to wait till its gonna be fixed? Also did they give you loaner car? If so its better be free like mine was
Protephile
09-14-2005, 06:46 PM
hehe no biggie bro. Thread title changed (wink)
GOod thing that you took the car to dealer already. How long do you have to wait till its gonna be fixed? Also did they give you loaner car? If so its better be free like mine was
I dunno, I'm sure they will need to special-order the mani. I'm picking up a loaner in the morning. I was hoping for a Mazda, but it's gonna be from Enterprise *sigh* so I'm thinking worst case a Cobalt or Neon, best case Nissan? When I got side-impacted by a deer a few months ago they gave me a Sentra.
I'm so bummed. I just got my Kartboy SS, bushings and knob last Thursday and was really looking forward to installing it.
dude MAKE SURE you are NOT paying for the loaner car! Since car is covered by the warranty YOU ARE ENTITLED to a free loaner. I've read that in one of the brochures while I was sitting at the dealer one day.
As far as the loaner car itself....when my car was in repairs, dealer supplied the loaner car themselves. I even got to pick what kind of car i wanted to rape, i mean loan, hehe. I took a 2004 Toyota Corolla XR-S 6-speed 1.8L with VVTL-i....red line starts at 9k rpm and at 7 VVTL-i kicks in...its like V-tech. It was pretty quick.....170hp
p.s. sorry I incidently typed my reply in editing box in your reply....hehe thats why your last post says "last edited....by DiS" my bad
SubXer0
09-14-2005, 10:42 PM
Haha, Dante, did you read the initial post? Why should I do all this myself
if it's damaged and under warranty?
As for the rivets, yes, it's an updated manifold. The original one was held in with screws.
Bah, I tried to talk the guy into giving me the old mani, too, so I could take the VTCS off myself and maybe have a port & polish done but he said it had to go back to Mazda. Damn...
oh lol sorry i was just being zealous for vtcs removal:D Carry on......
Protephile
09-15-2005, 12:48 PM
I got an '05 sludge-colored Focus as a loaner. (yippy)
Auto and standard fleet interior--not even power windows. Damn.
Oh well, I should have my baby back on Monday.
I got an '05 sludge-colored Focus as a loaner. (yippy)
Auto and standard fleet interior--not even power windows. Damn.
Oh well, I should have my baby back on Monday.
as long as you're not paying for rental its all gewd
Protephile
09-22-2005, 05:47 PM
Hmmm, well, now my car won't be ready till next Tuesday. According to the service guy, who is kind of an idiot (thank god he's not actually working on my car), they found additional damage to (wtf) the 'emissions tube'. He said it was cracked. Anyone know what he might be referring to? I tried to get a better description but that was it. If I had more time I would have gotten the tech to show me.
emissions tube.......yea that guy is definetly is an idiot. He probably refers to EGR valve pipe as thats THE ONLY tube I can think of. Unless he's really retarded and referring to the catalytic converter.
justanotheradikt
09-23-2005, 09:02 AM
yea the EGR valve is the only only thing i can think of.... you should slap him in the face and be like "you owe me a turbo just cause your an idiot" and then slap a owned sticker on his face!
Protephile
09-23-2005, 01:20 PM
yea the EGR valve is the only only thing i can think of.... you should slap him in the face and be like "you owe me a turbo just cause your an idiot" and then slap a owned sticker on his face!
Yeah, guys, EGR was the only thing I could think of too, esp. since we have a history of problems with that, also.
Lol, and I like the way you think!
Yeah, guys, EGR was the only thing I could think of too, esp. since we have a history of problems with that, also.
Lol, and I like the way you think!
sooooooooooooooooo, did you find out what the problem is for sure?
Protephile
09-24-2005, 05:49 PM
When I go back next week, I am going to have a long chat with the tech who worked on my car. I'll give a full report on what was replaced as a reference for those who have this problem in the future.
When I go back next week, I am going to have a long chat with the tech who worked on my car. I'll give a full report on what was replaced as a reference for those who have this problem in the future.
kewl keep us posted man. and if indeed turns out what we had.....shit our list is going to get bigger.
Also, tell whoever at that dealer, that you are not the only one with this problem and that you know others with this shit. You can mention me as I lost the most amount of screws hehe, which is 5 out of 8
greenman
09-24-2005, 10:41 PM
hope they get you fixed up.
I was sitting at a light yesterday and started to hear what sounded like the "noise" and my heart did a little stutter, started getting pretty pissed and worried too b/c i'm just out of warranty aaahhhhh$$$$$$$$$$(eek2)
Then i looked in the rearview and turns out it was the p5 sitting behind me that i didn't know was there.... felt bad for her but releived too.
now i know the fear of the noise
Brian MP5T. Your last post is absolutely irrelevant to the thread. Post deleted, please dont thread jack.
Protephile
09-28-2005, 06:48 PM
Yippeee!! I just picked up my car a little bit ago. It's running well so far.
Mazda replaced:
Intake mani, Fuel rail and injectors, related gaskets and of course the plugs.
Also, DiS, yeah, it was the EGR valve, they replaced the pipe and solenoid.
I think I'm gonna beat the hell out of my engine for the next 3500 miles--if this happens again I want it to happen before the warranty runs out!
After reading about so many nightmarish Mazda dealership stories I have to give a (thumb) to Falconi in Moon Twp, PA...
Yippeee!! I just picked up my car a little bit ago. It's running well so far.
Mazda replaced:
Intake mani, Fuel rail and injectors, related gaskets and of course the plugs.
Also, DiS, yeah, it was the EGR valve, they replaced the pipe and solenoid.
I think I'm gonna beat the hell out of my engine for the next 3500 miles--if this happens again I want it to happen before the warranty runs out!
After reading about so many nightmarish Mazda dealership stories I have to give a (thumb) to Falconi in Moon Twp, PA...
oh man, Im glad you had it taken care of that fast. Yea, when I picked up my car from dealership, sales rep says "just ease off on the throttle" Im like, oooooookeeeeeeeeeey. 5 minutes later Im at 6k rpm 1st 2nd and 3rd gears ripping through route 22, hehe.
justanotheradikt
09-28-2005, 09:49 PM
ha you guys were lucky....i had to wait a month and a few days when mine went it...had to replace the whole damn motor! but dis, i was told the same thing, easy on the gas. i was like yea stfu! after my motor was "broken in" i was rippin through the gears
ha you guys were lucky....i had to wait a month and a few days when mine went it...had to replace the whole damn motor! but dis, i was told the same thing, easy on the gas. i was like yea stfu! after my motor was "broken in" i was rippin through the gears
lol dude, I MADE my motor to brake in within 30 minutes of driving after picking up my car (thumb).
Protephile
09-29-2005, 01:03 PM
Ease off on the throttle. Yeah, that's pretty funny. I was up over 5500rpms on my first shift back in the car...oops.
Ease off on the throttle. Yeah, that's pretty funny. I was up over 5500rpms on my first shift back in the car...oops.
(lol) thats my boy
justanotheradikt
09-29-2005, 10:51 PM
i think its more nature for us rather than trying to be a hard ass and not paying attention to what he said....its just not natural for me to "ease off the gas" and become a slow driver, its just not right!
i think its more nature for us rather than trying to be a hard ass and not paying attention to what he said....its just not natural for me to "ease off the gas" and become a slow driver, its just not right!
lol thats what Im trying to explain, but for some reason I couldnt pick the right words. hehe
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